RC: First time, Rock Circus has broken their cherry at the 31st Street Pub with these guys, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club. This is their first Virgin record, major label right? Peter: That goes along with the other thing you just said. Robert: The cherry thing. RC: Is this your first time in Pittsburgh, are you also breaking your cherry here, in Pittsburgh, tonight? Robert: No, we broke it wide open last time... long time ago. RC: How long ago were you here? Robert: When was that, like six months ago. That was a rough one. We booked it kind of quick, that was our first tour out, it was just kind of a live wire back then. RC: Were you still trying to get the kinks out of the system? Robert: To go... before we thought about it... you know... just playing anywhere and everywhere. We had our album out, no reason to sit at home so we just took off in our van. RC: Were you trying to be as free spirited as the music? Robert: I don't know if we thought about it that much, just wanted to play some rock-n-roll now, you know? RC: Now you signed with Virgin and the thing that really blows me away is that they let you produce, and do a lot of the production work, that they usually hire a big gun to come in and do. How did you convince the label or were there any conflicts with suits or anything? Peter: Ahhh... well... there was options offered. RC: Did you cut a lesser deal? Peter: Well... you take less money... that's all. Nick: There was a conflict between ourselves too. When you got three guys trying to produce an album, then you got too many cooks in the kitchen, and it's gonna be a little bit messy for a while. RC: Was it messy for you guys? Nick: I think everybody had an understanding... being understood and respected eachother. There might be some muddy areas but we figured it out, and we got away with it, so... RC: Yeah, you had hands on control for everything. That's great, I think more bands should take that initiative. Now I was reading Peter, that you don't like a lot of the bands that people are listening to. Is it the top 40 stuff or just what's out there in general? Would you care to embellish, I didn't really understand the quote. Peter: Oh... well... I don't know where that one came from. Basically, it's just that I don't listen to the radio, and that's about as much embellishing as there is... RC: You don't listen to a lot of music at all, do you? Peter: No... not really... it's just what it is. RC: Did you guys, when you got together, deal with any psychedelic type drugs to come up with a sound? In the 60s a lot of bands like Pink Floyd and Donaven did, was that a thing for you guys or did this just come naturally? I mean you came from a family of musicians Robert, so I'm sure that you were exposed to a lot of things. Robert: We all had it in our background, our families all had musical sides in some way. But the idea is you don't need it when you listen to it and try to get the person there without it, so we didn't need to create it while we were on anything, you know? The trick is to make good music that stands up without that. If you take it there's nothing wrong with that, and if it sounds better God bless you. But the idea is not to use any tricks, and that's the trick. RC: Is it a trick, I didn't know. Morrison, I guess it out-tricked him in the long run but... (Robert puts his head down laughing to himself) (laughing)Did I just get him mad? Morrison was always on LSD and that was his trick on stage, with his shenanigans and mannerism, and the way he carried on. A lot of that was drug induced, that's all I meant. Robert: In recording, anything's a tric. If you try to add something to take yourself to another place that's not already naturally there, that's a trick. Any recording gear that you use that's artificial, that's another trick. We try to use as little as possible. RC: I understand. Peter: You try to remember where you've been... at the time... if you've done drugs, you know? RC: Try to recapture it? Peter: Well, try to learn from it... I don't think we're the type of people who like to listen to our album and music on drugs... it's way to critical. RC: Do you mind if your fans do that, is that all right? (laughter) Peter: Oh, that's lovely. No, it's really rough to... it's all about the music... it's all the same thing... it all ties together, but, what are we talking about? RC: Your music. Peter: (laughing) Oh, OK, I forgot about that. Nick: What else were we talking about there? RC: I wanted to talk about how you just sort of darted in, out of the San Fransisco scene and hooked up with these guys, to form this cool trio. I mean I love you guys, look at my CD, it's beat, I'm trying to help you out here. Nick: I just randomly met these two guys... RC: Just randomly... Nick: Yeah, it was kind of random and fateful at the same time. RC: Kind of like destiny? Nick: It was random... Robert: It was a little coincidence. I just kind of invited him to the show. We were kind of seeing eachother around, on and off. I said I'm playing this show, me and Peter were in this band called Wave a long time ago, and we were just f***ing around. We played this show and he showed up and ended up jumping on stage while we were playing and started doing his thing, and it was cool. RC: Are they Ludwig drums you like to carry around with you? Nick: Uhmmm... yeah... Ludwigs. RC: English drummers seem to like them. Nick: Someone gave me those drums. I didn't know what they were. I was lucky enough to have someone give me those drums. It was like a drummer that didn't really make it so big in the music industry and really wanted to promote drumming. He just gave me a set and I was like, yeah, I've never really had a set of drums before, thank you very much. RC: You learned in England or when you came here? Nick: I learned with these two guys. RC: You taught him (turning to Peter), aren't you multi- instrumental? Peter: We played off eachother. RC: But that was it, I mean, to have that natural talent, that's pretty amazing I think. Robert: Well... we all learned off eachother. We all knew how to pick up the basic instrument, but not to do anything more than that... just pick it up, hit a chord... but we really learned how to play by all of us getting together and making it happen, hammering it out, but it was fun. RC: Sounded like it was fun. Now you're heading off to Europe soon? You're getting airplay on the BBC, that's cool. How long are you gonna be over there? Peter: About a month, I believe... I love to... I love to go. RC: Now is that it, just Europe? Robert: There's a couple other places. A couple little places scattered about. We haven't worked it all out, it's kind of a tease, the whole things a tease. RC: Really. Robert: Yeah, we're coming back home and then planning it for real, you know, kind of a pre-tour. RC: Are you guys working on a new video for the CD, next single? What's the next single you're gonna be promoting? Peter: I believe it's "Love Burns." RC: That's a good tune. What did I want to ask you about real quick, ohhh, on "White Palms" you make a lot of references to Jesus. Are you guys religous or spiritual, or you don't even care to talk about that, because some people it's to personal. Peter: Ahhh... in that one song we make a lot of references because it says his name about fourty times, maybe... so... if we're talking about that song... I don't know. We're just questioning things, religion, government... RC: You're almost asking when's the second coming coming. Which is a pretty big deal in a lot of established religion, you know what I mean? Peter: Yeah, well it's just... come, if you're gonna come already. RC: Well anyways, we'll roll into "Whatever Happened to my Rock-N-Roll punk song." Robert: Dude, what time is it? RC: It's like 2:30 in the morning. Robert: That's the time we... RC: You go back in to your box. Nick: I'm going to go to church tomorrow and pray a little bit. RC: You are, that's cool, that's what I do every Sunday morning. If it works for you use it, that's what I say. But we'll keep a peep out for "Love Burns," here's the video on Rock Circus.
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