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Announcing Visual Studio 2010 and .NET FX 4 Beta 2


I am pleased to announce the release of Visual Studio 2010 and .NET Framework 4 Beta 2.  MSDN subscribers can download Beta 2 today.  The beta will be available to the rest of the world on Wednesday. 

Visual Studio 2010 has made significant enhancements since Beta 1.  We’ve come a long way in performance and general stability, and while there is more work to do before we release Visual Studio 2010, we hope you’ll like what you see. 

Beta 2 also includes integrated tooling for SharePoint, including project templates and debugging support, and runtime and tooling support for developing great Windows 7 applications. 

Since Beta 1, new Windows Azure Tools templates make it easy to get started developing Windows Azure applications, and enhanced support for Silverlight 3 databindings let you focus on writing your code. 

Team Foundation Server is now included in all versions of Visual Studio 2010 with MSDN.  For small teams that need only core development features such as source control, bug tracking, and build automation, TFS Basic offers a simple, streamlined install and runs on server or client machines.  Test Elements users will notice a more intuitive and responsive user interface.

We’ve been making improvements to the .NET Framework as well.  I’m happy to say that the download size of .NET Framework 4 Beta 2 is greatly reduced from previous versions of the .NET Framework, with most flavors coming in under 50 megabytes.  Significant improvements to WPF’s text rendering stack make text sharper.  You will notice sharper text in the Visual Studio 2010 editor. 

We are also announcing a simplified product lineup and pricing options today, as well as new benefits for MSDN subscribers.  For MSDN Premium subscribers, the “Ultimate Offer” will offer access to the next level of Visual Studio 2010 at launch on March 22, 2010.  Find out more about the new product lineup and the “Ultimate Offer” here.

Visual Studio 2010 Beta 2 is available today for MSDN subscribers and will be available October 21st for public download. Keep an eye on the Visual Studio 2010 Product Page for or sign up to be notified when it becomes available.  The team and I are looking forward to hearing your feedback.


Posted: Monday, October 19, 2009 9:10 AM by Somasegar


Greg Shelton said:

Looking forward to giving TFS Basic a spin.

# October 19, 2009 9:14 AM

bobrik said:

Will Visual C++ Express 2010 include compiler for 64-bit? Or still "C++ Express = no 64-bit development"

# October 19, 2009 9:30 AM

Joe said:

Could you elucidate on "Team Foundation Server is now included in all versions of Visual Studio 2010."

Does this mean TFS client licenses are now available to all version of VS 2010 (except, I presume, Express?) Does this mean, you now only need to purchase a TFS server (assuming TFS Basic isn't sufficient) for those of us without the cash to purchase the high end MSDN offerings?

I am extremely interested in TFS Basic, especially since our current version control provider flaked out with their latest release. Unless it is missing some core functionality, TFS Basic would be perfect for our needs (especially since the internal requirement that we support Linux clients has been quietly dropped.) Management will be justifiably upset that we flushed over $12,000 down the drain, so I'd need to really line everything up, but if TFS Basic is less than our license renewal, they'll be happy again.

# October 19, 2009 9:34 AM

Jason said:

Where does windows mobile development fit in?  Hopefully, express editions will be included this time.

# October 19, 2009 9:54 AM

Klaus Even Enevoldsen said:

Congratulations! I am looking forward to trying it out as soon as it is downloaded! I am sure it is a great release!

# October 19, 2009 11:03 AM

Daren said:

Does Beta 2 have a go-live license?

# October 19, 2009 11:20 AM

Tony Goodhew said:

Does VS 2010 Beta 2 have a GoLive license?

Yes. The rights are expressed in the license document inside the Beta 2 product.

Tony Goodhew

Microsoft Corp.

# October 19, 2009 11:26 AM

phuff said:

Jason: Yes, Express editions are included in the Beta 2 release.

Polita Paulus

Developer Division


# October 19, 2009 11:39 AM

Tony Goodhew [MSFT] said:

Could you elucidate on "Team Foundation Server is now included in all versions of Visual Studio 2010."

All versions of Visual Studio 2010 that include an MSDN Subscription will also include a client & server license for TFS. You will be able to install this either on your client machine (very similar to client side SCM such as VSS) or on a server machine just like TFS 2008.

# October 19, 2009 11:43 AM

Seamus said:

Great release! I can't wait to evaluate this stuff. TFS, .Net 4 and VS have come a long way.

I have to express some disapointment though. Yes the sku's were simplified but I really wish there was just one.

The price is too high. It's a barrier for many small comapnies that can use free tools. The features I find most interesting, test and lifecycle management, all require Ultimate. Same goes for Web and Load testing. If it wasn't for tools such as ReSharper or CodeRush I would never use VS as my editor.

Anyway, just a request that you further simplify the product line and lower the cost barrier.

Daren, there is Channel 9 movie explaining setup of VS 2010 Beta 2. It explains that Beta 2 does have a go-live license.

The TFS installer includes the 'Basic' install option which can be installed on a client OS.

# October 19, 2009 11:44 AM

David Jacobson said:

The simplified product lineup eliminates the Standard edition.  No upgrade price is listed for the Professional edition.  Effectively, the new product lineup appears to be a 400% price increase for anyone who needs the Standard edition.  Don't you think this kind of price increase deserves at least a little explanation?

# October 19, 2009 11:49 AM

Doug Seven said:

Joe said: Could you elucidate on "Team Foundation Server is now included in all versions of Visual Studio 2010."

Team Foundation Server 2010 will be included in the MSDN subscription that comes with Visual Studio 2010 Professional, Premium, Ultimate, and Test Elements. This copy of Team Foundation Server in licensed for unlimited development and test use (as is all MSDN software) and licensed for one production deployment. These MSDN subscriptions also include one CAL.

Team Foundation Server has three installation choices - Basic, Advanced and Custom.

Team Foundation Server will also be available in retail for around $500 USD and will include a license term allowing up to five (5) named users without CALs to use Team Foundation Server. To grow to more than five users, simply buy CALs for the new users. This enables small teams of five or fewer to get up and running on Team Foundation Server for as little as $500 USD.

Of course having Visual Studio 2010 with MSDN means you can get Team Foundation Server up and running at no additional cost.


# October 19, 2009 12:10 PM

Robert said:

I like the overhaul a lot so far!

Everything on MSDN feels a lot cleaner than it used to be, and it is nice to FINALLY see some actual personality on the webpages!  (I loved the 'This is no namby-pamby beta.' line on the VS2010b2 download page)

Really looking forward to giving the new font rendering and LayoutRounding in WPF4 a spin.  This is shaping up to be quite an excellent release!

# October 19, 2009 12:12 PM

Kevin Kennedy said:

When will the Visual Studio 2010 Beta 2 SDK be available?

# October 19, 2009 12:35 PM

Kevin Kennedy said:

When will the Visual Studio 2010 Beta 2 SDK be available?

# October 19, 2009 12:35 PM

Christian Jacob said:

As a Microsoft Gold Certified partner with ISV competency (amongst others), we had permission to have one instance of TFS 2008 running with about 25 CALs of the VSTS 2008 Team Development edition. Since Microsoft merged the Development and Database edition we could also make use of the Database edition.

Now that there is a new product line up, how will that influence our current licensing situation?

Where do we find back the Dev and DB edition and what's with the Tester and Architect edition? Will those be included in a package we can use due to our company status right away now?

# October 19, 2009 12:57 PM

Joe said:

Tony & Doug, thank you for the quick response to my question. That is fantastic news. I wish we had this kind of pricing a year ago!

# October 19, 2009 2:18 PM

pingpong said:

Was the VStudio banner at the top of this post modelled after the livery on the prototype of the ill-fated Boeing 787?


# October 19, 2009 2:59 PM

phuff said:

David Jacobson:

We will have a price promotion at launch to help reduce the costs for existing Standard customers, but we aren't announcing specifics at this time.

Polita Paulus

Developer Division


# October 19, 2009 4:26 PM

Aaron Marten said:

@Kevin Kennedy ... The Visual Studio 2010 SDK Beta 2 is also available now to MSDN subscribers, and will be on the public download site Wednesday, Oct 21. Same schedule as VS.

# October 19, 2009 4:43 PM

Boris Jabes [MSFT] said:

Hi bobrik,

The C++ Express product won't support x64 "out-of-the-box" but that's mainly to save on the download size. The subsequent Windows SDK will contain all the 64-bit libraries and tools and will light up the Express IDE when you install it.


# October 19, 2009 6:07 PM

Gabriel Lozano-Moran said:

What about users like myself who have an active Visual Studio Team System 2008 Development Edition with MSDN Premium subscription with Software Assurance, will my subscription also automatically transition to Visual Studio 2010 Ultimate with MSDN when Visual Studio 2010 RTMs?

# October 19, 2009 11:25 PM

Jack Ukleja said:


Anyone know of a download location that supports resume?

Just had my download fail after 1GB... at which point I am reminded that most of the MSDN file servers don't support download resuming!

# October 20, 2009 12:35 AM

Hitesh said:

Features wise VS 2010 look promising but why you people suddenly started changing logos for all products. I have been using Visual Studio + MSDN since 1996 and what I have notice is the NEW LOGO design/color are very poor compare to existing one. I think, before changing mainstream features, UI & UX, MS should have conducted a survey to get the feedback from the people who are using these products around the world. These new logos are not giving stand-out impression as previous one. I am sure none of the customers may have asked MS to CHANGE logos & MSDN UX!


Cheaani, INDIA

# October 20, 2009 1:07 AM

anon said:

Can you do the impossible and delight us by making RTM available on DreamSpark the same day as TechNet and MSDN? Or will we have to wait for months again?

# October 20, 2009 3:11 AM

SM said:

I'd like to add to what David Jacobson said and voice my concern with you dropping Standard edition. Express editions don't currently support add-ins or packages, i.e. cannot be extended at all, whereas Standard edition could. I can install Standard edition, install a few add-ins and get a very nice env going. We are now forced into high priced and often unjustified upgrade path, especially in this tough economic times. Offering a limited time upgrade is just a temp solution and doesn't address the fundamental problem of not having a good entry level env, one that can be extended. I use Pro version at work but need Standard one at home. I suggest you reconsider while you have a chance. Give developers more choices, not less.

# October 20, 2009 8:47 AM

Ignacio said:

Great, VS works much faster than Beta 1! I'm looking forward on trying the TFS Basic on my laptop (Installing... :D)

I must admit I was hoping that covariance and contravariance wast at least implemented on the IEnumerable<T> for this release. Is there any chance we can get those bits before the final release?

# October 20, 2009 10:45 AM

shaggygi said:

Will VS 2010 Beta 2 support MS Surface development out-of-box?  Will there be videos on how to develop Surface apps with VS 2010?  TIA.

# October 20, 2009 2:16 PM

phuff said:


The Microsoft Surface SDK will remain as a separate download. However, you can use Visual Studio to design and build your WPF-based Surface application.  You can find out more about developing for Surface at http://www.microsoft.com/surface/.

Polita Paulus

Developer Division


# October 20, 2009 4:05 PM

Melitta said:

Ignacio: IEnumerable<T> is covariant in Beta2.  You can check out the documentation below for more details.  Is there some particular behavior you're noticing that would indicate variance is broken with IEnumerable?



Base Class Libraries Team

# October 20, 2009 4:06 PM

pat said:

WPF based VS210 beta 2 is slow and another stupid move like XP to vista

# October 20, 2009 7:09 PM

Alex said:

Why no Windows Mobile support in beta 2 also?

# October 21, 2009 6:01 AM

Hoang Vu said:

Is there a ISO for the beta 2 (I'm not subscribed to MSDN) ?

# October 21, 2009 6:14 AM

gasd said:

Is there no ISO Image available?

BTW:Info strategy concerning VS2010 of microsoft is just confusing! Too much places (blog, twitters, ...) with different (false) information?

# October 21, 2009 8:01 AM

VV said:

I echo the comments about an ISO.  The public download page only lets you download the web installer.  I would like to download at work (where I have a nice fast connection), put the ISO on a USB stick and take it home to install.

# October 21, 2009 8:06 AM

stefac said:

Please let NON MSDN subscriber to download ISO image! Thank you. (Why this web installer... useless setup...)

# October 21, 2009 8:32 AM

David Berg [Microsoft] said:


RE "WPF based VS210 beta 2 is slow..."

Can you please e-mail us (DevPerf@Microsoft.com) with information about your system configuration and the performance problems you're seeing?


David Berg

Microsoft Developer Division

Performance Engineering

# October 21, 2009 9:09 AM

phuff said:

The ISO images of Beta 2 are coming soon.

Polita Paulus

Developer Division


# October 21, 2009 9:36 AM

Sam said:

Is support for Windows Mobile dropped in Visual Studio 2010?

# October 21, 2009 9:40 AM

Sriram said:


Express editions are available from


# October 21, 2009 1:28 PM

phuff said:

The ISO images are now available at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/dd582936.aspx.

Polita Paulus

# October 21, 2009 2:06 PM

Tom said:

Why doesn't it support Windows Mobile development?

# October 21, 2009 3:36 PM

Michael Goldshteyn said:

Sadly the product crashes for me on startup with an annoying "The application cannot start." error. I have already filed a report at Microsoft Connect:


# October 21, 2009 4:27 PM

Joe said:

I have almost exactly the same problem as Michael. The first time I run the product, I can create an MFC project. It won't edit any source files those with a "Can't open xxxx" error. After I shut down, I can no longer start the application with "The application cannot start." error.

(Oh, I was able to edit the really, really annoying and oh so useless ReadMe.txt file. The editor was slow, cumbersome and ugly.

Finally, the color scheme and UI design really stinks. Please rehire your talented usability experts.)

# October 21, 2009 6:00 PM
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