For general discussion and debate. Possible talking point: Sarah!
How'd she do, folks? In the Xcel Energy Center, the evening was a HUGE success, as was her speech. I couldn't find any critics (photo courtesy Reuters).
What did you think? Did she accomplish what she needed to? How are you feeling about the race now?
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One word...
September 4, 2008 - 09:53 ET by Iowa BoyReaganesque.
"Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain." Official Motto of the State of Iowa
Yes, We Will
September 4, 2008 - 10:46 ET by sawing battaTalk about "Yes, We Can"...she's not just a future promise of some nebulous "yes, we can" campaign line, she's "Yes, I am" "Yes, we will" and "Yes, we just did" all in one.
A great day for Women in America. A great day for conservatives. A terrible day for the media establishment's power structure and the engrained culture of liberalism.
Way to Go, Sarah.
sawing
September 4, 2008 - 10:52 ET by MrShy"A great day for conservatives. A terrible day for the media establishment's power structure and the engrained culture of liberalism."
You got it!
And as a woman myself, I could not be more proud.
Okay okay, I'm not a woman.
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If you missed it last night...
September 4, 2008 - 10:47 ET by Amanda JusticeIf you missed it last night, or want to watch it again, MsUnderestimated has the whole speech in 3 separate downloadable .wmv files here.
thanks for the link
September 4, 2008 - 11:08 ET by SouthJersey1953Can't view it here at work, but sent the link home to get the files tonight. Speech was the best I have ever heard (well, since Reagan anyway)
McCain/PALIN '08
PALIN/Jindal '12
A Huge Thank You to Newsbusters and MRC
September 4, 2008 - 09:56 ET by YahooWatcherThe GOP convention is bringing out the worst of the left leaning media and NB/MRC is right there to call them on their bottom-feeding, gutter-scraping reporting.
She was phenomenal. She
September 4, 2008 - 09:57 ET by HermanoShe was phenomenal. She made me want to vote for McCain! Choosing her gave me a lot more confidence in McCain's ability to put good people in important positions in his administration.
Loved her many digs at Obama. I also noticed how she was "hands off" Biden. I thought this was a smart move since she showed how she was more qualified that Obama to take on the responsibility of being POTUS.
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She delivered
September 4, 2008 - 10:13 ET by docbthe female version of the speech with her homilies sprinkled in...
What about the issues? where is the beef? The jabs are good for a captive audience but let's see how she does without the adoring crowd...!!!
What little we know about her gives one pause...with 2 children with 'special needs' now --how does she make a decision to run for public office...would be interesting to have that thought pattern analyized!!!
She told us what she wanted
September 4, 2008 - 10:16 ET by HermanoShe told us what she wanted to do about taxes, energy, foreign relations and several other key areas - AND SHE GAVE DETAILS. Maybe you should pay attention to the speeches that people give instead of listening to others interpret it through their beer goggles.
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how does she make a
September 4, 2008 - 10:19 ET by Dan The Man 2how does she make a decision to run for public office...would be interesting to have that thought pattern analyized - And if we had all thought patterns analized then there would be no one left standing. What a maroon. Go back and read 1984 again.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Oh docb, please. "... let's
September 4, 2008 - 10:46 ET by MassConservOh docb, please.
"... let's see how she does without the adoring crowd...!!!"
As if Obama has ever been within 10 miles of anything but a fawning and fainting audience. Even when he's got his audience eating out of his hand, most of what he feeds them is filler (ah, uh, um) if it hasn't been scripted.
Yes, let's see how she does unscripted. I'm willing to bet it will be better than "the messiah."
the objective
September 4, 2008 - 10:51 ET by sawing battaFair concern...but this was an introduction...last night was not the night she should go into a deep, boring policy wonk speech. She has 60 days to talk policy, but only one night to rev up the crowd. (that said, i think you get a sense of her positions, no?)
On issues, she'll only get stronger.
Beyond expectations....
September 4, 2008 - 09:57 ET by political mavennow if she actually means what she says about serving the people, and doesn't get ruined by Washington.
And she has to talk to McCain about global warming and ANWR
The dems wet their pants last night....she made Obama look like the Jackass, empty suit he is
GOP now racist
September 4, 2008 - 10:00 ET by YahooWatcherRead all about it: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_diversity
GOP hypocrites: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cvn_measure_of_a_nation_palin_family_politics
Kwame plea deal, going to slammer. See page B-18 for details.
racist? you idiot
September 4, 2008 - 10:08 ET by political mavenAny black person is free to join the party, it's not like the GOP hires members of the party .
The blacks are too stuck on the nanny state plantation to break loose and start taking care of themselves, so they nurse from the Dems and the programs they push.
The few blacks who are willing to join the party of limited government (ok, so Bush grew the gov't and the GOP payed big time last election) take heat from "real" blacks as being oreos or Uncle Toms.
The Dems are racist for keeping the blacks hooked on the Gov't because the DEMS think the blacks can't make decisions for themselves.
political maven - I think yahoowatcher was pointing out the
September 4, 2008 - 10:22 ET by Dee Bunkirony and bias in the media. I could be wrong, but I don't think he agrees with it.
Bigot Bigot
September 4, 2008 - 10:25 ET by docbNo one keeps anyone from going to the party that reflects the values important to them...
It is just a problem for the old white voters and the religious right who have benefited from the tax breaks and big corp advantages, who hold fast to the repub party!
Since you brought it up, docb
September 4, 2008 - 10:40 ET by Mica the MagnificentSince you brought it up then you must also be saying that the old black voters who have benefited from the welfare system and other government handouts hold fast to the dem party?
You sound silly.
for the Leftist docb
September 4, 2008 - 13:22 ET by UnsaneYeah, those tax breaks go to PRODUCERS who actually hire people and expand the economy...not losers like you who just ungratefully suck the tits thereof. Besides, the top 60% of wage earners pay 99.94% of taxes...maybe we should be demanding the poor pay THEIR "fair share", to use your language.
And of course you hate Big (fill in the blank) until it is time for you to steal from them. (All Leftists like you really know how to do is to steal, anyways.)
Shockingly, most of us here don't want to live our lives being Wards of the State like you do.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
I was being sarcastic
September 4, 2008 - 11:22 ET by YahooWatcherI'm sorry you took this post in a way I had not intended.
I understood what Yahoo was
September 4, 2008 - 16:38 ET by Roger the ShrubberI understood what Yahoo was saying. You guys need to lighten up!
Maybe that's because there
September 4, 2008 - 10:11 ET by motherbeltMaybe that's because there aren't many black Republicans???
And if they had "rounded up" a few more, I'm sure today the MSM would be accusing them of "showcasing" them.
The WaPo reported today...
September 4, 2008 - 11:07 ET by...36 black delegates out of 2380 delegates on the convention floor. You're correct, there aren't many blacks in the party. Too bad, their loss...it is the lowest number in 40 years...do we really care?
Ubercon
I graded Sarah's speech A-
September 4, 2008 - 10:04 ET by Free StinkerI graded Sarah's speech A-
Then I saw she had teleprompter problems near the end so I riased her grade to a full A.
Platform poise. ;-)
Sarah Palin - This is what a Conservative looks like !
I actually stayed up to
September 4, 2008 - 10:04 ET by MassConservI actually stayed up to watch her speech and can honestly say I was impressed.
I hope she can carry the confidence she displayed last night into the debates and other unscripted venues.
Also, I think it's really sad when people (libs) are so thin skinned they can't handle little barbs like the ones she tossed last night.
Right MC - there were no personal attacks
September 4, 2008 - 10:25 ET by Dee BunkNo one was accused of being a liar or hating black people - They didn't advocate arresting them as criminals or say that they didn't care about people. All the comments were based on lack of experience and judgment and saying different things to different groups.
Two standards
September 4, 2008 - 10:41 ET by well99It is ok for them to take potshots at McCain but no one is allowed to do the same to them.They can look down on a mayor from a small town but you cant look down on their community whatever.
Slam Dunk!
September 4, 2008 - 10:05 ET by ontherightBillary should be watching very closely and taking notes.
Rachel Maddow........More LEfty MSNBC BS
September 4, 2008 - 10:06 ET by JOSH R-NYRachel Maddow last night brought up that someone at Palins church spoke to the
congregation that Israel deserves terrorist attacks because they dont beleive in
Jesus.....Maddow states that Palin was present and cites Poltico.com as her
source......
This is such bullshit, where was Maddow and the rest of NBC when the Jeramiah
Wright crap came out. He wasnt talking bad about just Israel, he was talking
about us, the USA.
As I am a Jew, I take extreme offense to the Wright comments, and if these
rumours are true, then I am equally offended about what might have been said at
Palins church.
The difference is that I know Palin doesnt beleive this crap, and Im sure
that this hasnt been the basis of her church experience for the last 20 years.
Unlike Obama, who has been subjected to this hat speech for 20 years, and only
denounced it when he got busted on the national stage.
Another example of liberal bias..MSNBC PANEL= LIBERAL, LIBERAL, LIBERAL,
LIBERAL, Pat Buchanan....
I do hope this comes out
September 4, 2008 - 10:20 ET by dmntd1I do hope this comes out against Palin. I really hope the media attempts to flay her alive for sitting in a pew while a VISITING PREACHER gives a rather bigoted, short-sighted message.
If the MSM does this, Wright will be re-opened in such a spectacular fashion that Obama will have no idea what hit him. It wouldn't surprise me that the MSM has DNC orders not to follow through on Brickner's message that day.
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini
Let's not forget..
September 4, 2008 - 10:54 ET by SDS....that Obama participated in the (million man march) to willingly listen to Farrakhan spew his anti-american and anti-jew hate. So it didn't start with Wright.
SDS:
September 4, 2008 - 19:46 ET by j. frank wilsonHave you read the newspaper column Sen. Obama wrote about that experience?
When I was a pup George Lincoln Rockwell came to speak in my hometown. If I had listened to him (it was past my bedtime) would that have made me an American Nazi sympathizer?
Possibly.
September 4, 2008 - 23:55 ET by HillbillyKingWho knows frank? If GLRs speech left a deep impression on you, perhaps it would have shaped your life in a manner that led you to be an American Nazi sympathizer. Life's funny about which events impact people in meaningful ways.
I understand what you are saying though, just participating in the march(speech) doesn't mean you endorse those views.
How about this, provide the link to Barry's article. Let us read it or is there sumthin in it to support SDS's claim?
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
HillbillyKing:
September 5, 2008 - 08:03 ET by j. frank wilsonI have not read Sen. Obama's column. What I know about it I read in the very interesting New Yorker article about his early experiences in Chicago politics - a very different take than you will get from the Republicans, by the way. I don't know if that little Hyde Park newspaper archives are on line.
A brief story about George Lincoln Rockwell's speech. He came out on stage and began spewing his hate and vitrol and the audience didn't say a word. No one yelled or protested or said anything. Silence. He, of course, was used to the audience going nuts. He went on and tried to stir things up and the folks just sat there. Finally he left in anger!
We've all read the sappy articles on Obama frank
September 5, 2008 - 08:30 ET by Dee Bunkthe difference is - we see them as sappy articles. He's full of these great ideas that he's never been able to implement even with his closest confidants and friends.
He talks about taking anger and vitriol out of the process but chooses a spiritual adviser who dams America - especially white people. He's buddy buddy with a former unrepentant terrorist. He's entrenched in the corrupt Chicago and IL politics with mentors like Emil Jones and Mayor Daly.
If Obama were a leader, would some of his ideas rub off on the people close to him? Wouldn't he cause Ayers to at least be repentant or Wright to start using a more positive message, or Emil Jones to not appoint his son to an elected position, or Mayor Daly to own up to his role in the police brutality and torture cover-up?
The answer is no because he's a phony. He's about money and power and if he can't change the opinions of his good friends, how is he going to change America?
Dee Bunk:
September 5, 2008 - 09:40 ET by j. frank wilsonPlease see the comments below directed to HillbillyKing. Sen. Obama has accomplished a great deal - implementing his ideas and change.
To suggest he's suppose to change the views of others is somewhat unrealistic. What has Sen. McCain done to change Pastor Hagee's crazed ideas?
Sen. Obama is not "entrenched" in Chicago politics. To state that is to demonstrate you simply don't know what you are talking about. Police brutality? See below - and read about Sen. Obama's work to stop that.
Sen. Obama has accomplished
September 5, 2008 - 10:01 ET by BDSen. Obama has accomplished a great deal - implementing his ideas and change.
What has Sen. McCain done to change Pastor Hagee's crazed ideas?
Sen. Obama is not "entrenched" in Chicago politics.
Frank - McCain was never freinds with Hagee
September 5, 2008 - 10:18 ET by Dee BunkObama was friends with Wright and Ayers. McCain has been a leader on many issues. He changed Bush's and other Republicans minds on the surge, he changed Democrats minds on their inappropriate filibuster of Federal judges. He's authored and passed lots of legislation.
Obama has done nothing to show that he can create change. Nothing. Please correct me with examples if I'm wrong. Obama has only catered to the radical left wing whether it's been filibustering judges or apposing the war or opposing born alive infant protection.
Obama speaks out about "torture" of radical Islamic terrorists but has no opinion on his buddy Mayor Daly being part of a large police brutality and torture cover-up in Chicago. Those people who were beaten and tortured were not killing thousands of people. They weren't treated to loud music, bright lights and water, but brutal brutal beatings and torture that killed people and included "electric shock to the ears and genitalia, mock executions, suffocation, and burning." according to Human Rights At Home. Clear evidence came to the forefront a couple years ago but the statute of limitations was up and people like Daley were safe from prosecution.
Obama is 100% partisan and will be lead by the nose by extreme left wing power brokers. He's shown no courage to go up against anyone in his party.
Dee Bunk:
September 5, 2008 - 10:36 ET by j. frank wilsonThere is nothing wrong with fillibustering votes on Federal judges. For much of our history approving judges required a unanimous vote - so all the Sheer Insannity crap about "in the history our nation" is just that - crap.
Sen. McCain himself has said there is not a substantive difference between stopping a judge with the "blue slip" process and stopping a judge with a fillibuster. Republicans had no problem whatsoever with blue slips - until they didn't like the results when the other party used them.
Without evidence you attempt to link Sen. Obama with Major Daley. Sen. Obama's success in Chicago was working with the Hyde Park branch of the Democratic Party - not with Major Daley's machine. See below for what Sen. Obama accomplished regarding brutal police interrogations.
As to how the US military and government "contractors" treated prisoners in the Middle East - sadly, torture and murder happened there as well.
Sen. Obama got ethics reform passed both in Illinois and in the US Senate. There was plenty of opposition from both parties - but he got it done.
If you don't suppport him then don't support him. Why do you also have to lie about his record?
Dee
September 5, 2008 - 09:55 ET by MrShyHe (O-Force One) lost my vote -- and I hope a large swath of them throughout the country, which looks to be the case (just look at that anti-Obama book flying off the shelves) -- being so closely tied to garbage like Rev. Wright. He has so MANY very questionable ties, but that one alone should ruin him.
The reason he still has a fighters chance? The black vote. Simple. (Well, that, and all the elitist guilt-ridden whites on the coasts who'd probably run to the voting booth for him if he was in the Nation of Islam.
Frank, that "candidate" is one, big propped-up joke. More and more are seeing this, thank G*d (um, ... damn America.)
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For REAL Change
Shy - did you support him at one time?
September 5, 2008 - 10:23 ET by Dee BunkIt's great if you were able to see the light. I have to say that even though I've never supported him (because I've known his positions being in IL), I used to think he was a decent man. Now I think he's very slimy and opportunistic and was "made" by the Chicago mob politicians.
Dee
September 5, 2008 - 11:24 ET by MrShyHey, forgot (or didn't even know!) that you're an Illinois-ian :p
Well, when he first appeared in the primaries, I wasn't all that impressed with him then. For me, right away I sort of saw him as a blowing-with-the-wind type politician, but he did have charasma, no question.
My oldest brother, and even my ex sister-in-law (his ex) -- who have both been pretty independent or even leaning more to the right most of their lives -- both told me how enamored they were with him. So, he DOES have that effect on people.
But again, Rezko (and yeah, I believe you about the mob connection) and all others aside, just the Wright connection alone I find so insulting and completely irreprehensible.
So you have more in-depth dirt on him, being in IL?
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For REAL Change
Shy - I knew him better before
September 5, 2008 - 11:41 ET by Dee Bunkbut I think now everything is out. I know how corrupt Chicago and IL politics are though and Obama has never done anything to change it and has in fact rode to the top with the help of the most corrupt.
What do your older brother and ex sister in law think about McCain/Palin now?
Dee Bauk:
September 5, 2008 - 18:07 ET by j. frank wilsonActually Sen. Obama worked to change the corrupt political situation both in Illinois and in the US Senate. And he was elected while avoiding the Daley machine. If you facts to back up your wild (and potentially libelous - that's why NB has the disclaimer below every blog) claims, where are they?
Mobbed up? Do you have any proof, or do you habitually fling around reckless accusations?
Wilson...I don't know
September 5, 2008 - 18:16 ET by bigtimerWilson...
I don't know where Dee is...but what world do you live in for heavens sake...you have got to be kidding...I don't care how old you are even in this instance...this is just common knowledge.
where are your links to prove Obama has worked to fight the Daley machine/corruption..and if you are talking about that stupid meaningless ethic piss in the Senate....then you are stupider than I thought you were.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
bigtimer:
September 6, 2008 - 09:21 ET by j. frank wilson"Common knowledge?" You mean the Big Lie repeated so many times the rubes buy it? You have no facts. Then you ask me to prove something?
Your tone and language prove you have no interest in an adult conversation.
Gov. Palin said "Hold me accountable" when the Alaska legislature looked into "Troopergate." Now she has filed an ethics complaint against herself to get the investigation moved to a body she appointed. That's change all right - change for the worse...
J Frank: Just some advice, I
September 6, 2008 - 09:35 ET by BDJ Frank:
Just some advice, I would not get into an firefight regarding ethics in which you champion a Chicago Politician who served on a board with William Ayers and launched his career in his sitting room.
I fear it would be, "Unfortunate" for you psychologically...
BD -- you're not that
September 6, 2008 - 09:40 ET by Jack BauerBD -- you're not that surprised this volleyball would take the side of a drunken ex-police officer who tasered his own 10 year old step-son, and subsquently threatened to murder Governor Palin and her dad?
Jack: I am always surprised
September 6, 2008 - 09:52 ET by BDJack:
I am always surprised at the level of "THerapy" it takes to be a liberal these days.
BD
Really..Say it aint so Obama
September 6, 2008 - 01:43 ET by well99http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article
If you had travelled
September 5, 2008 - 09:38 ET by BDIf you had travelled across the country to do so? Probably.
It's About Time
September 4, 2008 - 10:05 ET by bradbenj5952I see a change and my thought is it's about time. Instead of trying to pander to the lefty MSM the Republicans seem to be biting back in a very direct way. Sarah Palin has done this by letting the press know that she's not going to Washington seeking their approval. Rather, she's going there seeking America's approval. And I can certainly say this is one American who whole heartedly approves.
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." Acts 16:31
Great T-shirt
September 4, 2008 - 10:08 ET by ricklailHere is a great t-shirt from Patriotcrew.com. It is a shame they don't make them big enough for me.
If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!
Feeling better about the
September 4, 2008 - 10:08 ET by motherbeltFeeling better about the race. Palin might be just the "shot-in-the-arm" that McCain needs!
As usual, the MSM "misunderestimated." And this AM they are reeling, resorting to "yeah, she can deliver a speech that someone else wrote for her." (Sen. Obama, call your office!)
And for an added chuckle, Gloria Steinem is upset! How great is that! She gives Palin minimal kudos, because she is, after all, a woman. But she is the WRONG woman!
A couple of her highlights:
She was elected governor largely because the incumbent was unpopular,
Unlike Obama, who was elected to the IL legislature by suing his opponents off the ticket until he was unopposed.
and this is rich:
Perhaps McCain has opposed affirmative action for so long that he
doesn't know it's about inviting more people to meet standards, not
lowering them. [HAH!] (emphasis added)
But the money quote, IMO:
Palin shares nothing but a chromosome with Clinton.
If I were Sarah Palin, I would consider that high praise!
We are going to need plastic sheeting and garbage bags, like those in the front rows at a Gallagher performance, to shield us when all those MSM heads explode!
Palin v Clinton
September 4, 2008 - 11:16 ET by SDSGov Palin is everything Sen Clinton is and more...
she's pro-life.
I loved her speech. I loved
September 4, 2008 - 10:08 ET by dmntd1I loved her speech. I loved how she made it abundantly clear, without mentioning it, that she wasn't running against Biden, but against Obama. The slams she made repeatedly against Obama, and the DNC in general, had me roaring in laughter.
Laura Lingle, gov of Hawaii, gets props for, as far as I can tell, starting the "zero" movement. I'd love to see a bumper sticker of "O = 0" sometime.
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini
Linda Lingle, A Republican swamped by demorats!!
September 4, 2008 - 13:00 ET by upcountrywaterI voted for her several times, and she WON! She has fought the fight with the tax and spend gang for years. I was glad to hear her speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5LzIdYv1zY
17 minutes a CSPAN site on YT.
0=o lmao
Liberals62%
IranianUranium
GOLD!
September 4, 2008 - 10:10 ET by EverettPShe showed her strengths very well last night. If fact, I was kind of hoping SHE was running for POTUS. I finally feel like we finally have someone who has a damn backbone!
To the rest of the republicans... Learn from her example.
speaking of gold...
September 4, 2008 - 10:18 ET by sarcasmoThe MSM seems to be finally noticing a certain something they've been trying, desperately, to ignore for a while...
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
sarc
September 4, 2008 - 11:18 ET by Noel Sheppardsarc,
From everybody at NewsBusters, including the membership and readers, would you please stop taking every opportunity to talk your book. We all know where you stand on gold, the dollar, and the deficit. Pushing your investment of choice here has now officially become spamming.
Please stop it now! ns
On an open thread?
September 4, 2008 - 11:50 ET by sarcasmoWhen the MSM's noticing? I think this is personal with you, and I'd prefer to get a ruling from Sheffield since Ted Butler has a history of out-predicting you, and I think you resent it. Also, it's a lie to say this is about me, as you're trying to do, and lying is spamming, so stop.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
sarc
September 4, 2008 - 13:00 ET by Noel Sheppardsarc,
I'm with Matt and Ken. We discussed this before this was posted. This isn't personal. We want you to stop spamming your investments here. Period. We should have stopped this years ago. Final warning. ns
Once again, you're lying about my motivations in exposing this
September 4, 2008 - 13:14 ET by sarcasmoI must ask you to quit lying about me. I do not particularly care what you think about Butler because you know what I said about his predictive ability vs yours was proven true. If I'm not allowed to post about media bias in open threads here, I'm gone. But you'll still be a liar as long as you continually & knowingly lie about WHY I'm posting. Since you've failed to refute, why not just be silent, instead of trying to make this personal and about me? I think it shows a distinct lack of character.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
sarc
September 4, 2008 - 13:18 ET by Noel Sheppardsarc,
I'm sitting here with Matt and Ken. This is a unanimous decision, and by no means personal. If you can't live by this decision, that is your choice. ns
But are you telling the truth about that??
September 4, 2008 - 13:20 ET by sarcasmoYou're not about me & about why I post about this, even though you know the truth well from our last spat, so how should I know??
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Come on sarc...you've been
September 4, 2008 - 13:27 ET by bigtimerCome on sarc...you've been here as long as me...don't be so hard-headed.
...although we may not agree all the time I'd hate to see you go because of stubborness.
Just my thoughts...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Sorry, but I'm outta here
September 5, 2008 - 03:54 ET by sarcasmoIf my sincerely held beliefs can be misrepresented as "spam," it's not ok with me. Lies can't be allowed to stand, whether from the right or the left. I'll be elsewhere on the 'net, and I'll try to keep myself as easy to find as possible, but I'm not blogging here unless I can actually express my opinions without being lied-about in the process. Hope everyone I've met here has a good life. I think I'll leave you all with Penn Jillette's words on the Presidency.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
It sure does suck when
September 5, 2008 - 06:49 ET by Roger the ShrubberIt sure does suck when people spread outright lies about you, doesn't it?
Does your cape have a big "H" on it, for Hypocrite?
Light the torch and the moth will fly right back...
September 5, 2008 - 12:00 ET byRog,
Sarc loves this site. He'll be back soon enough. I love the option he has...he can decide to jump off the burning building to his demise or stay and enjoy the warmth of roasting to death. I think he'll jump and find out his cape doesn't work as parachute!
Good stuff!
Ubercon
Uber... Nice that someone
September 5, 2008 - 20:06 ET by bigtimerUber...
Nice that someone that has only been here five weeks seems to know so much about sarc and seems to be enjoying this.
I, for one, don't.
I understand Rog...but not you.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
I've been reading past threads...
September 5, 2008 - 23:22 ET by...I'm trying to understand the hierarchy and those posters like yourself who live on this site and live for this site. If you use the track function you can see who lives here. I find it ironic to see the posters who live here call those who disagree with them a "troll". Metaphorically speaking, I always thought the "troll under the bridge" was the unmoving force dominating the negative aspects of thought on a website. So, yeah, I'm just trying to get a better idea of who's who. From what I can see, you are a force on this site and hell hath no fury as a woman scorned. Keep up the good work.Übercon
um....
September 5, 2008 - 23:28 ET by candanceoops...wrong thread
nm
Uber... I see you managed
September 5, 2008 - 23:33 ET by bigtimerUber...
I see you managed to miss my whole point here...I'm not surprised either.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
yeah BT
September 5, 2008 - 23:42 ET by candanceI totally got the point you were making.
Too bad Sarc chose to go down that path. He was actually a pretty cool guy when he applied himself.
But alas, it takes months' worth of reading to really understand why Roger is dancing on Sarc's NB grave. Maybe we'll get lucky and be graced with another "DasSarkBot" or "Pauline Douchebag" zinger for good times. : - |
The Party's On: Sarcasmo's Gone!
September 6, 2008 - 19:09 ET by UnsaneCount me as another that is ecstatic that the arrogant blowhard Supreme Expert on Everything that was Sarcasmo is gone. I am right there with Roger.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Alright the racist drug addict Sarcasmo is gone
September 11, 2008 - 00:13 ET by Daniel BakerThe Extremist liberal-tarians can go live on his crackpot lewrockwell site
Protect Traditional Marriage California Get Out the Vote
Traditional Marriage is not "Divisive" President Obama
Racist...drug addict? Oh
September 11, 2008 - 00:20 ET by bigtimerRacist...drug addict?
Oh please Daniel...
Save it.
I know some are happy about sarc being gone...I'm not one that takes glee or is glad he left.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Agreed, BT
September 11, 2008 - 00:25 ET by BlondeSarcasmo was a burr under alot of people's saddles here, but he added quite a bit to the boards.
I hope he decides to check back in one of these days.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
sarc's departure
September 11, 2008 - 00:31 ET by Cool ArrowI'm hoping he comes back also.
He should be here right now with an "I told you so" on Fannie and Freddie. If we haven't taken one giant step into socialism, the definition has changed
Sarc
September 12, 2008 - 06:08 ET by UnsaneHe could add a lot to the boards, but he opted to spend much of his time being a boor and an arrogant p***k.
Nothing was ever Sarcasmo's fault (including his NB demise); Sarcasmo was the world's preeminent genius and if you didn't recognize that you were an idiot; Sarcasmo was never, ever wrong under any circumstances. Nor did he have much in the way of original thinking, just what other people said (by way of links).
I wanted to like him, but he rendered that impossible.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Some people may be idiots
September 12, 2008 - 16:55 ET by bigtimerSome people may be idiots in others eyes Uns...other people just ignore some of the posts on the threads that are posted by some posters they don't care for.
sarc was/is a friend...even though we didn't agree all the time...I just wished he wasn't so stubborn at times...but heck, we're all different.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Daniel, most libertarians are more conservative....
September 11, 2008 - 00:49 ET by R D Helm...than you average republican nowadays.
I left the Republican Party and joined the Libertarian Party back in 1996 for that very reason.
FYI, the government (run by man, incidentally) does no own you. You do.
What can be more conservative than that?
BTW, where in the Constitution of the United States does the government have the authority to prohibit anything I do as long as what I do does not threaten the life, liberty, or property of another citizen?
And just where, exactly, do you get off calling sarc a racist?
-Dave.
Racist? Maybe not, BUT...
September 12, 2008 - 06:15 ET by UnsaneNow, note I never have called Sarcasmo racist (and yes I know the question was not directed at me), but his obsequious love of Ron Paul (who himself despises Israel passionately), as well as his massive anti-Israel rant of some time ago, did give me pause to wonder sometimes.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Noel,
September 5, 2008 - 19:51 ET by RESTLESS 1During this powwow, did you happen to discuss Poptech's constant spamming throughout these threads? I mean, at least Sarcasmo only links to articles. He doesn't cut and paste the damn things ad nauseum.
Just a thought.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
I agree 100% Restless - Poptech is the spammer not Sarc
September 6, 2008 - 22:57 ET by Dee BunkSarc uses his own words and doesn't cut and paste. Someone should be warning Poptech.
R1, PopTech apparently has special privileges here at NB.
September 10, 2008 - 01:04 ET by R D HelmIt appears that he is allowed to insult and offend us all, numerous times, with impunity.
Sarc never offended me even once.
Of course, I have very thick skin in that I am not easily offended. However, PopTech managed to get under my skin in a huge way, more than once.
Something smells here at NB.
-Dave.
What I really think.
Dave - I don't think anything sinister is going on
September 10, 2008 - 10:38 ET by Dee BunkI think that there is just a lot that goes on here that the moderators don't see. There are too many comments for one person to keep track of and I'm sure they have many different people monitoring and even still don't see everything.
Poptechs obnoxious cut and paste jobs don't seem that bad when you haven't seen them 1,000 times and I'm sure many of his woman hating links and comments were not seen either. It's too bad because he is trolling big time and NB should do something about it.
Take up the charge...
September 10, 2008 - 13:32 ET byduplicate
Take up the charge...
September 10, 2008 - 13:31 ET byDee,
Quit complaining and protest to the mods. Send them emails. Be their eyes and ears. Blanket them with incessant emails why you want PopTech to go away. I'm with PopTech, I don't like the Sarah Palin pick...maybe you should round up all the NBers who disagree with you and have them banned. I guess in a perfect Dee World, there would be no dissent and only your comments would exist, nonstop day in, day out...no thanks.
Ubercon
Ubercon, you are beginning to get on my nerves.
September 11, 2008 - 00:00 ET by R D HelmAs someone who has been here for a very short time, it is obvious that you are totally unaware that long-time members like Dee, as well of the rest of us here at NB, do not "complain" to the mods every time we encounter a troll.
We are not spineless bed-wetting libs here and, as such, we are free to go after trolls pretty much any way we like.
BTW-you can bitch to the mods that this comment was, in your words about me the other night, "over the top" all you want. Hell, I may even forward it to them myself.
Are you sure you are an actual "conservative?"
I am only asking because Sarah Palin has more conservatism in her pinky than John McCain has in his entire body.
-Dave.
Define it, since you know all about it...
September 11, 2008 - 20:06 ET byDave, can I call you Dave?
For all intents and purposes, I have a real problem with the "conservatism" of Sarah Palin. Are you saying her social views are what define her overall conservatism? From what I am seeing, her ideas on wasteful government are contradicted by her own actions. She sells the state's jet for a loss, bills her own state for staying at home, keeps the money for "a bridge to nowhere" for other pet projects, increases taxes on corporations, turns around and gives money to everyone in the state for just being a citizen, kicks out the republicans...sounds more like a looney leftie socialist to me. Shall we look into how she uses her position of power to damage the careers of public servants?
Ubercon
Uber Was it illegal for
September 11, 2008 - 20:12 ET by mastersofdeceitUber
Was it illegal for her to keep the money?
I'm leaving work I'll check later, thanks.
As McCain had said...
September 11, 2008 - 21:31 ET by...the money could have been used elsewhere...to support a crumbling infrastructure possibly somewhere in the Midwest...hmmm...did a bridge collapse somewhere? Go ahead and work it as best you can...the fact remains Sarah said," thanks but no thanks" to the funds implying she didn't want the money for the bridge to nowhere and to allow the money to be returned to the good citizens of the US of A. She didn't. She said,"thanks but no thanks" to the bridge...and we'll keep the money anyway, suckers! Credibility problems abound with this woman. Oh, did I say woman...I meant person!
Übercon
There you have it! Proof
September 11, 2008 - 21:40 ET by Free StinkerThere you have it!
Proof positive that Sarah Palin caused the Minnestoa bridge collapse!
Tomorrow, proof that Sarah Palin caused yesterday's earthquakes in Iran, Japan, and Indonesia!
/Sarcasm Off
»→ Ubercon slaps Obama/Biden
September 11, 2008 - 21:53 ET by Cool ArrowWelcome to the light Ubercon. You just admitted that Obama and Biden's vote refusing to redirect the "Bridge to nowhere" funds to New Orleans rebuilding efforts, was a serious political blunder.
I agree with you Ubercon. The Senate (where the decision was actually made) could have, and maybe should have, redirected the funds. Thanks for your political insight revealing Sens. Obama and Biden's commitment to business as usual.
"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin
Ummmm...you're welcome!
September 11, 2008 - 22:10 ET byGot no problem pointing out hypocrites!As long as we agree that all parties could have done the right thing...and sent the money back.
Übercon
Better that the money went
September 11, 2008 - 22:45 ET by cocodrieBetter that the money went to the citizens of Alaska! I live in Metairie, La. a suburb of N.O. If the money had gone to N.O. it would have been stolen or misspent by Mayor Willy-Wonka Nagin of the infamous Chocolate City or gone to the leeches living at the expense of productive citizens. We worked hard to rebuild and we appreciate help given us by everyone. Thanks.
That's the funniest comment of the night!
September 11, 2008 - 23:03 ET byChocolate city? Leeches? Where's the next Tri-kappa fraternity party? Don't forget your sheet...
Übercon
»→ Urbancon
September 12, 2008 - 06:16 ET by Cool ArrowIf your memory served you well, you'd realize "chocolate city" is a term coined by mayor Nagin himself. Sorry about your memory not serving you well.
All by himself, Nagin declared his racist beliefs.
"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin
Oh, I see...
September 12, 2008 - 13:39 ET byCoolArrow,
...so if you hear someone like Nagin use a racial term, you are now allowed to use the term...? So, when does the Tri-Kappa Fraternity hold it's meetings?
Ubercon
get over it ubercon
September 11, 2008 - 22:08 ET by candanceThe bridge collapse in MN had nothing to do with a lack of funding. Unless you lived in Minneapolis around the time of the bridge collapse, don't come on here talking smack like you know what happened.
For the record, the state of MN had budget surpluses as far back as 05 (the deficit under Jesse Ventura was reformed by a Republican) but conveniently all the extra money was spent as soon as it was collected.
http://wcco.com/local/surplus.Minnesota.state.2.353456.html
Take your insinuations elsewhere.
Not my words nor insinuation...
September 11, 2008 - 22:15 ET byJohn McCain's words...would you like the YouTube video?
Übercon
McCain's words?
September 11, 2008 - 22:41 ET by candanceI don't even like McCain, never have, never will. He says a lot of things I think are stupid. It doesn't surprise me to hear he said that and I don't need the YouTube to believe you.
But I'm puzzled that you come back from a news article with the remark that McCain said the opposite so it's all whatever. Facts are facts no matter *who* makes up their own story.
How much should she have
September 11, 2008 - 22:17 ET by RESTLESS 1How much should she have received for the plane? Please explain what you mean by "...at a loss". I have resold every car I ever owned "at a loss". Must we explain the word "depreciation" to you? The plane was 26 years old for Pete's sake.
Oh, and the only "credibility issues" around here are your conservative credentials. Palin has received less federal money than any of her predecessors in the same time span. She suspended the state gas tax for one year, not three months like others.
And, other than hiking the tax on oil companies, she has lowered taxes in Alaska. Now, I would love to hear an explanation on that as much as anyone, but one must also remember that oil is about the only resource Alaska has that makes the state any money. Besides, maybe the fallout from that will teach her a lesson. I also have not heard her say that she would do the same thing nationwide.
In the end, all things considered, she is the most conservative person on either ticket, or, other than Paul*, any of the people in the primaries.
*I do like Paul's fiscal positions. It's his foreign policy that keeps him from being taken seriously.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Clear the dance floor!
September 11, 2008 - 22:54 ET byThere's so much spinning and twisting going on around here, it's amazing to watch...try this exercise...go to YouTube & type in "John McCain bridge to nowhere". I would love to hear your thoughts on some of his speeches where he continues to reference 'the bridge to nowhere' as an example of pork barrel spending in Congress and his thoughts on where the money should have been spent...child tax credit, MN bridge inspections, etc. As I have said not my words. I think I've proven my point. I'll move on now...it's tough to argue with those who want to believe in the holy mother of Alaska as the messiah to the Republican party.
Übercon
I think the messiahs of the
September 11, 2008 - 23:00 ET by HermanoI think the messiahs of the Republican Party are Obama and Biden. This thing shouldn't even be close, yet McCain/Palin are tied. You may be focusing on the wrong people, uber.
The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty
Ubercon
September 11, 2008 - 23:00 ET by Cool ArrowHow about it shouldn't have been spent at all, no more than the $900 million in pork Obammy brought home to Illinois.
Let's agree there is only one Ron Paul, and be done with it.
"that was the trip of a lifetime to visit our troops in Kuwait and stop and visit our injured soldiers in Germany" - Sarah Palin
Agreed!
September 11, 2008 - 23:08 ET byI'm with ya!
Look Ubercon,
September 11, 2008 - 23:10 ET by RESTLESS 1If you really think that spending the money on infrastucture, (which was needed by the way), at far less than the bridge would have cost is liberal, reckless spending, then I can't help you. McCain was saying those things when the bridge was planned. It may very well be that what the money was actually spent on would meet with his approval, not that it matters. She took the money, yes, and spent it where needed, at half the cost of the damn bridge. Get over it will ya. She is the VP nominee.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
R1, I think Ubercon here is really an Uberlib.
September 11, 2008 - 23:10 ET by R D HelmAnd what is more, I am beginning to detect the stench of troll fuzz. :-O
-Dave.
Dave, had the glasses on
September 11, 2008 - 23:13 ET by HermanoDave, had the glasses on for a while, eh? :) Anyone else here think ubercon was conservative?
The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty
Dave...tsk, tsk.
September 11, 2008 - 23:28 ET byI've noticed your overall propensity to start calling a poster a troll or to demand an apology for some offense to you or use very foul vulgar language when you begin to lose an arguement. I think you might want to take a deep breath and use your incredible intellect to dampen your rage at ideas, views, & thoughts which might be diametrically opposed to your stance on certain topics. Can we at least agree to not get you so upset at others?
Übercon
you know what ubercon
September 11, 2008 - 23:42 ET by candanceI've noticed your propensity to abandon arguments you are losing in favor of lower hanging fruit. That's one of the fingerprints of a troll.
Candance, Noise, static
September 12, 2008 - 13:44 ET byCandance,
Noise, static and the occasional drive-by quip is the true sign. Have something to add?
Ubercon
Whew! I'm so glad there was
September 11, 2008 - 23:46 ET by mastersofdeceitWhew! I'm so glad there was nothing illegal about it. Thanks for the info.
Dee, had I said what PT did about Sarah Palin's daughter...
September 11, 2008 - 23:25 ET by R D Helm...I would have been blown out of here faster than UKW through a goose.
His multiple highly offensive and crude comments were forwarded to the PTB here. I was told this by a long time friend here who I trust implicitly.
Last time I checked, PT is still here.
Perhaps there is, as you say, nothing "sinister" afoot here, but I have noticed over the last 2 years here at NB that some are held to a different standard than are others.
But that's just me.
-Dave.
Dave
September 12, 2008 - 14:18 ET by Noel SheppardDave,
Forgive me: what offensive comments about Sarah's daughter? Also, what's "PTB"?
You know, it seems folks think that every post by every person in every thread is being carefully scrutinized. Do you think that's what happens here? Think we have that kind of manpower?
Sheesh. PT posts extremely lengthy pieces. You think we read all of them? Do you?
Would you rather people like me spend their time monitor the comments sections or writing? Which is a better use of MY time? ns
I must admit...
September 12, 2008 - 16:41 ET byNoel,
I've enjoyed your writings and musings for as long as I have been here and before I came on board. I would suggest everyone make a comment or two and move on to the next topic. Keep up the good work.
Ubercon
PIt bull with lipstick...
September 4, 2008 - 10:10 ET by Dagny TaggartSpeaking as an outsider, i.e. Canuck, I thought Gov Palin spoke quite well last night. She was passionate, direct, humorous, and did not appear to be nervous whatsoever. A terrific rookie performance on the national stage. Personally, I didn't see the non-stop flaws the MSNBC clown car claims to have spotted.
As an aside, someone could possibly make a small fortune marketing "pit bull Palin" lipstick. I would like to suggest the Republicans get some promotional lip gloss on the market now, with all proceeds going to charity.
I thought her speech was
September 4, 2008 - 10:17 ET by sinaI thought her speech was excellent. I think my favorite line was where she explained what a mayor does "It's like being a community organizer except with responsibilities" (just off the top of my head).
I'm not a US citizen (yet) but I sincerely hope that those of you who *do* have the right to vote are a lot more excited about voting for this ticket, vs. holding your nose and voting McCain because he's the least bad choice.
And I'm also hoping she can talk some sense into McCain re: global warming!
Welcome!
September 4, 2008 - 13:16 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsI'm not a US citizen (yet)
You're trying to become a US citizen? Didn't you get the memo that the whole world hates the US?
LOL just kidding, hope you get your citizenship soon!
D
Keep the ILLEGALS out, join NumbersUSA to send free faxes to your reps.
sina, welcome to America, and to NewsBusters as well.
September 11, 2008 - 00:03 ET by R D Helm...vs. holding your nose and voting McCain
LOL, you are okay by me!
-Dave.
Colors include
September 4, 2008 - 10:38 ET by Hero SquadColors include BarREDcuda.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
But they are SO HAPPY in HAPPYLAND!!!
September 6, 2008 - 19:12 ET by UnsaneWhy would you switch your citizenship to this country? According to some other Canadian posters, because Canadians have FREE HEALTH CARE, everyone there is OH SO HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Hence my occasional referencing of Canada as "Happyland")
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Palin was great BUT
September 4, 2008 - 10:13 ET by Delsathe MSM is asking today on CNN, "How can she say she will be an advocate in the White House for special needs children when she vetoed money for special needs as Governor of Alaska?"
Naturally the Left only sees "an advocate" as equalling throwing money $$$$$ at the issue.
In saying she'd be an adovcate for special needs, SHE did NOT say she'd throw money into the streets.
They just don't get the fact that you can help ALL people with all kinds of needs WITHOUT GOVERNMENT getting involved!!!
They suggest she is speaking out of both sides of her mouth when in fact, it is nothing of the sort!
Special needs will have an advocate NOT a private bank account!!
THE LEFT WILL NEVER GET IT!!
OK, Delsa:
September 4, 2008 - 18:25 ET by j. frank wilsonWhat precisely does it mean to be "an advocate" in the White House for special needs children?
Frank
September 4, 2008 - 23:47 ET by well991.One that argues for a cause; a supporter or defender:
2. One that pleads in another's behalf; an intercessor.
There is a free dictionary online.If you need any more help feel free to ask.No Charge.
Well, well
September 4, 2008 - 23:58 ET by HillbillyKingI'll make it easy for frank. Here is the link to Merriam-Webster
Try it out frank, it's not Oxford but I think it will help you out.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Frank
September 5, 2008 - 00:05 ET by Cool Arrow3. A weiner
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
well99:
September 5, 2008 - 08:08 ET by j. frank wilsonActually I was looking for something of a bit more substance. What you're telling me is that Gov. Palin would talk the talk - and that's just about it. Special needs families are probably looking for a bit more than nice speeches and moral support...
Isn't that what an Advocate
September 5, 2008 - 09:40 ET by BDIsn't that what an Advocate IS?
Aren't Lawyers and "Community Activists" advocates?
Hehehehehehe!
Check this link Frank
September 6, 2008 - 02:10 ET by well99http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/04/not-again-palin-slashes-another-childrens-programby-increasing-funding/
Also just a note:I have worked with DDs.I also did volunteer work with homeless.I worked at a food bank and we would dig up resources for those folks beside giving them some groceries.Oops forgot to put up my point.I am a firm believer in helping special care kids.
The looks of total gloom
September 4, 2008 - 10:15 ET by KarmaThe looks of total gloom and despair on the faces of Andrea Mitchell, Olberman, Matthews, etc... said it all. She's reigning on their parade.
Sarah Palin is the most qualified candidate in the history of the world.
Correct, Karma
September 4, 2008 - 10:53 ET by Mica the MagnificentI expect to see those people you mentioned to soon appear on camera hugging their teddy bears and taking their thumbs out of their mouths only long enough to say, 'Sara bad!'
And now, today's Shrub
September 4, 2008 - 10:15 ET by Roger the ShrubberAnd now, today's Shrub Report®:
“I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a ‘community organizer,’ except that you have actual responsibilities.”
Moonbats travel to Arctic to bring attention to the lack of ice, is now stuck in ice.
Ve have vays to make you lose weight. Just as long as you are not a minority living in New York City, that is.
It's Dhimmi-time! A man of indiscriminate ethnic origin, race, and religion beats woman to death baseball bat. The victim has her name and picture published, but the accused remains blissfully unknown.
Meanwhile, another man of mysteriously-unknown political party and unspecific presidential candidate super-delegate is about to plead guilty.
Today's Russia is not the Soviet Union Update.
An Obama Fundraiser Update.
Here is an interesting story of the parallels between the presidential race and the most important state in the November election: Pennsylvania.
Happy 51st to Pat Tallman. Any fan of Babylon 5 or George Romero films knows who I am talking about…
Whoops! Will the NYT issue a front-page retraction? I doubt, since the story was fake but accurate, right?
BDS is sooooo 2004. Introducing: PDS!
Who knew Julie Christie still drove men crazy? Someone ought to tell those p*ssy gangs that THIS is the way to conduct bidness, er, business.
Senator Biden shows off is obviously-more credible foreign policy/military knowledge.
Speaking of Biden, he was for off-shore drilling before he was against off-shore drilling.
Shocking News Story of the Day: Democrat(ic) Party fundraising arm conducts poll, finds women who are not impressed with Palin.
The Pic of the Day. What media bias?
And, finally, The Palin scandal continues.
Rog, great Pennsytucky article
September 4, 2008 - 10:46 ET by IgnatzJFahrquarIt's deja vu all over again ... the 2004 election. The Dims AND the Main Stream Morons consistently forget about middle/small town America and what makes them tick ... and what pisses them off.
"All generalizations are false, including this one.” Mark Twain
The Obama-Buchanan connection
September 4, 2008 - 10:53 ET by Hero Squad"Here is an interesting story of the parallels between the presidential race and the most important state in the November election: Pennsylvania."
Great article from top to bottom. Our Republican representative was ousted primarily on the midnight pay raise issue after serving only two terms, coming in as a supposed "reformer."
The Republican ticket can still win without Pennsylvania, but Democrats cannot. If Pennsylvania goes into the McCain column, you can pretty much call the election at that point.
It'll be close, but more and more it looks like it could happen.
Obamas in our town today for a rally in Buchanan Park... yup, he's speaking at a park named after the undisputed worst U.S. President in history. How apropos.
McCain's here next Tuesday. Maybe I'll see if I can stop by and congratulate him on his VP choice.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Will there be a photo op of
September 4, 2008 - 11:13 ET by Roger the ShrubberWill there be a photo op of Obama and Biden putting up an Amish birdhouse, ala Witness?
Biden has to finish the
September 4, 2008 - 12:08 ET by Hero SquadBiden has to finish the popsicles first.
I so hope that there's a photo op with Obama standing at or near something with Buchanan's name-portrait, etc. I'll keep an eye out for that possibility in our local newspapers (one leans left, the other (where I was once a lowly inturn) leans right).
What were the organizers thinking, putting Obama in a location named after the worst U.S. president? There are other parks here in Lancaster named after innocuous things. Hope that some of the GOP here catch on and make light of it.
The park is about 5 blocks from my office here... so I'm going to have to leave early in order to overcome the traffic and get home in time for more important matters... my fantasy football draft.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Good night for a draft!
September 4, 2008 - 12:28 ET by Roger the ShrubberGood night for a draft! :)
Had my last one a couple of nights ago. Can't wait until Steeler Sunday...
As for Obama, I guess they dodged bullets by not scheduling to appear in Bird-in-Hand or Intercourse, huh?
You know what they say...
September 4, 2008 - 13:12 ET by Hero SquadYou know what they say... if you are going to go to Bird-in-Hand, you're going to have to make a stop in Blue Ball.
I paid a quick visit to Intercourse last week. Twice, actually. It's the fastest way from our house to the beach.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
I know what you mean, Hero Squad
September 4, 2008 - 13:28 ET by Mica the MagnificentSorry to hear it was a 'quick visit to Intercourse.'
I know what you mean. Sometimes I don't have the testicular fortitude to stay long either.
Booooo!
September 4, 2008 - 13:57 ET by Roger the ShrubberBooooo!
Loved it
September 4, 2008 - 10:15 ET by SpikerShe and Rudy both hit it out of the park.
McCain/Palin = Change I Can Believe In
Is Michael Moore eating his words?
September 4, 2008 - 10:16 ET by mustangsallyI wonder if Michael Moore still thinks God hates the Republican party? The Convention seems to be coming together rather well, don't you think, Michael?!
I think this review from the other side of the Atlantic is pretty telling about where things really stand:
http://www.thesun.co...
I love that article too mustangsally
September 4, 2008 - 10:18 ET by Dee BunkIt's great that down to earth Europeans can relate to her also
Michael Moore's menu
September 4, 2008 - 10:32 ET by nkviking75Is Michael Moore eating his words?
Why not? It looks as though he's eaten everything else.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
I had confidence
September 4, 2008 - 10:16 ET by Adam_MEI always knew she was articulate and charming. I viewed tons of clips of her on Youtube over the last few months and she never looked out of her element(unlike a certain Democrat Presidential nominee).
But I never expected her to be THAT good and THAT aggressive. She just tore Barry a new one. And the beauty of all her barbs is that they were all based in fact, and not mistruths like Obama saying during his acceptance speech that McCain believes rich equals a $5+ million annual income.
The media will obviously pile on her. Hell, they already have. What's hilarious is that you could tell they didn't know what to say for about 15 minutes until they were fed Democrat talking points from the Obama camp. But they don't know how to deal with this.
Who knows what'll happen over the next 60 or so days? But McCain has a legitimate shot at this now. The debates can clinch it.
Fantastic
September 4, 2008 - 10:17 ET by Mica the MagnificentMy a-political wife stood up and cheered as Sara spoke. Palin got my wife interested in politics for the first time.
Last night as Sara spoke, I couldn't help but think about the comments Sally Quinn made that Palin should have rejected McCain's offer for the VP slot because she has 5 kids including a down's syndrome infant.
Imagine if McCain did reject her on that basis and the MSM got wind of it?
Quinn: Great decision, McCain. Here's a man who gets it, that woman's place is in the home. Screw that glass ceiling. Bravo!
Yeperrrr.
Mica
September 4, 2008 - 10:21 ET by ricklailI didn't stay uo and watch it but my wife did. She is like your wife she could care less about politics. She told me about this morning and was all excited about the speech. Maybe now she will listen to me when I tell her how crappy the Dems are.
If pro is the opposite of con what is the opposite of progress? Congress!
Ricklail
September 4, 2008 - 10:29 ET by Mica the MagnificentThat is all my wife talked about this morning, how terrific Palin was.
I wonder if I'll have to tell her not to scream at the t.v?
Slam Dunk, Let's
September 4, 2008 - 10:17 ET by SemperrightSlam Dunk,
Let's start filling out the cabnet (The dream team)
Attny Gen- Rudy
Sec of State - Newt
Embassidor to UN - Condi
Sec Def - Gen Patreus
I think you get the idea
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference.
The MARINES don't have that problem."
President Ronald Reagan - 1985
Attny Gen- Rudy Concur,
September 4, 2008 - 10:24 ET by BDAttny Gen- Rudy
Sec of State - Newt
Embassidor to UN - Condi
Sec Def - Gen Patreus
Treasury?
The others are all gimme's who do not really matter much in the scheme of things.
Why would we need an
September 4, 2008 - 10:44 ET by dmntd1Why would we need an ambassador to the UN? I would think we need an evictor to the UN. Get rid of them, let them solve all of the world's problems as Sen Obama thinks they can.
Fascism is a religious conception in which man is seen in his imminent relationship with a superior law and with an objective will that transcends the particular individual - Mussolini
Dream team modification, the UN
September 4, 2008 - 13:31 ET by UnsaneKeep the US in the UN, they have their purposes. BUT, kick the UN to their other HQ building in Geneva. Then we can turn the old HQ in NYC into a parking garage:-).
I'd have to agree. John Bolton as SecState instead of Newt G-------. (Sheesh, where would I put Newt if I were king for a day? Don't know...)
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Newt- Homeland security
September 4, 2008 - 13:43 ET by SemperrightNewt- Homeland security maybe, he would do well anywere, I could also see him being Commish of Social Sec.
and just to cram it to the tin foilers
Secretary of Energy - The honorable Dick Cheney
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference.
The MARINES don't have that problem."
President Ronald Reagan - 1985
Newt? He seems to do his
September 4, 2008 - 14:52 ET by BDNewt? He seems to do his best work while out of office and I am not sure if I would wish to interrupt that flow by putting him back under saddle.
Dick Cheney as Sec of Energy? Oooooooooh, that would make the conspiros tin-foiled hats whistle like a boiling tea kettle.
Gen. Petraeus
September 4, 2008 - 15:13 ET by HillbillyKinghead of the Joint Chiefs.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Secretary of State: Fred
September 4, 2008 - 10:56 ET by Hero SquadSecretary of State: Fred Thompson
Imagine that glare and air of absolute confidence staring you down. Putin would wee in his pants.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
1 - 10
September 4, 2008 - 10:19 ET by kilrodOn a scale of 1 to 10 i give her 1,000,000+, i agree with the above comments. I am glad to see the Reps. standing up and fighting back. Thanks NB and MRC, you do great work and are a service to the U.S.A. Now if we can get the msm talking heads fired and/or bankrupt the scum they work for it'll be even "mo better". I believe McCain/Palin are on the road to winning if they will stay on the offensive and just stand on the solid ground of what is good and right and decent.
(GRINS) kilrod
Remember, only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier
Palin
September 4, 2008 - 10:19 ET by rick007This woman is fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You go girl.
Wife test
September 4, 2008 - 10:33 ET by txcoWell, my wife came home from work yesterday and said she wanted to watch Sarah Palin's speech. She watched the speech in our bedroom since she doesn't like my channel surfing addition. After the speech ended she came out of the bedroom, with tears in her eyes, and said "she's got my vote". So for the first time in years our votes won't cancel each other out!!!!
Palin's speech.
September 4, 2008 - 10:32 ET by SchnikeysSarah's speech was good. The worst criticism I heard: "It didn't inspire me."
LOL-lercoaster.
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"My morality is your morality."
You guys have done a
September 4, 2008 - 10:35 ET by jasper1You guys have done a fantastic job! keep up the great work!
Palin was great. Giuliani was CLASSIC
September 4, 2008 - 10:35 ET by krendlerTIVO'd. Will be watching Rudy's speech again.
Man did he let the media and Obama have it - with both barrels.
BTW, did anyone see Andrea Mitchell interviewing Rudy after Palin had finished speaking? Absolutely priceless. Mitchell had this expression on her face that was a combination of utter disapproval and disgust/nausea, especially when Giuliani didn't take the bait when she asked him if he regretted attacking Obama in his speech - Rudy simply proceeded to crap on Obama some more. Mitchell's face as she turned towards the camera and handed it back to Keithy was priceless.
BTW#2, Haven't seen much dancing this week (as opposed to last week) by the pundits :-). A lot fewer smiles too, all around.
Anecdotal Evidence
September 4, 2008 - 10:37 ET by BlondeWell, if McCain put Palin on the ticket to attract the Hillary voters, I think he succeeded.
I was watching Morning Joe this a.m. Mika (in the tank for Obama) Brzinski was absolutely enthralled with Sarah Palin.
As we know, MSNBC has a bunch of ultra left-wingers on every day...and today was no different. As they took their usual shots, Mika leaped to Palin's defense, over and over. It was amazing.
One of the talking heads (Larry O'Donnel?) said something idiotic about "how is she going to be able to take care of her children?" or somesuch...Mika actually jumped out of her chair in response. She was furious in her defense of Palin's decision to run.
If Palin was able to get this kind of reaction out of an uber-liberal, imagine what the middle of the road Hillary voters are thinking.
As for the prospect of the grind of the campaign, and a debate or two with Joe Biden...I think Governor Palin (wisely not saying it, though) has a "bring it on" attitude. The woman's a big game hunter, for crying out loud...she's not afraid of anything as mundane as liberals, media talking heads, or Joe Biden.
This is only going to get better and better.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
eyes wide open
September 4, 2008 - 10:48 ET by mom_roxMika, Susan Estrich and other liberal women are seeing a different side of the left that is surprising them.
I think Sarah Palin will appeal to the Hillary voters who are similar to Reagan Democrats.
A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944
Attack of the infuriated women
September 4, 2008 - 13:22 ET by nkviking75I can't imagine why any woman wouldn't tear off the heads of these liberal idiots for suggesting that Ms. Palin can't manage career and motherhood. She has the added advantage of having older kids who can help carry the load as well as a devoted husband and extended family.
When you put the clowns in charge, don't be surprised when a circus breaks out.
Alaska Tough
September 4, 2008 - 10:42 ET by mom_roxnice. The SP version of Chuck Norris facts. One example:
I hear pundits whining about those mean-spirited Republican attacks on community organizers. They just don't get it.
A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw, 1944
<< I hear pundits whining
September 4, 2008 - 10:48 ET by krendler<< I hear pundits whining about those mean-spirited Republican attacks on community organizers. >>
Yeah, Roland The Race-Baiter Martin was crying about that last night. Guess McCain just lost the "community organizer" vote. Oh well.
Perhaps the Obama camp and the pack of raving Obama surrogates at CNN and MS-NBC shouldn't have been so quick to put down Palin's experience and the size of the town Palin governed during the past week. Payback can be a bitch :-)
Before they make
September 4, 2008 - 12:12 ET by Hero SquadBefore they make that decision, community organizers should ask themselves, "would I vote for myself for president?"
Anyway, community organizer is such a vague term anyway. How many people actually define themselves as such? Community volunteer, yes. But organizer? Sounds very bureaucratic to me.
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Hero Squad:
September 4, 2008 - 12:32 ET by j. frank wilsonHow many folks in their forties do you know who define themselves by the first job they held out of college?
Calling Sen. Obama a community organizer is an obvious attempt to demean his experience. Not that there is anything wrong with such a position - and actually it's more anti-bureaucratic than bureaucratic. Most of us no long hold the first position we obtained after graduation - either from high school or college.
Why don't conservatives refer to Sen. Obama as a civil rights attorney? Because it sounds too good?
Because he (or his campaign
September 4, 2008 - 12:53 ET by BuffNBoneBecause he (or his campaign staff) cites community organizer as part of his experience resume that makes it fair game.
If incorrect references to candidates is an issue for you, then back at you for the media chosing to use "the former mayor of Wasilla". They do it as a putdown, her correct title is Gov of Alaska.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
I think they are also using
September 4, 2008 - 13:16 ET by Hero SquadI think they are also using her "PTA" experience in that regard.
However, I would wager that thousands more people can relate to "PTA member" than to "community organizer."
*****
"People only insist that a debate stop when they are afraid of what might be learned if it continues." - George Will
Think again
September 4, 2008 - 13:37 ET by UnsaneCalling Sen. Obama a community organizer is an obvious attempt to demean his experience. Fine. What executive experience does Obama have? My guess is that being a "community organizer" is IT. Other than that, he has eight years in the IL Senate and less than two in the U.S. Senate.
This election year is going to be rare in that whoever the President is, he will come out of the Senate. Why is that such a rare thing? Care to take a stab at it?
Why don't conservatives refer to Sen. Obama as a civil rights attorney? Because it sounds too good? Actually, my guess is that is because this isn't mentioned very much by the Obama worshippers. I wonder why that is?
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
j frank.....a "civil rights attorney"??
September 4, 2008 - 14:40 ET by BEGRUNTHow many cases has he handled? How many has he won/lost? How many high profile clients does he have? ZERO.....because he was a civil rights attorney in name only......ya he has a law degree....looks good on the wall, along with his community organizer certirficate.
"If a man does his best, what else is there"?
General George S. Patton Jr.
How many folks in their
September 4, 2008 - 14:58 ET by BDHow many folks in their forties do you know who define themselves by the first job they held out of college?
Why don't conservatives refer to Sen. Obama as a civil rights attorney?
Conserv-tabulous
September 4, 2008 - 10:53 ET by SickofLibsAt the risk of sounding politically incorrect, the only thing that could have made it better for me was if she delivered the speech in a camo bra with bandoleros and big bowie knife hanging on her belt.
The subjects she covered
September 4, 2008 - 10:55 ET by Doug RNo to higher taxes, no to bigger government, yes to strong defense. She said it all.
Sarah was great!
September 4, 2008 - 10:58 ET by M_StuartMotherSays
I honestly don't know how she could have done better. The family looked great. She was gracious to the LSM who has behaved so shamefully. She has a gift!
People have wondered about the Hillary effect. Dems have forgotten that many women love their husbands, think children are a blessing, and like having a professional life. The women around me think she is a breath of fresh air and can't wait to see the Palin family grow up, especially Piper and little brother Trig.
Gov. Palin
September 4, 2008 - 10:58 ET by j. frank wilsonisn't doing herself any favor bringing up "The Bridge to Nowhere." She campaigned for it, pushed Congress to grant the earmark, and then didn't build it because the earmark wasn't large enough. However, she did spend that Federal money on other projects.
I'm amused by "conservatives" who support her. Her wealth re-distribution scheme - tax oil company profits, give the money to Alaska's citizens, ask for more Federal dollars for Alaska infra-structure improvements - apparently works for Alaska. I don't think that really works for the rest of us. It certainly doesn't do anything to bring down the price of gas.
Correct...
September 4, 2008 - 11:36 ET byj.frank wilson,
Those have been some of my thoughts, also. I may not agree with a lot of what you are saying in most threads...I will agree with you on this issue.There is something about Gov. Palin that doesn't make sense and the support from the "conservatives" who think she is on their side...She is all about the power and money feeds the electorate. She destroyed republicans in her quest for high office and redistributed more money to the constituents of Alaska. By increasing their dividends, she secured her office by buying them off...in return she promoted more gas & oil projects for the state helping to increase the bottom line of the companies but also the overall take for her supporters. She has secured more Federal monies for a wealthy state. The question- Who is paying for this increase in wealth? It's not her constituents, not her oil & gas buddies, not her lobbyists in DC...it's the American people who's footing this bill. I think she hit the ball last night...it's now a matter of time to see where it goes...homerun, foul ball, base hit, fly out or double play...time will tell...I don't like this VP pick nor ticket for that matter...Things have got to change and improve before I vote for this ticket. Just my two cents.
Ubercon
Ubercon:
September 4, 2008 - 12:25 ET by j. frank wilsonWe probably don't agree on much else - but that doesn't mean either you or me has to be disagreeable about it.
Come November we're going to elect just one President - not two. Half the country is going to be pretty happy and half pretty upset. But we've all got a lot of work to do - so whomever wins lets get behind him (him and him or him and her) and get this country headed in the right direction.
Here's a question for you: Who mentioned President Bush's name more - the Democrats in Denver or the Republicans in St. Paul? Did any speaker last night (Wednesday evening) mention President Bush? I didn't hear every word from every speaker, but I don't recall hearing his name once.
I didn't realize Bush was
September 4, 2008 - 12:55 ET by BuffNBoneI didn't realize Bush was still running for elected office.
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
BuffNBone:
September 4, 2008 - 18:34 ET by j. frank wilsonApparently you don't find it extraordinary that the party that has 8 years occupying the White House, and 6 controlling both Houses of Congress, is trying to run as outsiders who are going to drain the swamp and clean up Washington, DC. Have you seen Sen. McCain's commercials about how Washington is broken? After what - 3 decades there - now he's going to get around to changing how things are done?
I find it very interesting that the Republican party has a very well established record over the past 8 years - and now it appears it can't run on it so it's going to run from it.
Right frank, not.
September 5, 2008 - 00:15 ET by HillbillyKingDon't you find it extraordinary that the party that has had 2 years as majority in congress, are trying to run on a change platform. Why aren't they triumphing their approval rating as a signal that they are getting things done? I mean, Barry is a Senator from that party, right? I mean, those approval ratings reflect on his service, right?
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
HillbillyKing:
September 5, 2008 - 08:14 ET by j. frank wilsonThe Democratic Party majorty was seated in January 2007 - quite a bit less than 2 years. The public perception of Congress is largely shaped by the Republican majority that spent money like drunken sailors and refused to raise taxes to pay for the endless pork and wasteful programs. Have you read Mr. Smith Is Dead? It's online - check it out and see if you can still stick up for the Republicans.
Whom, by the way, continue to make sure nothing gets done in the Senate. That's the way the Senate works - a few folks can block legislation. I believe that will change come January 2009...
Correct frank.
September 6, 2008 - 00:48 ET by HillbillyKingMy mistake, they were seated in Jan 2007.
Now back to my original question;
Don't you find it extraordinary that the party that has had (edit: 20 months) as majority in congress, are trying to run on a change platform. Why
aren't they triumphing their approval rating as a signal that they are
getting things done? I mean, Barry is a Senator from that party, right?
I mean, those approval ratings reflect on his service, right?
To which your response was(minus the factual correction on date seated);
The public perception of Congress is largely shaped by the Republican
majority that spent money like drunken sailors and refused to raise
taxes to pay for the endless pork and wasteful programs. Have you read
Mr. Smith Is Dead? It's online - check it out and see if you can still stick up for the Republicans.
Whom, by the way, continue to make sure nothing gets done in the
Senate. That's the way the Senate works - a few folks can block
legislation. I believe that will change come January 2009...
Since you deflect my questions by blaming the prior Republican majority for the approval ratings now suffered by Congress, I'll ask you to apply the second sentence in your second paragraph to the previous paragraph and try my questions again.
Is this the Mr. Smith is dead, you refer too?
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Mr. Smith Is Dead
September 6, 2008 - 09:34 ET by j. frank wilsonThat's the one. Read about Alaska's Sen. Stevens and his air tanker "leasing" scheme. Years later, Gov. Palin was chair of his 527. Read about Sen. McCain's great speeches against pork and waste in the defense budget - and then he'd go ahead and vote for it.
Sen. Obama can't run on the US Senate's approval record. He can run on what he's managed to get done there. Sen. McCain is running from his record. How many of his major legislative accomplishments does he still support?
How many times was George Bush's name mentioned in the final evening of the Republican Convention? I didn't watch every minute, but I saw a lot of it. My count? "Zero." Laura Bush - 1.
Geez frank,
September 6, 2008 - 22:40 ET by HillbillyKingSen. Obama can't run on the US Senate's approval record. He can run on what he's managed to get done there.
Yet you expect the Republicans to run on their record from the past 8 years.
Thanks for your time frank, it's been entertaining.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Bush...? What's that got to do with this discussion?
September 4, 2008 - 13:38 ET byJ.frankwilson,
derailed...Bush is going to have a good legacy in the eyes of his supporters and a bad one with his opposers. So what...
We are going to elect a President and Vice-President in the fall...
I think we can agree it will be more than half of the country will be happy with the choice, the minority will need to figure out how to get elected next time.
Ubercon
Uber,
September 4, 2008 - 15:25 ET by HillbillyKingA question Ubercon,
"She is all about the power and money feeds the electorate."
And this differs from ANY other high level politician how?
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Frankie as usual when I
September 4, 2008 - 11:39 ET by Dan The Man 2Frankie as usual when I read what you post I know she is the right choice. Keep on trucking Frankie.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
Why is she the right choice if I may ask?
September 4, 2008 - 11:56 ET byDan,
She has not, I repeat, has not won me over in supporting her. She's great as a hockey milf and appeals to the pro-life crowd, the underlying issue is how she's conducted her economic policy and to those who are reaping the benefits of her decisions. At a point in time she will have to separate herself from Alaska and create wealth for the rest of us. Will she be able to do that?
Ubercon
Uber... Hmmm...last I
September 4, 2008 - 12:04 ET by bigtimerUber...
Hmmm...last I knew it is up to us to create our own wealth, not somebody in govt.
by the way, she is named VP...let's just hope she can get McCain to change his stubborness about drilling in Ak.
I don't like everything about Palin and what all she has done in Ak. and have stated so here and there in the past, not going through it anymore...I also absolutely like more of what she is than what she isn't.
No politician can please everyone....
She was absolutely FABULOUS last night...and she did speak volumes for a lot of us...
Drill Baby Drill!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
The Gov't allows us to create our own wealth.
September 4, 2008 - 12:15 ET bybigtimer,
I think you need to realize the government helps protect businesses and individuals from a variety of threats to their well being. Without government, where is the security? Without government, who regulates commerce? Without government, how do you live without water treatment plants and public works departments? Goverment allows for opportunity to prosper without it there would be no rule of law. Limited government is fine, just don't pretend you are better off without it. You did go to college, correct?
Ubercon
Oh get a grip Uber... I
September 4, 2008 - 12:22 ET by bigtimerOh get a grip Uber...
I know how the govt. works ect.
Quit yer' bitchin' and go get busy creating your own $$$...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Ubercon: Government
September 4, 2008 - 12:25 ET by BDUbercon:
Government long ago passed from protecting business to being a problem for business - witness the MOUNDS of crazed regulation government heaps on Business.
Government long ago attempted to destroy private property rights (See minimum wage laws)
Thanks BD and
September 4, 2008 - 12:33 ET by bigtimerThanks BD and Karma...
I'm in too good of a mood today to mess with somebody like Uber today...
...and BD you said it all...as we have been in business before and know exactly how stifling all the regulations and laws are that are imposed on all of us...of course I didn't go to college so I guess I know nothin'...
I could go on forever with this..but I am really in a great mood.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
BD and bigtimer,
September 4, 2008 - 12:51 ET by KarmaThe Bureau of Workers Compensation will be auditing my records in a few weeks. I have just a few employees and pay approx.$200-300 per year in premiums to the state. Even if my CPA erred by 100% (last audit was about $4.00 in my favor), what do you think this audit is going to cost my company in time and the taxpayers in dollars? Jethro knew as much as any college grad on how the government creates wealth.
Sarah Palin is the most qualified candidate in the history of the world.
How do you create your wealth without the Gov't ?
September 4, 2008 - 13:03 ET byBD,
Just thought I'd ask, it seems you're a businessman thwarted by the government regulatory process to increase your overall take. What is the main obstacle you see in creating more wealth for your business and what kind of change would you like to see?
Ubercon
The government does not create wealth
September 4, 2008 - 13:51 ET by UnsaneThe day we ask the government to allow us to create wealth is the day we are over.
Let me point you to my own company of one employee: Unsane, Inc. When I go out to create wealth, by way of investments and getting hired at various jobs, I don't ask the government for a permission slip. (I missed the part where the Constitution called upon me to do that.) Nor do I do that when I plow the earnings from said jobs into various investments.
The examples are too lengthy to list, but I also doubt that William Boeing, Bill Gates or Sam Walton asked the government's permission to set up their businesses. While the government does SOME things to allow business to thrive, like protect property through various means and deliver mail, it does not generate wealth. The PEOPLE do.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
We should not depend on the government
September 4, 2008 - 19:55 ET by j. frank wilsonto create wealth - but it's just silly to state government can't do it.
Say a developer purchases many acres of agricultural land and gets it rezoned for commercial or residential use. Instant profit - granted by the zoning change alone (the land is the same land it was before the change).
Say the Federal government changes the law on how many radio and television stations one company can own (even though those stations use the public airwaves for free). Instantly the value of those stations increases dramatically.
Then there are tax breaks, subsidies, and numerous other methods for government to funnel wealth to corporations and even individuals.
There is a difference
September 4, 2008 - 20:35 ET by HermanoThere is a difference between "creating" and "promoting." Businesses creat wealth by investing in an idea. Governments promote wealth by setting up fiscal policies that are helpful to businesses. Your examples are proof of this.
The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty
Silly. Okay, the
September 5, 2008 - 09:47 ET by BDSilly.
Okay, the Government confiscates land that could be used for any purpose at all and restictively zones it. They have effectively SAPPED the economic aspects of that land by their actions.
Then you say "ooooh, the government then lessens restrictions on that land and created wealth?'
That is like saying the government giving tax rebates thus creates wealth - asenine. If they had not sapped the economy in the first place by confiscating the wealth, they would not have the option to return it.
SARC is probably going to voice his opinion on this folly and I will undoubtedly agree with him on this silly argument of yours.
So, why is the DDR not still with us in that case?
September 7, 2008 - 20:16 ET by Unsanebut it's just silly to state government can't do it. So I am sure you can explain to me then why the DDR collapsed and not the BRD.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Ubercon....Your way off
September 4, 2008 - 14:28 ET by bassndudeUbercon....Your way off base on BD and his profession. You have no idea how wrong you are on that count. Boy, you sure stepped in it with that line of thought....lol
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Ubercon: I work in
September 4, 2008 - 15:11 ET by BDUbercon:
I work in Military Intelligence, but I am related to numerous businus people and work with others in the contracting field.
What is the main obstacle you see in creating more wealth for your business and what kind of change would you like to see?
Come again?
September 4, 2008 - 15:44 ET byBD,
Wow, you work for the Government...you work for everyone who pays taxes. Glad to have you as an employee. Your entire paycheck is derived from the government. Discounting inheritance and gifts, you make a wage to create a life for you and those you support. Sounds pretty socialist to me living off the Government. Without a constant paycheck, you'd have to find work in the private sector where risk truly rules the day. Gosh, to think of you trying to negotiate and securing my $5 dollar contract to paint my house would be sight to see right up against Juan & Jose's painting services. Since there's no Government to enforce the law, you would have to compete for lower and lower wages against possibly an illegal immigrant. Well, not illegal since the rule of law would be thrown out the window...remember no Government...I think you should enjoy the benefits of the Government and it's warm blanket of security and stop the belly aching.
If I followed your guidelines, I'd have used ya' and found someone else for cheap...when do you want to come over and join Juan & Jose's crew?
Ubercon
Wow, you work for the
September 4, 2008 - 16:02 ET by BDWow, you work for the Government
Your entire paycheck is derived from the government. Discounting inheritance and gifts,
you make a wage to create a life for you and those you support. Sounds pretty socialist to me living off the Government.
Without a constant paycheck, you'd have to find work in the private sector
where risk truly rules the day.
Gosh, to think of you trying to negotiate and securing my $5 dollar contract to paint my house would be sight to see right up against Juan & Jose's painting services.
Since there's no Government to enforce the law, you would have to compete for lower and lower wages against possibly an illegal immigrant.
Well, not illegal since the rule of law would be thrown out the window...remember no Government...I think you should enjoy the benefits of the Government and it's warm blanket of security and stop the belly aching.
If I followed your guidelines, I'd have used ya' and found someone else for cheap...when do you want to come over and join Juan & Jose's crew?
Ubercon, I dont view
September 4, 2008 - 16:02 ET by bassndudeUbercon, I dont view military personel as supporters of a Socialist support structure. The Constitution very clearly states that it is the goverments responsibility to raise armies and pay them that serve. And if you think being an infantry officer in Iraq or in the Afgan mountians, or any place else for that matter, amount to a warm blanket of security, your clearly devoid of any military knowledge. A military moron, so to speak.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Ubercon does not seem to
September 4, 2008 - 16:17 ET by BDUbercon does not seem to realize that while some governmental employees are wasteful they are often a necessary waste.
Likewise an ocasional lawyer.
But both a parasitic in nature and NEITHER of them increase wealth.
My apologies for the lack of communication...
September 4, 2008 - 16:53 ET by...and definitions. This anti-government line of thinking tends to obscure the necessity of having a government by the people, for the people. There are so many levels to government, we could not in a single thread explore every nook & cranny of what is good and bad. Obviously, government is here to stay. Seeing the forest for the trees is paramount to enjoying our high standard of living. Wealth is generated by the individuals who use the government to their benefit. UPS uses the roads to deliver packages the same roads which carry people to the stores. Those who abuse it will suffer the consquences if caught. The amount of money given to welfare types who do not deserve the checks is pale in comparison to the monies given to the private contractors who rip off the government for jobs never performed.
One can only hope...integrity rules the day.
If I offended you, I apologize. I was trying to make a point on how government is an integral factor in our lives and how this society cannot function without it. You cannot start over and wipe the slate clean...there will never be a free market in this country. It will be a limited free market with government regulation.
I'm done for now thanks for the discussion.
Ubercon
This anti-government line
September 4, 2008 - 17:39 ET by BDThis anti-government line of thinking tends to obscure the necessity of having a government by the people, for the people.
Wealth is generated by the individuals who use the government to their benefit.
The amount of money given to welfare types who do not deserve the checks is pale in comparison to the monies given to the private contractors who rip off the government for jobs never performed.
No, Ubercon,
September 4, 2008 - 12:25 ET by Karmabigtimer is correct. The government serves a limited purpose, but does not create wealth.
Also, what is with the "Milf " in regards to Sarah Palin? That sure makes you look inteligent. Didn't they teach you manners in college?
Sarah Palin is the most qualified candidate in the history of the world.
I'm not the only one around here...
September 4, 2008 - 12:56 ET by...referring to her as a milf or a VPilf. She's a good looking woman. Stop pointing me out as the only one who has referred to her as a milf. Get real!
The government doesn't create wealth?!?
As for individauls and companies?!? hmmm...defense contractors aren't becoming wealthy from the global war on terror-GWOT? Oil companies aren't becoming wealthy from their land leases?
As for the Government...the treasury produces currency at an alarming rate, to manufacture a dollar bill costs how much? pennies? The subsequent sale of said dollar bill to banks and countries produces a fiscal uptick for the citizens of this fine country...government by the people, for the people...yeah, you're right government doesn't produce wealth for itself. It's the drain of cost overruns by wasteful government contractors, earmarks to little podunk towns in Alaska which starts to increase our overall deficit. Gosh, to think no one is getting wealthy from the government...give me another break as I laugh out loud.
By the way, it's our money which is being wasted...
Ubercon
If you went to college...
September 4, 2008 - 13:14 ET by Karma...you're a fine example of why it's not a requirement to hold office. So, I get it, other posters are to blame for your lack of couth. You appear to be just another...whoops, almost forgot my manners.
Sarah Palin is the most qualified candidate in the history of the world.
Well exxxccccuuuussseeee me!
September 4, 2008 - 13:47 ET byKarma,
Scratching my head, wondering why you are trying to label me as the only poster on this site who has made this reference. Why don't you search the threads...use a little brain power to see I'm not the only one referring to Palin as a milf. By the way, do you listen to Rush? He said it over the airwaves! Don't be such a prude...eventually, you may come to realize it's a compliment instead of an insult. Give it a break...
Ubercon
Scratching my head,
September 4, 2008 - 16:17 ET by Dan The Man 2Scratching my head, wondering why you are trying to label me as the only poster on this site who has made this reference - As far as I can tell youre the only one with bad manners to do so. I doubt if Mrs Palin's husband would appreciate teh complement and would pay money to see him wipe teh floor with you after you said it.
Nuke em til they glow then shoot em in the dark.
As I said...I didn't start this...
September 4, 2008 - 17:16 ET byHere ya go...
http://newsbusters.o...
Please skewer the others as you wish...
Ubercon
One other instance? That's
September 4, 2008 - 18:53 ET by KarmaOne other instance? That's it? Did you also notice he was admonished as well? Listen, Ubercon, we're far from prudes here but, do you seriously think your use of that term was appropriate at all, let alone for the topic at hand? Just a quick apology to demonstrate you're not in the locker room would have been sufficient.
Oh. I forgot. You didn't start this. Carry on.
Ubercon, Spoken like a true blue government EMPLOYEE
September 4, 2008 - 13:52 ET by upcountrywaterENTITLEMENTS is by far the biggest chunk of gov cash outlays.
To you private wealth is BAD, because you THINK you should get a raise, and the only for you to get one, is to encourage the gov.collect more of MY tax $$$. ,,So that 25cents / hour trickle down to you.
Wonder why a gov hammer costs $700.00.. While you can go to wall mart and get one for $1.99 ???
Thousands of tons of paper work V.S. 2 bucks.
No! Oil companies are LOSING money on WORTHLESS leases.
Liberals62%
IranianUranium
The DOD has a very LARGE staff of Gov't employees...
September 4, 2008 - 14:43 ET byUpcountry,
You don't know what you are talking about...
I'm not a Gov't employee...
Private wealth is very good...
Being fiscally responsible is very good...
Dependency on foreign oil is bad.
Wasting government money is bad.
Buying a cheap chinese hammer at WalMart only fuels the deficit...bad.
Oil companies aren't complaining about record profits...bad? good for shareholders
Remember, Americans are in a state of mental recession.
Good thing, it seems gas prices are going down again...election time in the heartland!
Now if we could only figure out a way to have perpetual elections to keep the electorate happy!
Ubercon
More silliness to respond to
September 4, 2008 - 14:56 ET by UnsaneBuying a cheap Chinese hammer at Wal-Mart so that I can turn around and buy more expensive American goods (like a PC I am looking at getting in the very near future)...good. By the way, for all you protectionists out there, I own Craftsman tools, because they are made with quality in mind. (That they are forged here in the USA is icing.) As long as Sears continues to sell Craftsman products and as long as they are made well, Sears will be in business.
Anyways, yeah, doesn't it suck to have such an organization as the DoD? The protection and defense of the United States is SO overrated...
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
A PC manufactured entirely in the US?
September 4, 2008 - 15:26 ET byUnsane,
Come on, you're joking, right? Before you start waving your American flag (made in china)...look at the products you're buying. Sears enjoys the profit margins on cheap foreign products sold to you. I would love to see a retail business selling only "Made in the USA" products. It's unrealistic and a pipe dream to believe they exist. Most of the products you consume are made of a combination of US and foreign parts...it's a sobering reminder of just how much we depend on foreign products.
No, it doesn't suck to have the DOD. The point I was making was the fact that the DOD consumes most of our resources than entitlements. The protection and defense of this country has started to become more and more expensive as we transition money away from our troops and into the private enterprises deemed better than the troops we have...something has got to change. Private contractor costs about $350,000 as opposed to a Private in the Army making how much???
Let's stop paying the contracting firms and see how fast they cut & run as opposed to the Private who will earn a medal for saving the contractor's ass...
I want the money to go back to our brave men and women who defend this country not some private contractor siphoning off our well earned money. Yeah, you're right no one gets wealthy from the government nor does the government create wealth...What a joke!
Ubercon
Rebuttal in brief
September 4, 2008 - 17:31 ET by UnsaneUm, ubercon, you seem to be new here, but I don't need you to explain the world of economics to me. Yeah, the PC I will buy probably has a Malaysian keyboard and chips made in Thailand assembled in China, but ultimately, this is an American purchase. So who do I ultimately benefit?
If you have been here awhile you would know that I am constantly pilloried by protectionists and people who are horrified that the United States gets weather systems from the outside world, much less contains ANY foreign goods.
The DoD consumes most of our resources? Your ignorance is astounding. I would think that $500 billion or so out of a budget that is $3 TRILLION isn't really all that much. Face facts, entitlement spending is the biggest component of the budget. It could be solved if we could privatize Social Security and Medicare, things which you are doubtless opposed to.
Besides, why are you or anyone whining about contractors? I worked with them in-country, many do fine work. And YOU ASKED FOR THEM. The people of the United States get what they ask for and they got contractors filling many functions the active duty ranks once filled. Where were you in the early 1990s when this trend began? I'd imagine nowhere to be found.
Yeah, you're right no one gets wealthy from the government nor does the government create wealth...What a joke! The joke's on YOU. The government does not create wealth. They can permit wealth to BE created by protecting private property and so on...but I notice you did not respond when I posted the same to your above post where you implied that government exists to create wealth.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Ubercon ;defending the Homeland is bad???
September 4, 2008 - 15:50 ET by upcountrywaterDOD is big, needs to be privatized!
NOWWWW you are sayn ???"Private wealth is good".
OHHH like trust funds, money that's already made and saved.. for despersal later to ungrateful kin.
BUTT who ever makes big bucks in todays world is bad?
Oil prices are down, because of excess inventory..
WE do agree on this:
"Remember, Americans are in a state of mental recession."
Privatize the schools.
Liberals62%
IranianUranium
Privatize everything?
September 4, 2008 - 16:15 ET byUpcountry,
Okay...sounds good...just as long as I make the money and you don't. Got an idea? Let me steal it from you and make money from it. Got a product? Let me get someone to make it cheaper and undercut your pricing. Better yet let's have the Gov't pay for the training of our troops and then I'll give them more money when their deployment is over. Of course, I'll secure the Gov't contract for being able to pay them well...real well. If the Gov't doesn't pay, I can always ship them off to a better customer.
Got nothing against making money...it's how you make it and whether or not it's been legitmately gained. My pet peeve is the corruption that continues to permeate the system.
As for the dispersal of trust funds to ungrateful kin, you gotta have it to give...and you can decide where it goes before you do.
75 cent drop in gas prices over the last couple of months...yeah, supply is way up...
Privatize the schools? Who are you, Milton Friedman? Sounds like a Univ. of Chicago experiment bound to fail...
You don't like Bush's plan?
Ubercon
Ubercon , Whaaaatttt, hay twister ,
September 4, 2008 - 18:51 ET by upcountrywaterOkay...sounds good...just as long as I make the money and you don't.
This is classic Kleptocracy.
Got an idea? Let me steal it from you and make money from it.
Go for it, try and make money, dare ya.
Got a product? Let me get someone to make it cheaper and undercut your pricing.
Yes I do, and many others have tried and FAILED.
Got nothing against making money..
You meant having money GIVEN to you...
Yes supplies of oil are up.
Oil prices dropped yesterday after a
government report showed weekly rise in US crude inventories for the
first time in six weeks.
Oil inventories rose 9.39 million barrels to 305.9 million barrels, the biggest gain since March 2001
Liberals62%
IranianUranium
The government doesn't
September 4, 2008 - 13:53 ET by HermanoThe government doesn't create wealth?!? No it doesn't! The government prints money as a way to promote trade. That is a way too common misunderstanding by liberals, which is why they are weak fiscally.
The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty
The government doesn't
September 4, 2008 - 15:14 ET by BDThe government doesn't create wealth?!?
Given the opportunity...
September 4, 2008 - 15:18 ET by blooloo... Barack's plan for businesses is to tax the hell out of them. Where is this "gov't protection" you speak of? As for personal taxes, BO wants a tax of 28% on any profit if you sell your house, 39.6% of any stocks, insurance policies, IRA's, college funds, retirement funds, or ANYthing that pays or reinvests dividend... I'll never be able to retire at a rate like that (and neither will anybody else for that matter). He also wants to re-instate the inheritance tax. That's what Obama's government wants to do for you... You yourself state limited government is fine, but, the Dems are planning on cranking it up a notch or three!
Her job as governor is to
September 4, 2008 - 12:17 ET by HermanoHer job as governor is to do what is in her constituents best interest. She changed a bad plan to favor the people of her state. I notice that it did not favor the townfolk of Wasilla over others. You can ask the question, but her history says she can.
The Newsbusters Comments Crew: Saving the Environment - One Ribeye at a Time! h/t Dr_Liberty
Let me ask you a question
September 4, 2008 - 14:21 ET by acumenWhat is it exactly about Palin wanting to shake up the good ol' boy network in DC that you have a problem with? Or any of you other Palin detractors -- What is your problem with electing a person that wants to fight corruption in DC as she has exhibited she was capable of doing in Alaskan politics? I would think Americans on the right or the left would be in favor of electing someone that is willing to fight political corruption regardless of Party affiliation as Sarah Palin has demonstrated time and again she is willing to do.
I am seriously asking this question and hoping to get a response - What do you find so appalling about a candidate wanting to fight political corruption regardless of Party affiliation? Is it fear of losing unearned taxpayer handouts? Are you part of the 'good ol' boy network? I mean, what could possibly be your reason? It makes no sense....
Two things...
September 4, 2008 - 15:00 ET by1. Her very short experience with dealing in Republican corruption in Alaska does not translate into the subtle complexities of dealing with the overall power structure in DC and its many layers of wheelin' and dealin'. Goes back to the lack of experience.
2. She will be easily manipulated by forces beyond her comprehension and control. The power brokers are entrenched whether you like it or not. We need people who can change the system to benefit the country as a whole and not just a narrow slice. I'd much rather an experienced surgeon working on me than a butcher.
Why do the people who want to change DC, then stay in DC after their terms are over? Power and money go hand in hand...not everyone goes back to their podunk towns and trailer park constituents...
Plus, isn't she still lactating? Her female hormones must be wreckin' havoc on her thought processes...any ladies want to chime in...?
Ubercon
The snobbery and misogyny of Ubercon
September 4, 2008 - 15:11 ET by UnsaneHer executive experience is greater than that of either Obama or Biden.
...not everyone goes back to their podunk towns and trailer park constituents...What more evidence do I need of your elitism and extreme snobbery?
Plus, isn't she still lactating? Her female hormones must be wreckin' havoc on her thought processes...any ladies want to chime in...? So, not only do you have to go out of your way to be an elitist snob, but you have to be a misogynist as well. (Well, maybe your misogyny is only directed at Rightist women.)
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Uns... He isn't worth my
September 4, 2008 - 15:15 ET by bigtimerUns...
He isn't worth my time or energy...he knows not what he speaks.
You said a lot for me anyway...along with others...I'm done with him.
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Whoops!
September 4, 2008 - 16:26 ET by Roger the ShrubberDid someone let Hater, er, Leon back onto the boards?
Elitism and extreme snobbery?
September 5, 2008 - 13:57 ET byTelling it like it is...I'm not saying it's a bad thing...eventually, those good hearted people from podunk towns and trailer parks will produce offspring that prospers and pulls the rest of their family out of squalor and abject poverty. If they could only get an earmark for a better sewer system and school...
As for lactating and female hormones...haven't some of you pointed out the hormonal ups and downs of a Hillary presidency? No misogynistic statements have ever been said by posters on this website...all of a sudden the air of political correctness permeates the air!
Nice try, Unsane, keep up the good work.
Ubercon
Katie Cupcake Tactics By Ubercon
September 6, 2008 - 20:46 ET by UnsaneTelling it like it is...I'm not saying it's a bad thing...eventually, those good hearted people from podunk towns and trailer parks will produce offspring that prospers and pulls the rest of their family out of squalor and abject poverty. If they could only get an earmark for a better sewer system and school... Very good! You counter an accusation of extreme elitism and total snobbery with MORE extreme elitism and MORE total snobbery!!!
Keep it up! You know, during the 2000 Presidential campaign, there was an effort afoot to paint TX as a Third World country due to the governorship of Bush...a Dem mayor of Houston, Lee Brown, demanded they knock it off, because he knows what I know about my home state...that TX is an extremely proud place, and for all people think of it being a massive Hickville, it has the 4th, 6th, and 8th largest cities in the United States. Now, I realize Palin is from AK and not from TX, but the same snobbery and provincialism that TX (being in the heart of Flyover Country) is subjected to is, and has been, pointed at AK. Mr. Brown knew that a sustained attack as such would have ensured it remain Republican for another hundred years or so. Elitism and snobbery such as yours only ensures that places like TX and AK remain firmly conservative.
As for lactating and female hormones...haven't some of you pointed out the hormonal ups and downs of a Hillary presidency? No misogynistic statements have ever been said by posters on this website...all of a sudden the air of political correctness permeates the air! You are not getting away with Katie Cupcake tactics THAT easily. If you have the guts, you will quote SPECIFIC INSTANCES, just as I have quoted a specific instance of your hatred for women. I don't dislike Hillary Clinton for being a woman, I have an infinitely better reason for not liking her. Well, two reasons. One, she is a Socialist. Two, she passionately holds deep contempt for what I do on a part-time basis.
Well, Miss Cupcake? Any specifics to back up your lame general accusation??? Hmmmmmmmmm?????
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Did you check out Cindy's outfit on the opening of the RNC?!?
September 6, 2008 - 21:34 ET by$300,000 estimated cost...I was alarmed how bold she could be for showing those poor people in TX & AK she understands and can empathize with them and their struggles. As long as they keep drinking her belgian beer, she'll be just fine...Explain to me the definition of elitism? Would you consider Cindy & John common working types? The labels you choose need to be defined and used correctly in the correct context. John jokingly described to be rich you need to make $5 million....I'm sorry to report I'm not rich by any means...As for women...the more I grow older, the more appreciation I have for them...I've found the younger ones not as experienced as the older ones...the bigger the better...they appreciate the attention.
Übercon
Did you bother to think for
September 6, 2008 - 21:39 ET by BlazerDid you bother to think for one second that the outfit Mrs. McCain, or our next first as I like to call her, could have been wearing a knock-off kinda like a cubic zirconia is compared to a diamond, before you decided to parrot one of the latest liberal talking points.
Of course you didn't.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Jeekers...Cindy wearing a knockoff dress & fake diamonds?
September 6, 2008 - 22:28 ET byThat's rich! Pardon the pun...
A woman of prestige does not, I repeat, does not wear knock offs and fake diamonds! She can afford it and she can flaunt it. If she wore anything you described, she would have been destroyed for showing herself as a fraud. You honestly believe Oscar would have sat quietly as he watched Cindy & Laura parade around stage with knockoff dresses of his own designs? That's delusional! Don't you realize the GOP is about showing off their successes to those who can recognize those successes...no, I guess you can't...It's much more palatable for those being duped to believe their elitist leaders are just like every common person...
She was stunning in her real Oscar gold dress & huge diamonds!
Übercon
Alert!! It's the Fashion Police
September 7, 2008 - 20:16 ET by BlondeUber....with the uumlats (or whatever they're called, I just noticed...hmmmm...another euro, eh?).
News Flash for you. Get in line if you want to be the Fashion Police, here.
Line jumpers are most certainly not welcome.
But by all means, keep trying to imitate a conservative. Your little masquerade is pathetic. PATHETIC.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
"I'm getting clobbered so I'll just change the subject"
September 7, 2008 - 19:55 ET by UnsaneWell, well, well. It seems you could not back up your claims, so you decided to change the subject. And in so doing, you show me that you are a Socialist.
Rich people DO come from a "working" background. What, do you think that rich people NEVER EVER WORK? If THAT is the case, I suggest you hit a library and go check out The Millionaire Next Door by Mr. Stanley and Mr. Danko. The people that you so ache to steal from are a little different than you think.
And you HAVE to steal from people. After all, you are the one who thinks that wealth is generated by the government. If that isn't a clarion call for kleptocracy I don't know what is. (This also shows me you can't generate any wealth on your own which I find downright depressing.)
It is ALL coming out now. Your snobbery, your extreme contempt for your fellow man (you showcase that through your Socialism and your desire to completely micromanage and control people to the point where you tell them where, when, how, and on what they spend their money), your misogyny. You are quite the ugly individual here.
So, going back to the original point, have you found any specific evidence of NB hatred of Hillary Clinton strictly because she is a woman?
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
unbelievable ubercon
September 6, 2008 - 22:19 ET by candanceIs this a joke? First you mock reformers for not going back to their trailer park constituents, and then you say it's not elitism since trailer trash have been known to have successful children.
That is the tackiest, rudest, most insensitive thing I've read on here all day.
And as for your comment about Palin lactating, it's possible for a woman to produce milk and be logical at the same time. That's about as stupid as asking if Obama will be able to function with Michelle in the same room without his hormones getting out of control. Check my track all you like and you'll never catch me attacking Hillary for being a woman.
You have no idea who all you're talking to on NB. Get to know people before you start going off with verbal diarrhea.
acumen:
September 4, 2008 - 20:15 ET by j. frank wilsonThere's nothing wrong with actually fighting corruption. The problems come from talking about it but not doing it.
Have you read "Mr. Smith is Dead?" It's on the web. It details how Sen. Ted Stevens pushed through his airborne tanker "leasing" boondoogle during the Congressional rush to pass a defense budget after 9/11. Yet Gov. Palin had no problem heading Sen. Stevens 527 organization - years after Sen. Stevens tried to push through this scam.
Irony
September 7, 2008 - 20:12 ET by UnsaneThis post from one who wants to INVITE corruption by having government completely and totally have micromanaging control over our lives.
You are still going to have to try much much harder to get me to join the Socialists in voting for two Socialists.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Silliness
September 4, 2008 - 13:43 ET by UnsaneI am equally amused by Socialists like you who whine about the price of gas, and then when presented with ideas that actually WILL bring down the price of gas, throw an absolute fit.
See, frank, doing nothing doesn't bring down the price of gas either. Helping yourself to what oil companies make and stealing from them doesn't help either. In fact, that is far worse than doing nothing.
I lived in AK and if the PFD works for them, so be it. That is up to the State of AK. Wow, imagine that...a Rightist saying that if a state wants to try some new and novel approach to something, then it should do so.
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Unsane:
September 5, 2008 - 18:19 ET by j. frank wilsonYou've managed to take both sides of the conversation. Did you learn this from Sen. McCain - support it before you're against it?
Gov. Palin pushed through a very hefty tax on oil company's "windfall" profits and then distributed the money directly to the citizens of Alaska. Along with at least partially explaining her very high approval rating, is that a government program you approve of?
How about Gov. Palin's proposal to pay each Alaskan $1,200 in energy debit cards? Or suspend the state's gasoline tax? Do those ideas make sense to you?
Gov. Palin promised an open and transparent state government. State scientists studied the polar bear situation - and now she's done nothing to make public that research. Sound familiar? What information is she afraid of?
And then there are her flip-flops on "Troopergate..."
Quit being a Mudkitty,
September 5, 2008 - 18:28 ET by BlondeQuit being a Mudkitty, frank.
David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive
Mudkitty,
September 6, 2008 - 00:53 ET by HillbillyKingDamn good one Blonde! :-}
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
LOL ! Mudkitty is perfect.
September 6, 2008 - 20:55 ET by BlazerLOL ! Mudkitty is perfect. 'Round here we call em' em' catfish,.... ya' know something else that feeds from the bottom in the mud on detritus. Perfect analogy.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious. "
- Ben Kenobi on Liberals, and the MSM.
" The Cake is a lie."
Mudkitty
September 6, 2008 - 20:51 ET by Unsanefrank, if I wanted the Perfect Presidential Ticket to vote for, I would run for office. And if I were to win, the America that would result would have you running screaming to Ontario as an emigrant from this country.
You are going to have to try a LOT harder to get me to vote with Socialists like yourself for a pair of Socialists.
(Besides, Blonde said it best of all. Mudkitty.)
Whoever casts a vote for Obama-Biden is nothing more than a common thief. Whoever fails to vote against them is nothing more than a moral coward.
Jazzed
September 4, 2008 - 10:58 ET by ArtisteShe not only accomplished what she needed to.....she took it right over the top. I am really jazzed about the McCain/Palin ticket.
One, Meet Sarah
September 4, 2008 - 10:59 ET by NoMoreClintonsThe One . . . has more than met his match.
fox has the Palin biography video playing now
September 4, 2008 - 11:01 ET by Dee Bunkthat was cut last night due to time restraints
To summarize Sarah's speech in sports terms..
September 4, 2008 - 11:13 ET by goldenthroatThat incredible speech was comparable to how Tom Hamilton, play-by-play announcer for the Cleveland Indians, would shout:
"A swing and a drive - deeeeeeeeep left - a-waaaaaaaaaaay back - this ball is gone!"
Sarah Barracuda hit it out of the park, having the bases loaded with Romney, Huckabee and Gulliani - it was a grand slam Wednesday night - you go, girl!
"The sun's not going down - the horizon's moving up!" - Firesign Theatre
I think that come Nov. 5,
September 4, 2008 - 11:07 ET by Hero SquadI think that come Nov. 5, pundits will be saying that no vice presidential candidate has ever had more impact on an election result than Sarah Palin.
This morning Glenn Beck played highlights from her speech set to "Barracuda." That and his analysis brought home for me just how incredible her speech was last night. As it sinks in, it only gets better.
Can she debate Joe Biden tomorrow? That's gonna be fun... a polished politician with a penchant for saying inappropriate things vs. a smart, well-spoken Mom who speaks her mind and doesn't give a hoot who you are.
Biden will screw up at some point just trying to keep up with her pace.
*****
"How many Delawares do you think would fit into Alaska?" - Sarah Palin
The question at the top of
September 4, 2008 - 11:07 ET by bigtimerThe question at the top of the OT asking if she accomplished what she needed to...
Hell yes...and then some!!!
Starting with Linda Lingle forward the speeches were great, starting with Steele the rest of the speakers were on fire....I have never enjoyed so much in one night as I did last night when it comes to a convention, or for that matter anything else I can think of politically...
There were such great one-liners, such truth in the speeches, such passion...Rudy was at the top of his game wasn't he?!
Sarah ain't going anywhere msm, but keep it up, because they will soon in my opinion, they just have received so much criticism in the last two days that they are pretending to lay low for now...as much as they had hoped they could drive her out...all it will do is elevate her...and lord she did that herself with her own words last night to-boot!
Sarah cleaned the clock of Obama and team, the press, and anybody else who messes with her...with a smile on her face...as only a woman can do if I may say so myself.
I am still so happy today...
Job well done all of you last night...especially sticking it to the press!!!!
Fred did great the night before too...
Drill Baby Drill!
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Ouch!
September 4, 2008 - 11:09 ET by RackieMs.Sarah gave the libs a very painful wedgie. HooHaaaa!
Sarah's Universal Appeal
September 4, 2008 - 11:11 ET by NoMoreClintonsNewsbusters, you need to see what the Hillary supporters are saying about Sarah. And these are democrats. Uh, bye-bye Bambi.
http://blog.pumapac....
I followed that thread and
September 4, 2008 - 14:10 ET by Ruths husband BenI followed that thread and read through a bunch of the comments and had a thought about un-intended consequences. McCain picked Gov. Palin for a lot of reasons. However, I don' think he figured that lots of people would tune into the Repubs Convention just to hear her speak. Some of these people's idea of what Republicans and Conservatives are like comes filtered through the liberal media and leftist blogs, etc. They are seeing Republicans for the first time without that filter and they are liking what they are seeing.
“it is not the role of this Court to pronounce the Second Amendment extinct.” - Justice Antonin Scalia
NMC,
September 4, 2008 - 14:13 ET by MassConservThanks for the link. That was some fun reading. :-)
I was hoping that Sarah
September 4, 2008 - 11:13 ET by lehmanI was hoping that Sarah would knock it out of the park. Boy, did she ever. I loved every minute of the speech. My mother's name is also Sarah, so now I have two Sarah's to admire. Looking forward to McCain's speech tonight and he's going to do an excellent job, much to the chagrin of the Dems.
Rush has come around on McCain now like Me!
September 4, 2008 - 11:14 ET by Dee BunkHe just said from now on on the program he would be referred to as McBrilliant
Morning Dee... Yeah I'm
September 4, 2008 - 11:56 ET by bigtimerMorning Dee...
Yeah I'm listening too...I also heard that..it gave me a chuckle or two...
"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh
Best Line of the Night
September 4, 2008 - 11:14 ET by GothampcObama has had time to write two autobiographies but hasn't written one piece of legislation.
Gothampc:
September 4, 2008 - 12:18 ET by j. frank wilsonActually, the line was "memoirs." And the fact is that Sen. Obama got ethics legislation passed in both the Illinois legislature and the US Senate. Of course, Gov. Palin was happy to brag about her ethics reform - just couldn't manage to give credit to someone else who has done the same - on a somewhat larger stage.
Sen. Obama has worked hard to get other, important, bi-partisan legislation passed. Perhaps he didn't "write" the bills - just got them done. It's amazing what one can accomplish if one isn't concerned about getting the credit.
Gov. Palin insisted on referring to Sen. Obama's job between college and law school - community organizer. How long did he do that - 18 months? Why couldn't she refer to him as a "civil rights attorney?"
Actually, I remember
September 4, 2008 - 12:28 ET by BDActually, I remember writing my first autobiography at the age of 26 as a young Captain who had just completed an assignment as a LRSD soldier.
OOOOPpppppssssss!!! I guess i didn't. (But it would have been a better read, trust me.)
That would explain the lack
September 4, 2008 - 13:52 ET by Ruths husband BenThat would explain the lack of publication as the head of the Law Review, and as a College Professor, and the minimum amount of legislation with his name on it (what is it, one piece?). Obamessiah is humble and doesn't want any recognition. All that stuff was probably published anonymously. Yeah, that's the ticket! Thanks for the nuance. The God of Change and Hope is quite proud of his humility, thank you very much. Those of us who don't live in Greek Temples just don't understand. He deserves to be Present....er I mean President.
“it is not the role of this Court to pronounce the Second Amendment extinct.” - Justice Antonin Scalia
Greek Temples?
September 4, 2008 - 18:49 ET by j. frank wilsonThe Republicans use a Temple stageset and no one says a word. The Democrats use one and its suddenly a big deal. Is this the best you got? With all the problems in this world - a stage set? How shallow...
Meanwhile, the information is out there. Sen. Obama has worked to pass a number of important bills - including that one with Sen. Richard Lugar. Guess you just don't care much about that issue, do you?
Meanwhile, what legislation has Sen. McCain passed that (1.) You support? and (2.) He still supports? He talks the talk about earmarks and wasteful DoD budgets - and then votes for 'em. Just like he voted along with President Bush 95% of the time in 2007. But now after 30 years he's going to roll up his sleeves and change things.
The "voted w/ bush 95%" canard
September 4, 2008 - 19:33 ET by mastersofdeceitWhile mostly true (see link) So what? Obama votes with the Dems 97% of the time.
You don't know that most senate votes are along party lines?
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_it_true_john_mccain_voted_with.html
What "canard?"
September 4, 2008 - 20:07 ET by j. frank wilsonIt's a fact.
What difference does it make? Sen. McCain voted with President Bush 95% of the time in 2007 and now he's trying to run as a Washington outsider who's going to drain the swamp and clean up the corruption.
If Sen. McCain is elected we can look forward to four years that will be very much like the previous eight. The least Sen. McCain can do is just admit that. However, instead of running on his record he's running from his record.
Post the links, frank
September 5, 2008 - 00:37 ET by HillbillyKingSince you are so well versed on Barry's legislative record, please post the links where we can see his accomplishments.
Oh forget it I'll do it. Here's McCains voting from the present back to 96
http://www.votesmart...
And here's Barrys from the present back to 05
http://www.votesmart...
Now, you can point out which important bills Barry worked to pass.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
HillbillyKing:
September 5, 2008 - 09:50 ET by j. frank wilsonThere is a difference between voting on and passing legislation. Before folks can vote they need something to vote on.
Here are two links that detail Sen. Obama's accomplishments in Illinois - working on a bi-partisan basis, often when his party didn't support him, getting it done:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/08/AR2007020802262.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/03/AR2008010303303.html
Why did Gov. Palin have to brag on herself getting ethics reform accomplished and then lie about Sen. Obama's record in the same area? Particularly since he not only did it in Illinois but also in the US Senate.
Do you recall during the Presidential debates when George Bush said the number one threat to the US was loose nuclear weapons? What has he done about that since that little talk? Sen. Obama - working the Sen. Lugar - got legislation passed to reduce the worldwide threat of WMD. Apparently that's not an important issue for Gov. Palin, either.
Wow. Great links you posted
September 5, 2008 - 11:46 ET by Roger the ShrubberWow. Great links you posted there, Frankie. That "evidence" hardly reinforces your argument that The Messiah "gets things done".
How brave of The Messiah, how he was "instrumental" on bills that got controversial bills passed by votes like 58-0 and 35-0! With a wave of his hand, even, The Messiah was able to change everybody's mind. A real Bi-Partisan Jedi!
Next time, post actual hard evidence of true reform from The Messiah, not starry-eyed editorials. And, no, voting present does not qualify as bi-partisanship.
Voting "present" either
September 5, 2008 - 12:04 ET by BuffNBoneVoting "present" either means;
When the chips are on the line and the enemy is kicking in your door neither will cuts it for me. O = 0
"Fighters are fun but bombers make policy"
Were you a boxer, frank?
September 6, 2008 - 01:47 ET by HillbillyKingCause you seem pretty good at bobbin and weavin around questions. :-}
Hell, I take the blame for it though, I did say Barry's legislative record. Allow me to be more specific; Barry's Federal Senate record was what I was referring to. That's why I posted the link for it and Sen. McCains.
So, back to my original point;
Now, you can point out which important bills Barry worked to pass.
I'll grant you S. 2566, which became part of HR 6060, which became part of the Department of State Authorities Act of 2006, which was signed into law in Jan. 2007 was a good piece of legislation. Any others?
Oh, and please keep it to Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain, that was the original comparison.
Oh, and now that we know you can provide links, which Thanks BTW, can you make sure to provide links to those other pieces of important legislation Barry worked to pass.
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
No Hilbilly
September 6, 2008 - 01:50 ET by Cool ArrowWhen he said he was "punch drunk", he meant real punch, as in Kool-Aid.
Rocky & Bullwinkle '08
Like this, Cool?
September 6, 2008 - 02:26 ET by HillbillyKinghttp://i57.photobuck...
BTW, LOVE the tag line! Now I got a new write in. Thanks! :-}
If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you.
Don Marquis 1878-1937
Ruths husband Ben:
September 4, 2008 - 18:58 ET by j. frank wilsonWhat lack of publication [sic] in the Harvard Law Review? First of all, editors edit - writers write. Second - here's a newsflash for you, as Gov. Palin would say: Student authors of work published in the Harvard Law Review don't sign it! Why? Because published work represents the efforts of many hands. Gee - we're back to that old don't worry about the credit, aren't we?
Meanwhile, Gov. Palin is claiming credit for stopping The Bridge to Nowhere. What she won't say on national tv is the truth - Congress didn't earmark enough money for it. So she took the funds and spent the money on other projects.
Washington Times reports...
September 5, 2008 - 13:16 ET by...the following...
"Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin has said repeatedly that she told Congress "thanks but no thanks" to
the notorious bridge-to-nowhere project derided nationally as an
example of pork-barrel spending. But some are waiting to see whether
she'll also pull the plug on another big earmark dubbed "Don Young Way"
that could benefit her hometown."
here's the link...
http://www.washingto...
It would be huge for her to say "No" to the earmark. Or else another distraction for the McCain campaign...I hope she does the right thing!
Ubercon
Ubercon:
September 5, 2008 - 18:29 ET by j. frank wilsonNewsflash: There is more to the "Bridge to Nowhere" story.
Gov. Palin didn't turn down the money - she happily took the funds and decided to spend them elsewhere.
Why did she not build that Bridge? Because the US Congress didn't appropriate enough money to pay for the whole darn thing. Poor Alaska would have had to kick in some state dough to get it done.
And to spare us all the angry "show me the link" emails - here's the source. Of course, just because a progressive such as me accepts this source doesn't mean every right wingnut will. That's a chance I'm just gonna have to take.
http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:RL3FJAhN1ksJ:gov.state.ak.us/archive.php?id=623&type=1+"Ketchikan+desires+a+better+way+to+reach+the+airport,+but+the+$398+million+bridge+is+not+the+answer&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us&client=firefox-a
Dead link dude. The money
September 6, 2008 - 02:06 ET by RESTLESS 1Dead link dude.
The money appropriated for the bridge to nowhere was done so under the previous administration. Costs started skyrocketing so Palin pulled the plug. She even stated in her campaign that she would look to other ways to spend the money, since it was ALREADY appropriated and would be lost.
In other words, once the price tag soared higher than the $223 million appropriated for it, it was cheaper to find other ways to make the connection. The money had already been lobbied for and approved before she became governor.
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Restless:
September 6, 2008 - 09:50 ET by j. frank wilsonGov. Palin supported The Bridge To Nowhere and asked the Alaska congressional delegation to obtain funds for it.
Your comment that the money would be lost is quite interesting. You mean the Federal taxpayers would have been able to use the money on another project - perhaps in another state? But since the citizens of Alaska want to pocket the proceeds from the state's windfall profits tax on oil companies and use other people's money for their infrastructure improvements, Gov. Palin spent the money elsewhere.
However, the most interesting part of your comment is the dead link. That was a September 21, 2007, press release from the State of Alaska explaining Gov. Palin's decision. It's now been taken down. Very interesting...that Republican scrub team is sure moving fast, isn't it?
OUT OF THE PARK!
September 4, 2008 - 11:26 ET by pvoce(in best Ann Wilson voice)
OOOooooooohhhhh SARAHCUDA!!!!!
I new it was going to be good
September 4, 2008 - 11:36 ET by buzzbeeWith 3 kids, I rely on my TIVO to watch the speeches uninterrupted. After Sarah's speech, I turned on the TV and flipped around a minute before gettng into the speech. I saw Olberdork and Chrissy Mathews all in a twist.
I knew she knocked it out of the park.
Drill here, Drill Now!
someone tell Hannity how to pronounce PALIN
September 4, 2008 - 11:41 ET by SouthJersey1953I watched FNC last night and Sean (I love myself) Hannity kept miss pronouncing PALIN. He pronounces it with a 'soft A' instead of the 'long A' it should be.
McCain/PALIN '08
PALIN/Jindal '12
Media sucks at journalism *again*
September 4, 2008 - 11:47 ET by sarcasmoIt's pretty bad when they spend ALL their time covering the daughter getting knocked up (who cares?) and I end up having to learn about dairy-welfare problems (I know, "happens everywhere," but it's still dusturbing to the fiscally-responsible) from the Kos-tards doing the sex-obsessed media's job. Media morons, please...Follow the money a little bit.
JMR
The tax & spend drug war looks racist in the real world.
Mainstream Media not picking up on lies
September 4, 2008 - 11:58 ET by BaxterJIt annoys me that the mainstream meda is not analyzing the content of the speech, but just talking about how she appeared and the reaction in the convention center.
http://www.entertone...
Sarah Palin could be played
September 4, 2008 - 12:18 ET by balboaSarah Palin could be played by Tina Fey. That's what I kept thinking watching the speech. Look for a guest appearance on the new season of SNL.
Think she
September 5, 2008 - 13:27 ET by docbis Rosanne only thinner...or Cheney with a beehive....
Think she
September 5, 2008 - 13:27 ET by docbis Rosanne only thinner...or Cheney with a beehive....
Too many times using that phrase.
September 12, 2008 - 01:27 ET by Schnikeys"docb's head in a beehive that has bees in it"
...enjoy all that nectar up close and personal.
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"My morality is your morality."
Jon Stewart's
September 4, 2008 - 12:24 ET by balboaJon Stewart's response:
http://www.comedycen...
Okay, okay...I admit it...
September 4, 2008 - 12:47 ET by PrairieSkyWhen McCain announced Sarah Palin as his VP choice, I had a mixed reaction. Mostly I was thrilled that he had the intestinal fortitude, something the Democrats obviously lacked, to put a woman, not to mention a conservative, on the ticket with him. However, I did have some concerns about whether Gov. Palin was up to the job, and that her selection would be viewed by many as just a stunt to get votes.
Well, her performance last night put all of that to rest. Simply put, Sarah Palin was AMAZING! She owned that stage last night, and she took the fight right to the elitist liberal Dems and the sexist, leftist MSM. I loved it! Her speech was incredibly well written, and she delivered it perfectly. Gov. Palin has a great sense of timing, and she seemed very comfortable in front of what was, I'm sure, the largest audience she has ever appeared before. She was incredibly poised and confident, and didn't seem in the least as the rookie she is when it comes to appearing on the national political stage.
Gov. Palin has given the Republicans just what we've been waiting for in this race...A conservative candidate that excites and motivates the base, and the fact that she is a woman, is the icing on the cake. Sarah Palin is the whole package.
The Dems today are in panic mode, I'm sure. This race has begun anew with Gov. Palin on the ticket. The next two months will be very interesting. It's going to be a sprint to the finish line, so buckle your seatbelts!!!
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
What IS a Community Organizer?
September 4, 2008 - 13:26 ET by BondPlainBondTo save space, since I do have a tendency toward the verbose, my thoughts on Governor Plain's magnificent appearance last night at the RNC are here.
But, I have it, straight from the horse's mouth, the answer to that burning question (please forgive the verbosity, but this I HAD to share):
What IS A Community Organizer?
EUREKA!
Robert Gibbs, Obama's Senior Strategist/Spokesman, just appeared as a guest on FNC's 'The Strategy Room', hosted by Chris Wallace.
In discussing Governor Palin's speech last night, Wallace was, surprisingly, committed to asking question after question of Gibbs regarding the points Governor Palin made about Obama's inexperience in her much-lauded speech of last night.
Wallace rattled them off two at a time and, as Gibbs shifted quite uncomfortably in his chair, his face becoming more and more red, licking his lips nervously, white knuckles glowing in contrast to the black fabric of the armrest as he squeezed tighter and tighter with each passing second of shrieking silence on his part, stammering to find some kind of answer, just... stunned, speechless, and <i>so</i> uncomfortable, until Wallace, for the sake of time, had to move things along and ask another question.
Finally, Wallace got to "THE" question...
What is a "community organizer"?
Are you sitting down? Breathe deeply and regularly. Relax. Remember, Obama believes, with all his heart, THIS is the experience that qualifies him for the White House. This is the experience to which Obama constantly points as the defining and shining moments of his "experience-rich" career. I'll concede it was work of importance. It was. I'll not diminish Obama's community organizer experience.
Okay, here we go...
Robert Gibbs, sitting almost sideways in his seat, as if he was squirming away from what he was going to say, stuttered and stammered and answered (a really good paraphrasing follows, italics for emphasis mine):
And that, ladies and gentleman, is what Obama and his supporters believe qualifies him to be President of the United States of America.
Delusional doesn't even come close to describing the state of the minds that have bought into Obama's (complete lack of) experience story.
Since this is the meat of Obama, who is the Man Behind the Curtain pulling the strings? Is it Soros, or, is that too obvious? Obama has been hiding in plain sight his entire political career, so, the obvious wouldn't be too far off the mark, actually.
I hope you found this interesting. I sure as hell did. In more ways than one. This illustrates the complete willingness, of at least fifty percent of the American public, to "buy" an individual, deliberately molded as a "living trend", who has been hawked by endless infomercials to be "the thing" which will give them that feeling of "satisfaction" they crave when "something new" is purchased from the "liberal store" of politics. Obama is a liberal's "HOT ITEM" within the pages of their "catalog".
re:BPB
September 4, 2008 - 13:46 ET by PrairieSkyYou're exactly right...I saw Gibbs' exchange with Chris Wallace, and it was very telling. I enjoyed enormously watching Gibbs squirm his way through what I guess could be called an explanation. He had that "deer in the headlights" look, and his definition of what a "community organizer" is was really pathetic. The Dems misguided belief that Obama's meager experiences as a "community organizer" qualify him to be president, is laughable.
"...peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever." President Ronald Reagan, January 20, 1981
McCain Back to Making Bad Decisions
September 4, 2008 - 13:48 ET by GothampcWell the Sarah Palin excellent decision could only last so long. Now McCain is back to making stupid decisions.
He will be appearing at Columbia University (with Obama also there) on September 11.
John, why on Sept 11 do you have to go to a liberal university that previously gave legitimacy to an Iranian dictator?
http://www.columbiaspectator.com/node/55370