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Rebels drop from AP poll, ranked 23rd by coaches

9-1 K-State, 10-0 New Mexico vault into top 25

Monday, Dec. 14, 2009 | 10:32 a.m.

Kansas State vs #18 UNLV

The Wildcats' sharp shooting, along with the Rebels' sloppy play led to UNLV suffering its first loss of the season, 95-80, to Kansas State Saturday at the Orleans Arena.

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A 95-80 victory over then-No. 18 UNLV on Saturday at the Orleans Arena vaulted Kansas State into this week's Associated Press Top 25 poll.

As the Wildcats (9-1) entered the rankings, the Rebels (7-1) dropped out. Also, following the weekend's action, K-State now ranks No. 2 in the nation in RPI, while UNLV is at No. 28.

In the "others receiving votes" portion of the poll just below No. 25 Cincinnati, UNLV checks in at third, garnering 96 nods from the media. The Rebels are behind Memphis (129 votes) and Wisconsin (110). The Badgers were the only other team dropped from the Top 25 this week.

As for their perch in the ESPN/USA Today coaches poll, the Rebels fell from No. 17 to No. 23.

UNLV has a chance to play its way back into the AP Top 25 this week, as it plays three games before heading to next week's Diamond Head Classic in Honolulu. The Rebels are at Southern Utah on Tuesday at 6 p.m., home against Weber State on Thursday at 7 p.m. and back at the Thomas & Mack on Saturday against South Carolina Upstate for a 7 p.m. tip.

A 10-1 record at the end of the week might look impressive to voters, as this week's Top 25 already includes nine teams with at least two losses.

Also into the Top 25 rankings this week is New Mexico, which improved to 10-0 on the season with an 84-81 victory over Texas A&M on Saturday in Houston.

BYU was the only other Mountain West team to take in votes, getting 14.

There was a minor shakeup in the Top 5 following Villanova's 75-65 loss to Temple on Sunday afternoon. The Wildcats dropped from No. 3 to No. 8.

Atop the poll again is Kansas, who at 9-0 collected 61 of 65 first place votes. The Jayhawks are followed by Texas, Kentucky, Purdue and Syracuse.

Ryan Greene can be reached at or 702-948-7844.

Discussion: 16 comments so far…

  1. 23 is about right after that loss I don't see how a loss to a tema the AP puts at 17 should knock the prevoius 17th ranked team from the rankings. I have to agree with the espn rankings on this one.

  2. Sorry previously 18th not 17th

  3. Does it bother anyone else that UNLV gets tagged with a "home" loss on this one even though it wasn't at the T&M? And KSU gets credit for an "away" win even though it was on a neutral court? This affects the RPI, which affects the way people vote and it influences the selection commitee in March.

    I know one game doesn't make or ruin an entire season long resume, but I don't like it.

    Also...I understand that the way KSU shot the ball it probably wouldn't matter, but I think the Rebs are much tougher at the Mack!

  4. I agree we are tougher at the mack and it did feel like a neutral game to me. I think that the crowd would have been a factor at the mack whereas they weren't at the orleans arena. But I also think that K-state was going to be ranked whether they beat us on saturday or not. They are a top 25 team. So is UNLV though.

  5. SandG4....I agree with you and wasn't knocking KSU so much as I was venting a bit about how a "home" loss to a team (unranked at the time) looks in the eyes of the voters and selection commitee.

    But there is a lot of season left and the Rebs can certainly overcome this.

  6. yes there should be an asterisk next to the home label on that game an it should say: played at Orleans Arena.

    The team always shoots bad there b/c of depth perception issues and they didn't play the best ball once again Saturday. But it is ok, with 3 convincing victories this week, there will be no reason to not include UNLV in BOTH polls.

  7. I agree rebelsfan11 we will be in both polls at the end of the week for sure.

  8. The Mountain West site has the game marked as a neutral loss. I also think we will be ranked again in both polls before we go to Hawaii.

  9. The way the Orleans worked the ticket sales by selling a huge chunk of them to KSO for resale, they really turned it into a nuetral court. I hope it is treated as such come selection time.

  10. What was up with The Orleans selling a bulk of tickets to k-state fans anyway? At least a seventh of the crowd was the enemy. Good job Stallworth, bleed UNLV red huh?

  11. Hey FastCamron,

    Stallworth doesn't work at The Orleans any longer. You can find him at the South Point. And yes, he does bleed a very bright scarlet for the Rebs.

  12. FastCamron, I'm sure it was part of the agreement with the home-and-home. I'm sure the same percentage of tickets will be available to UNLV fans next year on the return trip to KC's sprint center. The same amount I'm sure were available last year to W. Michigan, but their fans just don't travel. K-State fans travel VERY well. I wouldn't blame anyone in particular.

  13. It would be nice to have someone in charge who was passionate about the Rebs and not just passionate about the paycheck.

  14. Depth perception issues, 11? Really, that's your excuse? Funny that when KSU went off they were shooting against the video screen wall that is supposedly the problem.

  15. Sorry for posting again but I just saw Ryan's comments about the same amount of tickets being available at KSU next season. Ryan, I'm not being funny but who the hell wants to go to Kansas in the middle of winter? And I'd say over half of their fans didn't travel but live right here amongst us, shaking the cobwebs off their purple underwear for the occasion.

  16. I was confused by the entire ticket process. It was supposed to be a "sellout", but there were hundreds of empty seats from what I saw on TV. Paying $15 for a standard defenition game of KSU homer announcers was very irritating. I scrambled for the mute button every time they hit a 3 because that idiot screaming "YEEEESSSSSSSS".

    I think we will rebound and learn from the loss. Maybe now is the time for coach to start limitting shot selection.

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