TrueSceptic posted this in a comment on my old thread, but it really deserves to be on the front page.
Christmas is about peace and tolerance. Few people set a better example of how to contradict those principles than Graeme Bird. In fact, Bird’s achievements in irrational ranting have been recognised by the American blogosphere – he was nominated in the 2008 Golden Winger Awards for Excellence in Wingnuttery, although he didn’t make it into the final vote. But it should reinforce our national pride to know that our country of 21 million can produce moon-howling idiocy that is a match for the best the USA has to offer.
In recognising his achievement, it seems apt to revisit some of Bird’s work. TrueSceptic has added some more content to his collection of quotes from Graeme’s interactions online. With my sincere thanks, here is the Extended Bird:
People who aren’t mindless leftists just admit they are wrong when they have no evidence.
So you are just lying again and you are an idiot.
No in fact David you are just lying filth.
But thats not going to happen because you are lying.
Either you have the evidence or you are a stupid slut.
You should commit Hari Kari right now to make up for your dishonour but the fact is you could not have read the evidence BECAUSE ITS NOT THERE you stupid gang moll whore.
But the fact is you are an alarmist. In which case you know jack shit about science and are in no position to lecture anyone on anything at all.
Bang up job your crowd did. Seeing as Aids (a hard disease to catch) is still with us in spades. You are just in no position to be arrogant. You are in fact a dim bulb.
No it doesn’t you are lying.
No thats just so idiotic. The problem isn’t with McIntyre its with you. The problem isn’t with definitions its with the total lack of evidence.
Can I request that you stop being an idiot?
If thats not to much to ask?
If you were not being an idiot then you could submit a report and I’d tell you if I thought it was to the required standard. But no alarmist line-ball reports exist.
LISTEN YOU MORON. SHOW UP WITH THE EVIDENCE.
Lets have it now.
Its just terrible that we have to be walking around and breathing the same air with people as stupid as this fellow Patrick.
Goodness me. Whose the dope who said this. Its almost not worth scrolling through the confederacy of idiocy just to find out.
We might have to take time out to explain to the leftists just what the term “evidence” means.
You are basically lying here.
How about just coming up with some evidence you ignorant fraudulent phoney jerk?
Look you total moron. Just 1 study will do if indeed it has the evidence. Now which one has the evidence?
Those guys are just clowns.
Thats not going to work in this situation Steve. This is leftist fraud. This is a commie substitute religion. In fact we won’t be quits with this constant lying and idiocy until we get used to mass-sackings.
Sack the offender and everyone around him in 360 degrees fashion. Just save the taxpayer a lot of money.
I wish I had a time machine just so I could go back in time decades and sack John Quiggin.
But we must look to the future. This controversy has separated the honest from the liars, the scientists from the science-worker imposters, and the reasoned analysts in other fields from the merely ridiculous posers.
In economics 76 ridiculous posers signed a petition for Australia to join the Kyoto idiocy. Now when you get that many failed analysts in one line of work it means that the know-nothings are shutting out those who can actually do the job. Its not a matter of these dim bulbs being merely ineffectual. Clearly they are actively harmful.
I should like to set up an INSTITUTE FOR MASS SACKINGS AND TAX EXEMPTIONS that doubles as a political party.
You see communism in all its variants keeps cropping up in Christendom. It has done so for 1000 years. But prior to the democratic era it was always ruthlessly put down before the victims could network their way near the levers of power and start killing people in the millions.
That all ended with the democratic era. So what this means if we don’t want to be ruthlessly exterminating these hateful iterations of this virus in the Western world, we have to find other ways for democracy to prevent an outbreak in this eschatological-utopianism.
MASS-SACKINGS EARLY ON.
We want mass-sackings of taxeaters who we suspect might even be regarded as a risky prospect to fall for these various perversions and extrapolations of the book-of-revelations.
We want the spirit of Andrew Jackson to inhabit our polity. His detractors called it the “spoils system” but really it was all about not letting anyone ever fool himself that he is entitled to his current place on the public teat.
You are an idiot TrueSkeptic. And a tribal gang moll. Now lets have that evidence.
Aren’t you CO-Bedwetters just the cats pajamas when it comes to endless filibusting.
Lets have that evidence Luke. That stupid slut wasn’t in any position to say where I went off the beam so her comments were pointless. Her comments in fact are always totally mindless. Here and on Deltoid. Content-free.
Lets have some content Luke. You ought not be working at the RMIT with your level of incompetence and epistemological idiocy.
No sister. You have to go to your doctor and get a brain transplant and a slut tumour removal.
Now lets have that evidence for the likelihood of catastrophic warming or lets have your blanket retractions and an admission that you’ve been a stupid lying slut.
Evidence….. for the LIKELIHOOD….. of catastrophic warming….
Got it?
Now get moving. And for goodness sakes clean yourself up. You look disgusting.
Don’t sugarcoat these people. They are just lunatics, barely reconstructed communists and anonymous frauds. Look at Nexus. He’s just a complete idiot.
They cannot be so stupid that they don’t know what evidence is. So they are frauds. Thats why they are always showing up anonymously. They must know they ought to be sacked from their day-job.
There was nothing good faith about the wild-goose chases these people try to send the rest of us down. There is nothing good faith about the aspersions that they cast on you specifically and others more generally.
These guys are just Gramscian anti-science pack-animals. Utopian-Eschatologists wrong-footed by the collapse of Soviet Communism.
This global warming racket is the longest evidence filibuster in all history.
Several dozens of papers were suggested to you. Not one of them in good faith.
Well you ought to. Because you are a fraud. Or an idiot. You choose. I’m no mindreader.
I’m impressed that Michael Duffy is on top of the situation. Because when I first found out that you guys had no evidence whatsoever when I’d try to tell people about it they wouldn’t believe me. Like they’d assume that the leftists must have some sort of evidence. But they have nothing at all.
I went to Deltoid to ask the mysterious dwarf-Oracle where the evidence could be found. He referred me to Annan who had one estimate of 3 degrees increase with a doubling of CO2 based on Bayesian statistics… entirely inappropriate.
t wasn’t the first time the mysterious Deltoid Dwarf had sent someone astray.
I don’t know whether Dr Marohasy is just waking up to the enormity of this confederacy of arch-stupidity matched up with the outer limits of human dishonesty. Or perhaps she’s running a giant rope-a-dope. But the fact is that people are being lead astray even when they disagree. They are disagreeing but thinking that there is something in it. That the opposition has some sort of knowledge or argument up their sleeve.
Its hard to convince them that the leftists have nothing at all. Just a big fat zero.
No evidence can be found that way you idiot. One study is good enough if it has evidence. So we’ve proved outright that this is just a leftist fraud. Both sides of the argument have to get used to this. Its not some collegial disagreement of opinion.
Lukes a dishonest moron. As is NT as is Nexus, Karoly and all of that crowd. This is not a situation where some decent people are just having a mental block.
EVIDENCE you idiot Luke! No-one said anything about proof. Show up with some evidence you moron or resign.
So Ender you have just seen three threads where none of you idiots could muster a scrap of evidence and you are still pretending that CO2 is going to lead to climate change when the climate always changes.
Look. Climate rationalists who pretend that they are dealing with anything but liars and morons when they argue with these people are just doing more harm then good. More than ever now we have to identify this racket as a moronic cult. Like those comet-watching cultists who all killed themselves. Something like that.
I mean hows Enders form. Day after day lunatics like this and Luke just constantly talking their anti-science trash-talk.
Three threads, no evidence. It doesn’t phase this lunatic Ender.
Stephanie what is your point? Are you in fact another failed analyst who was too stupid to spot this racket right from the getgo?
You diminish yourself with these comments. Its time for people like you to rewrite history and pretend that you were always somewhat dubious about the panic.
The good Doctor didn’t bring skeptics into being. In here conservative way she is likely not yet ready call these hateful frauds out for who they are in mixed company.
I was calling this a fraud when calling this a fraud wasn’t cool.
No thats a flat out filthy dirty lie.
As for holocaust-denial thats exactly what the alarmist crowd are. They are holocaust deniers. To a man the alarmist crowd are DDT-bureaucratisation holocaust-deniers. This is a certain type of mentality here. A mentality of liars, delusion, leftist-projectors and so forth.
Heretofore such mentalities had only affected the humanities. But it was only a matter of time until this poison reached the physical sciences.
Just constant idiocy from Haughton. If its not one thing or another. The 20th century warming is easily explained by anyone not a complete idiot. You showed no such thing.
Well of course not you jerk because it isn’t happening. You can hardly prove global warming if the globe is cooling. You are the biggest idiot I’ve seen in a long time.
And no you are talking idiocy. Because had extra-CO2 had a substantial warming effect it could easily be shown. That it hasn’t been shown after 50 billions of wasted money means that it is no substantial effect.
You are part of it, its a leftist thing, which is why only prosecutions and mass-sackings can cure it.
You idiot sod.
You’ve tried to slip the hypothesis into the conclusion!!!!
The hypothesis is this:
Will the realities of spectroscopy have a massive warming effect on the planet with increasing CO2?
And your reply to that, because you are a moron is: HERE ARE THE REALITIES OF SPECTROSCOPY. THIS IS EVIDENCE!!
You idiot. You dope. You should be euthanised right now for plumbing the outer limits of stupidity.
You tried to prove the conclusion by the hypothesis itself. Go and commit hari-kari. All it takes is a tie and the womens toilet.
Hey you know what buddy?
YOU ARE A FRAUD. YOU ARE A LIAR.
And on top of that you are caught on this very blog defaming other people.
The answer is for you to shape up and to stop being a fraud and to stop being in liar.
Sort your act out, step outside, do whatever you have to do. But you are a science incompetent. And you ought never have been on the public tit except on traditional welfare to just keep you out of the way.
This movement will wreck everything. Its the other node of evil on top of jihadism and worse because it makes jihadism possible.
This is not some honest misunderstanding. This is a serious movement with serious momentum. We cannot soft-peddle these guys. They will destroy everything.
I’m not toning down anything. If you don’t see me pointing out that people are frauds its only because I know you’ll wipe such comments.
Think of the hateful things they’ve said to people maintaining the scientific ethos.
You just had to slip that lie into the end of the sentence didn’t you.
Its you who are the idiot TrueSkeptic. I’ll put up with a lot but I’m not putting up with some evidence-free-idiot like you showing up here and saying I’m running some sort of a parody.
I got where your commie-lying-ass was coming from given your last comment on Deltoid. Thats the place for you if you want to be an idiot.
And I should like people to contemplate the sort of defamatory statements that people like true-skeptic make at Deltoid before getting too worried about that poopy-pants leftist nutball Haughton getting uptight about this or that.
Now TrueSkeptic. Have you got that evidence? No you haven’t. So your whole act is fraudulent.
This is just so depressing. It feels like the onset to the fall of Rome or something. This must be the most depressing time at least since the 70’s. And the first time that the debasement of almost all traditional human values has infected science with such virulence. We used to expect this crap in the humanities. But not in the hard physical sciences.
I’m calling bullshit on that one. You are claiming there is evidence against it on the grounds that the computer said no. Thats a confession that the Goddard model is wrong.
I’m saying you are lying. What is the evidence AGAINST the snowball earth!!!!
Get yourself some sort of credible experimental methodology.
They can certainly adapt faster than the suggested historica changes. If a species is that fundamentally useless that it cannot change to some tiny move towards neutral over 100’s of generations than I’m afraid it does not deserve to live.
Of course these alarmists are talking about some sort of runaway acidification. Its all book of revelations and fund-raising.
You weren’t helpful in any case. And you were insulting to the blog owner. So I don’t know what you are getting poopy-pants about.
Well yes I do. You are losing the chess game and instead of conceding you find a way to kick the board off the table. Its the leftist staged walkout. A good but all too common thing. You won’t be missed.
You really want me to repeat what you (or someone with you monicker) said at Deltoid, you stupid little bitch?
Your arrogance implies that you have some evidence. Lets have it or just accept that you are a dishonest tramp.
I’m taking a punt and suggesting that you are female. But it doesn’t matter either way. The terms still apply.
“Why would someone’s sex matter?” It wouldn’t. You’d be a mindless whore either way. As the last post attests no evidence has been given in four threads. And you haven’t backtracked at Deltoid have you you stupid slut.
And you aren’t going to retract anything you said. You aren’t coming up with evidence. So obviously you are just an idiot. If you are a scientist you are a fraud.
For petes sakes Joseph you moron. All you’ve come up with is evidence that the CO2 levels are rising. But you are instead claiming that human-caused warming is REAL. Not real and tiny but just REAL. Which is a stupid statement amongst many stupid mantras that zombies like yourself are always repeating.
So you muster evidence for one proposition. But you claim vindication for another. Why would people waste time at a blog of someone who was that goddamned lame?
Can anyone tell me when this plague of stupidity will even so much as let up. Take time for a holiday? A holiday from ubiquitous stupidity. That would at least be a start.
I mean this moron Joseph shows up. Claims he’s got evidence for one thing. And then claims vindication for something entirely different.
Joseph you are a hard leftist aren’t you? You’re a lefty face it. You’re a very stupid person. That is for sure.
Given your complete idiocy and utter mindlessness when it comes to the subject of the global warming science-fraud this is a sober thought indeed.
There you are over at Deltoid, an idiotic bully-boy advocate of the intellectual status quo and one cannot believe that you are going to shake this shabby epistemology in your day job.
You are not a scientist Bernard. You are a science worker. Anyone who has fallen for the global warming racket and hangs out with other nutballs at Deltoid can never be considered to be a scientist. Anyone labouring under the curse of the lone paradigm is no scientist and is only getting in the way.
Why do any of you Deltoid nutballs show up here in the first place? I’m telling you you are not fit for scientific discussion and you only get in the way.
Science is about discussing the relative plausibility of DIFFERENT paradigms. There is no place in science for the rigid and constipated favouring of a single paradigm. Much less a currently favoured one. Nor yet even one whose recent heritage comes out of leftist lunacy.
No its the delusionist believers in the global warming fraud that put a political bent on it.
Clearly you are a mindless leftist goon. Or you wouldn’t buy into something so obviously from. For which you cannot come up with any empirical evidence.
This is an outgrowth of what the communists used to call DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM. You argue it out. But once the central party line is taken you believe it like mindless zombies.
Ergo it doesn’t matter what qualifications you have. You will always be a mindless idiot and totally unsuited for work in science.
The only thing the rest of us can do is cut off your funds to prevent you from getting in the way.
So obviously FRAUDULENT is what I meant to say.
Field workers are not Field Marshals. You lack the conceptual ability or objectivity to comment on matters that bridge many specialties. This can be deduced merely from the fact of you being involved with the campaign against warmer winters for the Laplanders.
Pull your head in Travis. TrueSkeptic is a supporter of blatant science-fraud and was engaging in anonymous defamation on more than one forum.
Just stop lying sod you idiot. Its just unbelievable the constant lying from these morons.
I never said otherwise you lying idiot. In fact that was one of my major points. Here we have another liar trying to mislead third parties over what I said. Threadwrecker.
So in fact you agree with me than? Given as you’ve parroted one of my points but lied and pretended that I said something else.
Moron.
You are such an idiot NT!!! What was your point????
What was your point? Apart from gratuitous displays of idiocy and dishonesty? What was your point?
Damn. What a complete jackass you are! Are you attempting to make donkey of the year a one jack-ass race?
You ought to come in under your own name fella. Hopefully that you incentivize you to lift your game.
Don’t misrepresent what we are saying here Gould. Bring not your science-fraud facetiousness to our presence. If people such as yourself followed NT’s three post holiday from stupidity, on a more permanent basis, people like me wouldn’t have to be nasty and you could confine yourself to honest and productive speculation.
Its really hard not to look down on bozos who have fallen for this unbelievable racket. Its hard not to kick them in the throat for just breathing and being so damn stupid.
In each case this is the same unscience, unscientific lack of humility, and hard-core stupidity in operation.
You couldn’t find a plausible computer model based on alarmist science if your life depended on it you idiot.
Just come good with the evidence fraudster.
What do you mean by MAJOR you dope. Who said it was a major contributer. No-one on this entire thread you utter utter utter moron.
What an idiot you are. What a total tool you are. You don’t have two neurons to rub together.
My god you make me sick just how stupid you are.
But then you did buy into this global warming racket didn’t you. So we are to expect any amount of stupidity and dishonesty from you.
My GOD you are stupid.
And what is your problem with cosmic rays you idiot. To you imagine for one minute that you have blown away THAT very good science.
You are too stupid to comment on blogs sod.
You are an idiot.
You are a dim bulb.
Still knocks me out what a thickhead you are.
You cannot turn you back for 1 hour but that one of these UN-believing blockheads is going to misrepresent every damn thing anyone he disagrees with has ever said.
This is also highlights the problem with seeing everything in terms of steady-state watts per square metre. These people are unbelievably stupid but this static equilibrium model robs them of whatever tiny perspective they might be capable of having.
The UN as our new arbiter of scientific reality. Lord help us. What can we do the to this grip of the reign of mindless zombies?
No-one said that it was a major source Sod you moron. If by that you mean in terms of many-watts per square metre. You are just a liar. Its important however to understand this matter beyond the insane and naive restrictions of watts-per-square metre.
Notice that each and every idiot who has fallen for the global warming fraud appears to be a pathological liar.
Ok you lying filth Sod. Name one post that shows that someone was claiming that averaged out its many watts per square metre?
Many watts per square metre Sod?
See you are just a liar.
Redeem yourself Sod you lying idiot and discuss your views on the thermal heat maximum of 55 million years ago. And for the love of God can you break out of this watts per square metre idiocy.
Merry Christmas to all. Here’s one last present:
That was fine sermon.
I’d like to see the Queen try to top it with her Christmas message.
And perhaps the pope…
Thanks.
I believe that this level of genius should be celebrated much more widely.
I should add that all the quotes are from interactions with other posters, including me, at the Marohasy Bog.
Yesterday I went and checked out the comments thread on some Marohasy blog posts – and Bird is still at it! No wonder the site has been nominated for “Best Online Community” in the 2008 Weblog Awards.
He’s also been pelting the JREF and Dawkins forums with his…err…interesting views on Relativity, Time, the Big Bang, etc. There is truly nothing he feels unqualified to debunk and all objections are lies, sophistry, lies, circular reasoning, lies, the result of leftist indoctrination, and lies.
One of the Great Men of our age!
Even if you’ve seen what he posts elsewhere, you might still be surprised what he posts on his own site. http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/quasarsbusted-malicious-lying-by-taxeating-science-worker/ (bad language warning applies, of course).
“I should add that all the quotes are from interactions with other posters, including me, at the Marohasy Bog. ”
You’ve been pretty tardy with the other sites. There is a lot of bad ideas around. I don’t know how it is that people are so delusional as to just know ( occult knowledge?) these ideas are right. To me thats where the really delusional thinking is. For example Keynesian economics is flat wrong. I feel qualified to comment on it, having an economics degree. And yet so many people feel delusionaly that they know for sure that Keynesian economics is magnificent and its nobel-prize-winning practitioners really understand their stuff. So you are real stooge true-skeptic. But keep up the compiling efforts.
I don’t claim to discover a whole lot of new ideas. That WOULD be delusional. Where I think I have expertise is in discovering bad ideas, sloppy thinking, and recognizing better ideas when they come along.
So on the one hand I say, well this idea is better than this other one, and this idea is clearly wrong. Whereas True-Skeptic thinks she knows there is such a thing as space-time??????
Its true-skeptic and so many others like her who are delusional and not me, a mere judger of paradigms.
How many of you think you know that there was a big bang and that it happened somewhere in the range of 13.5 billion years ago? This is a delusional belief. The paradigm is a very bad one and skates on a thin line of evidence. But you delusionally think you know this nonetheless.
How many think that the government ought to spend up large, and encourage consumers to spend in a recession? This seems right, but its wrong and you ought to not labour under such wrong thinking, since it means a damaging increase in parasitism when people keeping you all alive are already having a hard time of it.
How many of you think that there is more than three dimensions? You might speculate about this. But never has any evidence emerged for such a thing. So its delusional that you think you know this stuff. Or how about the idea that Barry Soetoro isn’t a usurper, and is constitutionally eligible to be President? All known evidence points in the opposite direction…. Yet a lot of people delusionaly think they know otherwise.
I am humble with knowledge. I’M NOT KIDDING. Really I am. I choose the most plausible of the ideas out there, show which ideas are really really crap, and hope someone with better training in various specialties comes along to do a better job. This happened in economics with the astonishing work of George Reisman, and the general superiority of the Austrian school.
An interesting example came up recently with Bill Gaede, largely doing a rewrite on modern physics in an incredibly satisfying way. And all via YouTube.
So we have to start thinking a lot harder about who is delusional and who isn’t here. I make far less claims to knowledge then True-Skeptic. Who believes in the global warming racket, without any evidence at all. And who thinks space warps, stretches, compresses, and can be created like in a computer spreadsheet, pushing all the objects in space outward.
This is all garbage. I don’t buy it. But TrueSkeptic does. Believes it with a burning delusional faith that can never be reached until the crowd of parasites all change their minds in unison.
We have to have a better understanding of just who is delusional and who is not.
G’day Graeme.
You still think I’m female, for no good reason, I see.
Now, any rational person can see that my ‘Anthology’ has nothing to do with science. It is purely about your “debating style” if that’s the right phrase. You are one of a kind, aren’t you? You do realise that? I’ve never anything else quite like it.
If you don’t get voted Wingnut Of The Year next time then there really is something badly wrong with space-time. I intend to do my bit to help you win the title. How about a monthly anthology? Perhaps some quotes from your own blog should be next?