The mammoth chunk of ice, which measures 12 miles long and five miles wide, was spotted floating surprisingly close to the mainland by scientists at the Australian Antarctic Division (ADD).
Known as B17B, it is currently drifting 1,000 miles from Australia's west coast and is moving gradually north with the ocean current and prevailing wind.
Dr Neal Young, a glaciologist working for the ADD, said that if the iceberg eventually reached Australia waters, it would crash into the continental shelf causing a magnitude three to to four tremor.
However, Dr Young said the iceberg was unlikely to hit the Australian mainland. If it continued on its path north, it would eventually break up into hundreds of smaller icebergs, he said.
"As the waters warm, the iceberg will thin out, so it is not going to get to Australia, the further north it goes, the more it break up," he said.
The smaller icebergs created when the larger berg broke up could become shipping hazards if they float closer to shore.
Dr Young said an iceberg the size of B17B had not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century clipper ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia.
"Icebergs do come from time to time and they can be very big, but it can be a long time before we spot one - so it's really a once-in-a-lifetime sighting."
Originally three times its current size, the iceberg broke off Antarctica's Ross Ice Shelf in 2000 along with several others.
B17B has since travelled thousands of miles and a third of the way around Antarctica thanks to ocean currents and winds.
It stayed completely still in one spot for about five years, but is now on the move again.
Dr Young originally spotted the iceberg using satellite images from Nasa and the European Space Agency.
It has an area equating to 87 square miles - roughly double the size of Sydney Harbour.
Several large icebergs have been sighted off Australia and New Zealand in recent weeks, but none rival B17B in size.
Last month a giant iceberg the length of seven football pitches was spotted off Australia's Macquarie Island, about 930 miles southeast of Tasmania.
Dr Young said sightings of large icebergs could become more frequent if sea temperatures rise through global warming.
Icebergs are formed as the ice shelf develops. Snow falls on the ice sheet and forms more ice, which flows to the edges, onto the floating ice shelves.
Eventually, pieces around the edge break off.
If by Rudyard Algoring
If it snows or does not snow
If it’s dry so crops don't grow
If its too wet or if its not
If the crops just start to rot
If its warmer perhaps and a glacier melts
And you can't get your hands on Polar bear pelts
Its all your fault don't you deny it
Its climate change, go on, do buy it
The sky is falling I could spit
Aren’t you bothered just a bit?
I need all your support to trade ethically (Ha Ha) in carbon
To pay for my houses and planes while you live like a Cuban
Not just a man but a visionary, a demi God in a home next the sea
In a new beach front property paid from the sales of my DVD
I bet you wished you had voted for me
Instead of my Cousin, our boy Georgie
As President I would have been a hit
And I’d be far too busy for all this shit
If by Rudyard Algoring
If it snows or does not snow
If it’s dry so crops don't grow
If its too wet or if its not
If the crops just start to rot
If its warmer perhaps and a glacier melts
And you can't get your hands on Polar bear pelts
Its all your fault don't you deny it
Its climate change, go on, do buy it
The sky is falling I could spit
Aren’t you bothered just a bit?
I need all your support to trade ethically (Ha Ha) in carbon
To pay for my houses and planes while you live like a Cuban
Not just a man but a visionary, a demi God in a home next the sea
In a new beach front property paid from the sales of my DVD
I bet you wished you had voted for me
Instead of my Cousin, our boy Georgie
As President I would have been a hit
And I’d be far too busy for all this shit
Scientists change their mind at a drop of a hat. Smoking is a prime example. Back when they where saying smoking was good for you, ham and eggs was good for you. Now they change their tune. Sadly people don't pay attention and remember this. So when a scientist is saying "the sky is falling!" chances are in a few weeks he would change his mind. Global warming is big in government grants and a nice little earner. So obviously they want money thrown at them, the scientists keep up the big bad global warming crap. In fact through GEOLOGICAL evidence (where they can actually use sediment and soil which has built up over the millions of years and can give a bigger picture of what the world was like. Unlike the 150 years since records began crap ). Just like how England was once a desert, it is a fact that we are in the midst of a ice age and that the earth regular goes through hot and cold periods and it would be foolish to believe that the world is going to stay the same as it is now,hundreds of years in the future.Which is what the global warming fanatics think and try to push on everyone without disclosing the full facts for everyone to know.
Tim: How do you have time to post a comment, shouldn't you be out working to pay your carbon tax like a good little citizen? It does not matter if there are deniers, it will all be pushed through. The debate is to simply give you a feel good dellusion. Like your opinion means anything.
Don't worry about people who deny anything, they lose 100% of the time. Maybe you should be asking "why" is that? Whatever mainstream media/government pronounces, it always gets passed. (eventually) Both sides of this argument are foolish. To believe that there is even a debate going on? the outcome was decided long before you had a thought in your brain, for or against. It makes me sad to watch.
quote 1:Dr Young said an iceberg the size of B17B had not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century clipper ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia.
quote 2:Dr Young said sightings of large icebergs could become more frequent if sea temperatures rise through global warming.
i am confused. does this mean global warming is the fault of the victorians, or did he forget he had made the first comment when he made the second (trendy) comment?
Thanks Denis.
Apparently there are alot dumb people and a few smart ones.
Global Warming is real.
I thought darwinism would have got rid of you
Well 4x me! Surely just an Ozzie way of cooling the tube slabs right there on the beach.
Icebergs rarely get north of about 55S. On many voyages in those seas over many years, I only ever saw one. This article is just sensationalist clap trap. Good one Telegraph, not as good as "lenticular clouds are usually created by gravity waves."*, but a good one nevertheless. When was the last time that an iceberg crashed into Australia?
*http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegalleries/6582538/Lenticular-UFO-clouds-and-other-spectacular-cloud-formations.html
The point is not that it has happened before, sure there have been cycles in global temps and ice pack, its the rapidity of it that is disturbing. There is hard data that supports man made global warming theories and scientists are just telling us how it is. Believe in science and data, not paranoia and hair brained naysayers. This is a discussion about reality.
Good place for the Gitmo detainees!
"Big, huge icebergs are not proof of any type of warming. They point to deeper cold. Shrinking ice just melts - DUH! Growing ice gets heavier and heavier until it can't stand under its' own weight. Then it breaks off and floats away. "
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Amazing that Americans win so many Nobel Prizes for science, huh.
If the 'berg is only 1000 miles away, why don't the Aussies sale a fleet of tanker ships out their and grab some fresh water from it. So much better than waiting for their decadal rain storms to fill their reservoirs. Come on guys, make use of the 'berg before it melts.
Have got to the bottom of this. The warmists ran the video backwards. It's actually Australia drifting towards the icebergs, they'll do anything for cold beer.
>>>>A giant iceberg double the size of Sydney Harbour is on a slow but steady collision course with Australia, scientists have said.>>>>
Bonnie Malkin in Sydney who wrote this guff..
Are you scared that the nasty iceberg will hit and leave a big dent in Australia? Or are you just scaremongering in order to further your AGW agenda?
This giant iceberg is going to slam into the Australian coastline, causing massive earthquakes and havoc in coastal cities, and then melt all over the Australian outback. The Australians should think about evacuating...
Up front, I am of the mind set that the earth is in Natural occurring warming cycle and Man's input only contributes a very small fraction of a fraction of a percent.
In this case all I have to say is Get Real People. The distance from Antarctica to Australia is over 4,300 miles, that's 7,000+ k/meters. Add in the fact the berg is just leaving the Antarctica coastal area, toss in warmer ocean currents and then a dozen other basic physics rules and facts.
Some must be using a dollar store Crystal Ball to predict this one.
This is just an story that allows the Greenies to run around yelling the earth is warming and have Kum Bi ya gathering around a tree.
We need to stop the sensationalism, the skewing of data for a meal ticket and have independent and NON-political, Non-Media seeking scientists look honestly into this problem.
Robert at 10.15, your bathtub analogy is bunk. If there is no capacity for the world to get cooler as well as hotter, how do you explain the frequent and massive shifts in past temperatures? The capacity of the world to 'get rid of' greenhouse gases cannot possibly have been overrun by the tiny increases in greenhouse gases which have been recorded.
The fact is that we are still coming out of the last ice age, and the climate will probably continue to warm for several thousand years, before beginning to cool again.
The global warmists are wrong again. To them, everything is a sign of "global warming". In actuality, in this case, bigger icebergs reaching Australia means less breakup of the icebergs as they move north, which means COOLER water air and temperatures.
B17B...not a very original name for the berg.
We should rename it George Town Cayman Islands after all their hedge funds sunk our banks and pension funds.
United Kingdom (with rising water levels) calling for help again....more quantitative easing to freeze our sinking country?
Robert...you are a punch drinking moron, and proof of the dangers of lefty thinking. Please provide the statistical data you used to support your claim that the world's rate of warming has increased. Because if you'd done your proper due diligence, you'd learn that during the last three cycles of ice age/warm period, the ocean levels were 23 feet higher than today, 17 feet higher than today, and 19 feet higher than today...So where is the alarming rise in sea levels that indicate some force beyond what has been proven normal by the Earth's past behavior. Follow the money Robert...not the politicians (including lefty scientists) of the day.
If icebergs were endangering Clipper Ships in the 19th century (long before man made global warming), by using todays logic by Al Gore and his kind, they must have been caused by kangaroos farts. They should have found a way to tax them on their gasses.
Sea level energy content is rising steadily and the data is public and readily available.
Large ice bergs are often counterintuitively caused by warming sea temperatures which erodes large pieces of very old ice causing them to break away and drift.
Large break aways are so big they can last for many many years even in warmer waters before breaking up.
So higher energy in the ocean causes greater stresses causes more and bigger ice bergs that can survive longer adrift even though the temperature is hotter.
Counterintuitive stuff is often the hardest thing to grasp which is why people still deny what they do not understand.
Hey people - please use a little common sense here. Big, huge icebergs are not proof of any type of warming. They point to deeper cold. Shrinking ice just melts - DUH! Growing ice gets heavier and heavier until it can't stand under its' own weight. Then it breaks off and floats away.
Please stop listening to stupid people who just want lots of other people's money.
all this Hype about globle warming and now a bit of ice, we should be more worried about America's attitude to the rest of the world....
Oh my God! How scary that there are so many people out there who remain determined to keep their heads buried in the sand. Yes there may have been giant icebergs before, we all know that the planet has heated up before BUT never at the rate at which it has done so over the last 50-100 years. I don't understand why some people think all this is just some big conspiracy- it just doesn't make any sense. People need to understand the world is like a bath tub, even if we were to maintain the amount of CO2, methane etc that we put into the atmosphere at current levels, the world cannot get rid of it at the same rate- ie the tub continues to fill= the world continues to get hotter. Wake up people before it's too late for your grandchildren who will be fighting each other even in so called civilised countries for water and land
when the world's ass gets hot, it puts a big chunk of ice on it. This is how the big blue marble rolls dumbasses.
Send Al Gore. With all the hot air that gas bag produces, poor little ice berg would be melted in days.
Global warming does not cause the ice to break away. Stress fractures do, either from increased coldness, or increasing ice, or both, then the ice breaks away.
So, if the theme of the article is AUSTRALIA WILL BE DESTROYED BY ICEBERGS (unless of course the iceberg does what the scientists studying it say it will), how come so many of the comments are people ranting about how scientists are part of some vast commie conspiracy?
The existance of icebergs neither proves nor disproves global warming, anthropogenic global warming, ice ages, interglacials, Al Gore's carbon footprint, communist plots, or the risk of giant insects.
A couple of arguments deserve special mention, though:
The giant insects of the Carboniferous lived in an estimated 35% oxygen atmosphere. Our present atmosphere is roughly 21% oxygen and 78% nitrogen; replacing ALL non-N2/O2 gasses with pure oxygen would not be sufficient to bring us to Carboniferous levels. (Or technically plausible, for that matter.).
Several posters argue that iceberg calving is in fact a symptom of cooling, caused by increases in ice pressure, Jar2 at least claims that ice does not break off when it gets warmer, and a few posters argue that it's absurd for Young to claim that there could be more bergs floating loose in the event of global warming. However, in reality, icebergs calve off more frequently in summer than they do in winter. This would seem to indicate that warmer weather does in fact increase the rate at which ice breaks up (unless, of course, I have been misled all my life by warmists and 'summer' is in fact the cold season.). Therefore, a temperature increase would reasonably be expected to lead to a temporary increase in icebergs floating about - as I doubt that bergs look at a calender and go 'sure, it's warm, but it's not yet July. Better stay home'.
"not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century"
Of course it was a lot colder in the 19th century, indeed a degree celcius according to the global warming alarmists, so to try and pin this on global warming is both laughable and pathetic.
It is the final icicle nail in the coffin of global warming.
The Clipper Ships in Australia were in use beginning about 1840 to about 1870, at which time steamships were taking over the task of shipping goods. Why is this tidbit of knowledge important? Because in this article you will see a reference to icebergs being plentiful during this time. Now, the question then is, “what kind of global climate did we have at that time?” This question important because the article, towards the end, attributes the appearance of this gigantic iceberg to… get ready for it …here it comes, yes, of course, man-caused global warming. So, what was the prevailing global temperature situation? Was there some kind of “global warming” occurring? The short answer is NO. We were actually still in the latter throes of the “Little Ice Age” (1450-1900) that followed the “Medieval Warm Period” (900-1300). It was definitely NOT a period of warmness. True, the trend was a bit warmer from a the lower parts of that cold cycle, but it was nowhere close to what we have today. For example in England they had “Frost Fairs” up through the 1800’s and part of the activity was ice skating on the Thames River. Good luck with that today! New York harbor is known to have frozen over in the 1700’s-to-1800’s as well. So much so that folks would routinely walk across to Staten Island from the mainland during the winter. Good luck with that as well. So, that little bit of “toss-out” that the article’s author does is entirely baseless. Enjoy the article! -Norm
Obviously any fool would know that icebergs near Australia mean the opposite of global warming.
If there was warming:-
1) the ice cap would be smaller thus
2) icebergs would have further to travel
3) icebergs would melt quicker.
Remember the ice cap melts and reforms over the sea seasonally every year, this indicates that the ice cap was bigger and thicker, ie that it was *colder* not warmer.
Global warming my aunt!!
If only we could steer them toward the White House.
No evidence to assume the Earth is in jeopardy. I see more evidence that the United States is toast. Thank you so much, socialist fools.
Good grief!!! First the clipper ships in the 19th century, then the Titanic.....WHAT NEXT!!!????
How much more of this "crap" science can we take. Gee the people (Real American men) that that before the Internet ,blackberry,and all other kinds of "modern" technology broke the speed of sound, Thanks Chuck, then landed men on the moon. Are now broken spirits, and reduced to crying girls in the school yard. Thanks to the global warming and fuzzy minded Marxists / progressives. This man says enough is enough. Global warming pound sand , EPA get a bull-dike check and the progressives get the hell out of the way. We Americans got things to do. Real things.
OMG do you think it will it sink Australia?
Last paragraph says:Icebergs are formed as the ice shelf develops. Snow falls on the ice sheet and forms more ice, which flows to the edges, onto the floating ice shelves. If more snow is falling, explain how "global warming" causes that? Sounds like a normal process to me. TWITS
Is the sky falling...
Dr Young said an iceberg the size of B17B had not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century clipper ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia.
I wonder what man did to cause global warming in the 1800's Dr. Young? Yet somehow catastrophe was diverted without the help of Algore or a carbon tax.
"I'm glad I'm in Texas - we'll not go down without a fight!"
Dear Mr. Texas,
Two things are certain, one, you will not go down without a fight, and two, you will go down, make no bones about it.
We have been on alert for wayward icebergs here in Phoenix for some time now. We know they are getting closer and closer.
Let me guess, Al Gore is at the helm steering it. Oh no, save the polar bears that drop from the sky. I can't push it any faster captian, or she'll blow.
Carbon Dioxcide is a pollutant when exhaled by a Socialist, Fascist, Communist or someother Leftist who is using lies and fake data to advance their agenda.
I am convinced that if there is a 1% chance of co2 caused climate change all of the new Gaia religionists should stop breathing. That way we can use them for compost to grow organic food for the rest of us and they can have the momentary knowledge that they have AT LAST done something for humanity - a win/win solution! Algore can motor about the lake here in Nashville with his whack-off buddies and sponsors, then end festivities by tying concrete blocks to their legs and plunking into the water to stop polluting the planet en masse! Just think how clean the planet can be made! Think how much hot air Michael Moore alone can save! The lessening of hot air will save us, the whales, the little cuddly white seals, and the glaciers......all at once!
One B17B could sink a fleet of 19th century clipper ships. But they quit flying them 50 years ago. Any Petro in Sydney Harbor?
So it looks like we haven't had this much Carbon Dioxide since the days of the clipper ships! Good thing THEY fought global warming...
HOW many Billion did Obama want us to give away?
Don't worry, global warming will melt the iceberg before it crashes into Australia. The only question is whether the extra water (after it melts) will submerge half of the Australian coastline.
Andy Davenport said: Readers here seem predominantly to be rather annoyed with global warming theorists.
Why?
Because these theories suggest destroying the amazon, and exhausting limited resources, such as fossil fuels, is..err..questionable? or even...unsound?
It should be first be proven beyond question that making profit in a particular way is ...selfish, and stupid, before we limit self indulgence?
Call me communist tree hugger, but the bad names will not feed your children.
Ok Andy, you're a communist tree hugger. Typically displaying the self indulgence of the easily led left wing, you would sacrifice the well being of your children to the incredibly stupid propaganda of the globalists’ intent on elimination of self sufficiency in the one place it once existed as the norm.
Forgive me for suggesting that in your acceptance of propaganda as truth, you are a disgrace to the notions of logic, reason and common sense. Actually, your forgiveness is totally unnecessary. You definitely represent the enemy.
It's amazing that these people actually think we believe that carbon dioxide is a pollutant.
They might as well call oxygen a pollutant.
We breath oxygen and give off carbon dioxied.
Plants breath carbon dioxide and give off oxygen
You want to decrease the amount of carbonn dioxide plant more trees.
But be careful. If you raise the oxygen content of our atmosphere you might be suprised what could happen.
Remember all of those giant insects from the carboniforous period?
Seems that the oxygen content of the atmosphere was higher.
Some experiments have been done that indicate that if insects are kept for a few generation in an atmosphere with a higher oxygen content they start to get larger. Has to do with the way their respiratory systems work.
Since I am not the originator of this research I am not going to say whether I believe it or not, but it is a lot more logical than most of the global warming crap being spewed.
Of course all of this is academic. They arne't going to reduce the co2 content. Just tax us to death.
"People, this is SERIAL!"-Algore, from "South Park"'s best episode ever....I agree humans should be responsible for their use of resources; but blaming industrialized nations for global warming is bullcorn. Volcano outbursts from the last 40 yrs have spewed much more pollutants into the atmosphere than we have done or will do in the next 150.
Follow the money, y'all. 40 yrs ago it was an "fast approaching ice age", now this BS. This trumped up climate scare is a power grab by the UN and other world-order whackjobs, incl our US pres [small p used intentionally]. I'm glad I'm in Texas - we'll not go down without a fight!
Perhaps a new UN funded science program is in order:
ICE - International Continental Endangerment.
We could pay people to monitor night and day any potential non threating situations like this once.
If the iceberg hits Australia will it sink it?
Every article no matter what the subject has to include the phrase, "global warming". It has become a laughing stock.
Giant iceberg heading for Australia
A giant iceberg double the size of Sydney Harbour is on a slow but steady collision course with Australia, scientists have said.
WHAT A JOKE
@"HYDROGEN DIOXIDE KILLS!!!"
I think you meant Dihydrogen Monoxide or Dihydrogen Oxide. Hydrogen Dioxide would be HO2... not the same.
Judging by the comments from the true believers in Anthropogenic Global Warming, not all idiots are AGW believers, but all AGW believers are idiots.
Because at scientists said it, it must be true, Right!
This has nothing to do with global warming... man made or otherwise. It is so funny and absurd that in the same article that mentions that these natural ice bergs- which naturally form and break away from ice sheets- are caused by global warming, they mention that they haven't seen any like this since the nineteenth century, or that it is a once in a lifetime event. Jeez, it sounds like this happens quite regularly, and at different times in history. These morons writing articles based on false premises should ask for the money back they paid for their education. Instead, how 'bout writing an article about how interesting that these phenomena are, and a little history about them, and leave out the author's political slant.
DON'T LET THIS ICE CHUNK MELT!!
Since the religion of global warming claims the trace gas CO2 as a "pollutant"; shouldn't Hydrogen Dioxide also be declared "pollution"?
After all, even the global warmer frauds at CRU, NASA and the rest of the climatologist con men admit Hydrogen Dioxide is the PRIMARY GLOBAL WARMING GAS!!
Now is the time for all true believers to eliminate Hydrogen Dioxide (H2O = WATER) from our environment!!
Save the world from pollution - eliminate H2O!!!
Woody stated: "Regardless of whether or not Global Warming is a man-made issue, why can't we still want to reduce pollution and emmissions?"
Woody, ALL plants utilize CO2 as a FOOD source! Do you really think plant food (CO2) is pollution?
Since you emit CO2 as a byproduct of your respiration, shouldn't you eliminate your CO2 pollution by ending your breathing? Or do you want to destroy the planet?
Don't be so selfish, Woody! Save the world, Woody - stop breathing NOW!!
STARVE THE SEQUIOA - ELIMINATE CO2!!
Woody stated: "Regardless of whether or not Global Warming is a man-made issue, why can't we still want to reduce pollution and emmissions?"
Woody, ALL plants utilize CO2 as a FOOD source! Do you really think plant food (CO2) is pollution?
Since you emit CO2 as a byproduct of your respiration, shouldn't you eliminate your CO2 pollution by ending your breathing? Or do you want to destroy the planet?
Don't be so selfish, Woody! Save the world, Woody - stop breathing NOW!!
STARVE THE SEQUIOA - ELIMINATE CO2!!
watch ebay for updates, planning an Iceberg party @ $1000. a person to spend a day floating on ice. Drinks and food included.
How many polar bears must die before we bow to the wisdom of Algore and slay ManBearPig?
Why doesn't a country that's desperate for fresh water (like Saudi Arabia) drag one of these monsters to its shores and encase it in a man-made resevoir? Even if it melted in half, it would still be worth the time, effort and expense for the fresh water.
READ Paragraph 7
The scientist PROVES this is MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING!!!
"Dr. Young said an iceberg the size B17B had not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century clipper ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia."
We must get rid of all remaining clipper ships to save the planet!
Good thing for global warming or this thing may sail right into Australia. Global warming means warmer seas, which means this will melt which means no worries mate, which means, why in the hell did you publish this story to begin with. Global warming indeed. Send ALGORE to the iceberg in a helicopter and with all of his hot air, it will surely melt on the spot.
"If all the naysayers of global warming would just substitute and use the term 'climate change' instead maybe it wouldn't seem so funny and it better describes what is happening."
Ah, no. That actually makes it worse.
"Climate Change" is what they switched to when they realized things haven't actually been getting any warmer the past several years. That creates a real problem if you're in the business of working people up into a frenzy.
The problem with the term "Climate Change" is that the climate always, well, changes. That's just what it does.
To me, it also seems a silly attempt create a situation where they can never be proven wrong. When you call it "Climate Change", you get to point to just about any weather-related event (like an iceberg breaking off) and say "SEE!! Climate Change!. We told you so."
I think Al Gore should rent a boat and follow the iceberg... He can claim to have a handle on the Al Qaeda penguins. -Good photo op's sitting with them on the berg... Then He could serve as a beacon for shipping vessels, maybe save a dolphin or two, and be off my tv screen... It's a win-win... Huuuahhh
"What is wrong with you people?
This is an excitable piece about an iceberg. Where did anyone say the iceberg was caused by global warming?"
RTFA before you comment. Here's a hint, it's almost at the end.
Where did this big lump of ice come from then ? I would guess it had to be from the south polar ice cap, if so why is there no sign of it on the daily satelite photos here
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/
Run the last 30 day animation one would assume since it is in the news it would not be older than that, or is it being delivered by refridgerated transport or indeed is it just another climate change scare story
HC
It's ManBearPig and his ManBearPiglets to the rescue!
Oh great ManBearPig! Save us with your Carbon Credits!
"LOL. I just knew while I was reading this that they were going to throw in some nonsense about Global Warming. "
What is wrong with you people?
This is an excitable piece about an iceberg. Where did anyone say the iceberg was caused by global warming?
You are so paranoid, you see a warmist conspiracy wherever you look. Been reading too many Dan Brown novels... or are they above your reading age?
So...as per the article:
1)Icebergs are formed as the ice shelf develops. Snow falls on the ice sheet and forms more ice, which flows to the edges, onto the floating ice shelves.
Now, that means that the reason we have more ice bergs is because we have MORE SNOW!!!
But Wait!!
2) Dr Young said sightings of large icebergs could become more frequent if sea temperatures rise through global warming.
So....because the ocean is "WARMER" there is going to be more ICE in the water???
On what planet does this make sense? PLEASE HELP ME, I MAY BE FREAKING OUT!!!
It seems like we have more satellite pictures of icebergs breaking off than were we did in the 19th century. More hurricanes are being detected by aircraft, satellites and radar than happened in the 19th century. This is surely man-made.
I also noticed I didn't have high blood pressure until I went to the doctor and he used a blood pressure cuff on me. I'm still not sure whether it is the doctor or the cuff that caused my high blood pressure.
If all the naysayers of global warming would just substitute and use the term 'climate change' instead maybe it wouldn't seem so funny and it better describes what is happening.
Wow, they can't produce data from last 50 years but....
"Dr Young said an iceberg the size of B17B had not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century clipper ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia."
This guy needs to call "Ripleys',belive it or not"
Maybe we should limit mankind to one child per female like the Canadians want to do and the Chineese do. Selfish p*icks!
It's the same climate terrorists who turned loose the giant icebergs in the 18th & 19th centuries. Dastardly!
Oh, wait...I forgot...it's really Global Warming / Climate Change caused by man...Antarctica never had trees & grass...Great Britain never had vineyards...
Don't worry!! Obama will fix it!!
It's those fanatical Al Qaeda penguins!!!
Mark in Idaho does have a point...with all of the new record low temps around the nation (including my home state of Washington) its pretty hard to believe in the lie of global warming...
After all the last 3 sentences of the article state: "Icebergs are formed as the ice shelf develops. Snow falls on the ice sheet and forms more ice, which flows to the edges, onto the floating ice shelves. Eventually, pieces around the edge break off."
Paraphrase: The sheer weight of the ice causes the ice berg to break off...
This is the most ridiculously concocted story I've ever read.
'Iceberg headed towards Austrailia"
'Won't get there, it will break up"
How about,,,
'Moon headed towards Earth!"
'Earth headed towards Sun"
They both do this once a year - so why not write an article?
They never should have taught the common man how to read or write. Deadly tools for tiny minds that can't seem to make sense of anything to begin with.
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It probably has more bogus "refugees" from India on it.
LOL. I just knew while I was reading this that they were going to throw in some nonsense about Global Warming. Sure enough, there it was.
This reminds me of the year that Hurricane Katrina hit. The (so-called) Climate Scientists started warning us that Global Warming would cause an ever-increasing number of hurricanes. Actually, the exact opposite has happened. Oops. Guess they decided to move onto killer icebergs instead.
Pretty much any naturally occurring geological phenomenon is being blamed on AGW at this point. ...because the science is deeply flawed and they're desperately trying to salvage some credibility. Ultimately, they'll be exposed for the charlatans they are.
All of this would be laughable if it weren't for the fact that they're going to use this scam to bilk gazillions of dollars out of taxpayers around the world. We are fools if we let them get away with it.
Fancy that.... an iceberg falling off during spring/summer. What are the chances of that!!!
I seem to recall a plan in the past to harvest fresh water from icebergs. The problems of doing so included use of resources to get the iceberg to a location where the ice (water) could be harvested, and that the iceberg would probably melt by the time it got to the harvest location. Seems like these problems do not exist in this ideal opportunity here.
If all of the rich countries of the world send money to all of the poor countries it will stop that iceberg dead in its tracks!
WOW!...how Titanic!..would be awesome if they are moving towards each other, big collision, debris in the air, shock waves felt around the globe....huh!..not possible!!!..sigh
Antarctica used to be a tropical paradise- Find out about it...
Save us Al Gore!! Save Us!!!
...but global warming is a farce. All of us intelligent people know it.
About 45 years ago, Australia was considering towing a large Iceberg to Australia to supply fresh water to the outback. Maybe this is just what they need.
thats how they spend are tax money take your prozac injoye the ried is there a way we can move white house on that full house
Here we go again! WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE"! At least all of the Aussies are. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
Not to worry the goverment to here you help you.
Rising water temperature may not be the only source of mobile ice bergs.
Couldn't relatively super mobile ice bergs be moving due to pole shifting or some other solar phenomenon ........??
Quick everyone that has trees nearby, get some electric cords and rig some lights to shine on the trees at night. If we all do this the trees will use the excess CO2 and we will be saved!!
I can't spell either, I went to public school!!!
Quick everyone that has trees nearby, get some electic cords and rig some lights to shine on the trees at night. If we all do this the trees will use the excess CO2 and we will be saved!!
I don't mind if you all want to clean the whole world but just don't do it using my money or bankrupting my country and trying to make me live like a stone age man. If you really want to start cleaning the earth then just stop expelling carbon moxide.(hold your breath!)
Going Cheney on Climate
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
In 2006, Ron Suskind published “The One Percent Doctrine,” a book about the U.S. war on terrorists after 9/11. The title was drawn from an assessment by then-Vice President Dick Cheney, who, in the face of concerns that a Pakistani scientist was offering nuclear-weapons expertise to Al Qaeda, reportedly declared: “If there’s a 1% chance that Pakistani scientists are helping Al Qaeda build or develop a nuclear weapon, we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response.” Cheney contended that the U.S. had to confront a very new type of threat: a “low-probability, high-impact event.”
Soon after Suskind’s book came out, the legal scholar Cass Sunstein, who then was at the University of Chicago, pointed out that Mr. Cheney seemed to be endorsing the same “precautionary principle” that also animated environmentalists. Sunstein wrote in his blog: “According to the Precautionary Principle, it is appropriate to respond aggressively to low-probability, high-impact events — such as climate change. Indeed, another vice president — Al Gore — can be understood to be arguing for a precautionary principle for climate change (though he believes that the chance of disaster is well over 1 percent).”
Of course, Mr. Cheney would never accept that analogy. Indeed, many of the same people who defend Mr. Cheney’s One Percent Doctrine on nukes tell us not to worry at all about catastrophic global warming, where the odds are, in fact, a lot higher than 1 percent, if we stick to business as usual. That is unfortunate, because Cheney’s instinct is precisely the right framework with which to think about the climate issue — and this whole “climategate” controversy as well.
“Climategate” was triggered on Nov. 17 when an unidentified person hacked into the e-mails and data files of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit, one of the leading climate science centers in the world — and then posted them on the Internet. In a few instances, they revealed some leading climatologists seemingly massaging data to show more global warming and excluding contradictory research.
Frankly, I found it very disappointing to read a leading climate scientist writing that he used a “trick” to “hide” a putative decline in temperatures or was keeping contradictory research from getting a proper hearing. Yes, the climate-denier community, funded by big oil, has published all sorts of bogus science for years — and the world never made a fuss. That, though, is no excuse for serious climatologists not adhering to the highest scientific standards at all times.
That said, be serious: The evidence that our planet, since the Industrial Revolution, has been on a broad warming trend outside the normal variation patterns — with periodic micro-cooling phases — has been documented by a variety of independent research centers.
As this paper just reported: “Despite recent fluctuations in global temperature year to year, which fueled claims of global cooling, a sustained global warming trend shows no signs of ending, according to new analysis by the World Meteorological Organization made public on Tuesday. The decade of the 2000s is very likely the warmest decade in the modern record.”
This is not complicated. We know that our planet is enveloped in a blanket of greenhouse gases that keep the Earth at a comfortable temperature. As we pump more carbon-dioxide and other greenhouse gases into that blanket from cars, buildings, agriculture, forests and industry, more heat gets trapped.
What we don’t know, because the climate system is so complex, is what other factors might over time compensate for that man-driven warming, or how rapidly temperatures might rise, melt more ice and raise sea levels. It’s all a game of odds. We’ve never been here before. We just know two things: one, the CO2 we put into the atmosphere stays there for many years, so it is “irreversible” in real-time (barring some feat of geo-engineering); and two, that CO2 buildup has the potential to unleash “catastrophic” warming.
When I see a problem that has even a 1 percent probability of occurring and is “irreversible” and potentially “catastrophic,” I buy insurance. That is what taking climate change seriously is all about.
If we prepare for climate change by building a clean-power economy, but climate change turns out to be a hoax, what would be the result? Well, during a transition period, we would have higher energy prices. But gradually we would be driving battery-powered electric cars and powering more and more of our homes and factories with wind, solar, nuclear and second-generation biofuels. We would be much less dependent on oil dictators who have drawn a bull’s-eye on our backs; our trade deficit would improve; the dollar would strengthen; and the air we breathe would be cleaner. In short, as a country, we would be stronger, more innovative and more energy independent.
But if we don’t prepare, and climate change turns out to be real, life on this planet could become a living hell. And that’s why I’m for doing the Cheney-thing on climate — preparing for 1 percent.
Did any of these warmologists take and pass a high school science class? Desperate people.
This is the very same iceberg Time magazine saw in 1975, concluding that a new ice age was imminent.
No, you're the morons. He said IF sea temperatures rise. I guess even the possibility is outrageous, eh?
And Geoff, before you attempt to master climate science and physics, how about learning to spell? From all the evidence here, you are the idiot.
Sounds wonderful to me. Australia is experiencing a drought, so mine the iceberg (ice turns to water and it is about summer down there).
Regardless of whether or not Global Warming is a man-made issue, why can't we still want to reduce pollution and emmissions? I mean, why not make it a healthier world, just for the sake of doing so?
Oh, that's right. I forgot. That's not "taking the easy way out" like 99% of this world prefers to do. Only worry about yourself and continuing your own world. Don't work to benefit BOTH yourself AND others.
Should be the new American motto. Not "America: Land of the Free, Home of the Brave", but "America: Land of the Free, We Take The Easy Way, No Matter What."
We should stick Al Gore on the berg. If it ever makes it to Australia, he can mouth off as much as he wants about global warming. If not, oh well!
The moment this Dr. Young mentioned global warming is when he gave himself away as a complete idiot and a moron.
Oh, for crying our loud!
I just knew that the Large Hadron Collider would set something in motion. Start taking steps closer to unlocking secrets of the universe and sadly, they might find out what ENDS IT. !!!!!
I don't know about you all, but where I come from, we would just slap a little crazy glue on that bad boy and stick it right back where it belongs... no fuss, no muss!
Well, first of all, global warming is absolute bullshit. The earth has been alive for billions of years before humans ever started producing any greenhouse gasses. There's more methane coming out of cow shit than there is coming out of factories.
So ram it.
I've enjoyed the Australians' comments, very smart and pointed. Always wanted to go to Australia and meet an Aussie girl. I'm emabarassed by Al Gore, he's such an idiotic, truth-denying twerp. Sorry, World.
My addition to the posting is, of all the AGW concerns about the glaciers melting due to the rising heat in the oceans and flooding New Orleans and my lovely State of Florida, among other lands, what do they think is going to happen when the heated air evaporates the ocean and lake surface waters, causing rain on some land and SNOW, (that refreezezes on the polar caps and makes glaciers that start the process all over again), that lowers the ocean and lake levels back again. Won't that stop the flooding? Increased heat, more evaporation, more rain (& snow)? Works in the rain forests.
Why wouldn't that keep the "status quo?"
Thanks, Jim
If this is Algore's slab of ice that is as big as TX he has never been to TX. If the ice floats to warmer waters it should cool the ocean in the area where is, much like ice in a glass of Pepsi. That would be as a good thing right????
Rob, (in the great white north), said : "The fact is that we are polluting the crap out of our planet and any attempts to reverse this trend should be supported and not dismissed as bad science."
But AGW IS 'bad science' Rob and you are WRONG about real pollution like real poisons in the air and water. It is the poor and commie countries doing most of the real polluting, (the ones running the UN BTW), because they either cannot afford the cost of ecology or they simply do not care. Do some research, the richest FREE countries are the ones that both care about the environment and can afford to protect it. In stark contrast, the Chicoms don't give a rat's behind about pollution and, even if there was any merit to AGW theory, they certainly are NOT going to do anything to hurt their economy to stop it anymore than they will to curb real pollution. They are building one new non-scrubbed coal fired power plant each WEEK - did you not watch last year's Olympics and see what Peking's air looks like? The Chicoms are cheering on Al Gore, (and they funneled money to him in the 2000 election), every step we take to curb innocent plant food in the air, (stuff that actually does make our planet greener!), - is a step to further empower the Chinese and other commies....and embolden them to further ignore human rights.
The best way to protect our planet's environment, to preserve clean air and water for everyone as I want is to - SPREAD FREEDOM AROUND THE WORLD INSTEAD OF COMMIE BACKED JUNKSCIENCE. (And yes that includes dissolving the UN).
I just turned up the heater, went outside and started the car, the truck, the lawnmower, the chain saw, the Weed Whacker, my boat and my race car. If the rest of you can all work with me and do the same, perhaps we can emit enough Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere to raise the Earths temperature back to what it used to be and you Ozzies will no longer have youre lives and lifestyles threatened by Global Warming advocating "scientists" and "Killer Icebergs From Hell"..........
"The mammoth chunk of ice, which measures 12 miles long and five miles wide," something amiss here. The picture shows a scale of
50 Kilometers wide which is some
30 miles, if the scale is right the iceberg would be some 50 miles
high.
What a blessing for draught stricken Australia!
Just lasso the bloody thing and put a bag under it, bring it to shore and pump the water out!
This way everybody wins.
This is an actual method proposed a long time ago to obtain water.
Now, get to work Aussies!
And while you are at it stop Australia from moving North as it floats on the Earth mantle and it will not get any hotter in Sidney for the next billion years.
Hell, Australia is suffering water shortages. Push the sucker closer to Australia, start chopping off chunks and let them melt into rivers and ponds.
Oh My ! Disaster on the horizon. Who is DRIVING that iceberg. Its as evil as those pesky gass-guzzling SUV's that roam the planet killing people on their own ! Head for the hills... What a thoroughly stupid news article.
I was waiting for the line about 'global warming'.
This is a real non-story, well done Telegraph, for getting something out there that has a scant reference to global warming.
Hmmm... "surprisingly close" is one thousand miles . ... not a teensy bit of sensationalism here...?
And tell us more about the 19th century clippers.. I suppose there were icebergs then because the sea was cold as distinct from now when there are icebergs because the sea is warm... Hmmm. just lazy journalism, accepting any buff that vested interests provide.
Here we go again-global warming. Folks this is just natural order of the Earth's cycles. It does not mean anything for global warming. Those that believe otherwise have the audacity to think that in the universe we as people can control things only nature and God can really control.
Surely if sea temperatures rise, then the icebergs will melt quicker? Another utter nonsense 'link' between AGW and our impending 'demise' from this planet. These 'scientists' should concentrate on science, and not science fiction
That's a coincidence, I am just about to head for Australia too.
In the sense that I am about to go down into my kitchen for a nice cup of coffee and my kitchen just happens to be on the same line as Australia if I were to travel about 9,000 miles further on.
What a non-story!
I'm glad Dr Young is working for the ADD. It keeps him away from productive activity.
How can the possible 1/2C rise in air temp over 120 years lead to enough warming of the massive oceans to melt ice?? It can't.
For the Iceberg to have lasted so long tells you that the water temp is very cold, 1 degree is NOT going to melt anything. It calved due to excessive growth on on-land ice.
regards.
Quick everyone, exhale as hard as you can. The CO2 generated will warm the planet sufficiently to destroy the iceberg in seconds. On the count of three .....
Article headline: "Giant iceberg heading for Australia"
Article sub-headline: "A giant iceberg double the size of Sydney Harbour is on a slow but steady collision course with Australia."
Actual quote from actual scientist: "Iceberg will NOT hit Australia".
Sensationalizing much? Who's being the "alarmist" again?
My son in law worked for a seven years as a fisheries protection officer on long liners in the South Georgia tooth fish fishery. I've seen numerous photographs and more than half an hour of video of icebergs that were bigger than that one. South Georgia, bye the way, is further away from the South Pole than Scotland is from the North Pole.
Yet another example of ignorant and mindless hysteria.
Would Dr. Young comment on the open volcano on the ocean floor beneath Antarctica and advise us what the effect of the volcano is on raising the sea temperature and melting Antarctic ice?
Aussie naval exercise perhaps? Fire off them big guns? :P.
Interesting story, spoilt by quoting some "scientific" nonentity with an unsupported "opinion". Poor journalism, making a spurious political point over a story. Goes on all the time..........
Al Gore is a criminal and should be placed on trial for fraud. There is no such thing as global warming and it a fraud designed to lower the standard of living the USA. The "manpig" belongs in a cell.
So it is on a collision course, but, in fact, it is not going to collide ? Just run that past me again will you ?
Jeremiah Methuselah
Whats Al Gore gotta do with Melting Iceberg.. people O brit people , write something relevant ... anyways one ting for sure is that aussie people are racist breed of convicts .. who feel proud of being slaves of mother england .. they have forgotten their past lolzzz... slaves huh.. i somehow feel if this iceberg hits austraalia it should hit the eastern coast .. which a bag loads of criminal racist community..
No worries, global warming will have melted it long before it reaches our shore.
When I lived in Alaska and went occasionally sailing around glacier-fed waters, we harvested bits of glacial ice for our whisky. MMmm, good!
everybody run the north polar cap is expanding, and the southern polar cap is falling apart. it is so crazy that every year it keeps on doing this, and then the rolls will reverse in a couple of months
Al Gore is a Cult Leader.
http://www.ALGOREISACULTLEADER.COM
Don't you love the hype of the chicken little press.
Must of been a massive AGW party to order that much ice. Greedy b'tards.
Well, golly gee. I guess the giant ice bergs on record from the 19th century are another proof that AGW is "fact." After all, it must be clear that all the scientists are in agreement, massive melts occur both before and during and in all likelihood after warming has completed. Either that, or they were planted by "deniers."
Has anyone noticed that there is stuff all attention being paid to recorded human history by the AGW crowd? They seem to focussing of "choice trees" and other "key items" that support their theories. Clearly they have forgotten that a big part of science is not trying to find support for a theory, but to pick holes in it.
Lemons into lemonade.
Isn't Australia facing a water shortage? http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2009/s2748064.htm
If the iceberg were to remain intact, wouldn't it be possible to park it off Australia and siphon off the is freshwater?
Before you scoff, read the report below explaining why icebergs are composed of fresh water.
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/env99/env148.htm
Are these scientists for real? More snow in Antarctica causes more ice which moves to the coast falls off as icebergs and moves north. Which apparently were commonly seen by clipper ships in the 1800s'. But today's icebergs are caused by global warming???
Now they could potentially cause earthquakes, but really won't?
Madness. Smack a warmie in the head and wake them up.
Lemons into lemonade.
Isn't Australia facing a water shortage? http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2009/s2748064.htm
If the iceberg were to remain intact, wouldn't it be possible to park it off Australia and siphon off the is freshwater?
Before you scoff, read the report below explaining why icebergs are composed of fresh water.
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/env99/env148.htm
rather than watch the icebergs breaking up could,nt we create a boom to stop them breaking away ,
failing that i think we should get the navy or raf to blow them up .
Lets try and keep them together ,
another pos geek is resposnible for a headline that screams panic and a story that well lets just say they should all be put to sleep..........
That should cool down the barbies a bit! Look on the bright side the Aussies won't be short of a bit of ice, for their drinks whilst they subathe in the south Coast beaches!
How do we know happened many years ago. The the advent of the Airplane and now satellites, we have much more opportunity to see every Iceberg. I bet 80 years ago only a small percentage was observed.
Maybe Australia can use it to irrigate some of its dry regions, or maybe they can make a theme park or ski resort out of it and we can all vacation there if we have any money left
Strap Fat Albert Gore to this thing with a satellite cell phone. Don't rescue him until he calls and admits to the greatest fraud in world history, then give him a nice warm cell right next to Bernie Madoff.
Wow! And I never got to visit Australia. Maybe I can convince my wife that we should come down and look around before you guys get rammed by a 'berg and sunk. Meanwhile, I'll just hope that the storm that left snow drifts up to 15 feet in the midwest misses us here on the east coast. Damn glo-bull warming!
Oh, and Chicken Little called. He said to tell you the sky is falling.
Merry Christmas to all, and to all, a good night!
Finally something that can't be blamed on George Bush. It broke off in 2000. It even held position for five years during the Bush Admin. Maybe it was a terrorist iceberg, perhaps it is where bin Laden is hiding and now that Obama is in control they feel more at ease to roam again.
Hello!
It's summer in the southern hemisphere. Check your facts on anartic ice cap, getting thicker not thinning.
Thank God most Aussies get it, the press not bloody likely but same in the rest of the world...what rubbish!
Couldn't we torpedo it, drop a couple of the big 'H's'. Where's Captain Kirk and his Phasor...........
Neal Young wasn't he a singer in the 60's and 70's? Now he's a Iceberg Dr....
Sounds like a job for Bruce Willis, and Ben Afflack. Instead of a space shuttle they could use an Aircraft Carrier.
Can Al Gore tax an iceberg in Australian waters?
How do you become a glaciologist??? Do they offer a class at the Community Collage??
I am glad they have a craiglist picture for the icebergs they are "howing" I wont flag this post.
"Ice berg heading for Australia", sounds like opportunity!
"Yep, there are actually folks who will pay good money for clean pure arctic ice". There is actually an industry based upon harvesting glacial ice and now it's heading for some upstart Aussie entrepreneur.
To hell with the global warming crack heads, go chip some ice and make some cash when it gets there!
Gullible authors, unable to think critically. We know that Antarctic ice (90% of the world's ice) is increasing. With our colder winters last ten years, ice grows and pushes outward, causing large pieces to fall off. If it's 12 miles by 5 miles, the area would be about 12 x 5, in other words, 60 square miles, not 78. It can't both (a) be on a collision course with Australia and (b) be set to completely miss Australia if it "keeps going" as it is. No wonder the anti-scientific Global Warming hoax finds so many willing worshippers, if even journalists have critical thinking powers which are this seriously impaired.
This is all George W Bush's fault
I believed the story until the global warming nonsense was brought up!
This is clearly the fault of the previous administration.
Bush lied...ice melted.
The only thing that story tells me is that conditions in the 19th century days of sailing ships must have been very similar to conditions today in the southern hemisphere. Must have been due to all those 4X4 driving Aborigines tearing round the Australian bush all day. Unless it was caused by methane from all the kangaroos.
Then again, it could be just a simple natural change in the climate which happens from time to time but that kind of thought is disgraceful heresy to the New Religionists of Global Warming who insist that only by mankind repenting his sins and following the path of their “Truth” can the World be saved.
based on the facts stated in the article:
1- Many of these type of Icebergs were in existence years ago; before 'global warming'.........
"had not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century clipper ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia. "
Th writer then states that global warming will cause more of them to be seen...
Does anyone else see this BLATANT CONTRADICTION?
Goggle Earth close-ups show very clearly a manbearpig colony....c'mon guys this is serial!
This is Roland Emmerich's next movie, "Iceberg." I've seen early clips of the 'berg plowing through Sydney and bisecting the opera house.
Why should we drop Al Gore on a perfectly good iceberg? Seems to me we should be trying to figure out how to strap his bloated @ss under the thing in order to give him a choice. Show your commitment to helping the environment by carrying the berg up on shore, OR DROWN.
Does this iceberg qualify as an illegal alien? Does it have a Visa to visit Australia?
Can this "berg" be adapted for use as a homeland by Polar Bears?
Lets see now. It has been popular for liberals to claim that everything that is bad is obviously President George Bush's fault. Since they are also claiming that we are observing global warming, what will happen to the "George Bush is the fault" claim when the reasons for global warming AKA climate change is proven to have been just a lot of liberal hot air. Will all the other things blamed on George Bush suddenly become untruths also? Algore fits into the discussion also in that most global warming is caused by his ongoing hot air production. All of this hot air discussion is the fault of the global warming liberal loud mouths constant telling of unprovable opinions and plain old fashoned lies.
Lets see now. It has been popular for liberals to claim that everything that is bad is obviously President George Bush's fault. Since they are also claiming that we are observing global warming, what will happen to the "George Bush is the fault" claim when the reasons for global warming AKA climate change is proven to have been just a lot of liberal hot air. Will all the other things blamed on George Bush suddenly become untruths also? Algore fits into the discussion also in that most global warming is caused by his ongoing hot air production. All of this hot air discussion is the fault of the global warming liberal loud mouths constant telling of unprovable opinions and plain old fashoned lies.
Headline: "Today, a massive iceberg collided with the coast of Australia. The monstrous berg, estimated at 4 million tons in weight, and moving at approximately 3 meters per minute smashed into the Australian coastline, gouging a huge trench in the sand. Everyone and anyone with a litre of Johnny Walker stormed the deadly berg and killed it with hundreds of individual ice picks. Stay tuned.
Headline: "Today, a massive iceberg collided with the coast of Australia. The monstrous berg, estimated at 4 million tons in weight, and moving at approximately 3 meters per minute smashed into the Australian coastline, gouging a huge trench in the sand. Everyone and anyone with a litre of Johnny Walker stormed the deadly berg and killed it with hundreds of individual ice picks. Stay tuned.
nobody would deny that global warming happens as does global cooling,they are both just normal events in the natural life of planet earth.proven scientific facts show this to be true.it is the claim that global warming is man made that is in dispute and quite rightly so in my and 46% of the british publics opinion,this is a flawed and cobbled together claim rushed onto the agenda solely to increase taxes,and it will be shown to be such in due course.i dont think anybody should worry about the ozzies fretting over a little ice cube like this they are as tough as old boots(and thats just the sheila's)i know ive played rugby against them.another incorrect headline designed simply to keep the easily scared scared.THINK FOR YOURSELVES.
DR Neal Young -- "it would crash into the continental shelf causing a magnitude three to to four tremor."
what an inane statement ! the thing would have to be traveling at near the speed of sound to cause a mag four tremor - if then. if that sort of energy could actually shake Oz - then buildings inland would feel the waves hitting the shore .... not sure why that tidbit stood out from the rest of the nonsense in this story
What caused icebergs to travel in the 19th century? It wasn't my SUV just like today.
Perhaps some of those smaller bergs could be harvested by enterprising Australian cities to help supplement potable water supplies. Oz is currently facing some severe drought problems.
With the bergs possibly drifting so close, the costs of harvesting go way down.
I could even see a bottling company outfitting and setting up a bottling plant/ship that can be moved from berg to berg.
Imagine being able to market "Iceberg Pure" water.
Just couldn't help yourself from bringing up global warming could you. I guess we can just blame those 19th century icebergs on penquins gone wild with ice picks. What a fraud!
I think I could have taken enough drugs for this story to make sense until that global warming trash was thrown in.
I find it amazing that there are so many koolaid drinkers on our planet.
Our globe is cooling for the time being and it will warm again someday. There is not a damn thing that we can do to prevent or effect either. People! Please!
All i can think is that it must have filled a cruise plan. I mean, here it is, still not out to the open sea and the alarm is out about iminent coasal crash, unless, or except.... and baring....but they know where? can I have the break no, come on, gimme a break.
Australia is in the middle of a drought, Sounds like a god-send to me.
Wait, I thought that Icebergs were common in the oceans close to the antartic, whats the big deal?
I would like to teach your Ms Malkin and Mr Young how to present information for readers.
1 get the facts right and make sure the words and the story fit the actuality.
end
Now its 5 miles wide by 12 miles long and is 87 square miles ! wow
Its on a steady collision course with Oz but its going to miss if it keeps going, wow , new class of geometry found !
and its only the Aussie Antarctic Div. that could shorten the name to ADD !
Please, as an exercise in journalism, re write said article but using the other side of all the ifs and coulds and you will end up with a global cooling nightmare with no change to the base `facts`
Polar satelites and we loose lots of icebergs which happen to `pop up` once in a while !
Ice bergs just as big over 100 years ago, wow, now thats change !
time to get some serious scientists on board.
Don't you mean AAD, not ADD?
There is a giant load of poop on a crash course to my cesspool as well should we be alarmed?
Don't you mean AAD, not ADD?
The only thing that is causing global warming is the hot air coming out of Al Gores mouth. I think he could inflate an onion sack.
Contrarian garbage is what AGW is. More snowfall and cold cause thicker and faster ice flows, and hence bigger and more icebergs.
I heard that it was being pushed by angry polar bears mad that we are destroying the planet, but I might be wrong.
ht/GB (although I don't think the South Pole has polar bears).
But on a positive note, isn't Australia like really dry & hot, so this ice could chill a lot of beer. That would be a good thing.
Cool!
So, it's KINDA heading for Australia...maybe, maybe not. whatever
Of course there's anthropogenic global warming-- of course, the dog ate all my data, but trust me, it was there.
"Then when the ice from the poles have all melted from factories in countries that pollute using slave labor, industry will call on these deniers to deny there ever was ice at the poles to start with."
I guess Dennis still doesn't get it. Where is your proof? The data that supposedly indicates this has been destroyed so that no one else can analyze it. That isn't proof.
Also, if you had any concept of what science is really all about, you should no that you cna't "prove" a theory.
Do some studying on your own instead of followinng sheeplike.
You will realize why I feel sorry for you. You are clueless.
Lets see... Global warming caused the ice berg to break off. Global warming allowed it to go farther North than most.
I would think that if things were warming up this berg would melt before it got so far North...
What a load of methane spewing bull sh!T... Woops, more global warming!!!
Iceberg breaks loose from ice shelf in Antarctica!!!!!! Gorebal warming is to blame!
Yeah, right! Talk to those people in Chicago today about global warming while dig out of 15 INCHES OF SNOW!
"Even after it had been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, people STILL believed taht not only the Earth was flat, but also that the stars/planets/sun and moon revolved around the Earth.
Science can only do so much. The anti-science flat-Earthers with their heads in the sand cannot be helped at this point. they hate science because they understand so little. No matter tho. Scince, Technology and Progress ALL move forward with or without the deniers."
I can't believe we're being lectured by a guy who can't complete his own tirade without spelling errors, punctuation, and capitalization mistakes. You would think that with Al Gore's amazing internet, he could fix those errors before he lectured us on ours.
Don't bother me with trivial BS like this. It's the economy stupid.
You're are all racist, homophobic, climate change hating, and baby seal killers!
If Al Gore wants you to spend trillions of dollars and receive nothing in return, well God Bless him.
And he looks so cute in his baby fat too.
If there's a way to mix figure skating with mixed martial arts, we have the perfect platform for the "gigantic melting iceberg death match."
"Not all climate change deniers are also Jewish holocaust deniers. But almost all holocaust deniers are also climate change deniers. You can't deny that. "
Hey Dennis, yes I can because you can't prove it.
Oh My GAWD.
Can this thing sink Autralia like the Titanic?
The sky is falling.
Wolf
Please do not associate the "scientists" that are trying to scare us into buying the man made climate change with the likes of Galileo and Capernicus.
Those brave souls had to be careful that they didn't run afoul of those who accepted doctorine wihtout valid proof which was the consensu of the day.
Galileo was tortured by the Earth is flat believers of his day.
He had scientific proof that it wasn't. Also, he didn't destroy his data.
The man-made global change movement is not science it is a religion.
The followers beleive even though there is no proof. The leaders preach because it gives them power.
Just like the church back then.
It is religion, not science.
An iceberg is going to crash into Australia. This is a very, very, unusual event.
Icebergs have not been seen in the waters of Australia for who knows how long?
It must be the result of global cooling.
The essence of communist dictatorship is that all actions are political and all actions can be proven by a scientific method (a dielectic). Thereby eliminating the influence of human thought, which is inherently corrupt.
In global warming, now called "climate change" we are seeing the application of orthodox, communist/stalinist doctrine.
This is all part of the new political religion, not unlike hard core Jesuit doctrine of the 1500s.
Winter in the northern hemisphere and summer in the southern. So what's unusual with ice and snow breaking lose and melting?
I'm old enough to remember global cooling.
Did an SUV cause the iceberg to form?
Hey fresh water for the Aussies!
The bigger question is how do we get Al Gore on to the iceberg?
I returned from Antarctica 3 weeks ago, and we sailed past B17B on 10th November taking lots of photos! Huge berg, lots of birds on the ledges and fierce weather. We also worked on the Mertz Glacier which has a crack almost all the way through, with 100 YEARS of ice ready to break off and drift into the ocean: wait until that happens, and the headlines that we caused it! Perfectly natural event, long overdue, but 50km long will be interesting to see.
We're all going to die!
(No wait. I live in Arizona.)
You're all going to die!
Now that we know global warming is a scam, I am going to fill up my Camaro with premium and BURN RUBBER!!! This is going to be AWESOME. How bout that, "communist tree hugger"?
Golly Professor Algore! Does this mean that if the iceberg hits Australia, Australia will sink?
Look at the sat photo closely. Did you see the Michaelmoore and Algore whales cresting and spouting hot air from their blow holes?
Thank goodness for the UK ACTUALLY talking about this stuff. In America, the press has already swallowed... oh,yes, they swallowed a pill too!
Take a look at information regarding the planet Venus. Scientists can't figure out why the surface appears to have as recently as 100 million years ago been entirely covered by lava. What happened on earth about 100 million years ago? Global warming? If Venus is closer to the Sun than the earth and its surface was made hotter than the earth's, well could it be that the biggest source of heat in our local galaxy is the cause of any surface warming we have been experiencing here on earth? And Mercury's core is said to be cool but its surface is warm. Could that also be related to the Sun and NOT HUMANS? Gore, environmentalists are all retards who believe that they are so powerful that they can make the earth warm. Let's raise a couple billion dollars and send all of those climate change people to a nice padded room, with the nice white walls, and jackets with sleeves but no holes for their hands. Electro-shock therapy anyone?
It is obvious that global warming has become a religion. Let the global warming faithful practice their faith in peace. However, the separation of church and state argument should apply, so get the government out of it.
lets see it will create an earth quake when it hits the continintal shelf. Now we have to fear earth quakes, besides riasing sea levels and scorching heat. Someone please hold their breath, got to save the world.
Oh wait, ....debunked scinece, destroyed data, altered reports, hidden data, FRAUD!
oh heck, NEVER MIND!!!!
Is there any chance we can airlift this thing and drop it on Belgium?
"Dr Young said sightings of large icebergs could become more frequent if sea temperatures rise through global warming."
What a ridiculous thing to say. You know why antartic ice is breaking up and melting now?
Because in antartica, it's SUMMER. Duh!
Why aren't they planning to harvest it for the fresh water content?
Ray
You guys are a bunch of global cooling deniers
What the heck, maybe Dubai World could turn it into a floating ski resort before it melts...
Well, the good news is that ice mass in Antarctica is at a milennial high. So much for global warming.
Even after it had been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, people STILL believed taht not only the Earth was flat, but also that the stars/planets/sun and moon revolved around the Earth.
Science can only do so much. The anti-science flat-Earthers with their heads in the sand cannot be helped at this point. they hate science because they understand so little. No matter tho. Scince, Technology and Progress ALL move forward with or without the deniers.
How big is it compared to Belgium?
"Dr Young said sightings of large icebergs could become more frequent if sea temperatures rise through global warming."
What a ridiculous thing to say. You know why antartic ice is breaking up and melting now?
Because in antartica, it's SUMMER. Duh!
So the headline should have read something like "Iceberg floats in ocean for a bit"
Thank God this is the on-line version of the DT and I didn't have to pay a quid to read such a pile of lazy, misguided, horsesh1t journalism.
I do give climatologists one thing: Climate change is much harder to disprove than Chicken Little's claim. Maybe someone could intercept some e-mails . . . oh, someone did? Then maybe we should examine the data . . . what do you mean it's been destroyed? And this bilge eminates from a "scientific" profession that likes to be known by its precise methods. Deceptive maybe, precise not!
We love information and we have more than ever before. Problem is, most of it comes from a media that pushes extremes, fanfare, and known lies to get us to read and listen so that they can get advertizing dollars. I want truth and that takes reading, meditation and a basis for what man is doing on this earth in the first place. GOD so loves this world...!!
Just because you don't believe in global warming does't mean you don't believe in a healthy existance with nature. It means you don't believe in blowing trillions of dollars on a scam. you don't believe in govermant controll over oeverthing.. including how much you breath, sorry exhale.
Clean water, clean air, viable forest an oceans we can all do our part. paying for carbon will not solve anyithing. just put money in the pokets of liars an cheats.
I bet Bruce Willis can handle this problem. After all, he has handled terrorists, ghosts and that little astroid thing.
There could have been worse times to be here.
Over the last half century - the American middle class racked up more travel miles than Marco Polo, ate better than Francis I and stayed in much better digs.
Americans have lived like kings before us.
so the kings among us - want fewer of us - and more for them
I like the idea of fewer people - if only for the animals and plants.
I love the natural world.
"Dr Young said an iceberg the size of B17B had not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century clipper ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia."
Those clipper ships must have had a big carbon footprint to cause global warming and the subsequent Icebergs so close to Australia back then!
H2O is water. CO2 is carbon dioxide. Lets see, CO2 + H20 + Light energy and photosynthisis strips the Carbon from the Oxygen in CO2, the Hydrogen from the oxygen in the Water, and gives Carbon and Hydrogen compounds (celulose or wood) + O (oxygen). Later, when the lightning strikes, the oxygen recombines with the carbon and the hydrogen in the celulose (wood) and the rusulting fire gives you CO2 and water as the products of combustion.
A natural carbon cycle.
Lots of CO2 and heat? Lots of plants and trees. Too many plants and trees? Lots of oxygen and fuel. One ligtning strike and the cycle repeats. Man is totaly unnecessary.
The FOOD CHAIN is dependent on that horible toxic chemical CO2? You mean CO2 may not be a polutant after all? It just might be necessary for life on earth as we know it?
"Gaia" uses a CO2 cycle to produce life. The warmer the big bright thing in the sky makes things, the more CO2 gets driven out of soulution in the ocean. Yes photosynthesis is working in the ocean as well. Remember phytoplankton?
OK, ever see bubles come out of Coke as it warms up? Thats CO2 just in case you never took the time to think about it.
And the big bright thing in the sky? Astronomers call it a variable star. That means it's heat output is not constant.
Nor is our orbit around the sun a perfect elipse.
Ever have a top when you were a kid? It starts to wobble when the spin slows down right? Physics calls that precessional rotation. The earth does that. The rotational period is 23,000 years. The same ice age cycle that was noticed in the 1.5 mile deep ice core sample taken in Antartica that reads like tree rings going back 150,000 years. Yup, the traped gas bubles in the ice can be read for exact % of CO2, CH4, O and N in a gas chromatograph.
When the north pole is pointed more directly at the sun, the ice melts at the north pole. Simple enough.
The list of things that give us climate change is very long and we have not even discoverd half of whats on it, none of which are caused by man. Most of the natural causes of our climate change make what man does on this earth laughably insignificant. One big forest fire puts out more CO2 than the UK can possibly tax in 10 years.
By the way UK, follow the money!
Our climate is driven by the sun. Not by George Soros and his progressive team mates in the UN and our government.
"An iceberg the size of B17B had not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century clipper ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia"
So lets see. There used to be icebergs this big before global warming started, now man made global warming is the cause. What a bunch of bull droppings. It happened before naturally it's happening not naturally. AGW is a scam. We have know that for years and the recent climategate e-mail and computer code just confirmed it.
thats good ,It will help with there drought........melt it down and drink it.....
Al Gore Lies,no carbon taxes....
Let's see, Australia is mostly desert and an iceberg the size of Sydney Harbor comes floating in? All I see is opportunity.
Of course, if you are Green, you're a fracking depressive idiot anyway.
We've got the ice, who's going to get us a scotch that's large enough for this thing?
Discussing global warming is distracting everyone from the REAL problem: The Socialists are still trying to take over the world. That is what everyone should be discussing...
Wow... an iceberg this size hasn't been seen this far north since the 19th century... back during the height of global warm... wait a minute...
Can we drop Al Gore on it and leave him there? PLEASE????
Seriously, sounds like a chance for somebody to fly people out there and let them party like a polar bear. We have so many up in Alaska they are becoming pests, but no one is allowed to shoot them because they are "endangered" which is a POLITICAL definition. There are more now than 100 years ago. Want a dozen? I'm sure they would like penquins....
The length of 7 football pitches? Arent we calling it climate change and not global warming?
Also this planet has been around for how many years and we have only kept record of weather for about 200 years, but more accuratley for the last 100 years.
I like the ignorant comment of blaming it on Bush. I am surprised it wasnt blamed on Tiger Woods now.
So glaciers are formed by ice/snow building on top of eachother....ok cold weather... then it eventually breaks off...ok normal.
but they say its global warming...yeah warmer weather makes ice and causes ice to break off.
Meanwhile its -21 where I'm living...OK
Readers here seem predominantly to be rather annoyed with global warming theorists.
Why?
Because these theories suggest destroying the amazon, and exhausting limited resources, such as fossil fuels, is..err..questionable? or even...unsound?
It should be first be proven beyond question that making profit in a particular way is ...selfish, and stupid, before we limit self indulgence?
Call me communist tree hugger, but the bad names will not feed your children.
As I recall, Canada and the American midwest used to be covered in glaciers. The earth has left evidence of it's own warming and cooling waaay before we were ever here.
To bad one of those icebergs can't collide into California.
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Dennis Kerr... Your post is exactly why the Democratic Party continues to lose all credibility. Anytime someone disagrees with their views, they play their trusty race card - your post is no different - loosely or directly tie someone to racial or contraversial issues to control their voice. Shameful and disgusting.
It's going to miss Australia! ! You mean to tell me I bought those 2 cases of Scotch expecting a lot of free ice and now I'm going to have to buy bags of it? ? Story of my life.
doesn't the hadCRU data itself (prior to value added adjustments) suggest that ocean temperatures have actually cooled slightly in the last few years (while land temps have risen mainly due to urban heat island effects)? isn't that the 'travesty' to do with not being able to find any warming from the CRU emails?? yet once again we hear about the melting ice coming to get us bwahahah! the Ice Giants are wroth and potent! flee, flee for the hills! give it a break.
Global warming is a LIE! Pass it on...
Merry Christmas!
'once in a lifetime sighting'. Really? look up A24 from 1990. It dwarfs B17b, and made it to the Falklands. It was 95k by 90k.
Yep! Its global warming! No doubt...whats that? Climategate? Climateqqudic? Southpole ice melt? Oh forget it, no one in their right mind would buy that anymore.
Wonder if the Aussies could melt that sucker to mitigate their drought worries?
"Dr Young said an iceberg the size of B17B had not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century clipper ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia."
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"Dr Young said sightings of large icebergs could become more frequent if sea temperatures rise through global warming."
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Wait a minute. I thought the UN said this is the warmest decade for the last 1,000 years. Was that a typo; were there clipper ships in the Ninth century? Or did the UN add a zero?
It's Bush's fault
The chief cause of global warming is insufficient taxation.
A note from a scientist in antartica sent to me about 2 months ago regarding the volcano thats warming the under belly of antartica...
The volcanic activity discussed in the NG article is only impacting the Pine Island Glacier area of Antarctic (near the Ross ice shelf). The recent Wilkins activity is not related to the volcanic activity, and is thought to be caused more from warming ocean anomalies and air temperature changes.
Do you ever hear about the underwater volcano in the media????
Yawn. So then, we have blizzards and storms in the Northern Hemisphere, and ice melting in the Southern. Seems reasonable to me, after all, it IS winter north of the equator, and summer to it's south. Is Al Gore the only one who doesn't understand?
The next person that mentions global warming to me is going to get an icicle up the @#$!
It's freezing out there!
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If gloBULL warming is real, then why did Al Gore buy a 4 million dollar waterfront condo in SanFrancisco?
Alright!!! Break out the tequila, time for a party!!! Ice is on the way...
The West is a bunch of feminized nuts...Merry Christmas.
Look at space weather (dot) com they show the suns sunspot cycles and have
data back to 1700 ... pick a cold year or hot year or even a cold period of
time or a hot period of time that you remember and see how the sun fits right
in with the cold and warm differences on earth... wow the sun.. actually has
something to do with heat and cooling. al gore left this giant ball of fire
completely out of his story.... sad to say...
Friends of Mother Earth. This is a sign that we must do something, that we must stop traveling on vacations, that we must stop consuming meat, that we must stop destroying our Mother by driving to grandma's house. We've only got a short amount of time, but maybe, just maybe if we were to make Al Gore the Emperor of the World, then he could do something! He could caress our Mother and make her healthy again.
Fricken pathetic earth worshipers!
blow up the iceberg up...and move on! I seen construction crews blow up granite , so a pile of ice snow should be a piece of cake.
Wait a minute. The Antarctic ice pack, in which almost 90% of the planet's ice exists, is growing, and because the natural effect of that (glacial calving) occurs, now global warming is the cause?
Do reporters go to J-school because they didn't qualify for anything more academically more rigorous?
Find the book entitled "New Lies for Old" by Anatoliy Golitzyn. You will see in this extremely readable book how the left (socialist) mind works to torment and keep people off balance. What we are seeing in "global warming" is a coordinated effort by leftist tyrants to channel money to their disgusting regimes. The must be smashed.
First this: "Dr Young originally spotted the iceberg using satellite images from Nasa and the European Space Agency."
Next, this:"Dr Young said sightings of large icebergs could become more frequent if sea temperatures rise through global warming."
No, Dr, Young - sightings have - and will - become more frequent because they are made possible due to technology courtesy NASA.
They had to throw Global Warming in, but the author contradicted himself. At the begining of the article the author states that icebergs this size have not been seen since the early 1900's when the clipper ships were around. Now there is another large iceberg, but it is global warmings fault. I may be wrong, but i seem to remember clipper ships being propeled by the wind and not fosil fuel? Maybe the sailors of clipper ships were breathing too hard and caused a period of global warming in the early 1900's. Good thing those sailors are not around now, can you imagine the damage to the enviroment if we had 1900's sailors and SUV's both contributing to global warming?
Quick! Go outside, turn on your SUV and rev the engine. We can warm it up and melt it.
Glaciers calve icebergs when cold temperatures and snowfall cause the glacier to grow. Antartica is rarely above 0C or freezing. If the waters in Antartica were WARM the iceberg would have melted by now. This iceberg is actually a sign of Global Cooling rather rather warming, but common sense has gone out the window in the scientific community, along with their sciece.
Dennis Kerr - "But almost all holocausr deniers are also climate change deniers." First, only a fool says that climate doesn't 'change'; I only say that there is still not one piece of evidence to prove humans affect it in any measurable way. Secondly Dennis, if you believe that MORE ice seen floating in the sea is evidence of 'global warming' then you must then also believe that less ice seen floating in the sea is evidence of global cooling, correct?
Wrong Dennis, I'll stake my engineering degree that the OPPOSITE is in fact true.
Mine it, take the fresh water home.
Icebergs today, meteors tomorrow
This just in
Increased CO2 will extinguish the heat from meteors making them more likely to strike land and thus hit small children in baby carriages off to the park for a family day out.
People--Read-Read-Question-Question--Everthing! Do your own Thinkin' or somebody will be doin' it for ya!
Global warming or not...whatever. The fact is that we are polluting the crap out of our planet and any attempts to reverse this trend should be supported and not dismissed as bad science.....or whatever the world's biggest polluters are currently spitting out, (just in time for the Copenhagen summit).
All this talk of ice and icebergs have made me feel cold so Ive turned the heating up
Let me get this right:
When there are no icebergs it's because of global warming which has melted all the ice.
When there are icebergs it's also global warming, obviously.
So, when exactly is it not global warming?
The problem with hypocrisy is that it destroys credibility!
This iceberg broke off in 2000. It has been floating around Antarctica since then. Global temps starting slowing high temperature peaking trends after 1996; in direct correlation with Sunspot activity.
Please don't fall the global tax/world government propoganda. This is not some apocalyptic guilt trip. Going green is good, but giving power to the international banks and eugenicists isn't.
To Dave Youngman: you are right on!
So, is it possible that dropping large chunks of ice (12 miles wide) into the sea will cool the waters and lead to global cooling?
Just the other side of the equation. Be a rational thinker, not a sheep. Question what you are told or shut up.
How about the Aussies garb a hold of this iceberg surround it with a plastic ring and siphon fresh water for Sydney for a few years?
"Climate Change" is the new religion.
It has high preists like Algore - Obama - and moonbat crazy Europeans, it requires a TON of faith, it has suspicious doctrine and fuzzy science, oh and it's proponents are incredibly pompus - arrogant/intolerant of other views and would require you to give 10 percent (or more) of your earnings as a tithe on the altar of liberal income redistribution in order to make up for having the nerve to live a comfortable life.
The greatest threat to our society is fascists, especially the global warming kooks.
wait...the tempature over the last several years is actually down...and somehow this thing broke off because of global warming?
huh?
Mr. Kerr grandly illustrates how those who share his vies cannot have a civil discussion on most issues and generally rely on name-calling, and ad hominem attacks on those who do not share their views.
Pay attention and you will see this trend play out in every sphere of discourse.
We are all doomed! Open your wallet! Money will stop GW.
Here's how DISinformation works.
12 years ago, papers were published detailing how oscillating currents under Antarctica's ice shelf could potentially cause cleavage of some of the Richardson and Ross Shelves.
5 years ago, the NASA ARGOS program began obtaining direct measurements that showed unequivocably that the oceans were COOLING, in spite of nearly all predictions by so-called experts.
Today, 9 years after it broke off, the B15I iceberg was reported to have broken off as the result of oceans heating from Global Warming. This was in an article titled "Giant iceberg heading for Australia" containing the following quote:
"As the waters warm, the iceberg will thin out, so it is not going to get to Australia..."
People, when are we going to stop being gullible morons, and demand some integrity in the reporting of the news. This article simultaneously presents a totally fabricated disaster scenario, with the very insignificant facts loosely sprinkled in between, and barely differentiates one from the other. And judging by the comments, there are quite a few people who just don't have the mental capacity to make this distinction themselves, and thus are fully convinced that the world is going to end tomorrow.
What is the benefit of this and why don't we demand better...?
***"Icebergs are formed as the ice shelf develops. Snow falls on the ice sheet and forms more ice, which flows to the edges, onto the floating ice shelves."***
And--there is so much of it that it is breaking off and floating away.
I remember a documentary (that has never been rerun) where a guy in a boat was identified as the "preeminent scientist on the effects of global warming on Antartica". He states in a close up "I know there is evidence of the effects of global warming here---and I'll keep looking until I find it"
Since he is "preeminent" I'm sure he drags down 150K a year in our tax money--not including the monster expenses in supporting these people "looking" for data that they can deify
I recently read the book 'Alone' written by Admiral Byrd about his polar expedition in 1934. He even commented in that book that icebergs were breaking loose and some were very close to Australia. When I read his commentary it made me realize that we know absolutely NOTHING about how and when our climate will and can change.
I recently read the book 'Alone' written by Admiral Byrd about his polar expedition in 1934. He even commented in that book that icebergs were breaking loose and some were very close to Australia. When I read his commentary it made me realize that we know absolutely NOTHING about how and when our climate will and can change.
"...had not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century clipper ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia." Man-made global warming wasn't present back then, so why mention it now. This article was downright interesting (albeit, mis-named, on purpose, I presume) until Dr Young mentioned GWarming. Since we all can assume he meant man-made global warming, for me this article lost its credibility. The hoax tainted it.
Another fabricated BS story, just like every story that connected to Global cooling/warming. This completely false! These aholes warming communist scientists should be tried for fraud! Anyone who went to the Global warming jet fest should be put in jail for fraud. I want to see a live video not picture that was doctored by the fraud scientists. This is the only way to attain a global government or a one world order on the backs of the people around the world. TAX and Spend juunkie addicts need to go rehab and then jail for life! I think here in the USA a revolution is getting started and it won't be pretty. Do you want a moron like Gore who falsified data on his rediculus movie run the world? To global warming mutts prove your data. Give us a live feed tape of this so called Iceberg, they can't it's a 100% BS story. When repeated liars give you the same lies about global cooling why trust these communists scum. Impeach Obama and every global warming communists around the world. 1200 private jets and all the leaches that are so called BS scientist are having CO2 oragasims whith all the polution out their fat a---s.
Ask yourselves why is it only a doctored picture from space is in the article? If this iceberg existed the navy would blow it up, because of shiping lanes and there would be photos of it up close not from space! 1000% BS!
that the ice feeding the floating ice shelf kept coming, is why the thing broke off. It is ICE after all, not steel beamed reinforced concrete! Crazy freak hysterical moron hallucinating climate change global hoax believers need to be locked up for their own good, and our tranquility!
Iceburg Heading To Sidney. Humor doesn't exist anymore so we turn to the EPA as a serious substitute. Yes, the Environmental Protection Agency will relate the traumatic multitude of coming events in true Hollywood style. To be on the safe of this event I'm in Melbourne, Florida. However, I offer some consolation to the inhabitants of Sidney. I will be watching through heavy lenses. First the colision will produce an earth quake of 12 on Rick's Scale. Everybody knows Rick right? This will include largest tsunami ever and due to the temperature differencal will freeze all the fish around Sidney causing a massive fish clean up operation, followed a huge EPA tax unless the iceberg can be broken up. This will likely lead to a military preemptive strike strategy.
The world was hotter during the epic time of dinosaurs because of dinosaur farts.
I'm guessing the ecochondriacs will attempt to tie this in with man made-up global warming.
Looks like target practice for the navy. Let it get closer, smaller, then blast it. Break it up and let it melt.
Yikes, what a non-story. I have to assume that Ms. Malkin is tired of all that "Climategate" messiness that all of your brain-dead liberal readers detest so you are throwing them a bone. Perhaps a little historical insight into the frequency of such events would have given the writer and the story some credibility.
With all the guff and hot air given off by these unmentionables, no wonder global warming is accelerating. And when was the last time you recycled anything you effing dwaks!
According to the geological records there have been at least SEVEN ICE AGES. In between the Ice Ages the entire planet warmed to a tropical state. No SUV's then to cause gloBULL Warming. ANY time somebody tells you "This has never happened before" (Gore says little else) and we all KNOW it HAS then it is a good indicator those who are making the claim have a vested ($$) interest in bullsheeting the rest of us. Thanks mainly to the NET we are NOT quite as STUPID as they'd hoped.
OMG You're All Going To Die, scientists have said.
GIANT ICEBERG ON COLLISION COURSE WITH AUSTRALIA.
I hope their "scientists" have told their "policymakers" to start building lifeboats
OMG.. read the article !!! This ice berg broke off 9 years ago !! it has been floating around in circle for 9 years straight without melting !! hahaha ! readit for yourself ! This thing broke off 9 years ago and is still in tact 9 years later !
"Hi. My name is Dennis Kerr, and though I blog on the internet, I'm NOT smarter than a 5th grader"
obviously, this is man made global warming. Surely, this never happened before in the billion year history of earth
What rubbish to publish this. This probably happens every year and the guy says it WON'T hit Australia. Headline news to scare people I think.
You thirsty aussies down there: what about catching that icicle and using it for fresh water?
If icebergs DON'T break off, and if Antarctica just keeps growing in size, that means we have runaway Global Cooling and it will mean shorter growing seasons, mass-starvation due to lack of food, people freezing to death in their homes....is that what the AGW cult believers want?
If icebergs DON'T break off, and if Antarctica just keeps growing in size, that means we have runaway Global Cooling and it will mean shorter growing seasons, mass-starvation due to lack of food, people freezing to death in their homes....is that what the AGW cult believers want?
I find all comments Entertain ing! Frankly, I AM NOT worried re: if an ice berg breaks off & heads to the Earth's equator. I'm in the Mid-Atlantic of N Am.
What me worry. Ya'll keep up the good work & please! USE your common sense. Thanks for reading
Of course, global warming caused this. But what caused it in the previous century (as stated in the article)?
"Dr Young said an iceberg the size of B17B had not been seen so far north since the days when 19th century clipper ships plied the trade route between Britain and Australia."
So, global warming sank the Titanic???
hahaha !! Jornalism is dead. This iceberg is NOT headed on a collision course with Australia and will never reach it ! To find that out just read the article ! Its a full on bait and switch just to get you to read (and apparently it worked on me). So the article should read, Giant Iceberg Will NOT Reach Australia.
The "data" (manipulated, unmanipulated, who knows these days) shows a 0.8 degree temperature rise over the past 150 years. What was the accuracy of thermometers 150 years ago? According to an MIT scientist recently interviewed. Far less accurate than 0.8 of a degree.
Boy here we go again,,,, I would like someone to explain why was the world warm when the dino's were here??????? This global warming thing may be true but there is nothing we can do about it, its natural and if it is not its too late.
This all my fault. I was down there on a cruise and I farted while out on the deck and the sonic boom from my fart knocked the ice shelf loose. My Bad.
stop the climate change/global warming crap. no more junk science, please.
Any attempt to compare the Holocaust denial to Global Warming is idiotic since the Holocaust already happened and is historical fact. Man Made Global Warming is a theory based on cherry picked and manipulated data.
Even if there is such a thing as global warming, who cares??? We (the human species) certainly didn't cause it. The global climate is completely out of our control. The Earth's geological record holds evidence of much greater extremes than what we are experiencing today. All you alarmists should take a chill pill, relax and inform yourselves. Don't be driven by ignorant fear! I used to be one of you, but I'm now enlightened and it feels great. Long live the Earth!
Icebergs are freshwater ice. Much of Australia is a desert. as the iceberg breaks up into smaller icebergs, these could be towed ashore and dikes built around them. As they melt, pump the freshwater ashore. Usually, this is not feasible because the icebergs are too far from where you would want the water. Remember something like 85% of the iceberg is below the surface of the sea. That's a lot of water.
Yawn, many years ago as a boy in South Africa I remember standing on Table Mountains and seeing a largish iceberg off of South Africa.
This happened only once.
I do not recall anything with the headlines "Iceberg heading to South Africa".
Or fatuous talk of doom and gloom. It is the climatic fluctuations stupid.
Very intersesting, almost!
Oh dear, oh dear ... the article heading should read: "Giant iceberg NOT heading for Australia". People would still read it and your title would be accurate rather than lazy misinformation - ('Dr Young said the iceberg was unlikely to hit the Australian mainland'). Do you actually pay staff to write this rubbish?
The only question I have is....
WHY havent companies like Coke or someone taken advantage of this free clean watersource...
All they need to do is figure out how to harvest it...
At the very least it will keep the cold ice from slowing down the ocean currents..
"Not all climate change deniers are also Jewish holocaust deniers. But almost all holocaust deniers are also climate change deniers. You can't deny that."
Dennis Kerr
on December 09, 2009
Yes, I can.
"Then when the ice from the poles have all melted from factories in countries that pollute using slave labor, industry will call on these deniers to deny there ever was ice at the poles to start with. "
Good grief, you must be a troll. No one could actually believe that nonsense. It is one thing to suggest that there is global warming. It is an entirely different matter to suggest it is man-made. Before you can get to the second point, you first have to establish the former, which has not been established (does it occur to you there might be a reason the folks at East Anglia deleted the temperature records for the last 150 years?).
Ice melts. That is a fact. More ice is also created during the winter. That is also a fact. As long as more ice is created in the winter than what melts in the summer, there is no net change. Pictures of ice melting doesn't mean that the world is getting warmer unless you establish that there is a net loss of ice.
There may be less (net) ice in the Arctic, but there is more (net) ice in the Antarctic. If there is more ice, but the "more" is in the South, does that mean the world is getting warmer or colder? You can play with these facts anyway you want, to prove whatever theory you want to spew, as long as you don't provide ALL the facts to an easily swayed public.
The fact that more ice is breaking off is proof that there is added weight to the ice (that is, MORE ice) and it has no where else to go, so it breaks off. The fact that ice is breaking off and creating more icebergs is proof that there is MORE ice than there was, say 50 years ago, than there is today (not there there is "warming"). That's simple physics.
I'm reminded of Kevin Kostner's "WaterWorld" and...I sincerely wish I was (merely) wax'g sarcastic! I can hardly wait until the 'Goddsters' from the west blame this berg on 'gays/gay civil rights acceptence', while the 'Goddster's' from the east blame it on the 'great satan', etc!
This article is a hoot. The title says "Iceberg is going to hit Australia"....and within the first sentences a scientist says the berg is now traveling north and will bypass OZ. Then to make sure the scare tactics continue the writer HAS to drop the GW (Global "Warming" )bomb by saying "MORE ICEBERGS...boowahaaa...will develope due to Global Warming??? This fruitcake gives the scientific explaination for the developement of icebergs: MORE SNOW FALLING ON ICE SHELF (which does not happen if phony global warming is occurring)...this snow then becomes ice (again because its COLDER not warmer) and flows into the crevices along the shelf edges eventually working like a knife cutting off chunks know as icebergs. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.To make more icebergs you need more snow. You don't get more snow if Global Warming is occurring!! Its all about control, power and MONEY. Global Warming has been shown now via the hacked emails to conclusively be equivalent to the Boogie Man, Nessie and the EASTER BUNNY. Don't beleive the One World crap scare tactics.
why can't we just leave the iceberg alone? did anyone ever think that maybe it's just trying to find it's relatives. god, i'd hate to be there when it finds out they all melted.
Typical bait and switch article with a bit of global warming hype thrown in for good measure. The headline on Drudge leads you to believe there is a serious threat. But reality proves this thing will NEVER reach Australia. I wish I could have been there the moment this thing broke off.
These "Global Warming Experts" Kill me. They want us to believe that we are the cause of Global Warming, but don’t look at the past for the other Ice Ages and Warming Periods. Who do they think they are the Wizard from Wizard of Oz! "Don’t pay attention to the man behind the curtain". I say we need to question everything.
Here is a quick scientific experiment. Fill a glass up with ice and then fill it with water. According to Al Gore and other experts the water will over flow and that is due to Global Warming. The only problem is that it doesn’t over flow. Another hole in their theory!
Dennis--you sir are an idiot.
Nice try. . . but the two things are completely different, and you only give away your ignorance of the facts, by trying to tie known morons to your opposition to solidify your opinion as true.
If you want to believe in the class warfare nonsense that is spewed, thats fine, its your choice to become a foot soldier and practically a slave to the democrat mindset, to collapse a system so they can implement another of their choosing. Congratulations you must have graduated from an American government school were you are told what to think rather how to think.
All you have done is spit out Democratic talking points. I'm sure Al Gore would be proud, hey maybe he'll fly over on his huge jet and personally shake your hand for making him rich!!!!! You are now a part of the dumb masses.
So, following that reasoning, if icebergs were seen in Hawaii it also would be proof of global warming?
Global warming started 18,000 years ago, when we turned the corner on the last ice age.
"Not all climate change deniers are also Jewish holocaust deniers. But almost all holocaust deniers are also climate change deniers. You can't deny that. "
"Then when the ice from the poles have all melted from factories in countries that pollute using slave labor, industry will call on these deniers to deny there ever was ice at the poles to start with. "
The proof that the manmade climate change argument is failing is that idiotic comments like this are coming out of the woodwork. Without proof, just attack the messengers.
12 x 5 miles. That's enough room to build a pretty nice sized travelling community. Everyone would eventually have waterfront property also.
So...icebergs were sighted in the 1800's in the vacinity....prior to industrialization and supposed AGW. Now that the bergs are again spotted they are due to AGW and warming seas?
Icebergs are not created through warming of Antartica. They are created by calving, whereby the extent of ice off the continental shelf becomes so massive that they snap off.
Now, for the icebrags to make it so far from Antartica towards Austalia, they need to be very large and/or floating in otherwise cooler than normal water.
This comment about warming seas is just thrown in at the end of the article without any substance to back it up.
Typical of the AGW thinking.
Dennis... your comparison to holocaust deniers is such false statement that it displaces more water that that iceberg does.
Right now the temp at the south pole is -26 c so unless the average temp comes up to tropic temps for about 10yrs the ice wont melt.
Have you thought about going back to 3rd grade it may help?
Can anyone tell me what the actual perfect temperature of the earth should be based on 150 years of data versus millions upon millions of years of earth's existence? Put differently, who says that the world should be this cold? The hubris on display of those who think that because we now have "modern" technology, that it means that we must preserve the status quo. Even if man is responsible for the earth's temperatures rise, who can tell me that this isn't as much for good as it is, apparently, for evil?
Second, no matter how hot a temperature reads in a specific location, scientist seem always to refer to a higher temperature reading sometime well before man's impact on the earth could have ever be realized. If this is so, the SUVs of the world aren't doing what they think they are doing to the climate, now are they?
Last, CO2 emissions have always increased year over year, yet for the last 10 years, the earth has been cooling. Huh? Now we know why the CRU scientists were trying so desperately to "hide the decline." Dr. Mann is a liar, and his cohorts are as crooked as he in trying to maintain his lie. Al Gore and his ilk have had their 15-minutes of fame; good riddance.
Here's a tip, Mr. Kerr: When temperatures go up ice melts, it doesn't break up! When there is *more* snow and ice--as there is in Antartica now--more icebergs break off.
Besides, this could be just the thing to alleviate Australia's current drought. Just round up a 'berg or two and start hacking off truckloads of ice for delivery to the dryer areas.
It is summer in Australia. Do you actually think that iceberg will make it up there intact in the middle of the summer heat? Get real!
So Dr. Young says we will see more due to global warming, then I need for him to explain why in the 19th century we saw so many icebergs? I believe if the raw data hadn't been thrown out by some "scientist" on climate temperature fluctuations we would see that it naturally occurs. It has since the beginning and will continue long after humans are gone. Please do not call me a "Science Denier" as that makes you sound unintelligent and like a tyrannt.
****"Not all climate change deniers are also Jewish holocaust deniers. But almost all holocaust deniers are also climate change deniers. You can't deny that."****
ACTUALLY, yes you can deny that. If you pay attention to global diplomacy, you would know that President Ahmaninajed of Iran is going to be attending the Copenhagen climate convention. He's a pretty big holocaust denier, and he's going to rip into the US and the UK over "climate change".
Dennis, yours may possibly be one of the dumbest arguments made on global warming yet. And in a debate filled with lies and deceit from those on your side of the argument, that is quite an accomplishment. You can't deny that.
Congratulations!
Let me get this straight. This is news why? It sat in one spot for FIVE YEARS! It originally broke off in 2000!
Wow. You'd think with global warming there is simply no way an iceberg could survive for TEN YEARS at sea!
Headline News Piece. Read the headline only, think the ice cap is falling apart, don't bother to read the facts contained in the story. That is the way the news is marketed today. And of course they had to throw in that now ubiquitous phrase "scientist have said" because that means its fact.
You must be out of your mind, son. I'm not a climate change denier. I deny blaming everything on man. In 1975 we were convinced of a coming ice age. Knee-jerk science is no science at all.
You know, it IS almost summer down there right now. Of course the weather is warming up!
Please take note: All the sceptics post factual/logical comments and the global warmer posts name calling. Pretty much sums up the debate.
I like how they just had to throw that "global warming" bit in at the last second. It seems to me that the icebergs would melt and break up before they got anywhere near Austrailia if the waters were warming due to so-called global warming. IIRC the Titanic was brought down by an ice berg on an england -> new york trading route back in the early 1900s, guess that ice berg was caused by global warming too.
Dennis Kerr, what do you base your accusations on? What study has shown a link between holocaust deniers and people who don't drink the GW kool-aid? Sounds like more left-wing made up BS to me. Try to deny that, sport.
they COULD. yes, anything, in anyone's imagination, could happen. but it's not. it's not happening.
get a clue.
Bloody hades! With Global Warming/Man-Made Climate Change, shouldn't this thing have melted years ago?? Al Gore's carbon footprint alone should have been more than enough to turn this thing into a giant slushy...
"iceberg not seen this far north since 19th century" and dr young says that global warming is the cause.WTF I thought it WAS COLDER during the 19th century.These people think they can spew BS and it will be accepted by you lemmings!!!!!!!!!
"Dr Young said sightings of large icebergs could become more frequent if sea temperatures rise through global warming."
Uhh, if the waters get warmer the icebergs might exist more often, but the chance of them making to visible distance from Australia go down, don't ya think?
So let me get this straight, there used to be these large iceburgs this far north back in the 19th century, but we can expect more due to Global warming? Wouldn't that mean they would have been steadily getting bigger and more north since then? Effin pathological liars.
Not all climate change deniers are also Jewish holocaust deniers. But almost all holocaust deniers are also climate change deniers. You can't deny that.
Then when the ice from the poles have all melted from factories in countries that pollute using slave labor, industry will call on these deniers to deny there ever was ice at the poles to start with.
So this has happened before? Who would have thought that?