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Extraordinary Everyday Lives #053 – Open Science

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The Extraordinary Everyday Lives Show #053 – Open Science
Thurs 24th July 2008

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This show is all about the intersection of Technology and Human desire. This year Dave and I have been focusing on ‘deepening connections’ with those we subscribe to via RSS. Having a chat on a podcast is a remarkable way of doing that we have found. Agenda is loose guide only, we are very stream of consciousness, no edits, no script kinda guys.

New intro music this show. Courtesy of Graham, one of our guests. I remixed it a bit for the intro and play the full song, “Wake Up Now“, after the discussions.

Open Science

Rough chronological talking points:
-mike had nothing more than a vague idea such a movement would exist prior to starting work at a University in April.
-his RSS reader provided some clues to a trail which I followed – Graham Steel was one of the first to respond to my thinking out loud
-how graham and mike hooked up
-richard discovered it after posting an experiment on his labrats blog, and people got in touch.
-two sides – open scientific publication & open notebook scientists
-trust and sharing of unpublished latest work
-tension between competition and openness
-openness – outwards facing and inclusionary of wider community – sharing of scientific data
-paradigm shift – involvement with and giving something back to community
-blogging science
-use of podcasts – big uptake in uni’s
-richard is attending a ‘Science Blogging’ event at the Royal Institute in London on Saturday 30th August One of the science communications team at USyd interviewed me (richard) this morning about this conference. Very interesting: they’re really keen on the idea here. I’m also going to an Open Science meet at Southampton two days after the London meeting, organized by Cameron Neylon.
-guys will try to record and live blog the london event
-whats this about?
-discussion about how to capture the esence of a event with blogging, podcasts etc. immediacy.
-going to use one of graham’s songs for intro to this show – Wake Up Now
- Gerd’s book
-posters in 2nd Life
-mike talks about science in the sl community. specific uses of 3d environment….what are they good for in science? rf. mike crawling thru a molecule. [dnw]
-Knol – somewhere between closed and open science use? (A knol is an authoritative article about a specific topic.)

Graham Steel

“Networking between us public, science bloggers, scientists, researchers, physicians, Journals etc.”

Nature Network
Public Library of Science (PLoS) blog
Open Access Directory wiki
MacJams Music Blog
Personal blog
Do Bloggers Add a New Dimension to Conferences?

Richard Grant (twitter: rpg_twit skype: rpg7sky AIM/iChat: rpg7aim)

Nature Network
University of Sydney - Richard’s open science stuff
Personal blog

LINKS and Random Stuff

The Royal Institution – Open access & research meeting in Brisbane towards the end of September. Some impressive names.
On the subject of technology and human desire, check out this presentation from Prof David Wishart in Canada. I mashed it a wee bit.

This just in:
Over the past few years, blogging (‘web logging’) has become a major social movement, and as such includes blogs by scientists about science. Blogs are highly idiosyncratic, personal and ephemeral means of public expression, and yet they contribute to the current practice and reputation of science as much as, if not more than, any popular scientific work or visual presentation. It is important, therefore, to understand this phenomenon.


Intro music, “Wake Up Now”, by steck, via

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