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BBC 'could learn about drama from HBO'

Call for Corporation to copy US channel's 'high-quality, high-risk' attitude

By Arifa Akbar, Arts Correspondent

Sarah Jessica Parker, Kristin Davis, Cynthia Nixon and Kim Cattrall in the HBO series Sex and the City

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Sarah Jessica Parker, Kristin Davis, Cynthia Nixon and Kim Cattrall in the HBO series Sex and the City

The US pay-television channel Home Box Office (HBO) has become a global phenomenon with a Midas touch for discovering the next big series.

So extensive are its successes – Sex And The City, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Curb Your Enthusiasm and The Wire, to name a few – that the artistic director of the British Film Institute (BFI) has suggested the BBC could learn from HBO's willingness to champion high-quality, high-risk drama and comedy. Eddie Berg is so impressed with HBO that he is bringing its leading lights to Britain for a special tribute from 23 to 25 April. He hopes the two presidents of the company will be joined by producers of its hit shows.

Mr Berg said that while HBO operated in the private sector, it appeared to display a "public-sector sensibility" by taking risks in its choice of dramas, and refusing to be led by viewing figures.

Using The Wire as an example, he said HBO took a "commendable" decision to commission five series of the acclaimed Baltimore crime drama, despite it attracting a "niche audience".

"Risk drama is part of the problem for the BBC," Mr Berg said. "Could it take that kind of risk? The Wire, for example, which started on HBO, was something so niche. That's the big challenge for the BBC... it's interesting to explore the HBO model. It's doing lots of things you would expect a public broadcaster to do.

"When people think of British drama around the world, we think of quality costume drama at the BBC, but what we don't think of is [it showing] series dramas like The Wire or The Sopranos, which are contemporary and edgy.

"We have to ask ourselves why can't the BBC seem to be able to do this with all the resources it has?"

Mr Berg said he admired the fact HBO had such a "public-sector sensibility embedded in it", even though it was involved in one of the most aggressive television markets in the world.

The BFI's HBO weekend will be the biggest profiling of the channel at a British venue. "We want to look at why it has become a watchword for quality drama and quality comedy," Mr Berg said. "We will critically explore the HBO phenomenon, partly to learn from it, and to really explore it in a different way than just presenting a set of shows."

A BBC source said it was easy to applaud the success of such "buzz" television series as The Wire , screened on BBC2 last year, but the reality was that "hardly anybody watched it".

In a statement last night, the Corporation defended its "high-risk" drama output, citing the Bafta-winning Criminal Justice, Small Island, A Short Stay In Switzerland, Five Minutes Of Heaven and Being Human, which is being adapted for US TV, as big successes.

"[That is] hardly evidence of a lack of risk-taking at the BBC," the statement said. "In fact, television drama in this country is alive and well."

It insisted the BBC's role as a public broadcaster could not be compared with that of HBO, saying: "It would be quite wrong for the BBC to just cater for one audience, when different viewers tell us they value EastEnders and Ashes To Ashes as much as they do Occupation and Criminal Justice."

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damn right!
[info]joolzred wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 01:00 am (UTC)
The BBC has produced little creative, original drama since "This Life" in the mid-90's. Everything since has been a murder-mystery-by-numbers (Silent Witness et al, ad nauseum) or period adaptations.

the early 90's were a good creative time for BBC drama - what happened? The Ghostbusters Of East Finchley, All You need Is Love, The Riff-Raff Element etc etc... all original, slightly eccentric high quality dramas.

I am fed up to back teeth with the same crud churning out of TV drama... psychological "thrillers" that are just the same old themes and plots and the aforementioned murder/mystery/hospital formats.

Suggestion - get some decent writers instead of focus groups!!!!
I wish we could get HBO in Canada
[info]snowdog88 wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 04:21 am (UTC)
We get dozens of US channels here in Canada. But our government won't let us get HBO because it is so good it is seen as unfair competition.
The last BBC/HBO coproduction we saw
[info]iankemmish wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 08:42 am (UTC)
was "Carry On Bored Roman Housewives". (A series exceeded in the awfulness of its screenwriting only by its sequel, "Carry on Again Henry" -- "Erasmus' book isn't like yours, Sir Thomas, it's less utopian".)

The only thing the BBC or anyone else could learn from that is how NOT to write drama. If one's purpose is to make money for shareholders, even at the expense of insulting the audience's intelligence, then HBO is the way to go. We should thank all the gods at once that the BBC does not need to follow that accursed path.

I'll take my Hamlet with three hours of David Tennant and Patrick Stweart acting their socks off thank you - if HBO had done it I'd probably have had to put up with two and a half hours of gratuitous and not-very-well-done "t*** and a**".
HBO is (mainly) Rubbish
[info]paul999 wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 11:00 am (UTC)
HBO is all about 'event' programs such as the recent True Blood, which was/is actually Truly Awful. Dull, boring, cliched, but gets decent enough ratings because HBO is a much 'raunchier' channel and as iankemmish puts it so well, it gives you "t*** and a**". Compare the quality of writing with an excellent BBC program such as Being Human, which for some unknown reason is relegated to BBC3.

I have enjoyed the occasional series when they appear on terrestrial, my particular favourites being The West Wing and Wire, but Sex and the City as an example of good programming? Please!
Rattling the stick in the swill bucket
[info]liamvirgil wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 12:17 pm (UTC)
If the BBC tried to go back to making proper drama, the Tories would accuse them of being elitist. HBO can afford to make good stuff because they're subscription-based.
American TV is generally crap
[info]rockinrog wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 01:20 pm (UTC)
and we get the best 2% of it. Don't be fooled by HBO. In any case, why should anyone commission five series of something? The major problem with American TV is that once they hit a decent formula, they flog it to death. I thought 'Dallas' and 'Dynasty' were just blips, but just about every decent American TV series has gone on way too long.

For what it's worth, I think 'The Wire' is crap. Did the world really need another police drama, no matter how slick and post-modern? Hell, no.
Re: American TV is generally crap
[info]djresolute wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 02:11 pm (UTC)
rockinrog, you clearly have no idea about good TV dramas if you thought The Wire was crap - you're a mug
HBO vs BBC - no contest
[info]shegelu wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 02:01 pm (UTC)
This is rather old news. The BBC can do comedy but not drama. There ought to be no doubt in anybody's mind that the BBC are almost incapable of producing high quality risk taking drama. Whereas HBO has pumped out a steady stream of astonishing groundbreaking dramas, aside from period dramas, the BBC has only fitfully produced innovative dramas. Series like Being Human, Survivors, Apparitions or Wallander are the exception.
[info]oatc wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 06:11 pm (UTC)
There is something seriously wrong with the BFI if its artistic director thinks Sex And The City, The Sopranos, Six Feet Under, Curb Your Enthusiasm and The Wire are better than British or European television drama. Yes they all had a slightly dangerous edge (which bore little relationship to reality), that probably looks far more radical against the relentlessly bland backdrop of US network drama and sitcom, but none were groundbreaking. Evidentially so, because the ground in the US is unchanged. All were simply entertainment as the world passes by.

Not that much UK TV drama (or comedy) is much different in that respect, but some definitely is. Far more than in the US, in fact, and much of it relating closely to our own society.

But perhaps the BFI's artistic director was simply publicising his forthcoming programme of events?
[info]shegelu wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 06:35 pm (UTC)
If you cannot see how all the shows that you mentioned were groundbreaking, I wonder exactly which TV dramas do you consider to be groundbreaking?
[info]oatc wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 09:31 pm (UTC)
Being Human, Wallander, although the BBC version is not a patch on the Swedish original, A Short Stay In Switzerland, Dr Who and its spin-offs, Mo on Channel 4 last weekend, Skins, Mrs Mandela, some of The Street and much of Jimmy McGovern's work. Brookside, Eastenders and Corrie all broke ground permanently at one time or another.
[info]shegelu wrote:
Tuesday, 2 February 2010 at 10:24 pm (UTC)
Some of those yes, some no, imho.

Still, your choices suggest you are not lacking in critical faculties. Interesting that you name no US programmes. Are you perhaps prejudiced against American TV?

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