Chat with the Wachowski Brothers
The brothers sat down this past Saturday night for a bit of
a chat, one which tried something a little different. Those with the DVD, and
a DVD-ROM player, were able to watch the movie along with the directors. This
allowed Larry and Andy to comment on specific scenes while people asked their
questions. Those without a DVD-ROM were, of course, also able to participate.
For this transcript, we've included a short description of what was being viewed
during the chat.
Larry and Andy had a great time. Their only misgiving was not having adequate
time in the chat environment to answer questions more fully. They want to fix
that. We're going to set up a specific place here at the site where people can
post questions to the Brothers. This is a direct result of everyone involved asking
such great questions. We'll have news of how we're going to set this up here and
on the front page, shortly.
ILoveNatPortman: Can you give any
information on the sequels, or even confirm their existence?
we are working on them right now. Well, we would be working on them right now
except we have to be here in the chat room, LOL.
blindrocket: Do you practice Martial
WachowskiBros: No, we do not, but
we watch a lot of Kung Fu movies.
didn't you both do the commentary on the DVD, time restraints?
a two part answer. Part one is that we believe that film is a collaborative media,
that's why we never take a film by credit. We think the other artists who help
create a film are important and interesting, and for people who want to understand
the process of filmmaking. And the second part is, that we were too tired.
Hiryu: Which Anime
inspired you the most and why?
liked Ghost in the Shell and the Ninja Scroll and Akira. In anime, one thing they
do that we tried to bring to our film was a juxtaposition of time and space in
AgentMartin: Is there anything in
The Matrix which you weren't too happy with, wished you could have done differently?
WachowskiBros: That would require
the rest of the chat to answer! But, we'll answer that in general we're fairly
happy with the way it turned out.
blindrocket: Would you consider yourselves
WachowskiBros: You got the second
part right, just nerds! LOL.
AgentMartin: Were you excited about
DVD as a medium for your movies to go to the homes of the masses?
WachowskiBros: As a technology, DVD
is exciting medium. But like all technologies, it still needs to be developed
by the users of the technology.
Enigma: What is
the role or faith in the movie? Faith in oneself first and foremost - or in something
WachowskiBros: Hmmmm..... that is
a tough question! Faith in one's self, how's that for an answer?
Peter: Will there be a directors
cut of the matrix with any deleted scenes or out takes?
nope! Because we were pretty happy with the way it turned out.
AgentMartin: The two of you seemed
to have a great relationship together for the making of this movie. Have you always
been very close?
just met actually. Tonight!
comic books inspired the look of the Matrix?
WachowskiBros: The largest influence
from the comic book world on the actual design would be the art of Geof Darrow.
did the humans do to scortch the sky??
WachowskiBros: We'll answer that
larrikin: How long did it take to
film in Sydney? Was the entire movie shot in Sydney?
days, and yes.
On DVD, Neo is talking to Morpheus via cell phone, climbing
out the window of the Meta Cortechs office.
This is actually Keanu Reeves getting out onto a ledge, without a stuntman. He
does this entire scene without a stuntman, and it's 34 floors up.
hokeyboy: Were the filmmakers influenced
by Alex Proyas's similarly themed "Dark City"?
WachowskiBros: No, but we thought
it was very strange that Australia came to have three films associated with it
that with it that were all about the nature of reality. Dark City, The Truman
Show and The Matrix..
Enjoythesilence: How would you say
Bound and the Matrix are similar?
films examine the idea of an individual searching for their true self
while attempting to escape the box that we often make of our lives.
calla: What do
the time 9:18 and the date 9/18 signify? Is this a personal reference?
my wife's birthday.
Inge: How long did the lobby scene
take to shoot?
WachowskiBros: It took 12 days to
shoot the lobby scene.
Inge: Which scene are you guys most
happy with? Which is your favorite? For me it was Neo on his way to Morpheus the
WachowskiBros: If you're talking
about the pill scene, that's our favorite too.
Sealouse: Why was it filmed in Australia?
calla: There are
quite a few hidden messages in the movie that I notice the more I watch it. Can
you tell me about how many there are?
WachowskiBros: There are more than
you'll ever know.
Inge: Did you guys take a nice holiday
after the film opened? You deserved it!
WachowskiBros: Thank you very much!
And we did.
Sentinel: What do you think of the
fans of the Matrix??
WachowskiBros: We love them.
you prepared to become legends?
WachowskiBros: Legends of what?
MadMatt: You guys BIG Jackie Chan
WachowskiBros: Yes, we love a lot
of Hong Kong cinema. Jackie Chan in Drunken Master II is fantastic..
about the animals in the Matrix? Are they real animals or just computer-generated
they are all computer generated images.
ToiletCommando: Is it true that you
got some of your ideas from the Vertigo comic The Invisibles?
WachowskiBros: We do enjoy that comic,
ThedrickFel: What exactly was the
mirror made of? Was it the same stuff they injected into Morpheus? Why silver?
WachowskiBros: The mirror is actually
a mirror. When Neo sees it, it's a hallucination, but it's the direct result of
the pill Morpheus has given Neo. Reflections in general are a significant theme
in the film. The ideas of worlds within worlds..
you suprised by the amount of internet life that The Matrix has spawned, fan sites
WachowskiBros: Surprised? Yes, very,
very surprised. We are completely stupefied by the fan response to the film.
On DVD, Morpheus offers Neo a choice...
idea of the reflection, the two Neos in Morpheus' glasses, is that this represents
the two lives Neo is leading. In the left lens, we see the blue pill and Thomas
Anderson, and in the right lens, we see the red pill and Neo.
Jose: What kind
of drug does the red pill contain?
WachowskiBros: It's like a computer
virus that's meant to disrupt Neo's life signal so that they can pinpoint where
Neo's body is in the power plant.
Renxo: Which is
your favourite flick?
many to answer.
did you think about making this movie for the very first time? Was there a kind
of special inspiration given by any event, occasion or something like that??
WachowskiBros: It all happened very
rapidly. We were working on another comic book, and a friend asked us if we had
any ideas for a new series. We said no, and then we just started talking about
a couple of ideas that we had been working on in connection to cyberpunk fiction.
A whole idea sort of exploded, over a period of about three days.
On DVD, the pod sequence.
pretty happy with the way this scene turned out. Keanu did some amazing work in
this scene which included 6 hours every morning of prosthetic makeup. And he had
to sit in a freezing cold vat of goo for another six hours.
Renxo: Where were you born?
WachowskiBros: I was very happy with
the Don Davis score in this scene, that included his use of a boy soprano, which
I thought was very eerie. Don had a great idea, to use a human voice choir in
scenes like the power plant and scenes on the Neb to sort of suggest the plight
Doc: So, WAS the Japanese animation
Megazone 23 an inspiration for the Matrix? The stories seem very similar.
WachowskiBros: I've never seen it.
But send us a copy, it sounds good.
theman: How did you guys come up
with the idea for the Matrix? Playing video games? Shock therapy?
WachowskiBros: No, designer drugs.
Starr22: Is all the religious symbolism
and doctrine throughout this movie intentional, or not?
WachowskiBros: Most of it is intentional.
On DVD, on the Neb, Neo is being plugged in for the first time.
WachowskiBros: One of the things
we tried to do with the Neb, when we were shooting "in the real world", was use
long lenses to separate the humans from the background; as opposed to when we
shot the Matrix, we used short lenses to place the humans in specific deep spaces.
We also tinted all of the lights blue in the "real world" and green in the Matrix.
Renxo: Do you reflect your personality
on NEO's character? Were you/are you... hackers?
WachowskiBros: We're probably not
good enough to call ourselves hackers, like NEO.
On DVD, Morpheus shows Neo the desert of the real.
WachowskiBros: There have been many
questions about the history that Morpheus suggests in this scene,
we have written the history in a fair amount of detail. We've often hoped that
if we did an anime series, we would tell the story of this history and the story
of the first One. Somebody asked us about the liquification of humans, that's
what they feed the people in the pods, the dead people are liquified and fed to
the living people in the pods. Always recycle! It's a statement on recycling.
White_Beezatch: Will there ever be
a Matrix video game?
WachowskiBros: Hopefully yes. If
things work out the way we want them to, the video game will be released when
the next movie comes out and it will actually have something to do with the movie.
DrBasher: Who came up with the wardrobe,
because Trinity's outfits rocked? So did Morpheus' and Neo's. Was it part of the
WachowskiBros: We described her as
a woman in black leather in the script. But, mainly the costumes were designed
by Kym Barrett.
Chandler: Since you have worked with
the same composer and cinematographer (the great Bill Pope) did you find that
it was easier to think ahead about a visual or musical style for the film?
WachowskiBros: Did Bill Pope ask
this question? No, but it's easier to execute them. You develop a shorthand language
with people you've worked with before. You tell Bill, we need a B move, and he
knows what to do.
pomru: My friends and I are wondering
what anime you showed the producers to get this movie greenlit?
WachowskiBros: If only it had been
that easy. We had to draw the entire movie, and Keanu Reeves had to agree to do
the movie, before anybody green-lit it.
DrBasher: Also, the special effects
rocked, was the script conceived knowing the special effects were available, or
were the special effects conceived to make the script possible?
WachowskiBros: Some of the special
effects had to be invented, mainly Bullet Time.
yellerdog:What are the odds of the
Wachowskis directing a "straight up" live action adaptation of an anime?
WachowskiBros: I thought we did.
DrBasher: How long did it take to
come up with the script, because it's great?
WachowskiBros: We wrote the script
before we had even directed Bound, and worked on it up until the time of production.
TGee: When did you first think you
would have such a huge hit on your hands?
WachowskiBros: It kind of was like
a giant art house hit, in that it just kept going and going and people kept talking
about it, and there was never a moment where people were like "it's huge". People
liked it, and it just kept going.
On DVD, the Dojo sequence.
WachowskiBros: This scene took fifteen
days to shoot, and about four months of training...it's all Keanu. This is Keanu
running up the pillar and doing the full airborne 360.
ToiletCommando: Are you going to
do any projects besides the Matrix?
WachowskiBros: Maybe. If we're still
ToiletCommando: Is it hard to work
as brothers? Don't you disagree on everything?
WachowskiBros: Mom flies down to
the set everyday to settle every one of our arguments.
BigMac: Rumor has it that Cypher
is not dead....is this true?
WachowskiBros: If you ask Joey Pants,
it is. Joey Pants started that rumor.
garrett: Isn't it rather ironic that
Morpheus and his crew are completely dependent upon technology and computers,
the very evils against which they are fighting?
On DVD, the Jump Program.
WachowskiBros: That shot, where Morpheus jumps up out
of frame, we called "The Worst Camera Operator Shot in the World".
ooo: What is the Matrix?
WachowskiBros: About 2 hours and
fifteen minutes long.
spark: What made you decide on the
green tint for being in the Matrix?
WachowskiBros: It was a whole motif
inspired by the phosphorous green of old PCs.
On DVD, the woman in the red dress.
WachowskiBros: People don't realize
how important this scene is, because we are all staring at the woman in the red
dress! There are actually twins and triplets that we hired in that scene. And
all of the clothes are based on black and white costumes, like nuns, chefs, brides,
sailors. We had the idea that Mouse just doubled people instead of making originals.
But we couldn't afford to do it digitally, so we ended up hiring as many doubles,
or as many twins, as we could find in Sydney. It was kind of like a bad dream
on the set.
grey: How did you get the money for
WachowskiBros: Begged. And the big-hearted
Warner Brothers came through.
Stone: Would you like to direct Jackie
Lyn: Have you guys been approached
to direct Batman?
WachowskiBros: Yes, but we thought
we'd be busy doing the sequels.
On DVD, The Sentinels attack.
WachowskiBros: We're pretty happy
with the way the sentinels turned out. The digital artist that John Gaeta found
did some amazing work. Cypher, at the beginning of this scene, is setting up an
automated system to allow him to go meet with Agent Smith.
EZGuest316: Could you say a little
about the sound design, which was terrific, such as the slo-mo bullet ripple effects,
WachowskiBros: Dane Davis is a genius.
He built all of these sound effects from all kinds of original sounds. He'd put
bullets on strings and whirl them around his studio. He digitized raindrops against
window panes to create the sound of the Matrix code.
On DVD, Cypher enjoys steak.
WachowskiBros: By the way, this steak
was one of the best steaks we had in Sydney. We got to eat all of the ones that
Cypher didn't finish.
JediKnight: Have you been approached
with any sci-fi scripts and do you have plans to do any?
WachowskiBros: Right now, we're focusing
just on Matrix 2 and 3.
Freethinker: Just out of curiosity,
do you guys hold to any religious beliefs?
On DVD, a breakfast of champions.
WachowskiBros: Several of the cast
members actually got sick eating this stuff during this scene.
Astral_Traveler: How did you choose
WachowskiBros: For the most part,
we chose the music ourselves. But we hired a consultant DJ in LA named Jason Bentley,
a musical whiz kid, who had a lot of swell ideas.
JimmyEO971: Will Joe Pantoliano be
the DeNiro to your Scorsese, the Divine to your John Waters?
WachowskiBros: There is a court order
against Joe Pantoliano for coming within a hundred feet of us.
biggysmalls: How many bluescreen/greenscreen
shots are in this movie?
WachowskiBros: That's a good question.
There's 450 digital effect shots, but green screen? Probably about 125.
wrygrass: Did ideas from Buddhism
influence you in making the film?
There's something uniquely interesting about Buddhism and mathematics, particularly
about quantum physics, and where they meet. That has fascinated us for a long
gdreams: Will you use Yuen Woo Ping
WachowskiBros: Hell yes!
gtbpitt: Do you think The Matrix
will develop a cult following in the decades to come?
WachowskiBros: We hope it's as big
as the Night of the Lepus.
On DVD, The Oracle's apartment.
WachowskiBros: This is my wife [Larry]
about to be on the screen here. She comes in right there!.... This kid is great!
letmein: The phrase "paying taxes"
comes up a few times. Why?
WachowskiBros: Because we usually
couldn't afford to pay ours. It is an examination of what is,k and is not, certain.
Tank: I am a computer artist and
I am very interested in knowing what type of computers and software you used to
create the 3D effects?
WachowskiBros: A lot of the guys
at Manex wrote their programs with Softimage. We think.
On DVD, The Oracle.
WachowskiBros: Awesome actress!
Wesbran: Is the title "The Matrix"
related to the mitochondrial matrix located in cells; the site of cell respiration,
the creation of energy in humans?
WachowskiBros: Like the movie itself,
there is alot of word play, a lot of hidden other meanings, alot of multiple meanings.
Besides that, we also like the definition, the mathematical definition of the
use of matrix, or the use of it in terms of a woman's womb.
DVDReporter383: Do you surf fan sites?
Do you have the time?
WachowskiBros: We've looked at a
few. There's some cool ones out there.
virtualMatrix: What is the significance
of Neo eating the Oracle's cookie?
WachowskiBros: There was a piece
cut out of the movie that explained the significance more. It's hard to explain.
agunn3: Have you ever been told that
the Matrix has Gnostic overtones?
WachowskiBros: Do you consider that
to be a good thing? I would.
RockyMtnBri: Any chance of novels
being written above and beyond the movie, like Star Wars?
Freethinker: The Matrix was very
well received by critics, as well. Did that surprise you? How much stock do you
hold in critics?
WachowskiBros: There were some critics
that really didn't like it. Did it surprise us that some liked it? You don't really
hold much stock in critics, you tend to make movies for first, yourselves, and
second, your audience. And the greatest thing about critics is that sometimes
they can help find your audience.
AgentMarr: What was the thinking
behind the use of numbers that can be read both ways like 303 on the hotel door
where Neo meets his destiny?
WachowskiBros: Like the word play,
there's a lot of number play in the movie as well.
Mike: What were your fondest moments
while filming The Matrix?
On DVD, the escape from the Lafayette Hotel.
WachowskiBros: This scene, this set
right here, the wet wall, is something like forty-eight feet high, and they are
actually really worming their way down with wires.
DVDReporter383: Do you surf the net?
If so, where do you go?
WachowskiBros: We're everywhere.
linusa: Do you believe that our world
is in some way similar to "The Matrix", that there is a larger world outside of
WachowskiBros: That is a larger question
than you actually might think. We think the most important sort of fiction attempts
to answer some of the big questions. One of the things that we had talked about
when we first had the idea of The Matrix was an idea that I believe philosophy
and religion and mathematics all try to answer. Which is, a reconciling between
a natural world and another world that is perceived by our intellect.
godbox: Confronted with Neo's choice,
which would you choose?
WachowskiBros: Blue pill.
Lincoln: What comment do you have
to those who say that the Matrix will probably be recognised as the first 21st
WachowskiBros: Well, first we'd be
grateful for the comment. Then we'd have to point out the clerical error that
it's in the 20th Century, and not the 21st until 2001.
wrygrass: Did you do camcorder films
or other film practice that helped you direct?
WachowskiBros: No, nothing on video,
but we did fiddle around with 16 mm film.
Revenge: What is the symbolism of
all the analog rotary phones?
WachowskiBros: There's a couple of
meanings. We liked the analog nature of older technology. We liked the suggestion
of old original phone hackers, it sort of suggested the big Rube Goldberg device
that's in the mirror scene.
Inge: What was it like seeing the
movie with a audience for the first time?
On DVD, Agent Smith tries to get Morpheus to give the access
codes to Zion.
WachowskiBros: That's the largest
translight ever constructed, and that is actual mercury in the hypodermic needle,
by the way. It was considered one of our most dangerous sets, because we had mercury,
it had to be poured into the hypodermic needle.
Stone: Was the Alice in Wonderland
theme just whim, or do you guys have a big love of it?
WachowskiBros: Big fan! It is a brilliant
book. Many of the themes we tried to echo in The Matrix.
Orange_Crush: I noticed that The
Matrix is currently #30 in the IMDB top 250. That's quite an achievement. How
do you feel about being classified with other legendary films and filmmakers?
Wesbran: What happens to all the
gadgets in this movie after it is done filming?
WachowskiBros: Most of them are so
fragile they break as soon as you're done filming. And Joel Silver collects the
Sinclair: Why were they only able
to jack in through hard-lines, but still able to communicate over cell?
WachowskiBros: Sinclair, good question!
Mostly we felt that the amount of information that was being sent into the Matrix
required a significant portal. Those portals, we felt, were better described with
the hard lines rather than cell lines. We also felt that the rebels tried to be
invisible when they hacked, that's why all the entrances and exits were sort of
through decrepit and low traffic areas of the Matrix.
The12thMonkey: The guy that played
the lead agent was worryingly convincing, did it take a long time to find him?
WachowskiBros: Yes, actually,
and that was one of the fortuitous things about going to Sydney, it led us to
wrygrass: You said in an interview
that string theory might show up in the film, did it?
WachowskiBros: Maybe in the next
one, I have just now begun to understand string theory.
whatismyname: What's your favourite
WachowskiBros: We love all music.
ZEUS: How did you finaly choose the
names of the characters?
WachowskiBros: They were all chosen
carefully, and all of them have multiple meanings.
Qualopec: How hard was it to get
the kind of budget you wanted for this film?
WachowskiBros: We had to go across
the world to secure that budget.
wrygrass: Do you have any funny stories
from filming you'd share?
WachowskiBros: That newspaper had
to be actually a giant piece of metal with newspaper glued to metal pages. How's
that for funny?
Lincoln: What is your fave line in
WachowskiBros: Dodge this. And "there
is no spoon." We also liked that one.
Mahy: Do all of the things that happen
in the Matrix have some computer-based analogy...or did you just do some of it
because it was cool?
WachowskiBros: Yes. We like to try
and pack as much stuff as we can in when we do a movie. So some of the stuff we
do relates to the narrative, and some of the stuff we do because we like.
biggysmalls: Do you like the Planet
of the Apes?
WachowskiBros: Yes, love it! "Get
your damned dirty hands off, you stinkin' ape!".
Enigma: The character Neo: Is Neo
his real self and Thomas Anderson who he is 'required' to be?
WachowskiBros: Neo is Thomas Anderson's
Job: Do you realize that your new
ideas have changed the way people will see movies in the future?
On DVD, Morpheus escapes from the Agents.
WachowskiBros: The idea of Bullet
Time came about because we wanted to shoot an event at incredibly high speed which
means slow motion, but move the camera at regular speed, which is impossible.
The first theory for Bullet Time involved a rocket camera that was abandoned for
safety purposes. Then, John Gaeta suggested a digital solution. Which brought
it to the screen.
keanucarrie: Which scene was the
hardest to shoot?
WachowskiBros: The subway fight scene.
It was incredibly cold, everyone was very sick, and it went ten days over schedule.
It was particularly brutal to the two actors.
Dogma: Have there been any discussions
with comic book companies to publish a monthly-type of comic based on the Matrix,
not just an adaptation, perhaps with Darrow illustrating it?
WachowskiBros: We're going to release
another series of stories on the website, Geof Darrow is going to illustrate a
couple more short stories written by Andy and I. And, we've toyed with the idea
of continuing the story in comic book form when the movies are finished.
Trinity303: Do you like John Woo's
movies and style of shooting scenes of action?
WachowskiBros: John Woo was a genius.
John Woo IS a genius.
tonka: What do you think about Star
WachowskiBros: It was one of the
first films that we went berserk over when we were kids.
kr: How long had you been working
on writing the story, and was there re-writing going on while filming?
WachowskiBros: There was not much
re-writing, a little bit. Somebody asked us about the street names in the movie
and all of them are significant. They are all based on places in Chicago.
Santayana: I love the casting of
this film. Specifically, Hugo Weaving. Why him?
WachowskiBros: We had seen the movie
"Proof",so we flew Hugo into LA to meet, and he did a phenomenal reading...and
was willing to undergo the four months of training. He's one of the finest actors
we've ever worked with.
Hiryu: Did you ever consider doing
a cameo appearance in the movie?
WachowskiBros: We're too ugly!
On DVD, the subway where Neo faces off with Agent Smith.
WachowskiBros: This shot here, the
showdown shot, is an homage to Sergio Leone.
joe: I am amazed by the physical
performance, the actors had great training. What do you think?
WachowskiBros: We're amazed as well.
We think all four of them went beyond our expectations.
Revenge: Any influence from Blade
WachowskiBros: Blade Runner was a benchmark science
fiction film, a masterpiece. Of course there's influence. But we were like the
only guys who liked that movie when we saw it, everyone else hated it.
Freethinker: Did you know right away
that it would be a trilogy?
WachowskiBros: We knew we had too
much material for one movie.
inkman: Do you two feel that sci-fi
is overlooked in the "Awards" arena?
WachowskiBros: We don't put much
credence in the "awards" arena.
On DVD, Neo and Agent Smith in full fight.
WachowskiBros: There are some fantastic
stunts in this sequence like THAT one! Both the Australian stunt team and the
Hong Kong stunt team worked very well together in this scene.
AgentMartin: Do you appreciate people
dissecting your movie? Do you find it a bit of an honour, or does it annoy you
a little, especially when the person may have it all wrong?
WachowskiBros: There's not necessarily
ever an "all wrong". Because it's about what a person gets out of the movie, what
an individual gets out of the movie.
Vindicator: The whole idea of electronic
stimuli of atrophied muscles is great. Did you guys consult any medical experts
WachowskiBros: As a matter of fact,
one of our best friends is a doctor. He was the guy to show us our first autopsy.
On DVD, the Agents chasing Neo through a fruit market.
WachowskiBros: Watermelons, that
was an homage to Gallagher. On the TV, when Neo goes by there's an episode of
Action: Am I really watching the
movie right now, or am I in...The Matrix?
WachowskiBros: Take another blue
pill and call me tomorrow.
rawdogg: Why did you never show Zion?
WachowskiBros: We're saving it for
Nebelis: What other projects did
the camera man work on and where did you find him?
WachowskiBros: If you mean Bill Pope,
he did our first movie "Bound" and the masterpiece "Army of Darkness".
Pill: Do you plan to write any books
WachowskiBros: There is a 'Making
Of' book that's coming out later this year.
virtualMatrix: Do you believe one
day, intelligent machines with AI will actually rule the world?
WachowskiBros: Yes. If they don't
AcesAreWild: Who Invented BULLET
WachowskiBros: The original concept
was ours, but the technical execution was by a company called Manex.
AgentMartin: Many take the make of
the Neb, "Mark 3, V.11" and quote it from the bible "Mark 3:11". Was this intended
or is it just the make and model of the Neb and nothing more subliminal than that?
WachowskiBros: The Nebuchanezzer
is indeed a biblical reference, from the book of Daniel.
linusa: Will you ever tell the history
of the Matrix in a novel?
Renxo: Are you doing any personal
NIKKI: Who unplugged Morpheus and
told him about the Matrix?
WachowskiBros: We hope to tell that
story in another medium one day.
Neotek: How much of an influence
was William Gibson in the production and design of this movie?
WachowskiBros: We're big fans of
William Gibson's work.
Ronin: Your movie has many and varied
connections to myth and philsophy, Judeo-Christian, Egyptian, Arthurian, and Platonic,
just to name those I've noticed. How much of that was intentional?
WachowskiBros: All of it.
That wraps the chat. On leaving, Larry and Andy had one more
WachowskiBros: Sorry we could only
get to 1 percent of your questions. We do appreciate all of your support. And
we'll see you in three years.