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US president Barack Obama, right, hosts a meeting with Turkish prime minister Tayyip Erdogan in the Oval Office of the White House in Washington, December 7 2009.
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Many experts say the resolution by the US house of representatives foreign affairs committee puts president Barack Obama in an awkward position. But many analysts also say that may be a temporary situation, because they don't expect the measure to be taken up by the full House of Representatives.
Historians agree Armenians were massacred by the Ottoman Empire - what was to become Turkey - during World War 1. But not all agree that it was genocide.
The Turkish government condemned the Swedish parliament's resolution, saying it was flawed and groundless
Turkey, which rejects the genocide label, has recalled its ambassador from Washington for consultations.
Turkey warns of repercussions if resolution is approved, while US president Barack Obama and Turkish counterpart Abdullah Gül discuss ‘bilateral issues’ on eve of vote.
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Welcomed by the EU and the US, the accord signed by Turkey and Armenia has no certain future in the signatory countries and has drawn sharp criticism from Azerbaijan.
Signing ceremony on October 10 2009 in Zurich was delayed by more than two hours when Armenia’s delegation protested against a statement that was to be read out by the Turkish representatives.
The agreement would further strengthen EU–Turkey aviation relations and would encourage traffic between the EU and Turkey, the European Commission said.
Greek prime minister George Papandreou called the deal 'a very satisfactory' move, while according to European Council President Herman van Rompuy, all the members of the euro zone said that they would be willing to participate in the mechanism.
One of those arrested is former international star Arif Erdem, who shot to fame in the 2000 European football championship by scoring the fastest international hat trick. He is seen as the most significant arrest in Turkey's match-fixing investigation.
International Monetary Fund will be a component in the financial safety net, according to reports quoting diplomats at the European Council summit in Brussels.
Greece must finance about 20 billion euro in April and May 2010 and Greek prime minister George Papandreou said he could request assistance from the IMF.
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This means that:
1) Since genocide is accepted as a reality for the Armenians, it will not be possible to discuss whether the 1915 events are genocide or not in the Sub-commission on the Historical Dimension mentioned in the Second Protocol. Therefore, the question arises of what this Sub-commission’s task will be.
In response, it has been expressed that its task will include the discussion of issues like returning back of Armenian properties left behind after the Armenian relocation, giving compensation to descendants of the relocated Armenians, and preserving Armenian monuments, such as churches, in Turkey. Turkey is not willing to re-examine these issues which have already been resolved with the Treaty of Lausanne.
2) By putting forth that some of the Turkish lands are in fact Armenian, Armenia indirectly claims a right over these territories. In other words, again indirectly, it does not recognize the border between the two countries.
I want to remind you that the main trigger which forced USA to join WWI was the letter sent by German Foreign Minister Zimmerman to Mexico offering support to Mexico to get back the Mexican states Arizona, Texas which had just been annexed by the USA.
Germany's claim on Zudetland and Gdansk just because they were its historical lands caused burst of World War II!
The World history is a history of wars which broke up because of territorial claims of states.
While territorial claims are so important to be reasons of war, it is not possible to understand the indifference of the USA to the Armenian claims as ally. Armenia and the US have a false conviction that under such a pressure, Turkey will be forced to ratify the protocols.
Adoption of the resolutions in the House of Representatives clearly will damage the US-Turkey relations. Whether it is brought to the House Floor does not change the negative feelings of the Turks against the American politicians including the president.
This will also push Turkey-Armenia relations which have already reached a deadlock to enter into an irreversible path and will harm the normalization process.
Rejection of the protocols by Turkey can even be possible.
This situation could harm Turkey, but will also harm the US and hinder the Turkey-Armenia relations.
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Every year prior to April 24, the Armenian lobby increases pressure upon the US President over the speech he will deliver. But the difference now compared to the previous years is that the aim of the considered resolution by the Foreign Affairs Commission is to corner Turkey into ratifying the protocols.
However, they are the Constitutional Court of the Republic of Armenia’s decisions which have brought the process to point of zero. Because:
The court stated that the protocols can not be interpreted or applied in a way that would contradict paragraph 11 of Armenian Declaration of Independence.
Article 11 of the Armenian Declaration of Independence of August 23, 1990 refers to Eastern Anatolia of Turkey as Western Armenia and as such beholds that this area is part of Armenia.
Since the Armenian constitution recognizes as a basis “the fundamental principles of the Armenian statehood in the Declaration of Independence of Armenia”, it likewise accepts the characterization of Eastern Anatolia as Western Armenia and this, albeit indirectly, translates into the advancement of territorial claims.
Additionally paragraph 11 also states that The Republic of Armenia stands in support of the task of achieving international recognition of the 1915 Armenian genocide in Ottoman Turkey and Western Armenia.
Armenians rebelled against the Ottoman Empire at their weakest time, during World War I. While the Turks were defending their capital Istanbul in Gallipoli against the British and French armada from April 1915 through 1916, the Armenians started wiping out Turkish villages like Van and Erzurum to help the invading Russian armies in Eastern Anatolia. Armen Garo wrote in his book "Why Armenia Should be Free", Boston, Baikar Press, 1918 that 200,000 Armenians fought on the side of the Russian Army in the Caucasus. This is more than the number of US soldiers sent to Iraq. Considering the total population of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire was 1.3 million it does not leave many innocent Armenians. How a total population of 1.3 million could yield 1.5 million killed is another mind boggling Armenian forgery.
Just like the US deported citizens of Japanese ethnicity during World War II, the Turks deported the Armenians away from the war zone. Mind you the Armenians had surely collaborated with the enemy, but the Japanese were only suspected of future collaboration.
Coincidentally, the Turks started to win the war, once the Armenians were deported from the war zone where they provided shelter for the 200,000 armed rebels. 95 years later, their descendants will illegally call their treason genocide and use vote hungry (if not donation hungry) politicians to pass such verdicts and expect Turks to continue feeding 100,000 illegal Armenians in their own country?
You can’t have your cake and eat it too!
Historical Truth is the Armenians fought a war against the Turks from 1878 to 1924 and lost. Any war sounds like a genocide if the dead of only one side is counted. Indeed, the UN definition of genocide excludes warring parties. If the Armenians had a case, they would try to pass a court verdict. Instead they are tapping vote hungry to gain a back door recognition.
The dead deserve respect. Turkey is trying to "save face". The past is no reflection on the present Turkish people. Do the right thing and accept the truth. A genocide did occur-and it was deliberate.
In Germany it's illegal to deny their national crimes.
In Turkey it's illegal to admit them.
This is the difference between Modern Europe's civilization, built on Christian values of repentance and inner search, and the Muslim world of black and white us and them.
Otherwise no one is immune of grave mistakes...
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The first genocide recorded in history was the Armenian genocide by the Ottomans. Modern Turkey denies what their fathers commited but the bones of the silent lay throughout eastern Turkey.
turkish government should admit truth, apologize and be done with it.
"Turkey, which now has a secular Muslim democratic government,"
How does "secular Muslim" work?
Turkey will have to get used to the truth. The truth is what should be known not the history they continue to re-write. Turkey should face the consequences and deal with it. This is needed to have open relations.
Example: nowadays, US and Germany have pretty normal relations after all that happened in WW2..