UFC 106 main card recap: Griffin victorious in split, Koscheck chokes Johnson

LAS VEGAS – After Tito Ortiz famously edged out Forrest Griffin in a 2006 split-decision win, "The Ultimate Fighter" winner immediately said he felt ready for two more rounds.

In the main event of Saturday night's "UFC 106: Ortiz vs. Griffin II" at Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Griffin got three.

In a repeat performance of the pair's original meeting, Ortiz looked sharp early, but Griffin claimed the momentum as time wound down. Only this time, Griffin finished the job.

Ortiz and Griffin opened the bout with a standing exchange, though the "Huntington Beach Bad Boy" took little time to return to vintage form. While Griffin's hands found their mark, Ortiz secured a double-leg takedown to take top position. Ortiz set up shop in a familiar position, but Griffin avoided taking much damage before using a kimura to sweep back to his feet.

Two more takedowns from Ortiz fell short, and the first round ended with both fighters staking a claim to the 10 points.

The second round saw both fighters appearing winded, but Ortiz was able to impose his will more effectively. Two successful attempts saw Griffin defending from his back, and Ortiz was able to utilize an elbow to open a gash on his opponent's face during the second trip to the canvas.

Griffin remained calm on his back, and a successful sweep from the butterfly guard saw him escape as the round closed. The technique also energized the increasingly pro-Griffin crowd, and the gritty fighter seemed to feed off the volume.

Ortiz appeared lifeless in the final frame. The former champion appeared content to defend the increasing volume of strikes from Griffin while looking for any opening he could find to shoot for the takedown. Those windows came on two occasions, but the results left much to be desired.

Griffin battered Ortiz over the final five minutes, though the defending fighter never appeared in any real danger of being finished. A high kick wobbled Ortiz briefly, but he made it to the final bell on his feet. Both fighters embraced in the center of the cage prior to claiming victory with upwardly raised arms.

As the pair lined up for the judges' decision, an eerily familiar split-decision result was issued. This time, Griffin earned the nod, 28-29, 30-27, 29-28.

The decision was met with some question from ringside observers, though the crowd in attendance cheered the result.

While Ortiz appeared shocked at the result, the decision sets up a potential rubber match between the two. And while the bout was met with a resounding lack of anticipation, the in-cage product could change the demand should the trilogy be completed in short order.

Griffin (17-6 MMA, 8-4 UFC) snaps a disappointing two-fight losing streak with the result, while Ortiz (15-7-1 MMA, 14-7-1 UFC) hasn't tasted victory in the octagon since an October 2006 win over Ken Shamrock.

At it's best, the welterweight contender matchup between Josh Koscheck and Anthony Johnson was full of tension as each fighter unleashed powerful blows that seemed destined to halt the fight. At its worse, the contest was a disappointing series of starts and stops necessitated by three separate eye-pokes.

Johnson looked to utilize his jab early while fending off multiple takedown attempts as Koscheck returned to his wrestling base. Johnson did well in the early going, and Koscheck was unable to work the fight to the floor. But the momentum was halted when a Johnson knee caught Koscheck from a kneeling position, and referee Mario Yamasaki was forced to call a break in action.

Koscheck collapsed to the floor despite the fact that the blow appeared to fall short of a direct hit. Replays revealed it was Johnson's right hand, which pawed for Koscheck's head after the blow, that struck his opponent's eye and caused the most damage.

Koscheck's left eye remained closed during the several-minute-long stoppage, and the remainder of the bout appeared in question as the cageside physician examined the eye. However, Koscheck proclaimed he was ready to continue, and the bout carried on.

An obviously irritated Koscheck attacked for the remainder of the round, and he briefly earned back position in the closing moments of the frame.

As the second round opened, an early combo left Johnson grabbing his eye, and replays showed an eye-poke from Koscheck was the culprit. A quick restart lead to a second instance of the infraction, and it was Koscheck's open-handed attempts to gauge distance that forced another stop in action.

The round's second restart saw an exciting clash of brief toe-to-toe striking, but Koscheck followed the wild flurry with a successful takedown attempt. Once on top, Koscheck mechanically worked toward the end of the bout.

With Koscheck dominating positioning from the top, Johnson survived underneath by maintaining half-guard. But short elbows from the top left Johnson looking for an escape route, and when he tried to turn away from the attack, Koscheck moved deftly to the back. Koscheck immediately looked to slip his left hand under Johnson's chin, and after some resistance, "Kos" was able to lock in the rear-naked choke.

The win was Koscheck's (14-4 MMA, 12-4 UFC) second-straight stoppage victory, and he immediately called out fellow contender Dan Hardy, though the Englishman is expected to book a date with Georges St-Pierre. Meanwhile, the loss closes the books on a three-fight win streak for Johnson (8-3 MMA, 5-3 UFC).

Thiago decisions Volkmann; Nogueira rocks Cane

After opening his run in the UFC by facing Koscheck and Jon Fitch, Brazilian submission wiz Paulo Thiago appeared to have finally caught a break in the promotion by facing newcomer Jacob Volkmann. While Thiago would eventually cruise to the win over "Christmas," the plodding pace of the fight was hardly worthy if its main-card slot.

Thiago did some of his best work on the feet, and Volkamnn looked a step behind in each exchange. The fight appeared over in the opening frame as a right hand dropped Volkmann to the floor. Thiago walked away in celebration, but the shot had come at the bell, and Volkmann recovered immediately.

Despite the striking advantage, Thiago appeared committed to the ground game as he engaged Volkmann often on the canvas. Once there, it was leaping punches into the guard that did the most damage for Thiago. The grappling resulted in nothing more than a stalemate of neutral positions, and it was a third-round D'arce choke by Volkmann that counted as the bout's only earnest submission attempt.

In the end, only the first round – won by Thiago – appeared a certainty. However, Thiago had done enough to take the fight by unanimous decision. With two scores of 30-27 and one of 29-28, judge Glenn Trowbridge was the only ringside attendant to award Volkmann a round – the second by a score of 10-9.

Despite earning the win, Thiago admitted he may have made an error in strategy as the fight wore on.

"I should've kept the fight standing," Thiago said. "I had him hurt in the first, but unfortunately the round ended."

Thiago (12-1 MMA, 2-1 UFC) improves to 2-1 in the UFC, though the performance did little to elevate his status in the UFC's welterweight division. Volkmann's (9-1 MMA, 0-1 UFC) loss was his first as a professional, though UFC matchmaker Joe Silva will have to determine of the Minnesotan did enough to warrant a second look in the organization.

Fighting in the UFC for the first time at 33 years old, many MMA observers felt Antonio Rogerio Nogueira had lost a step in the striking department.

Many MMA observers were wrong.

Facing what was supposed to be a dangerous, more aggressive striker in Brazilian countryman Luiz Cane, Nogueira used a quick, powerful left hand to punish his foe. An early left hook saw Cane literally run away to reset, but Nogueira kept the action moving. A second left landed on the money for Nogueira, and a third dropped Cane to the canvas in a heap.

Nogueira pounced to finish the fight with a few cursory blows that missed their mark, but referee Steve Mazzagatti was already on his way in to halt the contest at the 1:56 mark of the opening round.

Despite Cane's reputation as a fearsome striker, Nogueira said he felt the stand-up game presented his best opportunity.

"I learned his game," Nogueira said. "I know he's a very good boxer, and I respect him, but I trained a lot, and I wanted to keep is standing."

More than eight years after the 10-time PRIDE veteran debuted, Nogueira (18-3 MMA, 1-0 UFC) earned his first UFC victory with the stoppage. Nogueira now carries a five-fight win streak overall.

The loss snapped a three-fight win streak for Cane (10-2 MMA, 3-2 UFC). "Banha's" lone previous loss came via disqualification for an illegal strike.

Sadollah batters Barnoni

The heart of welterweight slugger Phil Baroni was on full display in the night's first main-card bout. Unfortunately for the "New York Bad Ass," his lack of lung power was also evident in his first UFC bout in four-and-a-half years.

"The Ultimate Fighter 7" winner Amir Sadollah weathered Baroni's early storm en route to delivering a one-sided, 15-minute shellacking of the 33-year-old slugger. Sadollah utilized a combination of leaping knees in the clinch, punishing front kicks to the gut and head, and constant low kicks that left Baroni's legs reddened and damaged.

Baroni's face didn't fare much better, and a pair of cuts drained across his head as time wore on.

Baroni made a case for taking the opening round – judge Tony Week ruled in the New Yorker's favor – with a successful takedown and a few punches that found their mark, but the second and third frame were unquestionably Sadollah's. Baroni fought with his hands near his waist as he loaded up and searched for a homerun shot. It never came, and Sadollah cruised to the unanimous-decision win.

Following the victory, Sadollah said the fight went as he had hoped.

"I knew I'd have to weather the initial storm against him," Sadollah said. "The guy would not go down.

"My strategy was to set him up with body shots. It felt good to get back on the winning track."

The win was Sadollah's (2-1 MMA, 2-1 UFC) first since claiming "The Ultimate Fighter 8" crown in June 2008 with a surprising win over C.B. Dollaway. Meanwhile, Baroni (13-12 MMA, 3-6 UFC) showed he can still endure as much damage as he did in his first run with the UFC, but he failed to prove he's still a viable contender on the world's biggest stage.

For complete coverage of the evening's preliminary card, see: UFC 106 prelim recap: Saunders drops Davis, Grove shocks Rosholt

OFFICIAL RESULTS
  • Forrest Griffin def. Tito Ortiz via split decision (28-29, 30-27, 29-28)
  • Josh Koscheck def. Anthony Johnson via submission (rear-naked choke) - Round 2, 4:27
  • Paulo Thiago def. Jacob Volkmann via unanimous decision (29-28, 30-27, 30-27)
  • Antonio Rogerio Nogueira def. Luiz Cane via TKO (punches) - Round 1, 1:56
  • Amir Sadollah def. Phil Baroni via unanimous decision (30-27, 30-27, 29-28)
PRELIMINARY CARD RESULTS
  • Ben Saunders def. Marcus Davis via knockout (knees) - Round 1, 3:24
  • Kendall Grove def. Jake Rosholt via submission (triangle choke) - Round 1, 3:59
  • Brian Foster def. Brock Larson via TKO (strikes) - Round 2, 3:25
  • Caol Uno vs. Fabricio Camoes declared majority draw (29-27, 28-28, 28-28)
  • George Sotiropoulos def. Jason Dent via submission (armbar) - Round 2, 4:36
For complete coverage of UFC 106, check out the UFC Events section of MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

(Pictured: Forrest Griffin)

John Morgan is the lead staff reporter for MMAjunkie.com.

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CoffinFIlla999 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:01 am ET
whoop whoop, great fights
 

immyaxl on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:37 am ET
(deleted, fighter bashing) Tito got screwed on the score cards and now we will watch another boring match between these two.
 

talkfromtoronto on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:09 am ET
first round could go either way. second round tito. third round 10- 8 forrest. either draw or 30-28 forrest. make a argument for different
 

peteypuffff on Nov 22, 2009 at 8:41 am ET
cry all you want about decisions but it's been a while since i have seen a decision that was flat out wrong, you may not agree but close rounds come down to a few points and something as small as the angle the judge saw the fight from will affect how he scores it. in this fight tonight i thought the first 2 rounds were close but i gave rounds 1 and 3 to forrest and round 2 i'd have to watch again because i saw it as a draw first time through.
 

johnhunt59 on Nov 22, 2009 at 9:52 am ET
If Tito would have come out to the third round ready to fight the results may have been different. The third round was a pathetic showing for Tito. If Forrest would have just stood there like Tito it would have looked like a staring  contest in the third. It looked as if Tito did'nt want to win or Forrest was supposed to win
 

VasyGSP on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:52 pm ET
Exactly!

Tito did NOTHING in the third round.  He didn't even attempt to punch or kick




This was one of the worst UFC events that I remember watching.
 

tbuck78 on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:18 am ET
How exactly were they great fights? Beside Amir and Phil
 

peteypuffff on Nov 22, 2009 at 8:53 am ET
did you miss the better portion of this night? amir and phil was a great war and it was great to see amir start taking him apart and watching phil just take the punishment and not go down. then you have little nog who put on an amazing display of hands and ended a very tough luis cane in the first round and that was great to see a new 205 pound contender. next was ben saunders putting on another clinch clinic and being the first guy ever to stop marcus davis and he did it in very impressive fashion, so thats 3 great fights in a row now. next fight was paulo thiago vs volkmann or whatever and that was a bit of a boring fight, those 2 never should have been on the main card anyways. next fight was grove vs rosholt and we got to see a great submission by grove. kos vs johnson was exciting right up to the end and i dont think anybody knew who would get the better of the standup but it ended up being a submission win for koscheck, so thats another exciting fight. and then they finished the night the same way it started, with a war of 2 wills and in the end the victor in both of them was the guy who took over the fight in the 3rd round and its nice to see guys who "won the fight" also get the nod from the judges.

it's pretty rare in MMA to have 1 single card where you can have multiple wars, multiple impressive KO/TKO finishes, and multiple submission wins and have them all shown on the PPV. this was a GREAT night of fights with only 1 somewhat boring fight on the entire card. if that wasnt a great night of fights in your book then you are either spoiled beyond belief, retarded, or you just didnt really watch the fights.
 

VasyGSP on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:54 pm ET
Overall it was a weak card.


Plus I don't see how you can say that Thiago vs. Volkmann was a boring fight.  If anything that was the most evenly matched fight of the night.
 

bludvn222 on Nov 24, 2009 at 12:20 pm ET
No Joke!  When I was preparing for these two guys to come on, i couldn't care less about either one of them so I just wanted it to be over quickly.  But, it was a real back-and-forth battle.  I thought it was VERY entertaining.
 

johnhunt59 on Nov 22, 2009 at 9:54 am ET
Phil Baroni is no better today than he was 10 years ago. I don't see him being in the UFC very log
 

fmf68 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:00 pm ET
How about that Brian Foster...Fricken awesome fight for him.
 

edosama1983 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:01 am ET
mma will die if they don't fix the scoring, fans will stop watching eventually

 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:41 am ET
You will. The rest wont. I didn't see any issues with the decisions. 
 

peteypuffff on Nov 22, 2009 at 8:55 am ET
thank you for saying it. the crybabies will leave and i say good riddance, the rest of us will stick around and continue watching amazing fights.
 

tlandry14 on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:44 am ET
I am not one who usually would disagree with you, however you honestly have no issue with one judge last night thinking that Forrest won all 3 rounds of that fight? Maybe I am missing something.
 

reyoh on Nov 22, 2009 at 9:29 am ET
Tito Fan huh?
 

fmf68 on Nov 22, 2009 at 12:56 pm ET
Not this fan so stop speaking for me..thank you very much...I will keep watching until the day I croak!
 

Whiskey712 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:01 am ET
Dana wasn't joking about that ring rust.
 

ThePsycho on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:02 am ET
Kos getting sub of the night is very pathetic. That should go to Kendall Grove, he was in trouble before he pulled out the impressive victory for that sub.
 

Taiter on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:05 am ET
agreed......KG deserves sub of the night.
 

peteypuffff on Nov 22, 2009 at 8:56 am ET
not even close... Sotiropoulos had the best setup and best finish of the night by a mile.
 

bludvn222 on Nov 24, 2009 at 12:21 pm ET
Whether you like Grove's triangle or Sotiropolous' armbar, which were both sweet imho, we can all agree that Kos did not deserve it.  Nuff said.
 

azsimp on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:07 am ET
+1
Technical submission should always trump a guy who gives up his back to end the punishment
 

NjShore145 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:13 am ET
Well then George Sotiropoulos should have gotten sub of the night. That was easily the most technical set up for a sub we witnessed tonight. That sh*t was slick!
 

azsimp on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:18 am ET
Just watched that... gotta give rogan props for the play by play on that call as well
 

ElChingon on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:15 am ET
I don't know if you know this Joe Rogan......but I know what an arm crunch is too!
 

bludvn222 on Nov 24, 2009 at 12:23 pm ET
still safe to say most don't.
 

TheGreatAwakening on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:30 am ET
Rogan was terrific tonight in my opinion. Particularly during that final progression.
 

cbchea on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:02 am ET
+1 Word! George has great jits. And he seems like a gentleman too, which is a nice touch for a pro fighter.
 

TheGreatAwakening on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:32 am ET
George or Kendall should definitely have gotten submission of the night. I'm really not sure how they determine these awards sometimes.
 

Danimal on Nov 22, 2009 at 9:05 am ET
Listen clowns, Kos got the sub of the night because of who he fought.  He fought a bigger, stronger guy and choked him out.  Rosholt gets choked out every other fight, and Dent was supposed to be an easy opponent for Boy George.  Everybody hates Kos and that's why no one wants him winning sub of the night.
 

ElChingon on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:09 am ET
Grove should have got sub of the night, Sotiropoulos looked good too.

Can't take anything away from Kos though, even if I was rooting for Rumble (and glad he made weight)

The prelims on Spike were great!  How bought Foster taking two illegal shots to the face and still beating Larson into submission, that's what this sport is all about!

Welcome to the UFC Little Nog, great win!  Can't wait to see who he fights next.  Maybe Griffin?

And finally.... Thank you Amir Sadollah for making Phil Jabroni eat his words.  Perhaps he shouldn't have had that beer before the fight.  Poor man's Josh Koscheck my ass.
 

CaptainCrunch on Nov 22, 2009 at 9:17 am ET
Gotta agree; technical sub trumps desperation escape gift. 
 

isbj on Nov 22, 2009 at 12:16 pm ET
I agree but I think the UFC only puts the bonuses up for main card fights. Unless the main card doesn't provide the outcome for the bonuses.
 

gunterm2009 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:03 am ET
great fights, any one know were post fights are . i thought u can watch them here, but cant seem to find them
 

Taiter on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:04 am ET
Tito crying after his loss was pathetic.  Don't fight if your hurt then.......tired of that dudes excuses.
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:32 am ET
Tito is the P4P excuse champion. You lost dude. take it like a man. 
 

PersianGodfather on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:02 am ET
Him and Karo should fight for the undisputed excuse champion lulllzz
 

Michael_C on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:04 am ET
I honestly didn't think Tito lost the two first rounds.  I could MAYBE have seen a 10-8 3d, but that would have been a stretch.  I saw Tito winning 29-28.  I was really disappointed in his post-fight cage interview with Rogan, though.  Reminded me of Tim Sylvia blaming losses on injuries, and you automatically think, 'oh c'mon.'
 

Taiter on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:07 am ET
Forrest throws a lot of punches but he never hurts anyone.  Both fighters are no where near top 10 in my opinion.
 

Roxinius on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:08 am ET
it was a 10-8 round tito did noting but shoot 2 bad take down attempts
 

edosama1983 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:10 am ET
can they even score a 10-8 round without deducting a point for something?
 

rainman84 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:14 am ET
Sure.  If someone dominates to the point that the other guy does absolutly nothing and gets his face beat-in in the process
 

Whiskey712 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:14 am ET
Yes there can be 10 - 8 if one fighter dominates a round.
 

edosama1983 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:17 am ET
have that ever happened? I never seen them scoring 10-8 before without a point deduction
 

mmainnukraine on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:22 am ET
i think Mir-Nog's fight first round was scored 10-8 Mir
 

edosama1983 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:24 am ET
um how would anyone know, that ended in stoppage, I don't think they give out scores if the fight was stopped.
 

mmainnukraine on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:32 am ET
yea  i know. thats why i said I think. Rogan called it 10-8, and i thought it was very justified. Anyway, why ask for opinions if u want to argue?
 

edosama1983 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:37 am ET
Rogen.. okay...

didn't realize he was a judge
 

Whiskey712 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:41 am ET
It's his opinion that it was a 10-8 round just like it's your opinion that Tito got robbed.

Forrest won, get over it.
 

peteypuffff on Nov 22, 2009 at 9:01 am ET
forrest won that fight and deserved to win, the problem here is that tito fans are bigger bitches than he is and they cant see how their injured pretty boy could possibly lose to the huge slow ogre looking white guy. as it turns out that ogre is pretty damn good at fighting and has gotten better since his loss to ortiz and even looked better than when he lost to silva so he's obviously been working hard.
 

Whiskey712 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:25 am ET
It happens alot in boxing which also uses a 10 point must system. It's a shame that we don't see it that much in MMA. If there was a case for a 10-8 round it would have been the last rounds of Tito vs Forrest and Baroni vs Sadollah.
 

Stoker789 on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:27 am ET
i think Khalib Starnes lost all 3 rounds 10-8.  an MMA first, can somone confirm?
 

John on Nov 22, 2009 at 7:54 am ET
Yeah, I think one judge scored it 30-24 for his marathon performance 
 

Nitestar on Nov 22, 2009 at 6:08 am ET
round 2 of Rampage vs Forrest was scorred 10-8 Forrest
one judge scorred Quary vs Starnes 30-24 Quary

it does happen from time to time
 

pawesome1 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:18 am ET
unfortunatly in mma you never see 10-8 or 10-7 unlesss someone is nearly killed. This should be taken up with state comisions,unfortionatly it will not even with major fan support.
 

WalterSobchak on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:59 am ET
Don't forget the remarkable Starnes-Quarry "fight" at UFC 83, in which one judge gave Quarry the fight 30-24. 10-8 rounds happen periodically, but I'm not aware (I'm sure someone will educate me, of course!) of any other fights in which all three rounds were scored 10-8.
 

TheGreatAwakening on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:49 am ET
I've believed for a long time that many more rounds should be scored 10-8 or 10-7. I think rounds that are currently scored 10-8- when someone dominates the entire round, generally scoring a knockdown, and nearly finishing the fight- should be scored 10-7. And I think rounds like tonight's third round between Griffin and Ortiz- where one fighter does virtually ALL of the attacking- should be 10-8.

Think about what this would mean. In a fight like Condit-Ellenberger, where Ellenberger knocked Condit down a handful of times and nearly stoopped him in round one, Ellenberger could receive a 10-7 score and win the fight 28-27 even if he loses two close rounds 10-9. Of course anytime a round is scored 10-8 before, between or after two 9-10 rounds the fight would be a draw. Lots of draws would not be good, clearly. But it's pretty rare to see one fighter earn what I consider a legit 10-8 round but lose the other two.

Having essentially one outcome of a round- the 10-9 score- is simply not adequate. It's VERY common for a 3 round fight to contain one or two very close rounds and one or two rather clear-cut rounds. Consider tonight's action. Round one of Johnson-Koscheck was razor thin and could have gone either way, while round two (should AJ have survived) was all Koscheck after the takedown. It doesn't make sense to score those two portions of the fight as if they were equal. Likewise in the Tito-Forrest fight, in my opinion Tito did enough to win rounds one and two, although it wasn't clear. Meanwhile Forrest dominated round three. That could EASILY been scored 29-28 for Tito- but he was not the more effective fighter. I think Griffin clearly outfought Ortiz in round three more than Ortiz outfought him in the first two rounds combined, and I believe the scoring should reflect that.
 

goodoleboy86 on Nov 22, 2009 at 12:36 pm ET
yes if u pay attention to the scoring system it says "the round winner gaining 10 points and the other fighter 9 points or less"
 

pbgrandad on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:16 am ET
Tito looked good first round, just like the first fight.  But he never looked new and improved.  3rd round he just looked like a punching bag.  Forrest hung in there, but really didn't show.  It was interesting to hear him say that Anderson broke him.  Coming back after that defeat was a big deal.  Good on you Forrest.  Now if we could lose the cartoon antics of the announcer things would be way better.
 

demac09 on Nov 22, 2009 at 11:26 am ET
how would 10-8 be a stretch for the 3rd round??? did you watch the 3rd round??? tito didnt land one punch, well maybe one and thats it, he did absolutely nothing. forrest could have gotten the 1st round as well as it was really close, everyone i was watching it with gave it to forrest even before we heard the final decision. forrest won that fight and i cant see how people can argue otherwise unless your a huge tito fan which i dont know how you could be anyway with how much of an (deleted) he is.
 

norcalfighter on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:05 am ET
Tito did really well considering he was out for 18 months.  The kos/Johnson fight was really entertaining.  Great card overall.  I was impressed by little nog as well.
 

pawesome1 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:05 am ET
great fights,but ortiz won the main event 2 to 1, i cant see how anyone saw it differently unless they are a forrest fanatic.
 

Roxinius on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:09 am ET
maybe if tito dint be come a punching bag in the 3rd he could have won but when u give up a round like that you dont deserve a win then to hear his bitch excuses after just validated the fact that hes a joke
 

rainman84 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:10 am ET
I saw it going either way.  It was all Tito till half way through the 2nd.  If it was possible to score the second round 9-9 then that's how I could have saw it.  Really could have gone either way.
 

kalmb4storm11 on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:01 am ET
halfway through?    forrest swept him with 30 seconds left.  hows that half way through?
 

mattyfive on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:39 am ET
anyone agree that kos was faking that eye injury? IMO he got hurt and scared and wanted the fight to end right their and then because he obvously didnt get hit anywhere near the eye, man do i ever hate that guy but i do agree i would love to see him fight hardy, Hardy would absolutely KILL kos and i would love to watch him do that.. Why would kos think he is anywhere near a title shot.. he just lost to Alves, Teagio, (spelling) and he allso recently lost to the reigning champ GSP  so IMO he might be a gate keeper but thats about it maybe he can fight huges next. 
 

peteypuffff on Nov 22, 2009 at 9:12 am ET
uhhhh... no.

whther what he said was the problem was real or not he got kneed while on the ground and got his time to recover, he then came back from that and whooped the sh*t out of johnson. and to say he is scared you obviously dont know the mental state of these top level fighters, they get nervous about performing and whatnot but they are not afraid of other men, and especially with kos, he has so many beasts in his camp im sure johnson wasnt scaring him 1 bit.
 

pawesome1 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:06 am ET
little nog was also awesome.
 

Taiter on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:09 am ET
Yes he was.....I'd love to see him fight Forrest next..........Forrest is the king of getting fighters when they aren't 100%.  When they are at 100% he gets fed.
 

pawesome1 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:12 am ET
tito should have rematch, lil nog should fight winner of couture/coleman for title shot
 

azsimp on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:21 am ET
wow, under that scenario, Machida or Shogun could have to defend the LHW belt vs. Marc Coleman... NOT!
 

pawesome1 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:27 am ET
coleman is not in title contention. If couture wins he is
 

MM1160 on Nov 22, 2009 at 7:33 am ET
what is it with you people wanting to give little nog a title shot...he has done zero except beat an over hyped cane and now you want to put him in with couture winner and...magic, he is the man. Get a clue.
 

tlandry14 on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:49 am ET
Agreed. He needs to win a couple more fights before even being considered. My question is that is he another one who will not fight Machida if he was to hold on to the belt? Would Silva corner him in that fight like he did last night? I am just afraid that we will have another Kos/Swick/Fitch situation on our hands with Silva/Machida/Lil Nog if they are all at LHW.
 

gaucho on Nov 22, 2009 at 8:43 pm ET
dude , sorry to say but you are plain stupid!! how can you call Cane over hyped?? he is one of the most underrated guys in the division. He is definitely top 10. Lil Nog is easily top 5 with Shogun, Machida, Thiago Silva and possibly Evans. By the way, Evans will get KTFO'd by Silva.
 

DonKeyKongKO on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:08 am ET
Junkie - is Post-fight press conference going to be on here?
 

chunkyass on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:23 am ET
Yea I would like to watch that as well. I stayed up late for 105 and it never came on.
 

1hokiefan on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:42 am ET
check out ufc.com for the post fight stuff
 

pawesome1 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:10 am ET
Paulo Thiago sghould have a shot over kos seeing as he has the vic over kos.
 

ShadowInq on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:11 am ET
I don't think Tito won the fight at all.  I was surprised it was a split decision, honestly.  Tito won round 1, round 2 either way leaning towards forrest, round 3 forrest dominated.
 

pawesome1 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:15 am ET
OK, I respect your opinion, I still can't see forrest by 30-27
 

BrandedToKill on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:23 am ET
I say 29-28 all the way for Forrest. You might even be able to say the 3rd was a 10-8 round.
 

pawesome1 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:25 am ET
I doent see it that way, but I respect you're view. I ssaw it 29-28 tito
 

azsimp on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:11 am ET
What 106 showed:
Lil Nog is for real.
Ben Saunders will win matchups where he can use his reach... and lose ones where he cant.
Anthony Johnson's eyes must beg to be poked
Brian Foster is for real
 

DonKeyKongKO on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:13 am ET
And Tito lies
 

azsimp on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:17 am ET
hehe

I guess i shoulda said what I learned that was new... knew that about tito
 

inacage on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:17 am ET
And Kos forgets which eye he is trying to fake getting poked in.
 

rainman84 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:22 am ET
So true.  Rumble had some great momentum to that point too.  His own fault for throwing a stupid knee like that though.
 

Weekendgolfer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:58 am ET
I totally called that out while watching the fight. Great point.  Alright guys, long time reader but I hardly ever post.  You guys are about to get an ear full.


First off. I love MMA and honestly watch almost every card, but I am starting to get perturbed about some things.  Is this the new WWF?  I am sorry but some of the things that have been happening in the UFC lately are very off.  Some of the judging calls are very controversial. Forrest Vs Rampage, Machida vs Rua, Hamil vs Bisping.  Other things that bother me are fights like tonight's main event.  IMO I saw a very average fight.  It almost seemed as if Tito honestly did not want to win the fight in the 3rd round.  Also what bothers me is how controversial it was.  Tito scored points on the take downs in the first and second round and did do a little bit of ground and pound damage, but honestly, not much.  So Tito gets those points so the announcers talk as if he is amazing with his takedowns.  I personally saw the weakest double leg take downs ever, but somehow he managed to take Forest down rather easily.  It is like they said alright "go out there and take him down in the first and second and do not mount any sort of offense in the 3rd round."  Even if those take downs were not staged, it is ridiculous that Forest could not stop them.  It certainly shows that neither fighter is a contender at all.  Forest should train knees.  If I was Forrest's corner I would be screaming when he comes in for the take down throw a hard knee.  Even if you miss you are only going to get taken down, and Frankly he has taken you down almost every time anyways.  Forrest possibly could have got his one you tube hit KO.  I just do not know. 

Second off.  Everything is about marketing these days.  Hardy for title shot at GSP? Joke. I am not a fan of KOS but I am glad he called Hardy out.  Hardy is a decent fighter, but he is not worthy to even sign autographs next to GSP. He has not fought Alves, Kos, Johnson, Daley, or even a few others.  He has won via decision to a good, but overrated, Mike Swick, and Marcus Davis, who is a good fighter and I enjoy watching, but that's just the thing: I did watch tonight and he got folded like a bad hand in a high stakes game of poker, like a lawn chair at a BBQ.  He is not a stepping stone to prove you are ready for GSP.  Also talking about being able to market fighters, how about the fighter's salaries?  Anderson Silva is talked about as P4P best and he gets paid less than some other fighters who he has beaten and are not even champions.  How about Paulo Thiago? They have completely fed him to the wolves as if trying to kill him off. Also, do not even get me started on the Frank "Murr" vs Kongo fight.  I can see it now, overhyped and whoever wins is all of a sudden a legit contender again.  Also the Randy vs the hammer.... sweet baby Jesus I guess the winner of the fight is the one who does not sh*t his depenz first. 

Third off.  I read on the site the other day and one of you stated you could hear it now about Tito and his excuses... you said " Man, it is tought coming out here, training every day, putting your heart on the line for the fans and coming up short.  You know I was injured, but that
s just the thing, I do it for my fans, I do it for you guys."  I about sh*t my pants during the post fight interview because it was like Tito read what you posted and said it verbatim.  Also another funny note, the commentary... I believe Joe Rogan at one point tonight said Forrest Griffin has very underrated JJ. It is not underrated. It is rated exactly where it should be.  When has Forest ever finished a fight, much less via submission? Rua and Bill Mahood... Bill MaWHO?  Not to mention he finished Rua with a read naked choke.  I am pretty sure your average short bus rider knows what a rear naked is... not exactly elite level JJ.  Anyways, thanks for the laugh Rogan.   Another circus act was that clown KOS trying to sell that knee by acting like his left eye was hurt when the knee would have hit the right.  Weak Sauce. 

Anyways guys, sorry for the long post. I just figured since I do not post very often I would get my name out there and maybe get some free tix to StrikeForce.  :)
 
 

EdoKaz818 on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:44 am ET
Get to forums man =D
 

NjShore145 on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:47 am ET
Agreed!
 

Weekendgolfer on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:57 am ET
Thanks bro.  I will remember your name.
 

rwilkie on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:15 am ET
you seem like a pretty smart guy and u watch the fights closely but bashing Forrest Griffins BJJ, did you not pay attention to that Butterfly guard? that sweep? the way he used the kimura to stand back up? and to all you bashing Tito, he is right how many of you would step into the ring with injuries? not one of you. These guys train harder than any of you have ever trained in your life. Stop bashing fighters like that you guys have no respect for the sport you seem to love.

MMA junkies?? ya right u guys are a bunch of whiney spoiled brats.

and as for Josh Koscheck, when he beats Alves he deserves a title shot until then ya right.
 

Weekendgolfer on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:57 am ET
I am not bashing Forest's JJ, I am simply stating that he is not amazing as JJ.  He did utilize some JJ last night to get him out of tough spots, but you are never going to see him slide in a triangle from the bottom.  Slick JJ award goes to that guy who fought Paulo Thiago.  He let Thiago pass his guard and then slipped in the Darce choke from the bottom.  Now that was nice, and shows underrated JJ.  I like Forest man, I was pulling for him to beat Tito's ass last night, just thought that his JJ is decent not great like Rogan was saying. 

Also, Tito?  I am sorry, but if all you EVER do is make excuses then just go fight in Strike Force.  He comes in with a black eye and says he has a fractured skull?  Is there not some sort of pre fight check up to make sure the fighters are ok to fight?  If so, then they checked him and told him he was ok to fight, which tosses excuses out the window. I do not train for UFC, you are right.. but I also dont talk a whole lot of sh*t and then spend 5 minutes feeding everyone excuses.  We know how hard they train.  sh*t, how many people forced out of fights this year?  If anything they need to tone the training down a notch.  Not like it really help Tito much, he appeared to have the worst cardio I have ever seen from him.
 

timbo12 on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:49 am ET
i think you are over thinking everything and digging too deep for nothing......just enjoy the fights and shut up....sometimes they'll be great, and sometimes they'll be boring.....thats life
 

BillPapabear on Nov 22, 2009 at 8:55 am ET
Weekendgolfer GET off the  band wagon of tampon wearing pu$$Ys. This is MMA NOT WWE and the initials are WWE not WWF. Moran! 

You want to leave comments? Try proof reading first and foremost. Leave accurate details not copy and paste comments. You just added a bunch of fluff so it looks long and said VERY little.

MMA is not a predetermined show. It is a fight. Have you not seen the knockouts? Judges see the fight their way and I don't like most judges decisions myself, which is why you knock the person out, or submit them. Never leave it to the judges. It just doesn't happen every time no matter who you are and how many fights you have finished.
 
Joe Rogan has the ability to call fights he has fought himself and so he made a mistake in calling one fight tonight. This is live not predetermined reading from a cue card. Get over it he is human and made a mistake.

Your comment about Randy.....Get in the Octagon with him or Mark and you will be the one SH*Ting in your depends.

Leaving a long post doesn't prove anything about you. Calling a fight as it happens....Even blind dogs get the bone occasionally. But opinions are like aholes. they all stink and some people use theirs differently.
 

Michael_C on Nov 22, 2009 at 11:03 am ET
"Moran!"  Oh, BillPapabear (I need to go wash the *** off of me just for typing that stellar screen name), if you are going to call someone stoopid then you might want to spell check your posts, otherwise you just come off looking like an ideot.  
 

Weekendgolfer on Nov 22, 2009 at 11:05 am ET
+1
 

tlandry14 on Nov 22, 2009 at 11:14 am ET
You look like more of an idiot. For one, just commenting about a posters spelling. And two, besides Moran what word is spelled wrong in his entire post?
 

Weekendgolfer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:08 pm ET
Is he your boyfriend or something?  It does not matter how many words he spelled wrong in his post.  He was acting like a jerk and calling people stupid, yet he can not even spell moron.  So, who is stupid?
 

Weekendgolfer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:15 pm ET
Is he your boyfriend or something?  It does not matter how many words he spelled wrong in his post.  He was acting like a jerk and calling people stupid, yet he can not even spell moron.  So, who is stupid?
 

tlandry14 on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:25 pm ET
The answer is no he is not. And to answer your question.... it would be you. I decided that after just rereading your book of a post.
 

Michael_C on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:24 pm ET
Nahhh, man, I don't look like an idiot.  I was just joshin' a little bit.  No need to get all agro on me.  It wasn't so much about posting about his spelling, it was that he was calling someone out for being a ding-dong, and then misspells the noun used to do it.  You can see the humor in that, can't you, bro?  And I was just throwing his own point back at him, by telling him to spell check, or proof read, as he put it.  I apologize if all that was a little over your head.
 

tlandry14 on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:32 pm ET
I understood completely what you were doing. I am sorry but I have just gotten to a point where I find any spelling comments on here completely obnoxious. Including his proofreading comments. I am sure that most people do not spellcheck their posts before hitting enter. It is a classic thing to do when someone has no intelligent response to an opinion, lets just pick on their spelling. Bush league.
 

Michael_C on Nov 22, 2009 at 6:44 pm ET
Dude, you are not hearing me.  It was the irony of his misspelling.  'Oxy-moranic/moronic' to totally blast-post the not-so-hidden meaning of my first post.  Look what you have made me done?!  All these damn hyphens and slashes 'n sh*t.  Dude, I am no English major, I was just throwing it back in his face that he totally assaulted that guy for no reason, and came off like an arse.  I thought what I wrote was pretty witty, in fact.  I'm Ron Burgundy?
 

Michael_C on Nov 22, 2009 at 6:49 pm ET
And for the record, I was the first to mention the possibility of a 10-8 round, and it spurred several replies and comments.  So, it isn't like I don't have anything intelligent to add.  And, dude, they are just message boards.  If they really get you that down, then simply push away from the computer and go watch HD Net for a little bit.  They have good fights.
 

Weekendgolfer on Nov 22, 2009 at 11:04 am ET
haha, touchy are we?  First off, never tell someone to proof read their comments when you can not put together sentences or spell moron* :)  Second off, I am not saying every single fight is rigged.  I think to rig Forests fight with Anderson all they had to do was get him to sign to fight. :)  That in and of itself was setting Forest up for a beat down.  Also, I love Joe Rogan... just thought that was funny and figured I would point it out.  I wouldnt know it is WWE sh*t because I am not a tool like yourself and actually watch that crap.  You should probably keep your comments inside your head where they do not allow everyone on here to remember your name for being a dumb ass.
 

Longfist9 on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:40 am ET
Heres a thought - save your moronic essays for Golf forums and pro wrestling sites, go hit a little ball real far and then walk after it and try to find it, repeat ad nauseum until you find a hole. when you get to the hole stick your head in it.
 

Weekendgolfer on Nov 22, 2009 at 11:07 am ET
you should do the same, except that hole you should stick your head in is your ass.  Oh wait, it appears your head is already in your ass.. maybe you should come out for a breather once and a while.
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:34 am ET
Tito is the same Tito excuse maker that he was before. 
 

Taiter on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:36 am ET
you got that right!
 

sinabomb on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:13 am ET
What is wrong with these judges? How could one of the judges score the fight 30-27 for Griffin. First Rua gets hosed and now Tito. Rubber match time i guess.

 I understand fighting hurt but with bulging discs or a broken foot is insane. I have a feeling that some of the fighters are scared to bail on fights in fear that Dana is going to kick them out or publicly chastise them. 
 

irunthis on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:15 am ET
Tito didn't get hosed at all, the only round he won was the 2nd.  The 1st could've gone either way, depending on how one judges a fight.  The 3rd, forrest dominated.

Tito/Forrest will most likely garner the FOTN.
KOTN I would give to Saunders or Nog.
SOTN, PERSONALLY, I give to sotiropolous, that armbar was sick.
 

edosama1983 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:16 am ET
I think there should be some accountability for judging, I think each judge should explain why did they score the way they did, it's getting to a point where if you don't finish anything goes...
 

pawesome1 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:23 am ET
What mma fans have to do is send BUISNESS LETTERS,and I mean tiped letters sent through te mail to the athletic comissions. Otherwise nothing will change.
 

joshyboy708 on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:41 am ET
No...its actually getting to the point where whenever there is a close decision, whiny mma elitist fans will come on here and cry about how their pick got screwed and how mma judging is corrupt.  I had it 29-28 for Forrest.
 

MARCUS_THE_GREAT on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:19 am ET
Great night of fights!! forrest did alright against a rusty tito! but MAN was I im pressed with kos! after the knee?eye poke i thought he was done for sure but he man handled Rumble and i agree with kos,Dan hardy could not beat Kos and i Dont think he could beat Anthony Johnson either!!!


I'm also very Impressed with lil nog!! he pummeled luiz cane and cane is no joke,especially on his feet and lil nog gave him the bussinazz!! hopefully he can heat up the LHW division,get it back to it's former Glory!!!
 

BrandedToKill on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:20 am ET
KOS is a punk for the knee that didn't even hit him and good 'ol Tito with the excuses. Great night of fights though.
 

zomb13 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:39 am ET
From what I saw Kos got grazed with AJ's right thumb in the left eye prior to the knee shot over his right eye. His eye was swollen and closed, you can't fake that imo. It would have been total BS not to let Kos recover from that and have the fight end on a very questionable non-call of the eyepoke and/or illegal knee. Kudos to Kos for hanging in there and putting the finish on AJ. Too bad more eyepokes against AJ came into the situation. While I was watching that fight I was thinking "man, Dan Hardy should NOT get a shot over either of these two guys" and I'm glad Kos called him out.
 

mmainnukraine on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:21 am ET
Damn some people will just complain every chance they get.

30-27 forrest was of course bullsh*t and i bet Cecil Peoples was scoring it. but the only round where Tito clearly won was 2nd and even there Forrest got a cool hip escape and had tito eating some elbows (granted they were weak but still)  3rd Rd is all Forrest.

Lil' NOg should get KO of the night bonus and Grove (i hate to say it) should get sub of the night.
 

NjShore145 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:30 am ET
I'll say it again. George Sotiropoulos easily should have won sub of the night. That was some serious BJJ that you usually can only pull off against lesser skilled training partners. He almost had a move that is rare enough to never be seen in the UFC but transitioned it to an armbar. It was a clinic and I think it was the most impressive sub of the night.
 

mattyfive on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:47 am ET
how could tito bitch about the decision when he did nothing in the third round but get punched in the face, if he fought back even just a little i think he would have won that fight, he lost because he quit simple as that
 

NjShore145 on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:02 am ET
Calm down guy! I didn't even mention that fight at all.
 

BadBoy39 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:22 am ET
yea forrest! i knew my boy had this one. and of course tito cry baby had his excuses...tito knew he lost...IMO i thought it shudda been unanimous griffin...but oh well. KOTN shuuda been saunders. FOTN griffin/crybaby. SOTN sostropulis...that armbar was beautiful...tho i was going nuts when KOS choked out AJ...and i personally think kos wud f***ing KILL hardy if they fought. kos is no freakin joke
 

MARCUS_THE_GREAT on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:22 am ET
Amir sodolla looked good against baroni!! and i have to give baroni credit he took a beating Espicially on the legs and hung in there to go all three rounds!!Amir really switch's his strking up and i was impressed, i figured he would take sub of the night but he just banged it out!!!!
 

pawesome1 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:29 am ET
He was fighting BARONI.
 

MARCUS_THE_GREAT on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:31 am ET
yeah and Baroni can end a fight with 1 punch! amir looked good and there must be a reason the ufc Invited Baroni back.
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:36 am ET
Baroni got finished in the 1st round in Strikeforce. Amir didn't look great because he should have finished the fight. 
 

EdoKaz818 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:42 am ET
Why take the risk? Amir was knocked out his last fight so he obviously seemed hesitant in doing so. Dont get it when you can emply and use ur strategy and if it works then go with it. Obviously his strategy though the first 2 and half rounds was to bruise and batter Baroni. He tried to finish in the last round but was to a little to late. Baroni has powerful hands also if u didnt forget. Beautiful strategy by Amir
 

OptimusCrime on Nov 22, 2009 at 5:30 am ET
@Snake

Baroni has never been finished in the 1st round in Strikeforce. Shamrock beat him the 2nd round with a RNC and he went the distance with Riggs in their fight. You might be thinking of when Villasenor TKO'd him in the 1st round in Elite XC.
 

muaythaimike on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:26 am ET
Great fights but I am really starting to think that the judging favors wrestlers.  And how did Tito win a round? HE WAS A PUNCHING BAG FOR THREE ROUNDS!!!
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:38 am ET
I would give him the 1st.
 

lightsoutt on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:27 am ET
I love all the useless talk of two fighters who aren't worth anything in the mix of world competition. Forest and Tito hilarious! Sweet victory for lil nog -you the man-. Next fight should be lil nog vs tito and forrest handicap match.
 

EdoKaz818 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:28 am ET
Tito didnt win the fight but he also didnt lose every round. Judging needs to be fixed or MMA will crash and burn. Forrest won clearly 29-28 specially with that dominant 3rd round. The first is a toss up but the second was Titos. Either a Draw or Forrests fight.

Either get the judging fixed, or add 5 rounds to ranked fights or expect MMA to go downhill and burn. yahoo sports is going to have a field day with MMA again I bet.

AJ got destroyed and toyed around with by koscheck in every aspect showing AJ is overrated. Showing that technique and skill overcomes size and strenght.

Amir showed an important part of MMA off and that was strategy. He knew what he had to do to beat Baroni and he did it. He knew Barni can end the fight any minute with a huge punch gassed or not. So he kicked and punished Baroni with out risking anything. Amir also showed he has a great chin by taking Baronies punches.

George Needs to fight some bigger names hes an impressive fighter with a 4-0 UFC record

I say fans need to decide who gets FOTN and Sub of the night.

Thankfull i didnt pay for the fights well it cost me $6  =)

 

pawesome1 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:30 am ET
I could not agree more!!!
 

MARCUS_THE_GREAT on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:33 am ET
I Agree!!!!
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:37 am ET
I DON'T AGREE. NO Machida v. Shogun decisions. Tito looked like he hadn't fought in 18 months. He lost. 
 

EdoKaz818 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:38 am ET
Im complaining about the 30-27 round i dont see how you would get specially since Tito was pounding Griffens face in the 2nd
 

edosama1983 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:41 am ET
10-9 9-10 10-8 I guess

 

MickG on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:23 am ET
Edosama1983 - Your suggestion makes sense for how Tito ended up with only 27, but Forrest could not have scored his 30 points that way.
The only way Forrest scores 30 - 27 is if he is given all three rounds.

Regardless if you thing Tito or Griffin won the fight, I haven't seen anyone here say that they really think Forrest won all 3 rounds.

30-27 is a joke, there's no explanation for that....if that score reads 29-28, there's probably a lot less controversy, since you can make the case
Forrest won the fight.
 

deathtodana on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:48 am ET
dont you mean ufc sports
 

EdoKaz818 on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:52 am ET
lol funny how they dont have it labled as the MMA section but the UFC. nice catch
 

strikehard on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:34 am ET
The little respect I had  for KOS I lost. He had no contact with the eye he was holding. Then it looked like an intentional eye poke to AJ's eye. He will never be the champion and he deserves no shot at GSP. He will be dominated just like the first fight. You are a bitch KOS. Stick to the lower end fighters!!!!!!`
 

NjShore145 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:37 am ET
Yeah he should stick to the lower end fighters like "Rumble" who he just destroyed. I'm sure you were calling for Johnson to get a title shot after this fight. He got beat by a better fighter hands down.
 

EdoKaz818 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:39 am ET
Lets not forget AJ didnt make weight last fight I dont think he deserves much respect himself anyways.
 

strikehard on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:48 am ET
no AJ didnt feserve a title shot but seriously kos cheated. He got rocked and faked an eye injury come on man KOS will never be the champ and you know it. Anthony will avenge his loss unless KOS eye pokes him to death. LOL. His next fight will be against Thiago Alves and he will LOSE again111111
 

mr_soabchek on Nov 22, 2009 at 4:19 am ET
how did he get rocked? the knee happened right at the end of a scramble...... I don't dispute that it could have been fabricated, just that it was an attempt to recover from this mystery punch you are suggesting took place.

 

zomb13 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:47 am ET
Within 2 seconds he got grazed in the left eye and kneed above the right. Not saying Kos wasn't trying to "sell" it for the stoppage, but even the attempt at landing a knee to the face like that by AJ was a seriously dangerous move and you can't seriously say Dan Hardy is more deserving of a shot than Kos at this point right?
 

crunchy on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:39 am ET
what did tito say after the fight? I didn't get to watch it
 

muaythaimike on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:47 am ET
He whined about a cracked skull and his back surgery and i am not kidding
 

muaythaimike on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:39 am ET
Judging definitely needs to be changed!! I don't think its fair that if you get your a$$ beat for three or five rounds but had more takedowns you should win. Also Kos looked like he got kneed in the forearm which was flush against his head/eye. So it still probably hurt... but in the end

Division 1 all american > JUNCO #1
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:43 am ET
AKA got the win. Don't hate.
 

Karate-Dohhh on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:41 am ET
Lil Nog a top contender, Anderson too, Lyoto still the champ, Big Nog back on track.....this is the Black House Era people!  (My god does Forrest need to work on strength training, can he knock anyone out other than that Elvis guy!?)
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:42 am ET
Aldo is kinda of a partner with them now. So, yeah Blackhouse it the sh*t.
 

muaythaimike on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:46 am ET
Anybody else a little surprised Brock Larson lost another fight in the UFC... He looked like such a beast in the WEC. Him and Condit haven't faired well with the transition into the UFC
 

EdoKaz818 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:49 am ET
IMHO I think the UFC exposed them, most if not all the WEC transitioned fighters all went pretty south.
 

muaythaimike on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:51 am ET
Its just makes you think about how drastic the dropoff in performance was and its still a Zuffa fight promotion
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:49 am ET
He got beat up bad. I kinda felt bad for him. He got handle bad. 
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:49 am ET
He got beat up bad. I kinda felt bad for him. He got handle bad. 
 

troutki on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:49 am ET
Great night of fights. A card that didn't look so good delivered. Kos had a great gameplan and staked claim to the GSP/ Hardy winner. Outside of some very weak takedown defense, Forrest did what he needed to do to win. Tito looked just a tick slow on his striking and would have been easily outclassed by someone with dynamite in their hands. Always the character, but not sure if he will ever get back to that level where he can contend in the top 5 in any class.
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:52 am ET
I spent a week trying to argue with people that a belt match doesn't always mean the card is going to be great. The fighter match ups make the card. UFC 106 proved me right. It just looked like one of those cards that sneaks up on people. 
 

delawaremma on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:53 am ET
do these damn press conferences ever work? i swear no matter where i try to find them they never turn on...
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:03 am ET
I just wait for tomorrow when they're online. Never works. 
 

coreymb on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:54 am ET
I'm a little confused on the judging again. I know there will always be questions but I don't see how Tito didn't win the first two rounds 10-9 a piece. I had Forrest winning the 3rd 10-9.

In favor of Tito obviously. But, let's just say judges gave Forrest a 10-8 for the 3rd. It should of been a draw then.

I have no clue how Tito should of not got 10-9 on the first two rounds. And while Forrest did dominate the 3rd it was in no way a 10-7.

Other than that all around great night of fights. IMO even with the loss Tito looked pretty good considering everything. Forrest was champion just not long ago beating the likes of Rua and Rampage back to back and then losing to Evans and Silva(no shame). I'd say Tito is back and I hate to say it but there will probably be a rubber match between these two to settle it all.
 

mmainnukraine on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:46 am ET
cmon man..

I had forrest winning 1st and 3rd. 1st was close but i think Forrest edged it out. he was doing better on the feet and only time Tito took him down, tito couldnt do anything and forrest got back up and was outstriking him again. You cannot give Tito the  round on the basis of one takedown with no dammege following...

and i think Tito looked like crap. granted he came from Layoff but he said that he doesnt have injureis and he's back to his old form blahblahblah. He had all the tools to beat Griffin who has a suspect Chin and cant survive an onslaught of GNP wich Rashad proved. Tito has titanium chin and great wrestling, he shouldof put Forrest on his back anytime he wanted. if he had problems and lost to Forrest, he will never sniff a title again, mark my words.

p.s can u belive he had an exuse one minute after the fight? he reminds me of Karo
 

NjShore145 on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:53 am ET
I was really surprised that he came out with an immediate excuse. The whole pre-fight hype was that Tito was 100% and 1 minute after he loses he has a new back injury and a cracked skull?

He should have blamed it on ring rust and gone on his way. This is why people hate him. The excuses don't cut it anymore and I'm a Tito fan.
 

mmainnukraine on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:28 am ET
he shouldnt make exuses at all. If you arent 100 percent than dont fight. if you choose to fight dont complain afterwards. its just like BJ and Karo. no matter what happens they have tons of exuses lined up. he was slippery, i cant get licensend. blahblahblah. i know why Tito lost 3rd round so badly. he was allready coming up with an exuse and thas why his mind was occupied lol
 

coreymb on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:30 pm ET
the first was close but I still gave it to Tito.

Third was all Forrests. But, for a judge to give it 30-27 to Forrest is ridiculous!! That guy and Cecil could be friends!

I think Tito was impressive. Forrest not long ago was a lhw champion beating Rua and Rampage and then losing to Evans and Silva(no shame). Tito hung around for his first fight in over a year and a half. You can train your ass off all you want but the ring rust was there and the conditioning wasn't there. Nomatter what he said we should of all known his conditioning wouldn't of been there. You can't just have that long of a layoff and come in the ring and be ready for a 3 round war--you just can't train for a real 3 round fight any way you put it.

Yeah I hated the exuses but it's Tito! I kinda expected it sadly! You either hate that guy or love him.

I don't really like Tito or Forrest but was rooting for Tito because of everything and he's the only guy besidedes for Rua to get Machida in a bad spot!
 

kalmb4storm11 on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:59 am ET
number 1.  koscheck faked getting poked in the eye by johnson cause johnson was gonna bring the pain.  2. tito should have won that fight even though he fought like crap in the third round.  ufc and judges are gonna push people away.  kg deserved sub of the night and it was nice to see little nog knock out cane.
 

badboy783 on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:00 am ET
You guys rag on tito for his excuses and I get that.  But Seriously he looked like a guy who's wasn't in fight shape.  They guy started training in June, and not training for Forrest, before that he was on the shelf for what almost a year not doing anything.   The bulging disk is questionable but the eye looked for real, it was a shiner up high and to the inside and I'm sure if it's really cracked then we'll hear about it. 

Seriously what would you guys have said if a week before the fight Tito backed out?  Or if Forrest backed out with a broken foot for that matter? 

This was a lose lose situation for both fighters.  If Tito would have won everyone would say it's b/c Forrest is finished and not a good fighter.  Forrest wins and now it's b/c Tito is garbage. 

IMO Tito looked good after 18 months without a fight and 16 months without a training camp.   I think he's come a long way considering all the time off and given the fact that he was puking after hitting the bags and training with Freddie.  This isn't a bad loss for him and if they fight again I think Tito will win. 
 

WalterSobchak on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:06 am ET
Good comment. I appreciated Forrest's stepping up to the mike while the audience was booing Tito's "excuses" as well.

I'm not a fighter, just a fan, and I appreciate the courage and toughness of the guys who step into the ring for our entertainment. I'd like to try to view Tito's post-fight interview in a more positive light. Rather than seeing his comments as "I would have won except for my injuries," I'd like to think he was trying to say, "I overcame a lot to do this for the fans." Maybe Tito was just making excuses. But I'd like to think he was trying to make a connection with the fans by telling them why he showed up despite his injuries.

In any case, it's apparent that the attempt to make that connection was unsuccessful. I'm not a fan of his, but I congratulate him for his effort, and for making the fight competitive enough that people are debating whether the decision was correct.

 

Longfist9 on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:55 am ET
He would have never been alowed to fight with a skull fracture - its another sad Tito excuse.
 

TheKnow on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:03 am ET
I am so jealous of Cecil Peoples.  I'd love to get paid sit ringside and glance over at the fight between bong hits, then just right down some random scores at the end of the fight.
 

They_call_me_MrTibbs on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:03 am ET
george sotiropolous should have got sub of the night. it was a good technical display and a good back and forth between him and dent.
 

troutki on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:05 am ET
As far as the discussion goes about Kos deserving a title shot over Hardy goes...no disrespect to Hardy but he has about the same shot that Serra had...just a punchers chance. This may be the most lopsided defense GSP has had unless Hardy gets that one devastating blow in.
 

They_call_me_MrTibbs on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:07 am ET
what was the deal with koschek and the phantom knee?
 

JokeYaMind09 on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:20 am ET
so so gald i didnt buy it! Another main event in kind of a split! Loved the fre fights on Spiketv and they were fights that were goos and from whut i have seen the ppv sucked D**K and i think the $50 i saved i might donate to toys 4 tots ya dig'
 

chipibetico on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:20 am ET
What did Tito complain about after the fight? And what did Saunders say to Hardy?
 

chipibetico on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:30 am ET
Correction, what did Kos say to Hardy? I was in a bar, watching it but couldn't hear a thing over the screaming douchebags.
 

ElChingon on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:33 am ET
Kos called out Hardy and said he was the true #1 contender at welterweight
 

Roxinius on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:44 am ET
rofl if kos is the #1 contender let him get raped by gsp again
 

ElChingon on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:53 am ET
I don't think Kos is the #1 contender either, that's just what he thinks.  IMO, there is no clear #1 contender at welterweight right now. 
 

ddk on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:00 am ET
I am not a fan of Kos but I think he stands a better chance against GSP. Yes, he's had his chance before but seriously, Hardy? No. He doesn't deserve it except for the marketing in the UK. I don't think Kos will win but it just isn't fair in my eyes. I am glad he called Hardy out. That sh*t needs to happen more. People get shafted on their fights...a la hendo and marquadt. If they call out fighters, ufc will see the bull sh*t.
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:03 am ET
Kos got a very clean rear choke on Johnson who quit. The rest doesn't matter. 
 

ElChingon on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:12 am ET
Agreed.....Hardy should not have a shot at GSP and Kos would most likely have a better chance.  I also love it when fighters call each other out, sometimes it makes the fight that much better.  Hendo and Marquardt could both stake their claim to #1 contender status at middleweight, but I still think they should fight each other first.
 

troutki on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:21 am ET
Good God will people quit associating the UFC in direct correlation with the judging. The UFC dies not hire or choose the judges or ring officials!!! The organization does not matter or dictate this. UFC, Strikeforce...it sanctioned by the state and governing body. All parties involved including Dana want and opening call for judging and the 10 point must system to change.
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:02 am ET
Dude you got on UFC Youtube and UFC Facebook. Those people are the worst. They the UFC is run by the mob and crazy stuff like that.
 

Capn on Nov 22, 2009 at 2:57 am ET
Yeah Im getting tired of Tito's excuses I am a big fan of his but he was claiming to be 100 percent and ready to go but when he couldn't break Forrest he came up with excuses of being hurt. I dont expect there rubber match to be anything different. Koscheck is a great actor, Im not dissapointed in his fighting performance, but that knee to the face didn't really happen sorry Koscheck a little over acting, but great performance and win for Koscheck, Koscheck/Hardy should happen, Hardy didn't like he would mind fighting Koscheck first.

Here are some future match ups for some of the fighters that fought tonight.

Forrest Griffen vs Rich Franklin
Anthony Johnson vs Daley/Condit winner
Amir Sadollah vs Damian Maia 
Lil Nog vs Rashad/Silva winner
Tito Ortiz vs Luis Cane
 

ddk on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:11 am ET
Great post.

Tito is such a b*tch. Yes i can say that because I am a keyboard warrior. His excuses are laughable. I am appalled by his comments and excuses. Fighters fight with injuries, we all know that. I am one of the few mexicans that can't stand this guy. I'd much rather root for Cain, Escudero, and Torres.

I love these match ups you've listed. Hardy and Kos would be great. I am not a Kos fan (at all) but Kos would win by GnP.
 

HWSMI on Nov 22, 2009 at 6:32 pm ET
Does Maia drop weight to 170 or does Sadollah move back up to 185.......neither one is going to happen!!!!!
 

Slakdawg on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:13 am ET
I see a ton of Kos hate on here.  People calling him a cheat and a coward for "faking" the eye injury.  Did you guys not actually watch the fight?  The replays clearly showed Johnson catching Kos with the illegal knee (Kos blocked most of that with his arm) followed by an eyepoke.  How exactly did Kos fake his eye swelling up?  I know, Kos was so worried about getting beat up by Johnson that he "willed" his eye to swell up.  Give me a break.  Kos didnt  complain about the illegal knee, as it didnt cause the damage to his eye.  it was the eyepoke that did it.  And if he was really "cheating" or "faking" because he was scared, then why did he continue the fight?  He could have sold the doctor that he still couldnt see and that would have ended it.  I swear, some people need to get over the hate and realize that Kos is a pretty good fighter.
 

derek666 on Nov 22, 2009 at 5:25 am ET
Just replayed the phantom knee over and over, knee to arm on right side of Kos head, Kos grabs right eye at first then for some reason claim's it was the left eye and played it for all its worth. Watch it as much as you want and it shows the same scenario I just said, knee hit's arm on right side of head and Kos covers left eye!! Make sense? Didnt think so.
 

MMALondon on Nov 22, 2009 at 7:56 am ET
People can say he faked because he got kneed (which I agree he blocked) in the left eye and then it appeared to me AJ may have scratched him in he right eye on his follow through.  The whole time Kos was rolloing aound and then blinking for 5 minutes it was only his left eye he was concened about.  
 

Bronxbomber on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:07 am ET
I think some people are missing the point.  Kos got hit with a knee that he partially blocked with his arm.  I would challenge any of you to put your arm up against your eye and let AJ give you a good knee to that arm.  You think maybe your eye would hurt???

Jeez...I don't care much for Kos but he exposed AJ tonight.
 

darknative969 on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:37 am ET
is everyone retarded!!??  not a fan of either man... just a fan of LEGITIMATE fights. . .tito was balls out for 2 rounds. . then suddenly in the 3rd. . he barely throws a punch???  nor a kick. . am i the only one that saw that BS??  please.. .. . ive watched and love the UFC for years. . .then this??. . people please. . i cant be the only one that saw the obvious change in aggresivness in tito. . . im sadend and greatly dissapointed that the deal between tito and dana came to this. . win lose win lose nonsence. . for what??? . . pay per view?. . not only that. . but the fact that their playing us as enthusiests to the sport that we will pay again for tito vs griffen 3 ??? and that we are lame enough to take it. . . im out of this sh*t. . .  BOYCOTT UFC !!!!!   site soon to come friends. . .   
 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:42 am ET
Have fun in the dark with your little boycott. TUF Finale and Penn v. Sanchez next month. You'll be back on here. hahahaha
 

darknative969 on Nov 22, 2009 at 4:05 am ET
good one snake...  tuf finale. .. tune in?  rateings = $$ . . . not dening that the fighters are bad ass,skilled and talented, man im a huge fan. . just wondering why im one of the few that saw that this sh*t between tito and forrest was set up . . .  hard to watch now (in my own opinion) if one thinks that the sh*t is played. . . 
 

ZachAttack on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:45 am ET
very nice night of fights.... all very exciting and action-packed...

I think my favorite fight of the night was sadollah/baroni or davis/saunders..  Just sluggin it out... heart on the line...

LIL NOG was also very impressive! The dude has some crisp combinations.... Congrats to him...

UFC 106 is a success in my mind...

 

snakechamer on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:51 am ET
Word. Fights are about the fighters. People pissed all over this card 'cause no belt was on the line. UFC deserves mad props for still delivering a good show with all the drama on this card. Other promotions would have cancelled this event. UFC delivers entertainment. Props.
 

BorG on Nov 22, 2009 at 3:56 am ET
Volkmann vs Tiago was some good ground action (yes some do enjoy it) it looked like Volkmann had trouble getting a grip maybe the gloves threw him off ,but that little choke he slipped on from the bottom was pretty slick right??He did good no to take alot of punishment even though hes got no stand up skills.And after listening to Moron Ronaldo and that dead guy on SF ,it is a relief to hear Joe Rogan play by play.Kudos to UFC for a real presentation.
 

GSPP4PKING on Nov 22, 2009 at 4:00 am ET
I was pulling for Tito, but he didn't do sh*t in the Third round. He won the Second Round Clearly but the First Round was pretty close
I think Griffins Striking was more damaging and accurate than Titos take downs. The Third Round Tito got destroyed, he was beaten 
senseless, I agree Griffin could have done something to finish the fight but Tito did nothing. So to say Tito should have won the fight
is stupid. 

The Judges will look at that third round very closely, it can tell you who would win if this was a 5 round fight by the way the fighters
are acting. Tito was gassed and was just absorbing leg kicks, punches, at one point his mouth guard got kicked out of his mouth. Thats a 10-8 round 
and thats why Griffin won
 

darknative969 on Nov 22, 2009 at 4:09 am ET
GSP. . . dude. . please feed me your opinion as to why tito (in my opinion) suddenly stopped  fightin back in the 3rd?? totaly dumbfounded as to his sudden loss of "heart". . lettin forrest tag on him for 3 min?? man. . what up?? . .
 

GSPP4PKING on Nov 22, 2009 at 4:10 am ET
Anthony Johnson is overrated. He punched out some guy from the Ultimate Fighter who lost to Mac Danzig in 2 minutes. Tommy Sphere or something like that.
Rumble came into the fight at weight this time and he got owned. His wrestling is maybe a 6-10 GSP being a 10, and his striking is 
explosive but far from amazing 8-10. He has absolutely no Jits. As far as the knee Kos is a bitch for pretending to be hurt by it, however 
rumble should not have thrown it. Everyone gets on the guys f**king train because he knocks out a Japanese Judo expert who was out weighed by 25 pounds, wha joke. GSP would have put him in a coma if they fought. Hardy should fight GSP, then KOS rematches Alves, and then fitch fights the winner, they fight GSP.
GSP then can decide to move up if he should want to, I think he should stay where he is though. 
 

GSPP4PKING on Nov 22, 2009 at 4:16 am ET
Tito blew his wad in the second round trying to finish Forrest, we have seen Tito in the past pound out people from the top, but they have never been the size of Forrest. I think Tito gassed out because of his ring rust, I also think he may have felt he had the fight in the bag so he was hesitating to commit to anything from fear of getting knocked out or rocked, which would then change the mind of the judges. Also Griffins leg kicks may have finally done they're damage and Tito had lost all mobility. If Tito wants to have any success in the UFC's Light Heavy Weight Division he needs to start wrestling with better wrestlers until then he will not progress to the point where his wrestling is good enough that he can rely on it.


 

darknative969 on Nov 22, 2009 at 4:22 am ET
but not even fighting back??   even dudes that get gased try to throw. . .agreed that he may have thought he had this sh*t. . . again. .i wasnt for either fighter. . just love to see great fights between great fighters. . but it just seemed. . to predictable that they were settin up for tito/griff  3. . . check the ratings (snake) . . ya think ??   i know there not short of cash by any means. . .but popular demand has its pull in the industry (tv / media). . .dana has brought it and wants to keep it. . .no doubt
 

crunchy on Nov 22, 2009 at 4:31 am ET
dude if a fighter gasses they lose the ability to fight. it happens in a ton of fights and it happens all the time. that's why cardio is such a big issue. a mediocre fighter with great cardio will beat a great fighter with mediocre cardio most of the time. tito is getting old and he hasn't fought in forever he gassed in the first fight too he gassed plain and simple if it was a conspiracy or a deal between dana and tito it wouldn't be a controversial decision. the ufc has no bearing on the judges decision the judges are put there by the state athletic commision. if dana and tito had a deal dana wouldn't have had him leave a close fight that could of gone either way in the judges hands.........conspiracy in mma is silly you sound like "crazy" bob cook to me
 

crunchy on Nov 22, 2009 at 4:41 am ET
bj penn v. matt hughes 2 matt couldn't touch penn hughes was in severe trouble getting beaten badly standing up and on the ground then penn gassed and hughes mopped the floor with him after he gassed hughes was hitting him at will and penn wasn't even trying to dodge or put his hands up. fighters gas and it does this to em man. no conspiracy no deal with the devil or dana. just cardio.
 

darknative969 on Nov 22, 2009 at 5:03 am ET
aight mma bros.. guess i'll tap on this. .  just seemed to be a little fishy man. . .not about the judges or any of that. . just a top notch fighter "in the best shape" of his carreer. . "gasin" out. .  old??   (in my opinion. . no. . ) the dude aint that old. . just been around awhile. . fightin since his early 20's. . . anyway..
 

FuneralPyre on Nov 22, 2009 at 7:26 am ET
Phil Baroni could've done better, but he still showed his big big heart!
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira was impressive!
Paulo Thiago won, but it wasn't impressive.
Josh Koscheck & Anthony Johnson made a great match!
Tito Ortiz & Forrest Griffin also made a memorable match!
 

MMALondon on Nov 22, 2009 at 8:04 am ET
I was suprised at the quality of the card.  I also like watching  evey fight (with the free prelims) except the one draw.  Knock out of the night should be Saunders over Davis
 

BrassJunkie on Nov 22, 2009 at 8:22 am ET
The ref that scored it 30-27 needs glasses. Did he give points to Forrest in the second round for his abilty to be taken down and take punishment? Please!!
 

mattgil on Nov 22, 2009 at 9:22 am ET
There is a lot being said about Hardy on here, but get off his back...... He has fought who has been put in front of him... and WON.

It is down to the UFC, Hardy is like 11 - 1 in his last 12 fights, is undefeated in UFC, beat worthy opponents in Davis + Swick.  Kos is  jealous of his shot.  Kos has lost a lot of respect from me.  That knee that didnt even touch Kos was a joke. KOS IS A PUNK.  he knew he ws losing, Rumble had him scared sh*tless, so he took 15 mins to compose himself.
Rumble has had surgery on his eye, + got poked twice last night, and didnt take even half the time that kos did to recover.

I dont think Hardy beats GSP at all, but he has a shot.  Dana wants to make the big bucks off hardy aswell, it will be a monster fight in UK / Europe, with the first Brit ever to fight for a title................

Tito, i love the guy, and always jump to his defence, but even i was bummed that he started 'crying' about his cracked skull......  He just dosnt have it anymore, has no power in his shots anymore, cant keep anyone down, and has NO STANDUP whatsoever.

GSP vs Hardy @ the 02 in london, YEAH
 

Slakdawg on Nov 22, 2009 at 1:22 pm ET
Yeah, Kos was so scared that he took the fight on short notice, took AJ down and pounded on him before submitting him.  Kos took an illegal knee (that he was able to block some or all of) and then took an eye poke on AJ's follow through.  Did Kos fake his eye swelling up?  How does someone do that? Kos was also smart to take the allowed time to recover from the eye poke.  How many times do you see someone take an illegal shot and come back before they're ready and just get destroyed?  Happens all the time.  Kos was smart and took the time that was allowed to get his vision straight.  Kos haters are funny.  They look for any and all reason to hate him.  Face it, Kos took down a guy who was way bigger and way stronger, pounded on him til he bled, and then choked him out.  That was a great win for Kos, especially on short notice.
 

mmabsmooth on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:35 am ET
I do not post often, but when I have a valid point, I want to get it off my chest. I am a HUGE MMA fan, and I buy most of the fights. I went to the UFC in Philly when Silva demolished Griffin. Ever since then, I cannot buy a PPV with Griffin as the main event of the night... reasons be...

Griffin will never beat a top contender again, he is one dimensional, can't stuff a takedown, and can't knock any top level fighters out. In the Silva fight, it looked like a 5th grader fighting a college student.  He went down and flailed his arms from a jab as to say no more PLEASE!!! LOLOL, and ran out like a little girl  . I understand Dana puts the main card up, not based on talent, but on PPV's bought, but as a MMA fan, it is not top tier competition for a Main event fight of the night, therefore I had to pass. His corny humor isn't even funny either.

Now for Ortiz, I do not dislike a fighter in MMA as much as Ortiz. Everything out of his self ego ass is a lie. Starting from the pre fight that he is in the best shape of his life(which was a lie) as he said he was hurt after the fight. He, also, can not ever beat a top contender(top 10) ever again.  He says he fights for the fans, yeah ok, he said in the conference he has little kids to feed. Stop the bullcrap and be real for once in your life. He said he lied to sell PPV and tickets about his shape. Why doesn't he just fight in the WWE if he wants to do everything fake and full of lies. I will never buy any of his fights either.

I realize both these guys can kick my rear, but I am not a fighter, just a college degree worker, but when I buy an event, I would like to get my moneys worth. Pease
 

tlandry14 on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:57 am ET
Hey moron, stop posting this same comment on every thread. It is annoying to read once, no less four times.
 

MMALondon on Nov 22, 2009 at 6:39 pm ET
+1000
 

mmabsmooth on Nov 22, 2009 at 11:23 am ET
I do not post often, but when I have a valid point, I want to get it off my chest. I am a HUGE MMA fan, and I buy most of the fights. I went to the UFC in Philly when Silva demolished Griffin. Ever since then, I cannot buy a PPV with Griffin as the main event of the night... reasons be...Griffin will never beat a top contender again, he is one dimensional, can't stuff a takedown, and can't knock any top level fighters out. In the Silva fight, it looked like a 5th grader fighting a college student.  He went down and flailed his arms from a jab as to say no more PLEASE!!! LOLOL, and ran out like a little girl  . I understand Dana puts the main card up, not based on talent, but on PPV's bought, but as a MMA fan, it is not top tier competition for a Main event fight of the night, therefore I had to pass. His corny humor isn't even funny either.Now for Ortiz, I do not dislike a fighter in MMA as much as Ortiz. Everything out of his self ego ass is a lie. Starting from the pre fight that he is in the best shape of his life(which was a lie) as he said he was hurt after the fight. He, also, can not ever beat a top contender(top 10) ever again.  He says he fights for the fans, yeah ok, he said in the conference he has little kids to feed. Stop the bullcrap and be real for once in your life. He said he lied to sell PPV and tickets about his shape. Why doesn't he just fight in the WWE if he wants to do everything fake and full of lies. I will never buy any of his fights either.I realize both these guys can kick my rear, but I am not a fighter, just a college degree worker, but when I buy an event, I would like to get my moneys worth. Peace
 

demac09 on Nov 22, 2009 at 11:29 am ET
what a tool, does he not realize silva makes everyone look like a girl. good thing he doesnt post often.
 

isbj on Nov 22, 2009 at 12:35 pm ET
I think he's saying if Forrest was dominated by an elite middle weight champ what chance does he have contending against the elite LHW champ. Forrest is no Rua and would have been KTFO'd if he had opened up like that against Machida. Yeah I know Forrest beat Rua but I gotta believe that was a fluke. That was the 1 out of 100 fights.

The UFC's champs dominate the contenders so bad. I think the best challengers to UFC gold are in other orgz right now. Just like the way they were when they were all in Pride. These PPV are not worth the money right now.
 

Dutchmeister on Nov 22, 2009 at 12:54 pm ET
WHEW!!!  I was so glad to see Forrest get a win, breaking a two-fight rough patch.  Happy to see him get a win under his belt.

KA-CHING FOR KOSCHECK!!!  Winning $140,000 in cheddar for "Fight of the Night" and "Submission of the Night" over an always tough Anthony Johnson... not a bad night's work at all.  I'm glad "Rumble" got some cheddar, too.  I like him, he's tough as hell, got sick knockout power, and is a friggin' juggernaut at 170.  He just got caught, which happens.  I don't think this will adversely affect his standing in the UFC's welterweight division.  He'll be back.
 

bencoates on Nov 23, 2009 at 11:58 am ET
little nog surprised the hell out of me. would he fight machida given the chance?
 

rickyrocks on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:59 am ET
Tito Ortity was dominated for 3 rounds give me a break. Ortiz thinks he won the fight?? what planet is he on? Tito must be huffing glue to think he won. Tito isnt even in shape to fight 3 rounds. Tito should be embarassed putting on a show like that. When rampage comes crawling back on his belly grocveling like the snake he is Tito should be in better shap to kick his ass.
 

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