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Touristiness heatmap by number of public photos (google.com)
103 points by vl 3 days ago | 42 comments




34 points by 0nly1ife 3 days ago | link

Cool idea, but I think the data is skewed by population density, for example, the map shows Juarez as being more touristy than the Grand Canyon. A better approach might be to map the ratio of photos to population density.

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16 points by uuilly 3 days ago | link

Yup: http://uuorld.com/gallery?image=89

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3 points by ydant 3 days ago | link

That's one of the coolest maps I've seen in a while. Thank you.

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5 points by uuilly 3 days ago | link

Thx. Me and http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=martian wrote the software to make it. Martian made that particular map.

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5 points by tocomment 3 days ago | link

Where did you get the data? Is it free? I'd love to make some realtime software like this.

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3 points by uuilly 3 days ago | link

Many places. World Bank, Census, IMF etc. Do a text search on this page: http://uuorld.com/portal/ for "set:" Each set is free from its source but they require lots of tedious massaging to reformat.

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0 points by tocomment 2 days ago | link

I thought we were talking about user submitted, geo-tagged photographs?

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1 point by tocomment 2 days ago | link

Why the downvote? I'm genuinely confused. I guess I could have read the link better, maybe this thread isn't talking about that?

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2 points by uuilly 2 days ago | link

I didn't down-vote you but I was talking about the raw statistics used as input to the visualization engine. I had assumed you wanted to build some data-visualization software and was pointing out the places to get stats.

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6 points by tmsh 3 days ago | link

It sounds like the guy who compiled the data is thinking of doing that too:

http://www.bluemoon.ee/~ahti/touristiness-map/

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2 points by techiferous 3 days ago | link

Agreed, it pretty much follows population density. Some notable exceptions are Utah, Colorado, Yellowstone, the Grand Canyon, the Smoky Mountains (on the border of Tennessee and North Carolina), the Carolina beaches, Vermont, northern New Hampshire, and the Adirondacks of New York.

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2 points by kylemathews 3 days ago | link

Another exception is the Oregon Coast (where I grow up) It's bright yellow but pretty much no one lives there (relatively speaking). For example, the county I grew up, Lincoln County, is roughly the size of Rhode Island but has only around 45,000 people (figures from memory).

But it is extremely touristy. Highway 101 grinds to a stand still most summer days, especially when it's really hot inland in Portland / Salem / Eugene.

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2 points by kd0amg 3 days ago | link

Upper Michigan has some definite breaks with population density. Escanaba has nothing, while Mackinac Island is very bright. Closer to home, there are hotspots at Houghton/Hancock and Copper Harbor, but emptiness in between, whereas Calumet/Laurium is quite a bit more populous than anywhere farther up the peninsula.

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2 points by techiferous 3 days ago | link

Also, the Antarctic Peninsula.

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1 point by petercooper 3 days ago | link

Sure is, Compton is bright yellow, for example :-)

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2 points by ahtih 2 days ago | link

I am the author of the map. Sure, I will take population into account in the next revision. My main focus when creating this was to discover less touristy places, so I did not pay much attention to cities.

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5 points by brazzy 3 days ago | link

Great idea.

Wouldn't have expected the USA to be that much less touristy than Europe, though. And within Europe, western France seems to attract fewer photographs than even rurual Turkey.

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6 points by tmsh 3 days ago | link

Yeah, it's hard to deduce what the resolution of this heatmap is. I imagine the Alps are popular. But every square km like that? Seems rather unlikely... (very cool idea as mentioned though)

ETA. Based on http://www.panoramio.com/ -- I think a little bit of the skew in the Alps may have to do with panoramas counting for larger area (you can cover a lot more area from peaks in the Alps than say...at lower altitudes). The rest seems very legit. Very nice...

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6 points by aho 3 days ago | link

The map is based on the distribution of photos from http://www.panoramio.com, a photo-sharing website. The site was originally based in Spain, so perhaps there are relatively more photos from European users.

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1 point by jacquesm 3 days ago | link

I think that it depends on what is being photographed. In rural Turkey, it will be toursists photographing each other, in Western France it will be tourists photographing the Eiffel tower.

Plenty of very highly visited areas are not that memorable by themselves other than that they receive a large amount of sunshine and this alone will attract large numbers of tourists from the North West of Europe.

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2 points by davidw 2 days ago | link

I don't think panoramio includes photos of people taking pictures of one another.

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6 points by jacquesm 3 days ago | link

Would be nice to see this by time of the year so you can plan your trip when everybody else is not at your destination.

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1 point by JoeAltmaier 2 days ago | link

Simple. Go to an Interesting Remote Place instead of a touristy place. I recommend Isle Royale in Lake Superior.

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2 points by ahtih 2 days ago | link

I am the author of the Touristiness Map, and I just added a "Interesting Remote Places" map where I take in population data from geonames.org. It is on the same webpage as the Touristiness Map: http://www.bluemoon.ee/~ahti/touristiness-map/

I swear I picked the name before I saw your post :P

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2 points by utexaspunk 2 days ago | link

Sure enough, Isle Royale is a bright spot on that map... :)

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3 points by jrockway 3 days ago | link

Winter.

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3 points by techiferous 3 days ago | link

Or mud season. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_season

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3 points by jacquesm 3 days ago | link

Not for the Alps :)

And not in the Southern hemisphere either.

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2 points by nostromo 3 days ago | link

They have winter in the southern hemisphere too. ;-)

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1 point by jacquesm 3 days ago | link

Tricky question, is winter when it is cold or is winter when it is December ?

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5 points by bmunro 3 days ago | link

Not tricky at all. Winter is in June, July, August

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2 points by davidw 3 days ago | link

Why is yellow the 'hottest'? That sort of goes against every other map of this type, no? Also, it seems to be in need of some calibration. The Alps get lots of tourists, but Venice gets way more. Oodles of them.

That said, I love the concept and the clever use of public data to make a guess about something else.

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2 points by arethuza 2 days ago | link

From December to April the Alps get a hell of a lot of visitors - the big ski resorts (especially the French ones) are huge.

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1 point by davidw 2 days ago | link

Yeah, I know - I lived in Innsbruck. Nothing like any day of the year in Venice, though.

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1 point by arethuza 2 days ago | link

3 Valleys, Espace Killy, Paradiski....

I'd go with the Alps

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2 points by arethuza 2 days ago | link

If you like that site then you may find the Geograph project interesting:

http://www.geograph.org.uk/

The have high resolution (100m x 100m) resolution photo heat maps of the UK. (Note the amount of green in Scotland, meaning no pics at all of that grid square).

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1 point by Vivtek 3 days ago | link

Dang. While it works well in Indiana (it detects the Metamora artists' colony), it pretty much maxes the meter in Western Europe and Puerto Rico (the latter basically looks like a glowing hot brick).

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2 points by tocomment 3 days ago | link

How about making it detect clusters of photos at locations. So I can look within say 20 miles of my area and find certain locations where there are a lot of photos?

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1 point by stcredzero 2 days ago | link

I would've thought all Irerland to be colored in. What's with the stretch of N60 between Ballyhaunis and Castlerea? The N5 just to the south and west of Lough Gara as well.

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1 point by nandemo 3 days ago | link

Surprisingly, Pyongyang looks pretty bright.

One could argue that North Korea is safer than (say) Thailand now, but I still wonder why go there if you aren't a researcher or spy.

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-1 points by aw3c2 3 days ago | link

I'd like to know what this has to do with "touristiness". Were only photos used that were tagged eg "vacation"? Germany is a land of spammers and contribution-freaks (as in "I must add an photo here, I will be the first") but I highly doubt it is such a popular holiday destination.

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1 point by lenni 2 days ago | link

I get your second point (although I think desire to 'level up' is nothing particularly German) but 'land of spammers'?

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