Kate de Brito
Friday, July 23, 2010 at 08:02am
Dear Bossy: I’m in desperate need of some overdue advice from you and your readers!
I’ve been dating this guy for 8 months now ( let’s call him Nick) and I feel like he’s already letting go of himself. I know everyone has there honeymoon period, but I feel like ours only lasted about 6 months and we’re now acting like a married couple. Basically all of Nick’s friends are married or engaged and for the last 2 months of the relationship I’ve felt as though Nick’s only with me for the sake of being with SOMEONE!
At the very beginning things were great, he has a beautiful personality, not a bad looking guy and he’s very kind hearted. He even made up little pet names other than the typical “baby”.. But here’s where things go pear shaped.
I noticed that he has never used the pet names in front of his mates. Now at first I put it down to him not wanting to look soft in front of his mates, but this past weekend I discovered that he has stolen these unusual pet names from his friends!
I’m a gym freak and I like to keep fit and healthy, but Nick has let himself go in the last 8 months. You could literally compare his stomach to that of a 6 month pregnant woman and I’m beginning to feel less attracted to him because of it.
Due to the weight/health issue, I’m starting to notice all these little flaws that didn’t bother me whatsoever initially. He chews with his mouth open, he licks his knife if there’s food on it when he has finished eating, regardless of where we are eating and when I say something about it he just looks at me with this “I don’t care what you say” look and continues to do it. He continues to stuff himself with food when you can see it in his face that he’s full. He copies his friends when they do something for their wives. He will watch them do it and turn around and do the same thing with me.
I have tried to bring up all of the above with him, but he just ignores me and continues to do the same thing. I’m not expecting him to change for me, but I just think some of the things he does are disgusting and rude and that it would be common sense to have SOME form of dinner etiquette.
Now I’m at a point where I don’t knw what to do. He is a lovely person and in a way I don’t want to lose him, but that may be because I’m scared I won’t find someone nice and he doesn’t take me seriously when I bring up these issues with him.
Should I stick around longer and see if things will change or should I leave before things get too serious? If I do leave how should I break up with him? I’m scared to confront him face to face because I know he will be very angry and upset, understandably so, but he yells when he’s angry and I feel like I’ll cave in if he gives excuses like he always does.
Please help me out Bossy, I’m really stuck and don’t know where to go from here. =(
Confused!
Bossy says: I’m sorry. I struggle to take someone seriously when they say things like: “I’m scared I won’t find someone nice”. Understandable after a 20 year marriage perhaps, but not after eight months. Clearly you are unsuited to a future together. You know this because while you think he’s a nice guy, just about everything else about him turns you off. What possible reason would you have for staying? Oh that’s right...you think maybe this is the best you will ever do in love...
Get a life. Let poor Nick down gently and move on. Find someone who floats your boat and let Nick do the same.
Break up by saying you care about him but you don’t feel you have a future. Don’t drag it out and whatever you do don’t read him a list of his faults. He cant make excuses if you simply tell him, “ I don’t have feelings for you any more.”
Do not cave. You are doing both of you a huge disservice by slogging away at something so utterly unappealing at such an early stage.
Bossy is right,
just end it, if he doesnt tickle your ### bone then theres no real reason to stay.
academically its all common sense, but i understand that with affairs of the heart its never so cut and dry.
you need to be true to yourself, if you want something different, you need to pursue it.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:08am)
Fri 23 Jul 10 (11:18am)
Here’s how it’s really playing out. Old mate has lost interest in her or never really had a true interest in her in the first place. He took her on for something to do, to fill a void.
He couldn’t care less if he’s piled on a few kgs, he’s probably hoping you will dump him over it.
He doesn’t like you enough to change his ways OP. Simple as that.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (11:51am)
Has it occurred to anyone else that this poor guy is actually comfort eating because he is the one that feels trapped in a relationship with a crazy self-confessed gym junkie who glares at him every fricking time he so much as looks at a plate of food?
Just a thought. Have a nice weekend, everyone.
So, Nick is a “lovely” guy, but everything else about him repulses you from his mystical pregnancy to his table manners to his method of courting you (simply copying whatever his friends do for their girlfriends/wives)?
It’s pretty obvious that you should marry him and then working on nagging away all those things that you don’t like about him. With enough time and nagging, I’m sure he’ll be thin and fit again, sponteneously romantic and will be able to dine at the finest of establishments with ease (and without licking his knife). If you nag him enough, he’ll probably even cure cancer and bring about world peace!
Or you could do the sane thing and tell him that it’s not working and that you both need to go your separate ways. If you’re worried about his reaction, then break-up with him in a “public” place, but make sure you do it in person (not over the phone or by text or email or by updating your Facebook status).
Good luck.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:15am)
Fri 23 Jul 10 (02:19pm)
Y’no he COULD be actually pregnant, in which case you could make a million (or 2) selling his story to trashy womens mags and all that.
Or he could be content to sit back on his lazy arse letting his mates admire the way he gets his hot babe (ie you) to do all the work while staying hot…
Kindest thing for both of you is to end things asap - you’re both taking advantage of each other, just to ‘have someone’.
He’s on a winner, keeping the hottie with NO effort whatsoever on his part. You Know you deserve better than that.
Short answer: its over, tell him so and move right along.
Of course he cares about you and you should stay. After all, he’s rooting you isn’t he?
So what if he gains a few kg around the girth. Plenty of women do that too, and blokes aren’t allowed to say a word about that.
Or, as Bette Midler said in “The Rose” you could simply say;
FUCK THIS SHIT!
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:20am)
Fri 23 Jul 10 (11:12am)
Personally i reckon he is doing it on purpose Shane, sounds like he is completelt miserable and is trying to turn her off...imagine the shit hitting the fan if he wrote in complaining about her weight!!!
NEXT!
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:21am)
8 months and he’s already annoying the crap out of you? Get outta there before you get pregnant and have to be tied to him forever.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:21am)
So you’re hot and you don’t mind dating lazy and greedy guys?
What’s your number?
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:32am)
Fri 23 Jul 10 (10:21am)
Ha ha ha nice one Admiral
I have little time for fat lazy people OP whether they are women or men so I can understand that. Fat people belong with fat people, loser with losers, fags with fags, you get my drift. I have to go to hospital and I feel sick not because of my operation, but because I can’t run, surf, or whatever for two whole weeks. Couch potatoism sucks hard. I feel dystrophic already.
People recycle other peoples jokes, names and claim them as their own all the time. Its the australian way.
So I disagree with bossy. Don’t break up. Just get pregnant with him and then have an affair with one of his mates. Then he’ll start listening (or he might just flip out and hit you). Take the power back OP. Don’t be a victim. That’s what I’ll teach my daughters anyway.
hope this helps
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:33am)
Fri 23 Jul 10 (09:19am)
Definitely the best advice here. But I do think she should anonymously expose him as a fat, knife-licking, pet-name stealer on a Facebook board as well. Just for some satisfaction.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (10:45am)
Ironic that you so despise fat people, given that potatoes are so notorious for making people fat. Seems like that’d be a vicious cycle for you....
As comforting as it is that if we ever met, you’d hate me without ever getting to know me, purely because I’m a tad chubby.... I’m actually ok with that. Because I’d hate you right back because you’re a giant douche, and noone likes a giant douche.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (11:14am)
Cheers spud, you rule.
I think you r up the sunny coast so this may not affect you but snapper was looking mighty good this morning, you must be spewing you can’t get out there for 2 weeks.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (11:34am)
Obvious troll is obvious
Fri 23 Jul 10 (12:14pm)
Oh jeeze I hope you weren’t in Nambour Hospital, if so congrats on first getting in, and then coming out alive.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (02:00pm)
Snapper rules. I like how it blows offshore in a southerly swell. Im a southern goldy local from way back.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (02:09pm)
Oh god, 10 bucks on potatoe living in the eastern suburbs of melbourne, tips in hair, rocking white oakley sunglasses but loves ‘surfing’.
Gotta love the faux surfers of the world.
You don’t know what to do? It seems frikkin obvious - break up with the guy you don’t even seem to like let alone love. Why would you stay when he annoys you this much after only 8 months.
You’re worried about not finding a ‘nice guy’? Well, try being a ‘nice’ girl and quit being so whingy. Geez, complaining about lack of originality in pet names really makes it sound like you’re doing a work performance appraisal on your partner.
Fair enough, you don’t make a good match. Leave it that, break up with the guy and move on. Don’t pick him apart.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:40am)
Agree with Bossy .. although without the harsh judgement re the “you think maybe this is the best you will ever do in love”.
In your gut, you know it’s not working but you’re trying to apply logic and come up with examples that, if he fixed them, things would be fine .. or coming up with excuses of why you should stay. Don’t. I felt the same way about my now ex husband and finally ending it was THE BEST thing I’ve done. Trust your gut. Commit to your decision and keep reminding yourself that what you have to do to wrap it all us is JUST A PROCESS. That helped me remove a lot of the emotion from it, particularly since he was emotional, naturally.
Stay strong. Believe me, when it’s over you’ll breathe a sign of relief. You deserve someone who’s totally into you (we all do) and it’s not your responsibility to forego that just because he has the ability to be a nice guy. All the best!
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:40am)
Fri 23 Jul 10 (10:19am)
Cool and groovy!
Now I finally know the answer to WWXD? Then again, Gabrielle only got hotter and hotter the more time she spent with Xena, so I’m not sure Xena is speaking from experience.
I’d dump you. You sound whiney and a nagger.
Also I don’t like people that don’t know the difference between “there” and “their”.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:40am)
Fri 23 Jul 10 (10:40am)
should that be “people WHO...”?
Fri 23 Jul 10 (11:15am)
I agree, people are so shallow these days, I bet she hasn’t asked if there is something wrong that is causinghim to over eat and not care about anything anymore!!
Fri 23 Jul 10 (12:27pm)
No, “that” is quite correct. But more people don’t know the difference between “there” and “they’re”, which is almost as annoying as “should of” instead of “should have"… but what the heck. We don’t really need language to communicate.
Men aren’t perfect. No matter who you date, or whoever you marry, they are going to have flaws that stick out like sore thumbs. You will feel this is a reflection on you, who you are, and how much they love you (if he loves me, he wouldnt be fat).
Women are generally irrational creatures. We demand perfection, but in doing so are imperfect creatures ourselves. He was perfect in the beginning for you, until the sands of time wore down those rose coloured glasses. Fact is, he’s always been this way, you just chose to continue to fall for him in spite of it/ignore it.
Now you ‘suddenly’ realise he’s got all these flaws. How horrible. How can you continue to date this man? What kind of woman would that make you?
....
You need to get a grip. Either you’re in or you’re out. Take him, flaws and all - or do the man a favour and leave him to find someone who will accept him.
Oddly enough, I have found men far more forgiving of flaws than women. Women have this idea of prince charming beaten into their little minds as children… whereas men seem to love her and her crazy ways anyway. Heaven knows my husband still loves me, and I’m a lunatic! Speaking of which… time to go water my plastic plants…
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:43am)
Fri 23 Jul 10 (12:16pm)
It’s overcast & forecast to be showery in Brisbane anyway Sarah. Pop the plastic plants out on the lawn & go have a lie down instead :-D
What are you staying for - a wedding to a fat bloke, bad wedding photos and a divorce shortly thereafter?
Save yourself the time FFS and pull the pin!
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:45am)
Poor Nick! You complain that the nice things he does for you are carbon copies of his mates ideas - that’s not a crime, at least he has the intent right even if he suffers from a lack of imagination. I am sure that in time as you get to know each other better, his attempts would become more personal. But hey, “don’t expect him to change for you"… except for the things you want him to change, of course.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:50am)
You are being a bitch!
Bossy is right, you and ‘Nick’ are not suited...if pretty much everything about him eerks you- leave the poor guy alone!
Hopefully he will find someone who finds his manly indiscretions (bad table manners etc) disgusting but down right amusing. They can have a laugh together.
Hopefully he will find a girl who recognises that he his hopeless in love, so he takes his lead (ideas on romance etc) from his mates who are IN SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIPS.
Please do not try to make yourself that girl...you would only be faking it out of desperation.
He deserves to feel loved not criticized. You also deserve to feel loved, I wish you all the best...but an attitude realignment before heading on the prowl certainly couldn’t hurt!
Fri 23 Jul 10 (08:55am)
Dump him and don’t look back. It will be good for both of you.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (09:05am)
OP,
There is nothing wrong with feeling unattracted to fat people. I refuse to go out with fat women. I keep myself in shape, so why should I go out with a tubby??
Don’t pay any attention if people call you shallow or self absorbed.
You just know what you like and don’t like.
Years ago I started seeing a woman who was voluptuous. Within four months she’d piled on 12 kilograms and was fat. Nothing I could do changed her outlook.
‘Love me for who I am, not what I look like,’ she kept saying.
Fat freaking chance.
Ever since then I’ve only had sex with one fat woman, and that was for charity…
OP - find someone you’re attracted to. It makes a huge difference.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (09:06am)
Fri 23 Jul 10 (12:17pm)
Gee, i didnt know there was such a charity.
but i think i’ll keep giving my contributions to more conventional charities.
This must be the three horse OP for the day. Anyways, dump him and move on, you wont change him now the honeymoon sex period is over.
Fri 23 Jul 10 (09:13am)
Yeah, I wouldn’t want a bloke using pet names for me in front of his mates either. I have a proper name, just call me that.
“I’m not expecting him to change, but...”
See, OP, see that ‘but’? What that ‘but’ does is just invalidate everything you say before it. That ‘but’ is used when you don’t believe a word of the statement preceding it. You have an idea of what you want in a relationship, and he doesn’t fit the cast.
Don’t be afraid of breaking up with him. He can be angry and crazy and cry and whatever else, it’s not your problem. The intial “I want to break up because I no longer have feelings for you” conversation shouldn’t take long. Don’t be suckered into having a big talk and a list of reasons, otherwise you’ll be there all day.
Like Jerry Seinfeld said - like a band aid - right off!!
Fri 23 Jul 10 (09:17am)
Fri 23 Jul 10 (12:29pm)
Ummm she was upset because he didn’t use the pet names in front of his mates.
She sounds like a nutter to me and my bet is that when she finally breaks up with Nick he will sigh in relief.
I read the following:-
“Im not expecting him to change for me”
“Should I stick around longer and see if things will change”
That’s the same thing.
Even if he rectified the table manners and selection of activities for you to do together a couple, which you also hate, you would find something else wrong with him to cover up the fact you just aren’t attracted or interested in this guy.
You want a validation that the way you feel about him, or the way you don’t feel about him, is HIS fault.
One womans trash is another womans treasure. Let him go and find someone who doesn’t mind him licking his knife.
Some women would be stoked that their partner took them out places. You just whinge that he is copying ideas from other people… why? because his friends said it was a great thing to do and he thought you would be interested to try it as well! Shame on him! How date he get ideas from his mates about things to do with his girlfriend! The NERVE!!!
Fri 23 Jul 10 (09:33am)
I like it how she says “I’m not expecting him to change for me, but......”
Fri 23 Jul 10 (09:50am)