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    Special edition, BMW style: The 2011 BMW 335is features the older-model twin-turbo inline-6 with 320 hp. | January 26, 2010

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2011 BMW 335is First Drive

Special Edition, BMW-Style

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    What we have in the 2011 BMW 335is coupe and convertible models is a classic special-edition ploy. You know the routine: A model that's been on the market for awhile, yet still has a couple years before its scheduled full-tilt overhaul, gets some choice pieces to spark a little demand in the face of newer competitors.

    Typically we're down on these exercises, which more often than not involve special badges and a pack of existing options rolled into one fairly lame special edition. But wait, just because it's a ploy doesn't necessarily mean it's lame. Witness the 2011 BMW 335is Coupe and Convertible. The 335is, which will go on sale this spring, is rated at 20 more horsepower than the newly introduced 300-hp 335i and comes with a unique and very tasty exhaust system, some additional cooling capacity, plus a body kit and trim package that should be identifiable to at least BMW enthusiasts, if not your average buyer. All this beats the hell out of special chrome wheels and a "Limited" badge.

    We've been here before with BMW and we like it. Last time the company went through this exercise, the E46 3 Series was getting a bit long in the tooth. The special edition was called the Performance package, although it's better known to aficionados as the ZHP package, and that version of the 2003 BMW 330i is still sought after on the used car market.

    Whose S Is It Anyway?
    Although BMW would be loath to admit it, we suspect the emergence of the 2011 BMW 335is in concert with the all-new 2011 BMW 335i has a little something to do with crosstown rival Audi and its recently introduced S4 sedan.

    While the 2010 Audi S4 is a four-door sedan and BMW's "is" configuration will be offered only for the 3 Series coupe and convertible, it has not gone unnoticed in Munich that the Audi has brought some real heat to the general category.

    For example the new Audi S4 bested last year's BMW 3 Series sedan in our own comparison test. And Audi switched course with its high-performance S5 coupe, keeping the 4.2-liter V8 it once shared with the S4 instead of getting the supercharged V6 that the S4 sedan and S5 convertible now feature.

    What's So Special Anyway?
    All right, forget Audi for a moment and consider, if you can, that you have a 2011 BMW 335i Coupe that you would like to make your own with a few modifications.

    Where would you start? The engine? Sure, us, too. So the 2011 BMW 335is gets the so-called N54 twin-turbo inline-6. This basic engine configuration comes from the previous-generation 3 Series, while the rest of the line of new-generation 3 Series models moves to the new N55 single-turbo inline-6, which improves emissions and packaging without sacrificing horsepower and torque.

    And that's where things get sticky. BMW will continue to use the old twin-turbo N54 (each turbo is fed by three cylinders, so we're not talking about a sequential setup) in what it describes as "high-performance" applications. So the 335is gets it, as does the recently unveiled "is" version of the Z4 coupe/roadster and the version of the 7 Series with an inline-6 engine.

    Those mean, black tips are connected to an exhaust that's been reworked for a vicious little bark.

    It's long been the conviction of car testers and BMW-forum dwellers that the N54 has always made significantly more power than the 300-hp rating it carries from BMW North America, Inc. We do not disagree. So now that the "is" model of the N54 inline-6 has arrived with a rating of 320 hp at 5,900 rpm thanks to an increase in turbo boost from 8.7 psi to 11.6 psi, there will be plenty of conspiracy theorists certain that the N54 has made this much power all along. In fact, BMW's estimates for acceleration performance for the 335is are so close to those for the former N54-powered 335i coupe that we think the suspicion of manipulation of the output numbers in the dyno cell will grow stronger.

    As it turns out, BMW seems to have notably underestimated more than the horsepower stats. BMW claims the 2011 BMW 335is Coupe with its standard six-speed manual transmission will get to 60 mph from a standstill in 5.1 seconds. That's quick. But when we compared a 2007 BMW 335i Coupe to an Infiniti G37 coupe, the BMW posted a 0-60-mph run of 4.8 seconds. That's quicker. Until we get a 335is on our test track in California, all we can say for absolutely certain is that the 335is will be the quickest 2011 3 Series that doesn't wear an M badge.

    The car's intercooled and turbocharged engine also has an overboost function that allows the two turbos to develop boost up to 14.5 psi for as long as 7 seconds, raising the torque from 332 pound-feet at 1,500 rpm to 370 lb-ft. (You'll have to pound the throttle pedal right to the floor to get that extra juice, by the way.) To withstand the extra heat developed in overboost mode, the 335is has a standard oil cooler and an additional water cooler, items that the previous-generation 3 Series with this engine conspicuously lacked. The N54 engine is also fitted into the 335is with stiffer motor mounts, too.

    Other Newishness
    Far less confusing and controversial are the other upgrades that come with the "is" package. In both coupe and convertible configurations, the 335is a body kit that is very much like the M Sport kit already available on standard examples of the 2011 3 Series Coupe. Lest this car be mistaken for a regular M Sport package car, BMW adds "is" badges to the trunk lid, flanks and even the interior. The interior gets special steel cover plates for the pedals, an M Sport steering wheel, gauges with the "is" logo, a black headliner and standard sport seats. Basically we're looking at a collection of pieces similar or identical to 3 Series bits already available.

    The suspension brings no surprises either, unless you are surprised by the fact that it is unchanged from the sport suspension setup for the standard 3 Series. It is not lowered, stiffened or in any other way different. And while this might make the "is" package's $7,000 price premium over the standard coupe seem a little dear, we note that the ride-and-handling compromise of the standard suspension has always been very much to our liking. The 335is also gets its own unique set of 18-inch rims, handsome split-spoke units. Nineteen-inch wheels are optional.

    Do you like black? We do. We think black is cool. And so apparently does BMW, since it has specified black front grilles for the 335is. These units, similar to available aftermarket pieces, match the black exhaust tips. For an added measure of blackness, the side mirrors are covered in a shiny black finish (but not the actual mirror part).

    Forget the front grilles and mirror caps, it's the exhaust that we're most interested in. Those mean black tips are connected to an exhaust system that's been reworked for a vicious little bark. It's something that we always missed from the standard 335i. But we didn't realize how much we missed exhaust noise until we heard the one made by the 2011 BMW 335is. It's the one piece of the 335is puzzle that we would gladly pay for as a separate option on a standard 335i coupe (were it available, which it is not).

    Oh, Yeah, Driving...
    And how does it feel to drive the 2011 BMW 335is? Well, all of our driving experience in the 335is came on a partially wet racetrack — the former F1 track at Estoril in Portugal, to be exact. This might not be exactly the best place to feel that extra 20 hp, since stomping the right pedal was greeted with either the incessant blinking of the traction- and stability-control warning light or, once those systems were disengaged, spinning/slipping/sliding rear tires.

    Still, the car felt great. It's an exceptionally well-balanced vehicle. But so have been all the standard 335i coupes we've tested before. Its brakes are well up to the task of racetrack use, at least the five consecutive laps that we got. But the brakes of the standard 335i coupe feel equally good, since they are, in fact, identical to those of the 335is.

    We took runs in both a 335is coupe with the standard six-speed manual transmission and the optional seven-speed dual-clutch automated manual transmission (this is the only application of BMW's Getrag-built dual-clutch item to a 3 Series car that doesn't have the "M" prefix). That the gear ratios of the six-speed manual happened to suit the needs of this particular circuit is no dig against the seven-speed dual-clutch unit. But with an accurate short-throw shifter and easy heel-and-toe operation, the manual is the more engaging of the two boxes. Anyway, a proper three-pedal manual seems better suited to this performance-oriented package.

    Of course, BMW does claim that the dual-clutch unit's launch control feature helps get the 335is to 60 mph from a standstill a tenth of a second quicker.

    Special Pricing
    At $50,525, the 2011 BMW 335is Coupe is a nice round $7,000 more than the 2011 BMW 335i Coupe. Likewise, the 2011 BMW 335is Convertible's $59,075 base price represents a $7,000 premium over the 2011 BMW 335i Convertible. That's before adding the dual-clutch seven-speed, should you choose to have that, and the Premium package and the 19-inch wheels and all that. So no matter how you cut it, the 335is is an expensive proposition.

    Of course, a 2011 BMW 335is Coupe is $9,450 less expensive than a 2010 BMW M3 Coupe. But the 2010 BMW M3 Sedan with its stellar 414-hp V8 and world-stomping handling is only $6,450 more expensive than the 335is coupe. And if you can manage to find a stripped-down M3 sedan, it would cost a bit less than a loaded-up 335is. But, of course, you wouldn't get all the doodads that a well-equipped $56,000 2011 BMW 335is would have.

    Oh, decisions, decisions. How special do you want to be?

    Edmunds attended a manufacturer-sponsored event, to which selected members of the press were invited, to facilitate this report.

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    iskch says:

    09:07 AM, 05/21/2010

    BMW will find the buyers for the new 335is.  Most of them lease their BMW's.  Maybe an out of lease used 335i coupe + Dinan = Performance.

    rayainsw says:

    10:18 AM, 02/19/2010

    And - from Build Your Own @ BMWUSA.com:

    Print Save
    My 335i Coupe
    3.0-liter, inline 6-cylinder engine with TwinPower Turbo technology
    Rear-wheel drive
    See all standard features
    Base MSRP $42,650
    Crimson Red $0
    Cream Beige Leatherette $0
    Dark Burl Walnut wood trim $0
    Destination & Handling: $875
    Total MSRP as Built $43,525

    rayainsw says:

    10:14 AM, 02/19/2010

    According to every source I have seen, leatherette is standard
    on ever 3-Series - at least in the USofA.
    Certainly listed that way on page 30 of both the 2010
    BMW 3-Series Coupe & Sedan brochures -
    as well as the MY2011 335iS Order Guide & Pricing documentation...
    Leather is $1,320 stand-alone - or part of the Premium Pkg.

    davidjervis25 says:

    08:55 AM, 02/17/2010

    Leather is standard on all 335i Models

    davidjervis25 says:

    08:54 AM, 02/17/2010

    This is how you write about a car.

    rayainsw says:

    03:56 AM, 02/02/2010

    Leather is NOT standard
    [ I mis-read a BMW statement ]
    so - the 'apples-to-apples' is
    more like $3,500 higher

    beermagazine says:

    04:17 PM, 02/01/2010

    What this IS means is what the 2007 car before the turbo recalibration update. I had teh 2007 and when they had an update to the software the power was changed...and lowered. If you look at initial testing of this car it was much quicker than later model years and I even think Edmunds dyno'd the car at about 290 at the wheels which puts it...right where this car is rated at the crank.

    So effectively they just retuned the engine to pre fuel pump and waste gate issues power and charged you $2,000 more. Sweet.

    rayainsw says:

    04:19 PM, 01/29/2010

    335i that is comparable to 335iS 2011 prices

    $43,525 base MSRP - nonmetallic paint [ including postage & handling ]
    $1,450 Dakota Leather - standard on 335iS
    $3,250 M Sport Pkg - standard on 335iS [ despite some confusing reportage ]

    $48,225 Total


    335iS
    $50,525 base MSRP w/destination
    Apples-to-apples comparison \ difference:
    $2,300

    everett2 says:

    06:07 AM, 01/29/2010

    Someone missed the point calling this a luxury car....it has 2 doors people.  If they did this same tweak to the sedan, the S4 would outsell it by a large margin, oh so it only comes in 2 door. (sorta smart in that respect)  

    BMW just removed the only thing it had over the S4 in 2010...its PRICE.

    This car competes with the M3, not the 4 door S4, and competing with your own brand is not well thought out.  BMW will sell more 335's in 2011 than 335is's (it is cough 7k more than the 335, NOT 5k BTW)

    judah777 says:

    12:20 AM, 01/29/2010

    mieden said:

    12:37 AM, 01/28/2010

    "judah, I'm not trying to insult your intelligence.  I get your perspective (I reasoned like you at one time)."

    The very fact that you mentioned it...(my intelligence)...speaks volumes about your lack of respect for it.

    I have known everything in your lastest post for the last thirty years.

    Your need to resort to talking about other people's intelligence is truly sad.

    And.....intelligence cannot be "insulted".....insults are for people.

    rayainsw says:

    12:43 PM, 01/28/2010

    This announcement seems to have resulted in more polarization of views [ both in the BMW oriented sites I have visited regularly for years ] than any BMW new model announcement I can remember.

    The fact that BMW has chosen NOT to introduce a model that is
    "Just as great as a BMW M3, for thousands less" seems to really annoy many.

    The fact that the MSRP is 5 or 6 or 7 thousand more than a 335i - and not just $200 more - because all BMW really did, in effect, was add [ the BMW equivalent of ] a Juice Box boost increase - seems to really bother a lot of folks.

    Yes, I grant that aftermarket 'tuners' have had great success with dramatically increasing HP \ TQ and acceleration on the 335i - for a whole lot less $$s than BMW will be charging for a 335iS.

    Yet I have a big problem with all those who 'crank up the boost' and HP & TQ - and then expect BMW to cover any driveline failures, when they are running way more boost & subjecting the entire drivetrain to far more stress than originally designed.

    I just think that is wrong.

    To me, the fact that it has a $5,500 to $6,000 higher MSRP
    than an equivalent 335i, equipped as I would likely buy one, is certainly not ideal.  And not quite what I had hoped for.
    [ Though I have not seen exact configurations or option pricing, I think using 335i option prices will result in a reasonably close estimate here. ]

    Some are going on & on about how many badges are on this car.

    But
    [ again, excepting the lack of an LSD - truly bizarre, to me ] this 335iS is exactly what I am looking for in a BMW 3 series.

    I am not looking for an M3.  For several reasons.
    In no way do I mean to diminish the M3 - I do have great respect for the M3's capabilities.

    But, for example, I do not expect to drive 'my' BMW 3 on a track.  Ever.  That is where much of the M3's superior capabilities seem to be focused - and where I expect that it would shine significantly above the 335iS.

    So - what I am looking for is a very refined, very quick GT coupe - essentially "a BMW 335i with noticeably better acceleration & more TQ across the rev band, in all normal street driving.  And one that sounds like a car being driven by a sophisticated internal combustion engine - not by an angry vacuum cleaner".

    [ I think that actual testing, by the press & by potential customers, will demonstrate that the subjective 'seat-of-the-pants' feel of the very substantial increase in TQ, though for 'only' 7 seconds at a time, is being underestimated by many.

    Heck, according to a C+D test of a 'regular' 335i with automatic, it takes about seven seconds to run from 60 to 100 MPH.  I expect that a typical 40 to 60 MPH or 50 to 70 MPH overtaking spurt of WOT in a 335iS ought to be rather exhilarating & entertaining - with a 20%+ increase in available TQ - a.k.a.: 'whack in the back'. ]

    I still distinctly remember the dramatic increase in acceleration that I felt when I had a supercharger pulley changed in a similarly powered car many years ago.  That change resulted in a bit over half the TQ increase being quoted here for the 335iS, as compared to the 335i.  It was immediately obvious & evident in all acceleration conditions.  And added a lot of driving enjoyment - for me.

    So - I am looking for increased acceleration, with whatever additional equipment is required for the full backing of the BMW warrantee - to 4 years \ 50,000 miles.  
    [ This does appear to be a rather thorough upgrade of all associated systems. ]

    So - as only one data point here - I disagree that BMW has completely wasted their time.

    But I am a 'data point' that will be seriously considering European Delivery of a 335iS.

    sebastien2 says:

    04:18 AM, 01/28/2010

    And what about the 320D Coupe???

    mieden says:

    12:37 AM, 01/28/2010

    judah, I'm not trying to insult your intelligence.  I get your perspective (I reasoned like you at one time).

    However, I'll try and explain it like i did on another popular automotive site.   HP is not real, its an average of engine tq at a given RPM.  No one "feels" HP, you "feel" tq.  Icecube already made my first point so i won't trifle it.  BMWs goal with the N54 was not to make outrageous HP numbers. The mechanical and electronic systems were tuned to emulate a MUCH larger engines power delivery, yet still return the MPGs of a high-output 3.5L V6 (hence 335).  The turbos are ultra-small (by modern standards) and the exhaust manifolds were meticulously designed to spool them up quickly and provide enormous tq ANYWARE in the RPM band (not to mention the compression ratio increases available because of the cooling effect of atomized fuel particles evaporating in the combustion chamber during the initial, direct fuel pulse).  The N54 makes 300 "tqs" (like Clarkson sais) from 1500RPM-5500RPM.  To put that in perspective, the car idles at 600RPM and by 1000RPM (less than double idle speed) its making 80% of those 300tqs!  BMW actually set entry-luxury standards considerably higher with the 335's introduction (much like Nissan did with the first High-output VQ).  There's something to be said for direct injection and turbocharging.  VW's 2.0T is tuned in a very similar way.  A simple ECM re-flash will take the 2.0T to 250HP with little extra cylinder stress, but negates the "tq-plateau" power delivery.  I've spent countless hours dynoing and tuning customer's cars hoping to achieve as flat a tq curve as possible to insure supreme driveablity.  I'm EXTREMELY impressed with the N54, even with its first gen HPFP and oil-cooler gaffe's.   You're talking to a person who was admiring and driving (not yet purchasing) cars way-back when a 30K J30 or Legend was a "fast" luxury ride because it made a little over 200HP and did 60 in less than 7.5 sec.  To sum up my point:  HP and specific output are not the be-all end-all in a sporty production car.  Tq, and more specifically...how it is accessed, plays a much larger role in what makes a car "exciting to drive".

    icecubefosho says:

    07:33 PM, 01/27/2010

    Judah,
    these aren't meant to be powerhouse vehicles. They're supposed to be very sporty refined vehicles with non detectable turbo lag, and a sweet torque curve throughout the whole range.

    The GTR is a pure sports car with massive maintenance fees for a reason. I think the N54 runs a 6psi boost while a GTR is like 12psi if I'm not mistaken. Not to mention, the GTR has .8 liters more than the N54, and larger turbos which have been said to be able to handle 600 horses. It is also around $80K... $30K more than a 335is.

    The old Jaguar XJ220 had a twin turbo T3 setup on a 3.5 Litre V6 delivering 542 bhp and  476 lb·ft of torque. I guess that means the GTR is poorly engineered too by your logic since the XJ220 was released in 1992.

    The 335is has more torque than a G37 thanks to its twin turbo setup and you should know that torque is more of the sporty punch than horses.

    judah777 says:

    06:37 PM, 01/27/2010

    mieden, I'll be quick as well.....

    Maybe  150bhp per liter  might not deliver the kind of power delivery BMW owners are used to or  want....but  sure  120-130 bhp per liter.....the  same  specific out-put of Nissan's GTR  would be satisfying.

    The GTR's  3.8L V6  has a specific out-put of around 127 bhp per liter.....and I have NEVER heard any automotive journalists say any thing negative about its power delivery.....they may not like its sound....but an Inline 6  would not have that problem.

    topnotch3 says:

    04:10 PM, 01/27/2010

    way2goslick says:

    12:53 PM, 01/27/2010

    ''Not Impressed! Not enough to make me want to trade in my Bad Azz Civic Si! For the extra money I'd save I can turbocharge AND supercharge my Si and run circles around this thing AND STILL have money left over. Face it BMW...'Bad Boyz wit Bad Toyz' today means today's car culture drives imports. Twenty years from now I'm gonna put my hat on backwards, pop in some Fitty Cent, and go rollin' in my Si! I will be wearin' a gold diaper too with the extra dough I saved by not buying this. Puheece!''

    LMAO..badass Civic Si..Turbocharge AND superchage..thats hilarious it takes that much to beat a car that has STOCK turbos..and tiny ones at that..what will you run with that setup ? 13s ?? LMAO..A stock 128i which is the cheapest BMW and its NA,will rape an Si..go wear your hat backwards,listen to 50 cent and drive your rice burner...you might just attract some fast and furious underage boys too.. :) Dont forget your ''NOS''.. you might need it after driving that Horsepower freak..oh yeah and your golden diaper.

    I'll say it again... 11.2@128 STOCK TURBOS.STOCK INTERNALS.BOLT-ONS.

    and it'll still pick up more girls then an ''Si''..i'll while doing it in true stealth form and not making any noise with fart cans! Ha Ha Ha Ha!

    mieden says:

    03:20 PM, 01/27/2010

    judah777,  I'll be quick...

    You speak of HP numbers and specific output but you've said nothing about power delivery.  I (Personally) can turbocharge the hell out of a 1.9L 4 banger and make 500HP.  The problem is, that 500HP would be at a peak RPM and EVERY engine speed between and above that peak would be stupefying lazy and underpowered.  When you can get a 3.0L six to make 300ft/lbs from idle to redline, THEN you can criticize BMW...

    carlos2174 says:

    02:30 PM, 01/27/2010

    can't wait for the facelifted M3...

    magbarn says:

    01:22 PM, 01/27/2010

    topnotch3 says:
    11:40 AM, 01/27/2010
    "Very true..but..as of November 09' a new fuel pump was released..its supposed to be better..you can read up more on it on E90post.com "

    There is a new pump, but we've heard this same song and dance over the last 2 years:  "There's a new pump with part #### that permanently fixes the problem..."  So we'll see.

    icecubefosho says:

    01:21 PM, 01/27/2010

    Alright seriously, people need to stop comparing this to Subarus, Mazdas, and Civics. They aren't cars for serious professionals... Not the ones y'all are thinking about. Sti's Si's, MazdaSpeeds, etc.

    jmaroun says:

    01:03 PM, 01/27/2010

    Let's hope enough posers will buy this heavily badged car to fund the real design of the next 3 series due out in a year or two.  

    Joseph
    San Diego  

    way2goslick says:

    12:53 PM, 01/27/2010

    Not Impressed! Not enough to make me want to trade in my Bad Azz Civic Si! For the extra money I'd save I can turbocharge AND supercharge my Si and run circles around this thing AND STILL have money left over. Face it BMW...'Bad Boyz wit Bad Toyz' today means today's car culture drives imports. Twenty years from now I'm gonna put my hat on backwards, pop in some Fitty Cent, and go rollin' in my Si! I will be wearin' a gold diaper too with the extra dough I saved by not buying this. Puheece!

    topnotch3 says:

    11:47 AM, 01/27/2010

    judah777 says:

    09:37 AM, 01/27/2010

    What a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.

    BMW's engineering department should be TOTALY ASHAMED that they allowed the Marketing department to dictate how to make a car.

    If Mitsubishi and Subaru can produce turbo engines with  specific outputs of 150hp per liter (2liters/300hp) , then why can't BMW ?

    A 3 liter 6 cylinder twin-turbo engine with Direct Fuel Injection should make 450 bhp/400 lb-ft, which would transalte to a specific output of 150hp/133lb-ft per liter of engine displacement.

    AND they have the balls to charge well over 50K for this marketing exercise ?????

    SOLUTION:

    Buy a used 335 Coupe...ADD......1 Quaife LSD....1 set AP Racing brake kit.....2 ball-bearing twin-scroll turbos......SAVE  ALOT of money for tires and insurance.

    BMW is being lead down the road to nowhere by its Marketing fools

    Dont know if you're very with the N54 engine,but it's very capable of making lots of power.. 450hp/400lb-ft torque ? LoL..there's people who have made that power at the WHEELS..on stock turbos..A Tune and full bolt-ons..you dont need ballbearing turbos to make that kind of power out of this engine..not to mention aftermarket turbos arent available for this platform yet.The reason BMW doesnt release this vehicle with this kind of power is for the obvious reason..so the M3 wont lose its share of sales.The n54 is quite a platform and is already being hailed as the next supra in terms of power..feel free to have a look on N54Tech.com or E90Post.com The fastest N54 powered vehicle(135i) runs the 1/4 in 11.2@128mph on STOCK Turbos.The fastest Tune only 335i runs the 1/4 in 11.8@119mph..so compare..13.3-13.6 1/4 mile vs 11s on just a tune like the Juicebox.These little snails are capable of being maxed out at around 19psi..far what BMW normally runs on them.

    icecubefosho says:

    10:38 AM, 01/27/2010

    As for the Aston, its not a great daily driver, the older XKR would be the better choice since its a GT car.

    I would see this as being a deal if its around $45K but $50-57K is a tough sale.

    icecubefosho says:

    10:33 AM, 01/27/2010

    $50K for a bare 335is while you can get a completely loaded G37 (Naturally Aspirated) 6MT for $48-50K.

    Should be a tough sale.

    AJT123 says:

    10:25 AM, 01/27/2010

    I don't like the mirrors one bit.  They remind me of a stripper Accord DX.  The window treatment and grill look great however.

    aston_dbs says:

    10:23 AM, 01/27/2010

    LOL... Almost $60k for BMW 3?!

    BMW definitely wants you to miss this point: It is STILL a 3 Series!!

    For untrained eyes (trust me, there are a lot out there "This is a Lexus, M0R0N! NOT a Civic!!), it's just a 3 series BMW, nah...!

    I don't know about you, but image is pretty important for me.

    For $60K, I'd get a new S5, or for a few thousands more: a used Aston AMV8. The Aston Martin is just plain gorgeous!!

    wongck says:

    09:43 AM, 01/27/2010

    I agree with Frank908 - if you can afford a $50k car, there's really no reason why you can't shell out that extra $9k to get an M3. To be honest I don't really see the point of this car other than as a justification to downgrade the current 335i.

    judah777 says:

    09:37 AM, 01/27/2010

    What a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME.

    BMW's engineering department should be TOTALY ASHAMED that they allowed the Marketing department to dictate how to make a car.

    If Mitsubishi and Subaru can produce turbo engines with  specific outputs of 150hp per liter (2liters/300hp) , then why can't BMW ?

    A 3 liter 6 cylinder twin-turbo engine with Direct Fuel Injection should make 450 bhp/400 lb-ft, which would transalte to a specific output of 150hp/133lb-ft per liter of engine displacement.

    AND they have the balls to charge well over 50K for this marketing exercise ?????

    SOLUTION:

    Buy a used 335 Coupe...ADD......1 Quaife LSD....1 set AP Racing brake kit.....2 ball-bearing twin-scroll turbos......SAVE  ALOT of money for tires and insurance.

    BMW is being lead down the road to nowhere by its Marketing fools.
      

    sebastien2 says:

    09:25 AM, 01/27/2010

    Thank you very much for us europeans! No BMW 335is delivered here!!!! Why please?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????In fact, the BMW 335is is not built for France and Europe. Can someone tell me why????
    In an other case we'we got the 318i Coupé!

    e90_m3 says:

    09:07 AM, 01/27/2010

    $50k base for the 335is coupe would be well within striking range of a stripper M3 sedan. Granted, the 335is coupe would likely come with more standard items that are options for lesser (328/335) and higher (M3) models, but a $50k starting price is quite high. A stripper M3 sedan starts at below $55k. If you do European Delivery it would be right at the $50k mark, and dealers are quite willing to deal on M3s. Big dealer discounts for the 335is that just came out? I'm not sure.
    A M3 with NO options is still one heck of a car.

    frank908 says:

    07:52 AM, 01/27/2010

    I think if I were comfortably in the market for a car that was 50-grand, then an extra $9000 grand truly shouldn't be an issue. Think about it, it's not like I'm shopping for a mid tier automobile where your crunching the numbers and making comparisons based on features (i.e. Accord/Camary/Altima).

    So knowing that, I'd have to pass on the 335is and go right for the M3. I can't wrap my mind around the after-market looks it has. Even in all-black, it would still look like I spent all day ordering parts online.

    Black exhaust tips? c'mon.

    joefrompa says:

    07:39 AM, 01/27/2010

    No offense tonka, but I disagree. An automatic review is basically "Clean, crisp, smooth shifts", "6 gears".

    A manual review is: "Long throw pedal travel with easy and light take-up", "Medium throw shifter with rubbery engagement points", "Encourages fast driving/good in daily driving but not encouraging for more sprited use" etc.

    To me, you get more information from the manual review. Just my .02. Of course, both is best :)

    matt310 says:

    07:30 AM, 01/27/2010

    If they really wanted to compete with the S4, they'd offer the setup in a sedan, but then it'd probably be called something ridiculous like the 335is xdrive35 and have even more badges than this 'new' one does.  Seriously though, how does this steal the S4's thunder when it's still a rear wheel drive coupe with no LSD?  You have to step up to the M3 for that, and I think Audi's RS 5 will be a far better option at that level.

    jazzor says:

    07:29 AM, 01/27/2010

    Can I have that much torque in the M3 please BMW?

    Thanks!

    magbarn says:

    07:16 AM, 01/27/2010

    m89 says:

    09:34 PM, 01/26/2010

    Sorry accidentally hit enter! It has a beautiful six cylinder engine which BMW is renowned for and already great handling that it doesn't really justify going to the M3 other than the name.  Unless you're taking it to the track, you're not going to notice a big enough difference as a daily driver.


    Unless you care about reliablity... Sadly the M3 is more reliable than the current N54 due to the crappy HPFP (google it)  Remains to be seen if BMW has fixed it in the 335is.  Doubtful as they've had 4 years to fix it and still haven't.  Many have had several pump failures already....

    sjaieve says:

    07:12 AM, 01/27/2010

    Great job BMW, you wanted to steal the thunder from the S4 and you did it.

    tonkatoytruck says:

    07:11 AM, 01/27/2010

    My only comment is that these BMW reviews just need to give up on reporting with manual transmissions. Only 5% of BMW buyers choose a manual transmission. So, if you want to provide valuable information on BMW's, or any car for that matter, stick with cars that have automatics if you want to please the other 95% of the owners. Its just math. If you want to cater to the 5% who are under 30, still live at home, and had mom and dad buy them a BMW, then keep including manual transmission reviews like C&D.

    sebastien2 says:

    06:59 AM, 01/27/2010

    In fact, the BMW 335is is not built for France and Europe. Can someone tell me why????
    In an other case we'we got the 318i Coupé!

    sebastien2 says:

    06:55 AM, 01/27/2010

    Thank you very much for us europeans! No BMW 335is delivered here!!!! Why please?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    ba27 says:

    06:40 AM, 01/27/2010

    I actually find it nigh-on comical that BMW refuses to equip this powerful RWD coupe with a proper limited slip differential.

    Think that's because that would make the M3 largely redundant??  

    Naaaahhh - CAN'T be!  ;-)

    m3shmem3 says:

    06:29 AM, 01/27/2010

    17 turbos in 7 cars? Which one has 5? Is it the white one? Can I have it?

    jayrandall says:

    06:18 AM, 01/27/2010

    The cabin is still a borefest.  Nice job improving the cup holders too.  Infiniti (still) blows BMW away on interior ergonomics and design.

    kingisback350 says:

    05:44 AM, 01/27/2010

    ITs an ultimate car made only for the rich... why even bother unless you have the money... The G37 is more affordable to buy...

    joefrompa says:

    04:56 AM, 01/27/2010

    Hmmm, well, let's compare:

    The 2003-2006 BMW e46 performance package was about $4k extra and came with -

    - 6-speed manual transmission with shorter final drive ratio and stock short-shifter
    - A different suspension than the sport package, with stiffer mountings and overall more "sport" oriented feel

    - New camshafts and exhaust and ecu tuning, adding some HP and torque across the entire band and making it sound better

    -Alcantara seating, shift boot, steering wheel and I think headliner

    - Unique interior trim

    - Unique exterior body kit

    - Unique exterior 18" wheels with serious rubber

    ...

    In performance testing, it basically handled like a four door M3 and it was about .5 seconds faster to 60 and the 1/4 mile than the regular 330i sedan.

    It offered a higher level of performance in the sedan than was available without an M3 version.

    For all these reasons, it was a generally very desirable package for people seeking 4-door fun.

    What does this package offer? Less overall revisions, less actual gain, a package that can be had in the M3 for not much more $$$ and alot more gain all around....

    It's weak marketing. And yes, some BMW fans will flock to it because they want the rated extra 20 HP, the overboost feature, and the exclusivity of the package.

    sebastien2 says:

    01:49 AM, 01/27/2010

    Thank you very much for us europeans! No BMW 335is delivered here!!!! Why please?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

    ledwinka says:

    12:25 AM, 01/27/2010

    The best investment advise that can be learned from this article is to buy BMW stocks rather than BMW 335iS. The masterful ability for BMW to have people buy a 3er priced in the $50k to $60k max is just amazing. Frankly, you can go out and buy a great looking RWD competitor (won't name names here) at a lower price range, or get a well-used CPO Bimmer somewhere out there.
    For the cash you saved, just buy the BMW shares.
    You know I am joking, right? :) Were you a person to buy the 335iS, you should have the financial ability of someone who would have purchased Apple stocks when Steve Jobs came back from Pixar in mid 1990s. Yeah, AAPL prices will go up again tomorrow, and SOMEONE will go out and buy the 335iS with new found riches.

    kyolml says:

    11:13 PM, 01/26/2010

    Solution, go to get my 335i now before the 2011 coming in....

    m3shmem3 says:

    10:40 PM, 01/26/2010

    Something about that price does really annoy me. I'd like to trade up my '07 coupe just for the exhaust alone. Apart from that this is nothing more than cosmetics, a firmware upgrade, and, quite frankly, the cooling system that this car should have had from the start. Very tempting, BMW, but at this price I'll eat my words (and my screenname), and find a certified M3 with 4 digits on the odometer. ....or maybe the pricey VW with the supercharger...no, one heresy at a time.

    charlesb says:

    10:26 PM, 01/26/2010

    So you're basically calling this "is" offering an overpriced package passed off as exclusivity.  One would guess that the  BMW afficianados will take to it like flies to a cow pie.   I mean they shell through the wazoo for plus one wheels and "shadow black" trim so this one is a real bargain at seven grand.

    m89 says:

    09:34 PM, 01/26/2010

    Sorry accidentally hit enter! It has a beautiful six cylinder engine which BMW is renowned for and already great handling that it doesn't really justify going to the M3 other than the name.  Unless you're taking it to the track, you're not going to notice a big enough difference as a daily driver.

    m89 says:

    09:31 PM, 01/26/2010

    I personally would take a 335is over the M3.  Not only is it cheaper, but it's got less weight hanging at the front, a beautiful six cylinder engine

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    Vehicle Tested:

    2011 BMW 335is

    Base Price:

    $50,525 (coupe); $59,075 (convertible)

    Engine:

    Turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-6

    Gearbox:

    Six-speed manual or seven-speed automated manual

    Power:

    320 hp @ 5,900 rpm; 332 lb-ft of torque @ 1,500 rpm

    EPA Rating:

    NA

    On Sale:

    April 2010 (convertible); June 2010 (coupe)

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    Specs & Performance

    Vehicle
    Model year2011
    MakeBMW
    Model335is
    Style2 dr Coupe (3.0-liter 6cyl 6M)
    Base MSRP$50,525
    Options on test vehicleNavigation system, Premium package, heated seats, comfort access, satellite radio
    As-tested MSRP$55,175
    Drivetrain
    Drive typeRear-wheel drive
    Engine typeFront-mounted longitudinal inline-6
    Displacement (cc/cu-in)2,979 cc (181.8 cu-in)
    Block/head materialAluminum/aluminum
    ValvetrainDouble overhead camshaft with four valves per cylinder and variable valve timing
    Compression ratio (x:1)10.2:1
    Redline (rpm)7,000
    Horsepower (hp @ rpm)320 @ 5,900
    Torque (lb-ft @ rpm)332 @ 1,500 (Overboost: 370)
    Transmission typeSix-speed manual
    Transmission and axle ratios (x:1)I = 4.055; II = 2.396; III = 1.582; IV = 1.192; V = 1.000; VI = 0.872; Final Drive = 3.077
    Chassis
    Suspension, frontMacPherson strut, coil springs, stabilizer bar
    Suspension, rearMultilink, coil springs, stabiizer bar
    Steering typePower-assisted rack-and-pinion
    Steering ratio (x:1)16.0:1
    Tire brandBridgestone
    Tire modelPotenza RE050A
    Tire typeSummer performance
    Tire size, front225/40 R18 88W RSC
    Tire size, rear255/35 R18 90W RSC
    Wheel size18-by-8 inches front -- 18-by-8.5 inches rear
    Wheel materialAluminum alloy
    Brakes, front13.7-inch ventilated discs
    Brakes, rear13.3-inch ventilated discs
    Fuel Consumption
    EPA fuel economy (mpg)17/26 (est.)
    Fuel tank capacity (U.S. gal.)16.1
    Dimensions & Capacities
    Curb weight, mfr. claim (lbs.)3,571
    Length (in.)181.9
    Width (in.)70.2
    Height (in.)54.1
    Wheelbase (in.)108.7
    Track, front (in.)59.1
    Track, rear (in.)59.3
    Turning circle (ft.)36.1
    Legroom, front (in.)41.8
    Legroom, rear (in.)33.7
    Headroom, front (in.)38.4
    Headroom, rear (in.)36.8
    Shoulder room, front (in.)55.3
    Shoulder room, rear (in.)51.9
    Seating capacity4
    Cargo volume (cu-ft)11
    Warranty
    Bumper-to-bumper4 years/50,000 miles
    Powertrain4 years/50,000 miles
    Corrosion12 years/Unlimited miles
    Roadside assistance4 years/Unlimited miles
    Free scheduled maintenance4 years/50,000 miles
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