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  1. DrB

    Glenn Beck has taught me to educate myself. I’ve been reading a great deal lately (Arguing with Idiots; Common Sense; 5000 Year Leap; Liberal Fascism; New Deal Raw Deal; Atlas Shrugged; American Progressivism; Woodrow Wilson; Roots of Modern Liberalism). Just looking into Ron Paul — like what I read so far.

    Ron Paul and John Galt 2012?

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    1. DS

      How are you educating yourself by reading books by author’s who are only speaking from one side of the table? It seems to me that you are only reading opinions that happen to support your stance. How can you be sure that any of the left OR right wing propaganda is based on fact? I could find books all day that support or denounce any ideal or topic of interest. You should try peer reviewed journals. Peer review (also known as refereeing) is the process of subjecting an author’s scholarly work, research, or ideas to the scrutiny of others who are experts in the same field. Peer review requires a community of experts in a given (and often narrowly defined) field, who are qualified and able to perform IMPARTIAL review. It’s not a perfect system, but it’s the best one we have for assuring that politics and personal opinions don’t cloud actual facts. However, if all you are looking for is reassurance then proceed with Glenn Becks method. I’m sure he is fair and balanced LoL!

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      1. SS

        Peer reviewed = tightly controlled.

        Hello Climategate

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      2. The Other Side

        Yeah, we should delegate our reasoning to ‘experts’.

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        1. Forest

          Riiight, we should delegate our reasoning to ‘idiots’. What do all these ‘experts’ know? I mean all their ‘schooling’ and ‘intelligence’ and complicated stuff like that – I mean what good are they?

          Next time, do everyone else a favor and if you are sick or get in an accident, forgo going to an ‘expert’ to get treated – let us know how it goes, alright?

          Gotcha, it was bunch of ‘non-experts’ who pioneered medical advancements, developed the bomb, understood electricity, created semiconductors, developed the internet, visualized black holes and landed man on the moon…

          I didn’t know ‘free marketers’ adhered to the ‘put a thousand monkeys in a room’ ideology, no wonder Paulites are always on the outside waiting for the sky to fall.

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        2. Jeremy

          Yet, it was the “Paulites” (Austrian School of economic thinking) that saw the Crash of 08 coming, while the rest of the economists got blind-sided by it! Majority of the economists didn’t even know we were in a recession till the media told them! I think most people dont like Austrian Economics because if followed it, they would have to actually be responsible. Not a very common trait in America anymore!

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        3. Forest

          “Yet, it was the “Paulites” (Austrian School of economic thinking) that saw the Crash of 08 coming, while the rest of the economists got blind-sided by it!”

          Now THAT is total BS and I will debunk in two ways and provide one insight on your final comment:

          1) When has a Ronbot EVER called for anything BUT a crash/social uprising/end of the republic? For god’s sakes open your eyes – all Ron Paul does is bemoan about the coming cataclysm and virtual economic rapture. How about his ‘prophetic call’ back in 1983 “we can expect core inflation rates to rise over the next decade, and at an accelerated rate—so that 10 years from now we can expect cheering in the media when the inflation rate falls below 50 percent.”

          Really? We can ‘expect’ that? Are we cheering about an inflation rate below 50% right now? Sorry, that is what happens when you have an Ob/Gyn teaching you economics.

          In summation, after you pat yourself on the back, realize there are boundless examples of FAILED predictions by Paulites – and not the garden variety, but of the ‘blood in the streets!’/'cats and dogs living together!’/'buy gold and lead NOWWWW!’ type – demonstrating not an understanding of economics and reality but more a perverse hatred of ‘the system’.

          2) Who are ‘the rest of the economists’ that got blindsided? Clearly you don’t understand that in any discussion of this nature there are plenty of voices and obviously your prism is exceptionally narrow.

          You have never heard Bill Gross, Paul Krugman, Nouriel Roubini, or John Hussman? No? How about Paulson, Faber, or Shiller? Since then, some of those economists have revised their intermediate term outlook based upon the changing macroenvironment while, shocker, Ron Paul is STILL calling for the end of the world.

          3) Not correct, people like being responsible for themselves, and that is really the only thing appealing ABOUT Austrian Economics – otherwise it does not apply and doesn’t function in the real world. I mean, is there a reason that not one country in the WORLD follows it? And please don’t give me this ‘TPTB’ crap.

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        4. Forest

          Here is another FANTASTICALLY ACCURATE prediction by Ron Paul of what was going to happen in the 1980′s:

          “When that fateful event occurs, as it did in Germany in the early 1920s, prices and money could spiral upward to infinity and it could cost $10 billion to buy a loaf of bread. America could experience the veritable holocaust of runaway inflation, a cataclysm which would make the Depression of the 1930s—let alone an ordinary recession—seem like a tea party.”

          AHAHAHHAHAHAHA *wheeze* AHAHAHAHAHAH Infinity! AHAHHAHAHAHA TEN BILLION FOR A LOAF OF BREAD!

          How’s that scary changey stuff working for ya?

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        5. Jeremy

          Look around you….watch television! This system we are using (Keynesian Economics) is coming to an end. Crushing debt, dollar is losing value, and countries are moving away from the US economy and the Dollar!
          He may be doom and gloom, but America is in need of a renaissance and and some new ideas is needed. We need politicians to start getting critical about how and why we are destorying the republic to create some empire.
          Granted, some of his predictions didnt not happen but thats not to say that Washington hasnt taken steps of avoid the issues that he brought up publically.
          He may not be perfect……..but the status quo (Republicans/Democrats) are destorying this country!!!

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        6. Forest

          “This system we are using (Keynesian Economics) is coming to an end.” … “are destorying (sic) this country!!!”

          Wrong. The sky is not falling chicken little. A nasty recession yes, but one that we are working out of. For sure we have some budget concerns, but these also are issues that CAN and WILL be taken care of by both a combination of increased tax revenues once we are coming out of this recession and for increased political pressure once people STOP being chicken little and start being realistic about what we can do about our entitlement obligations.

          “dollar is losing value”
          Wrong. If you want to decry over the dollar why not look at some actual facts instead of just tossing out rhetoric. Here are two snippets, I included a folksy one to appeal to this audience:

          “For all the concern over the $1.6 trillion U.S. budget deficit and record debt load, the dollar is as valuable now as 35 years ago.”
          “To quote Mark Twain, the reports of the dollar’s demise have been greatly exaggerated,”
          http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aVbhDaStbA1Q&pos=2

          “but thats not to say that Washington hasnt taken steps of avoid the issues that he brought up publically.”

          Also wrong – in 1982 Ron Paul said that ‘if we do not adopt the Gold Standard NOW it will cost TEN BILLION DOLLARS to buy a loaf of bread.’ Congress did not adopt a Gold Standard, and Ron Paul was horrifically, terrifyingly WRONG. Was a loaf of bread TEN BILLION DOLLARS back in the 1980′s? How far was he off? Like TEN BILLION PERCENT off?

          If your doctor said you had cancer and had a ‘ONE IN A BILLION CHANCE AT SURVIVAL’ and you found out he was TERRIFYINGLY WRONG and really he had no idea what he was talking about, would you ever trust his expertise again? Think about it.

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        7. longshotlouie

          If MattForest wants to delegate his reasoning to some designated ‘experts’ then that answers the questions we’ve had about him all along. It also points out, again, his inability to comprehend what he reads. The more simple the sentence, the tougher time he has comprehending.

          Stand tall while defending the status quo, Mattie.

          SLMAO

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    2. Fred the Protectionist

      Glen Beck is a frelling loon.

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  2. Bobby Ritter

    Dear Ron Paul,

    Should we think about a new money system. Something along the lines of a ctedit system instead of a debit system. What I mean by that is bible based system on at least 50% barter Instead of just money to move our ecomome along. Iam thinking something like E bay and dollars issued interist free. The banking system being a non profit system just moving the money for people not controling it. Just a thought. Thanks Bobby

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    1. Jeremy

      Check into Binary Economics. It holds potential for the new paradigm!

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      1. Fred the Protectionist

        Gawd.

        money is an abstraction, it doesn’t really matter what system is used.

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        1. Jeremy

          Actually, what system we use does matter! Take a look at the current system. Money is created in out thin air (inflation) and is used for who knows what. Interest rates are used at exploiting rates. Interest and inflation siphon the wealth off the middle and lower classes by the state and wealthy upper class; while that upper class have access to that wealth to generate more wealth. America has tent cities popping up all over the country…..and there is little effort by Washington to correct this. Many of us can argue over which system could replace the one we have, but I see no reason to assume that the one in place now should remain in place.

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        2. Fred the Protectionist

          If there is monetary inflation, then where is the wage inflation? Hmmmm?

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        3. SS

          Freddie, are you a Keynesian or a Neo-Keynesian?

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        4. Fred the Protectionist

          Keynesian? Are you calling me African? How…dare…you

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        5. Jeremy

          Ahhh lets see, as prices rise, I sure dont see my wages rising! Why would that be? (end sarcasm)

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        6. Fred the Protectionist

          Well obviously it sure isn’t cause of monetary inflation, otherwise wages would rise also.

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        7. Christine

          The Coming Collapse of the Middle Class
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A

          She explains what has happened to household budgets over time, incrementalism at it again.

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        8. Jeremy

          Then tell me, what motives employers to raise wages simply because prices rise, especailly in a time of high unemployment?

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    2. Fred the Protectionist

      “Dear Ron Paul,

      Should we think about a new money system. Something along the lines of a ctedit system instead of a debit system. What I mean by that is bible based system on at least 50% barter Instead of just money to move our ecomome along. Iam thinking something like E bay and dollars issued interist free. The banking system being a non profit system just moving the money for people not controling it. Just a thought. Thanks Bobby”

      You forgot to get on your hands and knees when you pray to their God, and psssst buddy, you are unclean when you entered into their holy of holies.

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      1. SS

        Envy has paralyzed your brain.
        Desperation is not pretty.

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        1. Fred the Protectionist

          I do not envy the pathetic worshiping the pathetic.

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        2. longshotlouie

          And yet you continue to defend them and worship them.

          What’s up with that?

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  3. Sara

    Please see zeitgeist and zeitgeist the addendum. And if you can handle it thewakeupproject.com. I think Ron has hit the nail on the head. We need to look at the big picture of what’s happening. Best of Luck Ron! Wish we had more like you.

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  4. redneck-vet

    check out redneck-vet.blogspot.com for solution to people in office not listening

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  5. Fattymccatty

    The Governments virtual ATM.
    (possibly a conspiracy, possibly truth, check the facts and decide for yourself)

    The US Government keeps on offering bonds in record numbers and who is one of the biggest purchaser os said bonds. The large financial institutions that are beholden to or outright run by the very same government. So the smoke and mirrors runs like this the FED passes funds to the financials at low interest rates, who in turn pass the funds right back to the government, keeping them in operation. Just numbers passing from entity to another, never having to create anything inbetween except air. A virtual supply of funds for nothing.

    There is no government outcry about these banks not making loans, but instead buying bonds, funding the government?

    Banks to big to fail are only getting bigger and new legislation in the works giving the FED more power in taking over banks, creating new avenues for funneling cash?

    The FED fighting tooth and nail to resist oversight, sponsored by Ron Paul?

    Did Madoff create the biggest ponzi scheme or will he be eclisped by the US Government?

    Did the Government create a virtual ATM with unlimited funds or a house of cards that will eventually collapse under the weight of so much debt?

    Decide for yourself?

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  6. Herewe Goagain

    Obama birth certificate links buried on Google News site

    Joseph Farah will be on Michael Savage’s radio program today to discuss what he calls “a broad pattern of Internet search engine censorship” that began today by Google, Bing and others blocking WND’s extensive coverage of questions surrounding Barack Obama’s eligibility for office.

    “In more than 12 years of Internet experience, I have never seen anything like this,” said Farah. “As of today, all the major search engines systematically began scrubbing our content. This happened at the very moment this story broke into the mainstream.”

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  7. Herewe Goagain
  8. Herewe Goagain

    82% say, Where’s The Birth Certificate?
    http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/24/hot-seat-obamas-birth-certificate/

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  9. Christine

    Remember this? “I don’t want to see us fall backwards.” Did she know what was about to happen to America? She’s privy to the secret societies’ agendas.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qgWH89qWks

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  10. Christine

    Just perhaps the FED, all man-made governments of the world will all spiral out of control from this economic disaster…when even they will not be able to manage what is about to occur worldwide.

    We will need to rely on our own skills, abilities and network to make it through some very rough waters. We have some very warped mined people in our midst trying to run the world. How audacious is that concept!? Remember that they are the cause and never the cure. Anything they offer as solutions when things get tough is not what we would ordinarily choose if not under duress. So even under duress we need to keep control of our minds, remember that, and choose wisely. Their solutions are just where they want us to go so they can put in place all the aspects of their new world of surfdom.

    People will naturally band together to help each other. Just like the American response to the controlled demolition of 911, so is it and will it be when there is a mass realization to the inevitability of this controlled demolition of the dollar and the ill affects upon all countries, humanity.

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  11. Russ

    We need a “new department” to oversee the federal government.

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  12. Christine

    The Collapse of the Middle Class

    Informative evolution of changes from just a generation ago.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akVL7QY0S8A&feature=channel

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  13. longshotlouie

    Putting Love in the ReLoveution
    http://www.ronpaulsingles.com/

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