Gangs go on rampage in Glasgow cinema during screening of 'Neds'

By Jonathan Brown

Peter Mullan drew on his own experience of gang violence in the making of Neds

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Peter Mullan drew on his own experience of gang violence in the making of Neds

Peter Mullan's Neds, a gritty depiction of life growing up among the gangs of Glasgow's notoriously tough housing estates, has been hailed as a brutal masterpiece of cinematic realism. In the city where it is set, it seems the trouble – and the Neds – have not been confined to the screen alone.

Managers at Glasgow's flagship cinema have been forced to employ security guards to quell disturbances during screenings of the low-budget cult movie which was last night named London Evening Standard Best Film. Cinema-goers at Cineworld in the city centre complained that showings had to be halted because rival gangs of swearing youths, not dissimilar to those portrayed in the film, had been throwing popcorn and spraying strong lager and wine at each other.

One staff member described chaotic scenes at screenings. "It's been a nightmare – it seems that all the Neds in Scotland want to see the film. We've got rival gangs pitching up looking for trouble with each other. One of the first screenings of Neds had to be halted halfway through."

A Cineworld spokeswoman confirmed that security had been brought in but insisted the problems had now been quelled. "We did have a couple of disturbances at a couple of the screenings but it was very quickly dealt with. Everyone who experienced disruption received complimentary tickets and a refund," she said.

The term Neds, now considered an acronym for non-educated delinquent, is a derogatory phrase applied to Scotland's white working-class youth and is comparable to the English pejorative chav.

Mullan, the director of Neds, grew up in Glasgow and was a member of a gang which he later described as "the usual pointless, tribal, violent expurgation of adolescent anger".

The film is closely modelled on his own experiences of casual adolescent violence in the 1970s, and Mullan also acts, playing a drunken, abusive father at the head of a large Catholic family – a character inspired by his own father.

Last night in London Neds beat Another Year, Mike Leigh's portrait of ageing, as seen through the prism of the seasons, and Sylvain Chomet's The Illusionist to be named Best Film. It has already won the top prize at the San Sebastian Film Festival.

Conor McCarron, who plays the film's leading character, was beaten to the Most Promising Newcomer prize by Ben Wheatley, the co-writer and director of Down Terrace.

The largely disenfranchised demographic received Neds achieved a degree of respectability when the word became one of 1,5000 new additions to Collins English Dictionary in 2005, where it is described thus: "a young working-class male who dresses in casual sports clothes".

The Scottish BBC comedy show Chewin' The Fat featured a sketch where the news was translated for neds, using typical slang terms. Though the ned may exist throughout Scotland, the terminology remains proprietary to Glasgow. Not to be outdone, Edinburgh has its "schemies", while in Dundee the Roma word Gadgie is more common.

In 2003, the Scottish Socialist Party MSP Rosie Kane tabled a question to the Scottish Parliament condemning use of the word "ned", which she said was degrading and insulting to young people.

  • Yeah and how many of them live there or even visit, this is a bit like Sean Connery when he opens his big mouth about Scotland all the way from his home in the Bahamas
  • llienomot
    Your welcome.
  • llienomot
    A fair point zochoten, I imagine there are aspects of most, if not all cities, which the poor in particular would wish to escape. As to your question, from the sports section of the list; Kenny Dalglish, Benny Lynch, Barry Ferguson, Mo Johnston, Jim Watt, Danny McGrain, Alex MacDonald, Willie Johnston, Ronnie Simpson, Jim Craig, Bobby Murdoch, Stevie Chalmers, Bertie Auld, Alex McLeish and Paul Weir all lived in or around Glasgow at the hight of their careers. One or two of the footballers actually transferred back to Glasgow whilst at the top. Sir Thomas Lipton returned to Glasgow in triumph having made his fortune in America. Of the actors and comedians many have maintained their Glasgow roots but have had no choice but to travel in order to work. Likewise with the musicians. Personally I reckon that all of those on the list became famous as a result of the talent they were born with, hard work, luck and the good fortune to have been born in Glasgow.
  • zochoten
    llienomot ?I reckon that all of those on the list became famous as a result of the talent they were born with, hard work, luck and the good fortune to have been born in Glasgow.? A true and admirable son (daughter?) who has done credit in his (her?) own way to Glasgow. ?and the good fortune to have been born in Glasgow.? Brilliantly put. Thank you for your reply.
  • zochoten
    I do not mean to disparage Glasgow but how many of this list actually live in the city and how many became successful while still in the city? Maybe they became successful in an effort to get out of Glasgow. It wouldn?t be the only city in the world where people work hard to escape from it.
  • llienomot
    Spot on trottitout, he's a right numpty.
  • What a load of shite, England and the rest of the UK are just as bad. For your information, by the way, gang culture existed in Scotland even before the first world war, and was exacerbated by the destruction of Scottish industry by the Tories in the 80's.
  • izabellatarte
    Dinnae ken whit ye mean. Ahm no puttin masel doon. Ahm jus sayin the film's shite
  • izabellatarte
    Dinnae ken whit ye mean. Ahm no puttin masel doon. Ahm jus sayin the film is shite
  • izabellatarte
    trottitout Dinnae ken whit ye mean. Ahm no puttin ma sel doon. ah jist think its rubbish
  • izabellatarte
    Shame on you
  • It's a backronym, not an acronym.
  • BOAGUSDOAGLIO1874
    that film was sentimental slosh for juveniles - have you ever grown up ?
  • BOAGUSDOAGLIO1874
    ignore the creeps who are mis-calling you ... you are entitled to your opinion . You are being a little haersh though .... I thought Liverpool would be full of scallys till I visited it and found the city and its people to be rather nice , quite often , albeitthe " scally "aspect did undoubtedly exist ! Cheers .
  • BOAGUSDOAGLIO1874
    what do you know about it , pal ?
  • DorothyErskine67
    Thanks: we have our own Gritty Realism: we can guess what's being said.
  • indylux
    The biggest problem with Glasgow was always attitude, and most of the time that started in the council chamber and filtered through the rest of society. Sadly the city was always let down with absolutely useless Labour Party drones. This coupled with high unemployment has resulted in some of the worse housing estates in Europe. On the plus side though Glasgow has friendly people, a great music scene, good restaurants and is a place I'd happily visit again.
  • trottitout
    Possibly the most ignorant and meaningless comment ever contributed to the subject.
  • indylux
    Non-educated is the correct term. I spent four years being threatened almost every Friday or Saturday night by neds who " didna like students". However, there were two methods of actually avoiding being beaten up (1) ignore them - this lack of interest in their childish violence often shocked them into doing nothing (b) the use of big words - it simply blew their tiny brains. It should be no surprise that we have a problem with neds when you look at the sort of people on the Glasgow or Dundee City councils (esp back in the 90s and early 2000s), in both cases the street neds were probably more able to articulate some kind of vision than any of the neds in the respective council chambers.
  • Haha, Cumbernauld is not a beautiful and nice aspect of the Glaswegian suburbs (if you can really count it as a suburb, in the same way that Essex is a London suburb). It's a dire, ugly and poorly built estate with a grade listed shopping centre, which of course can no longer be destroyed.
  • llienomot
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Billy Boyd - actor also a member of band * Matt McGinn - Scottish folk singer * Lonnie Donegan - skiffle musician * Amy McDonald - singer * Archie Fisher - Scottish folk singer * Cilla Fisher - singer and part of the singing kettle * Mary Lee - singer and long term partner of Jack Milroy of Francie and Josie * Adam McNaughton - Scottish folk singer - Jeely piece song; Skyscraper Wean. * Hue and Cry * Lena Martell ARTS Actors and Comedians * Billy Connolly - comedian and actor * Bill Paterson - actor (Comfort and Joy, Gregory's Girl, Miss Potter) * Robert Carlyle - actor (Trainspotting) * Gerard Kelly - actor and panto favourite * Billy Boyd - actor (Lord of the Rings) * Lorraine Kelly - TV presenter * Carol Smillie - TV presenter * Craig Ferguson - actor, comedian * Gregor Fisher - comedian, actor (Love Actually, Rab C Nesbitt) * Elaine C Smith - comic actor (Rab C Nesbitt) * Ford Kiernan - comic actor - Chewing the Fat and Still Game (Jack) * Greg Hemphill - comic actor - Chewing the Fat and Still Game (Victor) * Jane McCarry - comic actor (Isa) Still Game * Paul Riley - comic actor (Winston) Still Game * David McCallum - movie star (Man from Uncle) * Gordon Jackson - actor (Upstairs, Downstairs and The Professionals) * Robbie Coltrane - actor/comedian (Cracker and Harry Potter) * Stanley Baxter - comic actor * Rikki Fulton - comic actor * Jimmy Logan - comedian * Sir Jeremy Isaacs - TV producer - BAFTA and Emmy Award winner * James McAvoy - actor (The Last King of Scotland) * Frankie Boyle, Comedian * John Barrowman - actor, musical performer and TV presenter * Gerard James Butler - actor and singer * Dorothy Paul - comedian/actor * Ian Tough - one half of the Krankies - also known as 'Wee Jimmy Krankie's' father * Duncan Macrae - actor (Casino Royale, 1967) * David O'Hara - actor (Braveheart, The Devil's Own, Hotel Rwanda) * Tommy Flanagan - actor (Braveheart and Gladiator) * David Hayman - actor * Jack Milroy - comedian * Donald Meek (1878 to1946) - actor. Starred in over 100 Hollywood Films. * Molly Weir, actress * Tony Curran, actor * Alex Norton, DCI Matt Burke, Taggart * Gary Lewis - actor, Gangs of New York, Rebus, My Name is Joe, Orphans, Billy Elliot Poets * Liz Lochhead, poet and playwright * Ivor Cutler, poet, songwriter and humorist * Edwin Morgan, poet Novelists/Writers * James Kelman - Booker Prize Winner 1994 * Grant Morrison - comic book writer: New X-Men; The Invisibles; Animal Man * Christopher Brookmyre - Winner of the 'First Blood Award' - for best first crime novel of the year * Karen Campbell - The Twilight Time and After the Fire * Alasdair Gray - Scottish writer and artist. Best known for his novel, Lanark, published in 1981. * Clifford Hanley - Journalist, Novelist best known for his novel "Dancing in the Streets". * Tom Weir - author, broadcaster and climber * Denise Mina - Scottish crime writer Theatre/Opera Directors * David McVicar - Theatre and Opera Director OTHERS * Harry Benson - Award winning photojournalist ARCHITECTS * Charles Rennie Mackintosh - architect and designer * Alexander 'Greek' Thomson - architect and designer * Archibald Leitch - architect (football stadiums) ARTISTS * Hannah Frank - artist and sculptor * David Donaldson - Queen's painter and Limner BUSINESS * Sir William Burrell - shipping magnate and philanthropist * James McGill - businessman and philanthropist * Sir Thomas Lipton - creator of the famous Lipton tea brand * Lord Macfarlane of Bearsden - entrepreneur * Willie Haughey - businessman and philanthropist * Miss (Kate) Cranston - development of Tea Rooms and major patron of our famous architect and designer Charles Rennie MacKintosh and his wife Margaret MacDonald SPORTS * Sir Alex Ferguson - Football legend and manager * Kenny Dalglish - Footballer and manager * Tommy Docherty - Footballer and manager * Benny Lynch - Scotland's first boxing champion * Barry Ferguson - Footballer * Mo Johnston - Footballer * Jim Watt - Boxer * Danny McGrain - Footballer * Glasgow Mid Argyll - The 1973 Camanachd winning team - shinty * Members of the 1972 UEFA Cup Winners Cup team (Rangers FC): Alex MacDonald and Willie Johnston * Members of The Lisbon Lions (Celtic FC) winners of the European Cup, to date the only Scottish team to do so: Ronnie Simpson, Jim Craig, Bobby Murdoch, Stevie Chalmers and Bertie Auld * Alex McLeish - Scotland Manager and footballer * Paul Weir - two-time world champion boxer * John Wark - Scottish footballer * Gerry Hughes - first deaf yachtsman to cross the Atlantic Ocean * Andy Murray - Scotland's highest ranked tennis player. * Arthur Graham - footballer - Aberdeen, Leeds United, Manchester United, Bradford City and Scotland. POLITICS * Gordon Brown - former Prime Minister (UK) * Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman - former Prime Minister (UK) 1905 -1908 * Donald Dewar - former Secretary of State for Scotland, First Minister * Sir Menzies Campbell, former Leader of the Liberal Democrats * Sir John A MacDonald, Canada's first Prime Minister * The Rt. Hon. Michael J Martin MP - the first Scottish Speaker in the House of Commons * Jimmy Reid - Trade Union Activist, Orator, Politician, Journalist. AVIATORS * Sir Arthur Whitten Brown - navigated the first successful non-stop flight across the Atlantic Ocean with Alcock (pilot) * James (Jim) Allan Mollison - pioneer aviator DETECTIVES * Allan Pinkerton - created the first detective agency in the USA (Pinkerton Agency - famous for private eye logo). FICTIONAL CHARACTERS * Scrooge McDuck (Disney cartoon character)- the richest duck in the world; Donald Duck's Uncle; and Great Uncle to Huey, Duey and Luey * Groundskeeper Willie - from the Simpsons (allegedly)
  • llienomot
    'Neds' is awfy Mornungside. With you there gliffothewisp. The term most likely used these days by the people in question themselves is 'nut-job'.
  • Glasgow is an amazing city. The fact my fiancee is Glaswegian has nothing to do with it, it is actually a great place, especially the west end.
  • You get dogs, then you get dugs. No real spelling, as it's more of a said thing. A dog is a nice cuddly licky thing that you throw a ball for. To paraphrase Kevin Bridges, a dug is a council estate mutt, with a ridiculous name in the vein of "Sasha" who would bite your balls off at any point because they're poorly trained and possibly abused.
  • trottitout
    Gregory's Girl is a good example of a film that is 'beautiful and nice' about Glasgow ( dormitory town of Cumbernauld, Abronhill area). As for your query as to how we see ourselves in Glasgow. If you had done any background research for your film perhaps you could have killed two birds with one stone: you would know the answer to your question, and you may have had a better reception to your advert to make your film about Glasgow.
  • timspooner
    Never grew up then.......
  • bullseyed
    Tim Not Nice But Dim......
  • trottitout
    Boagusdoaglio1874 is a total heid- banger. Well-worth ignorin'.
  • gliffothewisp
    "... in Dundee the Roma word Gadgie is more common. " Gadgie? A Roma word? Blethers. In my young day, a gadgie was an elderly, working class geezer. What happened to such glorious phrases as 'skelly bam pot' or 'glaikit wee nyaf' or even 'heid banger'? 'Neds' is awfy Mornungside.
  • gliffothewisp
    And England, of course, is devoid of a brain-dead underclass of violent wasters? You went to the last Tory conference, didn't you?
  • trottitout
    Dinnae put yersel' doon, hen.
  • trottitout
    Nice one. Agreed.
  • Glasgow neds are highly entertaining. Sauchiehall Street on a Saturday night is full of them and their burds, yeh know, the wans with tha microskirt uptae the erse an' tits hingin' oot and it's -4 degrees C, but thay dinnae feel it tanked up as they're on Buckie an' bacardi breezers.
  • grimmnorth
    'What is a "dug"? ' - man with a spade in his head? (sorry, couldn't resist)
  • Malvolio
    'Ae Fond Kiss' was beautiful and nice. You are right, though, there seems to be a rule that films set in Glasgow, Liverpool, Newcastle have to be gritty, hard, depressing, violent, poverty-stricken and (as far as possible) without any redeeming feature. That is how those cities see themselves - sad but true! There is, actually, a good example of a script about a kid who comes from the hopeless north and makes it despite a toxic family; dead-beat peer group and Dickensian social surroundings: 'Billy Elliot'. It did, however, need subtitles south of Doncaster
  • zochoten
    Does this film need and have subtitles for the English?
  • waterbase
    I wonder why no one makes a beautiful and nice movie about Glasgow. I myself try to make one by advertising it in the local film club forum but no actor and actress is really interested at and committed to my project. I guess it is how they see themselves here?
  • zochoten
    Capa75. Using such a regional form of ?no? in this context could be putting your life at risk
  • zochoten
    ?Unless its a wally dug.? This is only the case if the bell man says it four times.
  • zochoten
    Angrydave ?It says woof and is ugly.? Are you saying that Jeremy G Hunter knows your wife?
  • Malvolio
    i) Is this not just 'Trainspotting' with an even more impenetrable accent? ii) Underclasses exist everywhere - you should see the fearsome biker gangs in idyllic, cuddly New Zealand! iii) On my few trips to Glasgow I found the locals very helpful and sincere. iv) Melvin Bragg's book called (from memory) 'The Making of English' confirms that 'gadgie' is, indeed a Roma word. v) I would go and see this movie if it adds anything to the social-realist genre, which Ken Loach has not already done.
  • timspooner
    Rubbish city, rubbish people......Scottish Scousers.
  • angrydave
    Indeed.
  • gliffothewisp
    Unless its a wally dug.
  • Ian Watson's iPod should be confiscated - it's the only thing he'll understand.
  • angrydave
    Google ' Glasgow survival'...... therein you will see photographs aplenty ( assuming the site has not changed since my last visit ) of the Glasgow/Scottish ned. Lordy Lordy.
  • angrydave
    It says woof and is ugly.
  • capa75
    Neigh!
  • BOAGUSDOAGLIO1874
    Years of Labour , and their clientelist induced atrophy of society in Scotland have created this primitive , Third World / under class . Scotland is in a terrible state .This is just a symptom .
  • aaaw talkin' aboot big man
  • ...only in Glasgow.
  • zochoten
    What is a "dug"?
  • Watch that f*ckin' dug!
  • zochoten
    As I said about something else yesterday, ?they shoot horses don?t they?. And horses are nice creatures!
  • harleymc
    ROFL Oh darling lets go see 'Neds' and experience a cutting edge audience participation live theatre oh won't those anecdotes about ruffians make for such amusing banter over the next dinner party. This could run for decades and decades like the Rocky Horror picture Show.
  • jadoonadil
    I have not seen the movie and would like to see it before I make any comments. Lets be clear though, most people are decent and reasonable.
  • I am quite amused by the renaissance of the skinhead era, with 'Neds the latest of a growing trend of media covering the good old days of the late '70's and early eighties. But then I like watching stuff like this, the film Jubilee I thought was pretty awesome, I grew up in Bromley exposed to the contingent era, friends with Max Splodge, Susan Dillon to name two Bromley stars, heck Max was in the year above me at school lol but I too had my moment of fame as a skinhead back then, Channel 4 made a documentary about myself screened early 84, it was a fun time mostly, down the Millwall on a saturday, kicking off with the SPG up at Carnaby Street, scrapping with the rival gangs and down the Aggi in Islington saturday nite for a beer up and another scrap with the old bill/rival gangs/casuals/new romantics/anyone really (delete as applicable) Quite amusing as well that the exec producer of my documentary at 20/20 said I was part of the inspiration for Made in Britain, yes I was in care and did lob a breeze block through a job centre window (its on my juvenile record) and yes I did do some pretty bad stuff in the childrens homes I was sent to, ranging from causing riots to driving a nicked car through the front doors. And today, as a grandfather I am still part of the scene, one of the oldy scooterboys, still have my dm's from all those years back and my ben shermans, six flight jackets to choose from and my shaven head look all the way back from 1976, these people think they know about it all nowadays but there were us doing this a long time before they were even born.
  • izabellatarte
    Ah NEDS! Slumdog Glaswegians. Pass the artesian water dear I think I'm going to faint. Crap film makers, low budget no excuse for low intellect.

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