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Posted: Friday, March 25, 2011 6:02 am | Updated: 7:11 am, Fri Mar 25, 2011.

Newtown township - Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth wanted to set up a table alongside other symposium participants at Lockheed Martin, but their application was denied.

A local symposium about the future of aerospace has attracted the attention - and indignation - of a group of engineers that was denied participation.

Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth wanted to set up a table alongside other symposium participants today at Lockheed Martin in Newtown Township, but the local chapter of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, sponsor of the symposium, denied the application.

The 9/11 group contends that official reports describing the fall of the World Trade Towers on Sept. 11, 2001, paint a false picture of how Building 7 collapsed. It fell not because of fire, as the report describes, but because an unknown group deliberately planted explosives in the building, according to the group.

Nearly 1,500 architectural and engineering professionals and 11,500 others who are members of the group have signed a petition demanding that Congress initiate an independent investigation of all three building collapses, including the north and south towers.

Wayne Coste, an engineer and a member of the 9/11 group, said he can't understand why it would be refused a chance to participate in symposium discussions.

"Our position is that engineering ethics is an appropriate topic whenever there are engineers and engineering students around. You wouldn't want a fraudulent engineering report after the Japanese nuclear problems. You want an accurate understanding so you can move on," said Coste, who was planning to be a presenter at the symposium.

Certainly, the Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics promotes ethics in engineering, said Klaus Dannenberg, deputy executive director of the organization.

The organization isn't commenting on the 9/11 group's theories; it's just unreasonable to include the group in this symposium, Dannenberg said.

Today's event is all about the next generation of aerospace, including advancements in controls, aircraft design and materials.

Members of the sponsor organization work on building airplanes and aren't knowledgeable about building dynamics, mechanics or explosives, he said.

"We're not qualified to engage in that. Our ethics would keep us from engaging in those kinds of discussions in any formal way," he said.

The main problem the 9/11 group has with the National Institute of Standards and Technology's official report of the terrorist attack has to do with how Building 7 came down. Located across the street from the World Trade Center complex, the 47-story high-rise was not hit by an airplane, as the Twin Towers, both 110 stories tall, were.

Yet, Building 7 dropped straight down in a free fall, the same way a cannonball would if dropped from the roof, said Coste.

"The only way that can happen across the entire structure of the building is if all the supports were removed simultaneously," he said.

The only logical explanation is a controlled demolition with planted explosives, according to the 9/11 Truth website.

The 9/11 group also questions the computer models used by National Institute scientists to simulate Building 7's collapse, and the omission of certain explosives evidence from the agency's official report.

Coste is team leader for the group's congressional outreach team.

"We're trying to get people to write letters to their congressmen and have congressmen ask (the National Institute) specific questions. Because (National Institute members) are very dismissive and don't really answer the questions, they consider the issue as closed," he said.

In the meantime, Coste and other members of the 9/11 group are trying to get out the word, in professional settings and through the media. Today's symposium would have been a good opportunity to discuss the issue, said Coste.

Dannenberg countered that it would be the wrong setting for the controversy.

"What this group wanted to do was raise questions about a conspiracy," he said. "It wasn't going to help aerospace professionals of the future. It's outside the immediate subject area, and this would be the wrong audience for it."

Manasee Wagh can be reached at 215-949-4206 or mwagh@phillyburbs.com. Follow Manasee on Twitter at twitter.com/manaseewagh

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10 comments:

  • sg2011 posted at 7:38 am on Mon, Mar 28, 2011.

    sg2011 Posts: 1

    Sunder on What Controlled Demolition Looks Like
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZrcDTjkIhI

     
  • jasonx posted at 6:14 pm on Sun, Mar 27, 2011.

    jasonx Posts: 1

    The sad and inconvenient facts most certainly point to the characterization of 9/11 as an inside job that was engineered and covered-up at the highest levels of US "government". The real government is the military-petroleum-industrial complex which has austere interest in Middle Eastern oil reserves. All empires fall, and America's newest invasions - not wars - are further proof that the nation is doomed.

    Seriously, watch a video of WTC 7 and think about it. 10 years and at least 3 "wars" later, shouldn't any logical person start to feel a little...worried? Is Lockheed Martin getting any poorer during these times? Are you?

     
  • GlenSky posted at 7:47 pm on Sat, Mar 26, 2011.

    GlenSky Posts: 1

    I am more fascinated and confused by peoples desire to COMPLETELY run from the truth than I am at the events that took place on 9/11. A middle schooler could realize that the 'official story' of 9/11 is a lie if they actually took the time to investigate it. What is fascinating is the extreme and almost cultish effort by people to avoid the facts and shut those up who wish to share them. Sad, but fascinating at the same time.

     
  • Mikie-n-ATL posted at 5:45 pm on Sat, Mar 26, 2011.

    Mikie-n-ATL Posts: 1

    For those who act as if they don't know any better, you might think anyone who designs aircraft is somehow exempt from studying & understanding the same simple Laws of Physics for this planet that bonked Sir Isaac Newton upside the head by an apple as he sat beneath its tree! Their response that aeronautics professionals are not qualified to discuss the safety & physics of a structure -whether designed to remain firmly anchored to the ground or not- is a pathetic joke. This might be funny if the implications weren't so dire. What we see here is a psychological disconnect, not one of understanding physics, as they most surely do.

    This becomes the problem for anyone posturing in ethics of aviation and public safety. We've come to know there are more than a few professionals in aviation/avionics, defense, law enforcement & intelligence that do not believe the many falsehoods of the official narrative either. Unfortunately, questioning the credibility of officials who are clearly perpetrating fraudulent science on the rest of us will get you fired or an early retirement -if you're that lucky.

    Perhaps an intrepid reporter might follow up by asking these aircraft professionals -so terrified of falling outside the narrow scope of their discipline's "ethos"- if air traffic controllers and 24-7 air defense monitors would suddenly become paralyzed with uncertainty about 4 passenger jets' detectability on radar and satellite tracking systems for well over an hour? This after it was clear something was terribly amiss because their ID transponders had all been allegedly switched off as they were tracked deviating from their flight plans? Or how in the world could the most hi-tech defended airspace over the most advanced and powerful military headquarters in the world suffer such cascaded "coincidence" of failure of air defense for more than an hour after it was clear that a quadruple kamikaze-hijacking attack against landmark buildings was well under way? (Military tech historians reveal that the Pentagon was one of the first capital-area buildings to be equipped with the most sophisticated surface-to-air missiles available for the time since the 1950's.) This occurred across an interminable period of time for a modern air defense response that would render any advanced nuclear superpower militarily decapitated by an imaginary wannabe nuke nation with late WWII rocket technology? REALLY? Is this also truly as plausible as history's first 3 self-unwelding steel-framed skyscrapers that are measurably witnessed to explosively dismember themselves –symmetrically– of hundreds of thousands of tons of steel building components at or near free-fall accelerations from no appreciable resistance –just due to office fires? Do they really think everyone’s that ignorant and/or terrorized into submission? Don’t people have kids that ask innocent science questions like why jetliner and other fossil fuel combustion engines don’t melt their steel parts? –or a gas barbeque grill for that matter? These so-called NIST scientists would have us believe these steel frames collapsed like a solid stick of butter in a microwave!

    Mikie Smith, EET
    Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth
    AE911Truth.org & WeAreChangeAtlanta.com

     
  • Avenging World posted at 3:50 pm on Sat, Mar 26, 2011.

    Avenging World Posts: 5

    Sooner or late--in earnest or in jest --
    (But the stakes are no jest) Ithuriel's Hour
    Will spring on us, for the first time, the test
    Of our sole unbacked competence and power
    Up to the limit of our years and dower
    Of judgment--or beyond. But here we have
    Prepared long since our garland or our grave.

    For, at that hour, the sum of all our past,
    Act, habit, thought, and passion, shall be cast

    In one addition, be it more or less,
    And as that reading runs so shall we do;
    Meeting, astounded, victory at the last,
    Or, first and last, our own unworthiness.
    And none can change us though they die to save!

    - Rudyard Kipling

     
  • Avenging World posted at 3:37 pm on Sat, Mar 26, 2011.

    Avenging World Posts: 5

    Sooner or late--in earnest or in jest --
    (But the stakes are no jest) Ithuriel's Hour
    Will spring on us, for the first time, the test
    Of our sole unbacked competence and power
    Up to the limit of our years and dower
    Of judgment--or beyond. But here we have
    Prepared long since our garland or our grave.

    For, at that hour, the sum of all our past,
    Act, habit, thought, and passion, shall be cast

    In one addition, be it more or less,
    And as that reading runs so shall we do;
    Meeting, astounded, victory at the last,
    Or, first and last, our own unworthiness.
    And none can change us though they die to save!

    - Rudyard Kipling

     
  • Avenging World posted at 3:36 pm on Sat, Mar 26, 2011.

    Avenging World Posts: 5

    Sooner or late--in earnest or in jest --
    (But the stakes are no jest) Ithuriel's Hour
    Will spring on us, for the first time, the test
    Of our sole unbacked competence and power
    Up to the limit of our years and dower
    Of judgment--or beyond. But here we have
    Prepared long since our garland or our grave.

    For, at that hour, the sum of all our past,
    Act, habit, thought, and passion, shall be cast

    In one addition, be it more or less,
    And as that reading runs so shall we do;
    Meeting, astounded, victory at the last,
    Or, first and last, our own unworthiness.
    And none can change us though they die to save!

    - Rudyard Kipling

     
  • Avenging World posted at 3:35 pm on Sat, Mar 26, 2011.

    Avenging World Posts: 5

    Sooner or late--in earnest or in jest --
    (But the stakes are no jest) Ithuriel's Hour
    Will spring on us, for the first time, the test
    Of our sole unbacked competence and power
    Up to the limit of our years and dower
    Of judgment--or beyond. But here we have
    Prepared long since our garland or our grave.

    For, at that hour, the sum of all our past,
    Act, habit, thought, and passion, shall be cast

    In one addition, be it more or less,
    And as that reading runs so shall we do;
    Meeting, astounded, victory at the last,
    Or, first and last, our own unworthiness.
    And none can change us though they die to save!

    - Rudyard Kipling

     
  • Avenging World posted at 3:35 pm on Sat, Mar 26, 2011.

    Avenging World Posts: 5

    Sooner or late--in earnest or in jest --
    (But the stakes are no jest) Ithuriel's Hour
    Will spring on us, for the first time, the test
    Of our sole unbacked competence and power
    Up to the limit of our years and dower
    Of judgment--or beyond. But here we have
    Prepared long since our garland or our grave.

    For, at that hour, the sum of all our past,
    Act, habit, thought, and passion, shall be cast

    In one addition, be it more or less,
    And as that reading runs so shall we do;
    Meeting, astounded, victory at the last,
    Or, first and last, our own unworthiness.
    And none can change us though they die to save!

    - Rudyard Kipling

     
  • jayeats posted at 1:30 pm on Sat, Mar 26, 2011.

    jayeats Posts: 1

    Indignant is a big word, it should be applied to the press ignoring these voices http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/06/media.html

     

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