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Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It.
MG Siegler
Feb 23, 2010

Apple’s hypocrisy with regard to the App Store is something I know well. Several times last year I wrote about Apple allowing apps like “Asian Boobs” and upskirt apps into the App Store while rejecting things such as satirical apps that mocked public figures. It was ridiculous. So you might think I’d be happy that Apple is now rejecting and removing sexy apps from the App Store as well. But actually, the hypocrisy is much worse now.

Problem number one is that while Apple is removing most of these sexy apps from the App Store, it’s not removing all of them. So who gets to stay? Big publishers like Sports Illustrated and Playboy. In fact, not only is Sports Illustrated’s Swimsuit 2010 app not being removed, it’s being featured in the App Store. Both it and the Playboy app clearly violate the new rules of the more prudish App Store, yet they get to stay. Why?

As Apple VP of Worldwide Product Marketing Phil Schiller explained earlier to the New York Times, it’s because they’re well-known companies known for that content. Yet, he also cited women being upset about feeling degraded and parents being upset about kids having access to sexy apps as the main reason Apple is cracking down on them. The omission of the fact that parents probably also don’t want their kids downloading the Playboy app, or that some women might also find the Swimsuit app degrading is laughable.

Now, are some apps worse than others with regard to sexy content? Of course. But Apple has removed over 5,000 apps and counting under these new rules — surely some of those would likely be considered less offensive then the Playboy app. Further, this is creating the ultimate gray line when it comes to what is and what is not permissible in the App Store. For example, what if there’s a smaller publication also known for nude pictures that wants to make a lingerie app? Will Apple reject or accept that? Is there a certain circulation threshold one has to have to be considered “well-known” in Schiller’s words?

Problem number two is that Apple is breaking a golden rule: don’t take away what you’ve already given (in this case, to both developers and users). Apple has not always allowed these sexy apps in the App Store. But at some point over the past several months they changed their minds and apps like “Asian Boobs” started getting accepted. Why did they do it? At the time, the thought was that with the new parental controls in the iPhone OS 3.0, they could leave it up to parents to decide what their children can or cannot download/use.

Apple was probably happy to let another huge rush of apps into the store, while yes, generating revenue off of them. Meanwhile, this spawned a wave of developers who were making these types of apps. Several of those developers have reached out to us over the past few days basically saying that Apple has just destroyed their businesses. Again, businesses that these people would not have created without Apple approving these apps in the first place. Apple giveth, Apple taketh away.

Problem number three is related to number two. I fail to see the reason that Apple built parental controls into the iPhone OS if they weren’t to be used for situations like this. Why even bother? For games with violence? Please. I’m all for kids not having access to mature content if their parents are against it, but that’s exactly what these controls are made for.

So why is Apple making this big change that is pissing a lot of people off if they have this safeguard in place? Clearly, they must not trust it. But if that’s the case, why not remove the explicit content from iTunes? After all, the parental controls for apps are in the exact same place as the ones from music, movies, and TV shows.

Problem number four is perhaps my favorite one. Apple is going through all this trouble of removing these apps, and creating more work in scanning for the next sexy apps to reject, when built into every iPhone and iPod touch is not one, but two huge entry points for explicit material — and both are apps made by Apple themselves. The first, I alluded to above: iTunes. There are no shortage of films and TV shows with nudity and sexual content (along with violence and everything else) that are available on iTunes for purchase on the device. The same is true for explicit music.

But the second app is far worse: Safari. Each iPhone and iPod touch has a web browser that is more than capable of accessing any site on the web with a few clicks. This includes sites with hardcore pornography, or anything else a teenage kid can dream up. Apple is going through all this trouble to block sexy apps (which have never contained nudity, by the way, just sexy pictures), when they offer one of their own that makes it much easier to find far more sinister content.

Of course, if they removed Safari, it could well destroy the iPhone. So they’re not going to do that.

The sad truth is that while everyone can clearly see Apple’s hypocrisy here, it’s unlikely to matter. Just as with all the hoopla over the Google Voice app rejection, this too will blow over. As long as people keep voting for Apple with their pocketbooks, Apple will continue to do as it pleases, hypocrisy or not.

The lesson, I suppose, is that killer products give you carte blanche.

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  • http://beautifulemails.com Mohammad Koubeissi

    I’ll stick to Android :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=603338059 Kfir Pravda

    True. People don’t care about these apps as much as they care about having a great product

  • http://jacobian.web.id Jacobian

    apple appstore is like a communist now.doing everything that they deem necessary without any real explanation.

  • Garion

    If there’s porn in your Safari browser and you are offended by it, I think you need to have a talk with yourself, not blame it on Apple.

  • Johnny Worthington

    What crap. Walmart doesn’t sell porn but I can find and watch it on the TV I buy from them if I try hard enough.

    Sorry, this one’s a bit of an over-reach

  • Vincent Birlouez

    I could not disagree more.

    There is a huge difference between allowing porn on Safari and allowing Apps with porn content. That difference makes your comparison pointless:

    Difference:
    People know that when using a Web Browser then they access website OUTSIDE of the realm of the handset manufacturer or network provider. The APPLE brand is therefore not associated with those sites.

    Allowing porn on the App Store that is a controlled environment will associate Apple to porn. And that’s something Apple does not want.

    It’s marketing 101.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=577680615 Ralph Pitre

    Apple? Killer app? Not! Apple is for those who can’t think/do for themselves.

  • Paul

    I guess with regard to point 4 the big difference is that the apps are solely for prurient reasons, whereas iTunes and Safari are not built purely for prurient reasons.

    If the upskirt and boob apps can do anything other than upskirts and sexy pics, then they are on a par with Safari and iTunes. But the primary purpose of iTunes is playing your music. The primary purpose of Safari is web browsing (and, Avenue Q be damned, the internet is not just, or even mostly, for porn).

    I’m not sure Apple will ever be able to win this one. If they eventually capitulate and allow anything and everything on, relying on the parental controls, then no doubt at some point in the future the cry of “won’t somebody please think of the children” will go up, and Apple will receive another kicking.

    Frankly, in a tussle between annoying an opinionated non-tech public, and annoying tech-people, the smart money is to annoy the tech people. There’s less of them, and they are usually highly dismissive of Apple anyway.

  • http://parislemon.com MG Siegler

    is that the ‘guns don’t kill people’ argument then? i think you missed the point. and it would be significantly hard to get porn on a tv you just bought from a store – you’d either have to buy a dvd player and the porn, or buy cable and the porn. with safari you just load it up and go. just like an app that apple is so quick to ban now — except those aren’t porn.

  • Etrigan

    Actually MG, your last argument is your weakest (a violation of the rules of persuasion).

    With apps, Apple explicitly let the apps into the store as a gatekeeper. So from a PR perspective, Apple must accept accountability for the smut in the store. With Safari however, it is the user who decides to go look for smut. Apple has nothing to do with it.

    And that is apparently the nub. This is about Apple’s positioning and PR. It has been said that they’re trying to brand the app store as a family-friendly place so grandma and soccer mums can buy iPads and iPods in peace.

    Yes there are ludicrous double standards at work here (if grandma doesn’t like iBoobs, why would she like Playboy?), and it is callous and arbitrary to allow apps in one minute and ban them the next. But Apple has the right to choose its perceptual positioning.

    In the end, the market will decide.

  • http://parislemon.com MG Siegler

    k i just talked to myself. so offended.

  • http://r13ckj.com Richard Jones

    There’s a lot to love about the iPhone, but my conscience is getting too loud to ignore. Think I’ll take a look at Android. My iPhone might have to sit in the corner until it realises what it’s done wrong.

  • http://parislemon.com MG Siegler

    true but your point reinforces something else. if apple were really worried about the content, they would make safari and app that needs approval too – and it would be banned based on the content tied to it (the internet).

  • http://www.smashingphotos.com smashingphotos

    The author of the article sounds like a developer of one of the sexi Apps. I personally think that any kind of limitation to those contents is a progress. Good for Apple.

  • arvind

    That’s exactly the reason why I like TechCrunch. It f**ks the noobie policy-makers left-right & center.

    And yeah, this is trending right now :-)

    Cheers, Lemon!

    Arvind

  • http://parislemon.com MG Siegler

    totally. it’s called iSexi

  • William Palmer

    Pictures of women in swim suits or lingeie is not porn, or all the clothes catalogues would be on the top shelf and going to the beach would require you to be over 18.

    Apple is quite happy to be associated with something that is far closer to real porn, actual nudity, they sell it over itunes.

  • http://parislemon.com MG Siegler

    indeed, “There’s Pornography” is trending globally on twitter right now. excellent.

  • William Palmer

    Since when was censorship progress.

    When and where is the next book burning?

  • http://thejameswilson.com James Wilson

    You have to admit, there is clear disparity between Safari and a smutty app.

    Apple could very well say about Safari what ISPs say about their internet connections: “We provide access to the internet. It doesn’t mean we condone what you do with that access.”

    But who knows, maybe we’ll see iNetNanny from Apple in the near future to answer all of our questions.

  • http://mikeabundo.com/ Mike Abundo

    Next up: Web filtering on iPhones with no opt-out!

    But hey, why stop there? With Apple planning to port the iPhone OS onto other devices, soon all Macs will be Web-filtered, too!

  • Ed Lyons

    I understand that the writers at TC don’t like the change. Is it impossible to appreciate that Apple has valid concerns that you simply don’t agree with? A few of the “most popular” lists in the app store were getting overwhelmed with these apps, and I don’t mind Apple saying that they don’t want to run that kind of store. Unlike two years ago, there are many other options for developers. If the Android market wants to be the king of soft porn and boob apps, fine.

    Overall, I think this posting about Safari shows the lack of maturity of the author, and I really don’t like saying that as I have respect for the TC guys.

  • droiddoes

    Apple is fascist, not communist. They do what they want, when they want, and everyone else is “uncool.”

  • Yeah

    But, Don’t make Apple go the China way. Leave it at this.

  • http://mikeabundo.com/ Mike Abundo

    If there’s porn in the app store… oh, wait…

  • http://c0up.posterous.com c0up

    As long as there’s no DRM! *cringe*

  • droiddoes

    I couldn’t agree more. I seriously think that iSheep are a hive mind. Go Linux!

  • Tunc

    These restrictive moves will do more for the iPhone’s competitors than any advertisement could possibly do.

  • Robert Sh.

    I believe, in a way, this has something to with with the fact that most of those apps are so awfully designed and having photos of half naked ladies on the iTunes store wouldn’t look so good.

    I feels like Apple is not handling this very professionally but come on, it’s not like those developers were doing rocket science behind those apps!

    This would be a BIG DEAL if apps like the Opera browser is banned.

  • arvind

    ha ha ha +1 Siegler.

    What’s is porn btw way? Isn’t it a term of medieval times too, just like the handshake?

    ~ Arrington listening?

    Cheers,
    Arvind

  • http://mattwrench.com Matt Wrench

    This is why there’s no Flash support. No Flash = no Redtube.

  • droiddoes

    What I don’t get is why everyone is so surprised. Apple has never given two shits about their customers, why would they start now? They obviously let those ops through because of the initial surge in revenue: they got 30%. Once the sales slow down, they ban them again, and suddenly it’s a great PR move.

  • Arvind

    For China there is the Dalai Lama :-)

    Reported it on ma Asia blog http://bit.ly/anTmQ8

    “Social technologies” rock like nothing else :D

    Cheers,
    Arvind

  • http://www.amitbhawani.com/blog/ Amit Bhawani

    very true!

  • Robert

    Gee, mod this post -5 FLAMEBAIT.

    This publication used to be about more …

  • http://www.level09.net level09

    what annoys most is apple’s hypocrisy and lies .. its like when they suddenly decided to push web standard and the HTML5 ..

    the author has put 4 valid problems caused by apple’s idiotic new policy, I dont think any of apple fanboys (who hang on steve job’s left nut) can actually give a valid justification that makes sense to that ..

  • getoffit

    Oh please, get off your horse, because you are up to your nose in horse poo.

    The internet is a widely accepted place of caution for parents. It is a known quantity already. You are attempting to throw up a straw man argument here but it doesn’t work with parents.

    You must be new here.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=651920624 Sebastian Stadtlich

    I can only speak for the german appstore, since that is where i am located: the list of latest apps was completly taken over by low quality “sexy” apps.
    I like it very much that apple got rid of them all at once.
    Of cause leaving playboy and xyz in is a bit strange, but easy to understand considering they want to take over magazine distribution next.

  • getoffit

    Oh because you have all those apps of giggly boobs you need to weigh your conscience?! What a load of bs.

  • Jamesp

    Porn on safari doesn’t make the app store look like a 15 year old’s “secret drawer”

  • mxm

    Sports Illustrated and Playboy can stay because “they’re well-known companies known for that content”.

    I’m sure TC readers could suggest Apple some other company that is well-known for ‘that’ content. ;-)

  • http://theseanwilson@me.com Sean Wilson

    There’s so much injustice in the world nowadays. Children are starving, dictators are destroying nations and wars are harming innocent people.

    But no. You decided to fight for your right to porn.

    Real noble of you, Siegler. Real noble.

  • Chip Hurley

    This is why most of the world hates America. You guys just do what the fuck you like and always force your “morals” and “values” down everybody’s throat. 90% of the world couldn’t give two fucks what you can get in the APP store. Only in America.

  • Gerald Buckley

    Think iPad. Apple doesn’t want all these people visiting the App Store for the first time (grannys, trannys, and nannys alike) and seeing flesh apps clogging the “Most Popular” list.

    On the one hand I’m not sure they CARE what is being purchased. I am far more sure they care HOW it appears to the app buying public at large and they didn’t like the trending or its potentially embarassing impact on iPad launch.

    I suspect there will be some sort of “new way” this will be done after the iPad is launched and the media hoopla dies down. And, yes, adult ratings will probably become a walled off garden to itself (if I had to guess).

  • MikeR

    Sorry Vincent, but the Wobble app that was removed by Apple did not contain any “porn” either – users had to obtain naughty photos to use with it on their own. Apple had no association with what people chose to do with it on their own – just like Safari. It was wrong to remove Wobble and many other apps like it.

  • Indignation is Lame

    Oooh… indignation. Uh, ever heard of biting the hand?

    “The lesson, I suppose, is that killer products give you carte blanche.”

    No killer products = no TechCrunch.

    I think the most interesting question here is what would motivate Apple to such levels of hypocrisy? Oh wait, to answer that question we have to look to the comments section… thanks droiddoes!

    Flame off, man, flame off. Maybe you should just title your entries, “Apple DIE DIE DIE”.

  • Luke

    Not true. Just because a company doesn’t do EVERYTHING it could to stop/ban something doesn’t mean it can’t do SOMETHING.

    There is a middle ground amongst “do nothing” and “hypocrite” and “do everything.

  • Don Pedro

    I think the main problem is the “controlled environment” part. I want a well-functioning market place for apps for my iPhone, not Apple’s control or censorship.

  • glenn

    And the sum up is ‘is that killer products give you carte blanche’? I think the lesson is ‘limiting the free use of your product pushes consumers to the competition’.

  • MikeR

    Good point – a few of the “most popular” lists were being “overwhelmed” because like it or not, those kinds of apps were *popular* and although they may not be for you or I, obviously many people did in fact enjoy them and were buying them.

  • http://kevinmeyers.com Kevin Meyers

    The real question that MG left unaddressed is whether or not this bothers him enough to ditch his iPhone. MG, you switching to Droid/Palm/BlackBerry?

    If not, this is all much ado about nothing. Complain all you want, but you still mail a check in to AT&T every month to support this business model. If you have made the calculation that owning an iPhone is worth putting up with these practices, that’s great, but please don’t pretend to be indignant about it when you still use the device.

    There’s this great thing in America called a free market. If you don’t like Big Macs, don’t eat at McDonald’s. If you don’t like frappuccinos, don’t go to Starbucks. And if you don’t like the App Store, don’t use an iPhone. The only way Apple is ever going to think about changing this policy is if people that are angry about this stop buying the devices. Until then, who cares.

  • monsterofNone

    this “hoopla” is funny. it’s as if all the owners of chevies were outraged that the radios on fords didn’t receive fm radio. the owners of fords didn’t care because all their cars came equipped with XM satellite… but that didn’t keep the chevy owners from screaming and writing articles. i think you’ll find that the outrage among actual iPhone owners is about zero.

  • Poopy

    If you’re using an iPhone or iTunes, you’ve already agreed to Apple’s Terms of Service.

    If you don’t like Apple’s policies, you don’t have to agree to Apple’s Terms of Service. Just click “Decline” when you install or upgrade iTunes.

    It’s that simple. End of story.

  • time keeper

    What about proxy filtering? that has always been the solution for blocking porn/ starting censorship on web browsers.

    I guess the point is no nudity in apps, not that I trust jobs with what I would like to see on My device that I paid and now own,is that I understand that growing old and unhype might make you a controlling schizo on the verge of building a nuclear refuge from where to disable all the hardware that you sold me until I bow to your greatness and let all your creations rip anew hole in my wallet and poke my soul with apples inhumanness.

    I guess the saying is strong with this one.

    You like apple? how you like Dem apples!.

  • theoPhobia

    typical techcrunch anti-apple crap. is there a way to remove techcrunch from google news lists?

  • dom

    As @Chip suggests, I am afraid Apple’s behavior has a lot more to do with a certain type of American culture/way of life whatever you call it than only an isolated case of bizarre corporate policy.
    As disturbing as it is, seen from an European point of view, it doesn’t surprise me at all to see a US-based company act this way.

  • http://www.babestation.tv Arthur Lee

    In fact
    “Is there a certain circulation threshold one has to have to be considered “well-known” in Schiller’s words?”

    In the UK playboy has 1 TV satellite channel and Babestation has 4 and is on Digital Freeview as well.

  • http://thomas.pelletier.im/2010/02/apple-hypocrisy/ Apple hypocrisy – Thomas Pelletier

    [...] a regular reader of TechCrunch. I’ve just read “Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone The App Is Called Safari. You made it.” by MG Siegler (by the way I’m a big fan of this guy, I really like what he writes). [...]

  • theoPhobia

    You retard fuck.. nobody likes America because they are jealous. Now shut the fuck up and go troll with your anti-American bullshit elsewhere.

  • Chris

    This article is all wrong. Safari and the Internet are very different from the App Store. I’m free to search content on the Internet – go looking for it. On the App Store, Apple is personally promoting a given app, and often times putting it in my face. Very different. So the idea that Safari is some kind of Apple-made porn app is about as ludicrous as a lot of the stories on this website.

    The truth is that Apple needs a parental-controlled, private area of the App Store to house this kind of content. They’re totally right to remove these apps until they are ready to have that part of the store (if they ever are). The concerns of parents and kids should take precedent over porn while they prepare a new way to handle it. It’s common sense.

    This is like any free speech debate. The people debating it usually don’t have a great idea of what free speech is. Apple is under no obligation to allow people to post porn to its store. They can even allow it Thursday, and disallow it Friday, and allow it again on Saturday, if they want!

    There’s a way to please both sides, and I’m sure Apple is working on it. But before you can make both sides happy, you take care of your parents and kids first. It’s good business, at the very least.

  • Johnny Worthington

    But you are essentially holding Walmart responsible for what ever their customer decideds to play on that TV and that’s a stretch.

    Apple, a company, has the right to sell or refuse to sell any product at any time, just like a brick and mortar store. If Apple doesn’t want to sell porn apps then they don’t have to.

    Sometimes users have an over-inflated sense of entitlement.

    Go picket WalMart

  • Nikolas

    They should just make a new category, and call it adult. That would fix a lot of problems.
    The reason peaple are complaning is you can find nude apps under lifestyle and other categories.

    I am happy they removed all these apps from lifestyle and entertainment categories

  • Rohit

    You are mixing it up. Apple doesn’t control the Web through Safari. Safari is just a medium used to access the Web. What you do on Safari is your problem. On the other hand, every app in the App Store is checked by Apple. So, if something is wrong, it will be blamed on Apple (for approving it) rather than the user.

  • dennis

    Roku has a model that could work for Apple’s app store. They don’t allow porn channels in their official channel store, but developers can create “private channels” that owners can add to their Roku box by following a URL from the developer’s site and entering a code. Roku still has some quality control over what is available, porn sellers (or others who want to limit access to their content) get distribution, and the channel store interface remains smut-free.

  • cschrek

    I am shocked you did not mention anything about censorship, because that is what Apple is doing. If the iphone is truly a communications devise, how can you (as a company) tell users how and what they can communicate?

    This is a clear violation of that, and the hypocracy of the situation just exacerbates the issue. Everyone was up in arms over the ban of Goggle voice – it even brought in the US government, but nobody will care about the loss of these apps because you wouldn’t have downloaded them. This is a FUNDAMENTAL problem of a company censoring your choice of how to use the device, and THAT is the reason I have purchased my last Apple product.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=508381127 Victor Prieto

    you dont have a point here….

  • Rohit

    MG! I have to agree with Etrigan. You had a good article going along till you reached Problem 4. There you lost it. I am a very big fan of your articles, but I have to say that I wasn’t expecting you to mention stuff (in Problem 4). May be you got carried away..

    Apple doesn’t control the Web through Safari. Safari is just a medium used to access the Web. What you do on Safari is your problem. A similar argument can be said for iTunes. If your argument is right, then the movies listed in iTunes have been shown in theaters/TV. If you say they sexual and violent content and Apple should ban them. Then, the same movies could be banned from being shown in theaters/TV!

    Now, every app in the App Store is checked by Apple. So, if something is wrong, it will be blamed on Apple (for approving it) rather than the user. Playboy and Swimsuit Illustrated (SI) were not removed. Almost everyone knows that these are companies with class. Their apps didn’t have a clothed woman waiting to be stripped to her undergarments by swiping on the screen. See the difference. The 5000 apps banned and the above two cannot be even compared. They are entirely two different things.

    Also, you said people can access porn through Safari. Most porn video sites use Flash I guess. So, you wouldn’t be able to access them on Mobile Safari anyways! :P

  • Kyle

    See, but Walmart is but one place to go buy whatever you need. When it comes to iDevices, the App Store is the only store. That’s why it is a problems. If you are going to be the only point of access, then you can’t make hypocrite moves like this.

  • Rohit

    I so agree with you Ed! It was so irritating with those crap apps hogging most of the Most Popular lists. I am glad Apple removed them. And yeah, MG’s argument about Safari/iTunes was lame, pure lame!

  • Rohit

    Are you new to the App Store? If not, you should have noticed that these crap apps didn’t slow down! They were consistently among the Most Popular apps in the App Store. Please stop making uninformed arguments.

  • Rohit

    You shouldn’t be here. Go away. Shooosh….

  • JM

    Then vote with your dollars and avoid iDevices.

  • http://www.linkedandloaded.com/2010/02/23/apple-bans-some-racy-apps-without-notice/ Apple bans some racy apps without notice

    [...] MG Siegler blasts Apple for its hypocrisy in a scathing post on TechCrunch, but as he points out this will probably blow over as long as Apple continues to dominate this market. That said, we’re seeing a significant backlash against their arbitrary policies. Let’s hope more people call them out on it. [...]

  • Beau Geste

    MG, the difference is a user must search out porn on the web via Safari – your choice, your action. The App store is Apple’s responsibility and any offensive (even perceived) material is a reflection on Apple and may result in negative results to their bottom line. A responsible business will do what it needs to (legally) to protect it’s investors, even if it does upset some users. Women, parents, and kids have the numbers here and posters to tech blogs are the minority in comparison. Good business decision.

    From a personal angle, my 10 year old son and 12 year old daughter search the App Store all the time for games, but to get there they need to pass through the main App Store page with the top ten lists. Whether these apps are offensive to you or not this type of app have had some standing within the top 10 where everyone on the main page would see it. I think you’ll agree that is not good viewing for kids or women who don’t appreciate seeing those images.

    Bottom line, the whining in the comments about Apple being fascist, big brother, etc is sad to hear when you as an adult only need to go through Safari to get your porn fix, which is really not a bother for a functioning adult. If the commenters really need the nudity fix so badly to achieve their pleasure it’s a small sacrifice in order to make the App store a pleasant experience for everyone.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=845125547 Varun Mahajan

    Apple is behaving like communist leader here. Keep the people confused and they will never revolt against you

  • Bart

    This really has very little to do with porn and a lot to do with Apple’s attitude toward its partners.

    Imagine if you will…Apple creates a new product for reading…..books. This new product just happens to compete with an IPhone app…and furthermore, they like the design used in one of the book reader apps, so they just simply…copy it.

    All of a sudden, these book reader apps are all in violation of the app store rules and must go…and the look and feel of the new native app is just like one of their partne…er…victims.

    Now, if I’m not mistaken, this has already happened and Apple paid no consequences for it.

    In a business environment such as this you would have to be STUPID to develop a single app for the IPhone platform at any expense to yourself. This is what killed the first iteration of Mac and it will eventually kill the IPhone. Just watch….

    In one year’s time, most of the new apps added to the app store will have little to no real functionality…it’ll just be a device full of watered down junk apps.

  • Chuck

    Everyone seems to be missing the point. Porn has very little to do with this. This is Apple becoming the same thing they made fun of in their Super Bowl commercial.

    They set the rules, don’t have to explain them, you have no other option. Today, they ban a bunch of apps they deem as porn (except for the few they decide are “good” porn). Before, they decide that Google voice would confuse the users. What is next? This actually wouldn’t be an issue except that is the ONLY way to get apps for the phone!

    Just because you don’t care about the “porn” apps, doesn’t mean you won’t care about the next thing Steve decides to make you safe from.

    Kind of reminds me of a famous poem:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came...

    I am done with the iPhone. I feel dirty supporting Apple after all these moves. Once the N1 comes to Verizon, I am gone. I may even bite the bullet and may AT&T early termination.

  • Rohit

    You are assuming/imagining/predicting too many things!

  • Rohit

    So, you feel dirty supporting Apple because they banned crap apps with nothing but semi-nude women in them? You feel dirty because Apple didn’t approve Google Voice app (even though you can access it in a very efficient way through Safari)? You feel dirty because Apple has built an ecosystem with an ease-of-use that is unparalleled in today’s world? If yes, then yes, you shouldn’t be using iPhone.

  • wait…what

    They already did this – no FLASH remember?

  • john mith

    Ill stick with Android as well.

    Something interesting about this. Since they are “pushing” SI and Playboy maybe those companies purchased exclusive rights to be the only smut on the app store? I honestly think that this move is more money motivated than morality motivated. We all know Apple has no morality already but they are quite motivated by money. By eliminating all the other smut SI and Playboy have a much larger customer base now.

  • giafly

    @Bart. You’re saying that Apple’s banning these sexy apps because it’s about to launch its own soft-core product?

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  • Chris Brown

    Lots of disenfranchised developers will be heading to other platforms. And it won’t be just those developing sexy apps. Developers want to feel secure that their development investments will generate a return. As Apple continues to promote a fascist AppStore environment where the biggest players receive special considerations and no recourse for other developers, those developers are going to migrate to platforms where their is more confidence in the viability of their applications. Namely, Android will benefit. But with the upcoming release of WinPhone7, Microsoft is making a huge push for developers to come over to their platform and likely incentivizing those developers to do so.

    Apple is still king of this market (and they know it), but ruling harshly could be the straw that broke the camel’s back. Apple is already becoming so last season for developers (saturated marketplace, limited platform growth due to carrier exclusivity, AppStore review process, etc). Android and WinPhone7 could be heading into a real opportunity for leveling the playing field.

    I’m already looking forward to switching to a next-generation Android sometime this year myself.

  • http://www.brainyone.com brainyone

    *Attention* Please remove all billboards from the roads I drive, plus all the magazines that are in stores and waiting rooms containing sexy looking women. I think they’re degrading to women. I don’t want my kids being sexually aroused as we drive along the road or wait for a doctors appointment!!!

    I mean come on, where does the madness end! Have everyone just enter their D.O.B. upon activation and create an adult section in the app store. DONE. If any parent doesn’t bother to activate their kids phone they obviously don’t care that much!

  • wait…what

    OK, so you’re saying that if I were to create a primary music app that ALSO shows sexy girls with boobs, that it would get approved? Fail.

  • randy

    Author needs to get real.

    “Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. When I turn my iPhone off and reflect my penis off the LCD. You made the LCD. Hypocrite!”

  • john mith

    So normally this would be the part where I would be arguing with you and pointing out that a lot of really smart people use Mac’s myself included.

    BUT. This is becoming more and more true by the day. Apple has targeted the “stupid” people in the marketplace which I think is a mistake. The iphone and the “personalized help me im a sheep” service you get in the Apple stores now is a perfect example of this.

    Apple is forgetting about their core market who have put them into the place they are now. If they keep dumbing down MacOS and the iPhone to appeal to the mass market they risk driving many of us to other platforms. I already refuse to own an iPhone because of the Vendor and App lockdown. The more I see Apple go in the wrong direction with products like the iTampon the less of my money I want to give to them. When it comes time for my next hardware refresh I may consider a system with Linux or Windows 7 instead.

  • boden

    Why would anyone compare a company to a right wing political ideology?

    Wait, do you live at Apple corporate headquarters in Cupertino. Are you being held against your will? Is your only access to the outside world an iPhone?

    if so respond: help help I’m being repressed!

    Oh the horror

    /end sarcasm/

  • boden

    There’s an app for that…

  • http://dimka.com/ Dimka

    Yes, you are right on the money.

    The root of the problem is the lack of real competition.

  • http://leifandersen.net Leif Andersen

    Agreed. Unlike communism, Apple claims that you can get rich by making apps for the iPhone. If Apple were communistic, they would say, “Help us build the platform together”. Than again, I know enough Apple fanboys that would do it souly to help Apple.

  • Sean

    Boy, you guys take your porn very seriously.

    May I suggest a girlfriend instead?

  • Augustus

    Siegler,

    Its unusual for me to be defending Apple and you trashing them. Usually its you who is the fanboy.

    In this case though, I don’t think its a big deal. All these so called porno apps are a distraction/offensive to women and children searching the store.

    I think its OK for Apple to retain Sports Illustrated and Playboy. Like they said they are well known and they should not get in the way of people searching the store (if there are only a few).

    Further, the issue is not the web – its offensive apps getting in the way of users searching the apps store.

    Can’t blame Apple in this situation. All those porno developers probably made enough to live off for a while so don’t cry for them. And there’s always Android.

    I almost think this policy will make Android porno central for mobile phone.

    -Augustus

  • nike

    And what about BING, I mean that thing is just a porn search engine. Don’t get me STARTED!

  • Kevin

    Surely the FCC will rule that modern smart phones are the equivalent of PC’s and laptops, and therefore this level of censorship and control by the hardware and software makers is unacceptable as they did regards to PC’s.

    If they truly value the concept of the internet being free, they will end up forcing Apple to allow any app, no matter what the content.

    If that doesn’t happen, over time, consumers will choose hardware that is free on their own.

    I think in the long term, Google is on the right path. Apple is on a dead end street.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1616118101 Andrew Lippert

    You’ve all completely missed the boat on this one! This has nothing to do with your halfwitted attempts to color Apple a prude or control freak. It has everything to do with marketing and positioning. The next iPhone will be labeled iPhone 3GSX. Connect the dots. If you could download X-rated apps from the app store on your mobile SeX device, every comedian (read: journalist – i.e. TechCrunch blogger) on the planet would be jumping into the arena to paint the latest generation of uber-desirable gadget a plaything for pimply teens seeking a little titillation instead of a powerful communication device for the rest of us. That’s a marketing debacle Apple has deftly avoided with superior planning and foresight (maybe a tad bit late, but well played, nonetheless). And yes, the iPad plays a role here too. If it is lying on the coffee table in the living room, you don’t want Grandma picking it up to find Jenna James getting jiggy with it. Better to nip this all in the bud now then try to put it back in your pants when the tumescence has already set in.

    They control the ecosystem for precisely this reason.

  • Chris

    OMFG TC, do you ever stop whining and complaining? Do yourself a favor and shut the hell up.

  • Lee

    Further to MG second and third point…My wife and I bought iTouch’s this Christmas for our two girls (9 and 7). One of the reasons we bought it was for the ability to control app store purchases via content restrictions. So imagine out surprise when, after setting the allowable content to under 12, you could still see “Asian Boobs” and “Big boobs lite” in the Top 25. Really, Apple?? How difficult would it be to apply the restriction to the App store search algorithm??

  • Augustus

    Here is an ABC News article saying the same thing – Its a good move by Apple.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/apples-porn-purge-smart-move/story?id=9919620

    Apple is doing the right thing (in this case), IMHO.

    -Augustus

  • Phil

    I think publishers wanting to target the iPad as a publication platform should stop and think hard about the ramifications about *their* material, lest the American Taliban contingent at 1 Infinity Loop start censoring their material.

  • id8

    Given the SI Swimsuit app is now featured, and Apple’s incoming move to iBooks, it seems a deal was made. A Negotiated concession to publishers as part of the original iBooks deal, or cash to Apple for removing competition.
    All four of Siegler’s observations make more sense in this context.

  • Phil

    By their own actions, Apple has set themselves up as a monopoly gateway onto the iPhone/iPod Touch.

    So:

    “Several of those developers have reached out to us over the past few days basically saying that Apple has just destroyed their businesses. Several of those developers have reached out to us over the past few days basically saying that Apple has just destroyed their businesses.”

    Where are the class action lawsuits?

  • Josh Chaney

    This is not a new problem. Cable companies have had the same issue since on-demand/pay-per-view has been available. I know on my Cox cable box it requires me to enter a passcode to purchase a movie. This is a code I would not share with my kids.

    The iPhones parental controls go even further by just plain locking out that content entirely if parental controls are enabled. To disable the parental controls a passcode has to be entered. You also need the iTunes password to purchase apps. Do parents just let their kids buy whatever they want? I don’t believe that the majority do.

    What Apple should have done is created a separate “adult” category in the app store. It would only be shown to users without the parental controls enabled. This fixes the developer complaints about all of the bikini apps cluttering the store, and it keeps the kids from seeing that content.

  • Phil

    When Steve Jobs came back to Apple, one of the first things he did was murder the companies that had legally licensed the Mac OS (pre OS X) and producing, in some cases, superior hardware to Apple. I know, I had one – an expandable tower system that had no Apple counterpart.

    And stealing the IP for the iPad book reader? Why is anyone surprised? Read iWoz, Wozniak’s autobiography, for details on Jobs’ outright lying and theft from Woz on a pre-Apple project they worked on.

  • Phil

    Fascism isn’t “right wing”. It is simply one species of totalitarianism and as such lies squarely in the same space as communism.

  • skip

    Porn per the ruling of the U.S courts has been decided by local community standards. Apple is applying their standards which reach across communities, states and countries. Really bikinis here in LA was not considered porn the last time I checked. Lets stop calling this porn!! There is NO NUDITY at ALL in any of these apps. NO simulated SEX acts (which constitutes a legal definition of porn). These are pictures of people in bathing suits. Lets Talk about Safari !!! No Apple does not control the web. (they want too) But they put this app (by the way the ONLY web browser ur allowed to have on an iphone) on the iPhone and you can’t take it off. You cant delete the App. Apple gives you NO CHOICE but to use their browser to access the web. With tons of Porn. (Pictures of real naked people having real sex)
    Apple could have very easily had an NC-17 category in the App store and dumped all the stuff that they considered in bad taste in that category. Allowing SI and Playboy shows that Apple is cutting a “back door” content deals that allows big player businesses to squeeze out small players. You can bet when the iPad (that other controlled system) comes out it will feature two magazines, Playboy and SI. I keep fighting about this in other columns here on Tech but Apple is blatantly violating U.S. Anti Trust laws. “Its called a Vertically Integrated Monopoly” They build the product, the have a deal with one company to exclusively distribute the product, you have one store where you have to go to buy any applications for that product which is owned, operated by the very company that makes the product. Apple also has a Per Se Monopoly which also violates U.S. anti trust laws because they control 90% of the market, the same statute and case law the U.S took Microsoft to court in, in 2001 and won. Its not about PORN and again !! girls in bikinis are not PORN. Its about Apples control over platform, content and product. Banning the Google App, is the exact same thing. Banning other web browsers exact same thing. Banning ANY APPS that do what the APPLE APPS on the phone do, same thing. Apple just took on the ‘sexy” apps because they knew they would get the support of the born again right wing midwest populace, and I am really surprised to see what I always assumed to be educated and technology forward thinking people here on TechCrunch support Apples position on this in any form. By the Way I run a mid sized production company and over the last 10 years with up grades about every two years have purchased over $500,000 dollars in apple edit system, lap tops, iphones etc. Our next up-grade is next year and i will seriously consider Win 7 systems and Adobe Editing suites. and when our 6 iphone subscriptions run out we will change over to the unlocked Nexus phone.

  • http://omarrr.com Omar Rodriguez

    I wholeheartedly agree with your comment about voting with your pocket book.

    We as consumers of technology and tech professionals need to be fully aware of the choices we do and the platforms we support. It not only affects the economic marketplace but our future in this whole ecosystem. I wrote my opinion on the Ethics of Consumption (http://omarrr.com/the-ethics-of-consumption/)

    Who will cover the loses of those who invested their time and effort developing and supporting the iPhone platform only to see their work destroyed without recourse?

  • andjules

    I know I’m going against the ‘hypocrisy grain’ here, but I think they’re app store choices make some sense. It’s about expectation & surprise for mainstream customers.

    I’m fairly liberal and open to experiece, and even I know I have different reactions to what I find in a bricks & mortar store:
    If I walk into a reputable book/magazine store, I’m not at all surprised to find the SI Swimsuit issue, nor Playboy. But the way I see the store changes as their porn selection/section expands… if I wanted to come into contact with ‘porn’, I’d have gone to a porn store, not a Barnes & Noble. And I wouldn’t take my teenage son or daughter, and I probably woudn’t want to meet the store’s owner and have them over for dinner, or read a business book by them.

    If I opened the iTunes app store and saw a whole bunch of risqué apps from unknown brands, I’d start to feel the same way about iTunes.

    On the other hand, the internet has already taught me to feel differently about opening a browser… it’s up to me how much I expose myself to. It perhaps reflects on ‘the internet’ (and so I still have reservations on how much I let my childrens surf), but it doesn’t reflect on Mozilla, Apple or Microsoft (browser developers).

  • Danny

    A lot of these apps were garbage. I don’t really get how just clicking through pictures should even been considered apps in the first place but their being tossed out underscores the larger point that the iPhone is the phone for soccer moms. That’s the market and on that score it is a total triumph. At least 80% of the women I know between the ages of 20-50 use it and it makes sense to cater to them in this way. Men I know are more divided in their phone options and much more interested, at least in theory, in android.

    >The lesson, I suppose, is that killer products give you carte blanche.

    The lesson is that people like you have no real value system. Your constantly offended by apple’s silly moves (keeping the corporate boobie apps in is the most outrageous and laughably indefensible move they’ve made yet) but for you ultimately it doesn’t matter because you like the phone best. You fail to see the larger picture so apple controls you. At least MA took a real stand over GV and though you mocked him for it it, his android protest puts to shame your sad “this post will show ‘em!” efforts.

  • bobby

    Now, every app in the App Store is checked by Apple

    The author is questioning that control and censorship only my friend.

    And also come out of your cave, lot of porn sites have already support one of the H.264, MPEG-4 in .mp4, .m4v, .mov

  • Rob

    I agree. Apple can do whatever it wants in its own store. The argument that the App store is the only store for the iPhone also misses the point that Apple created it and they can do whatever they want with it. If you don’t like the iPhone, buy a Nexus One. Also, the Safari argument is silly. It’s a freakin’ browser… Whatever you do with it is your choice. Eventually Apple will not be the only one with a major software applications store on a popular smartphone… if this type of thing comes back to haunt them so be it. IMHO this is a smart move on Apple’s part. Thanks.

  • Dave

    I could care less about the hardships of the developers of “sexy apps”. These people aren’t curing cancer and if the best business model they can come with is delivering this stuff rather than something of value, I say screw em. I don’t care with its hypocritical or not with safari either. Your point is absurd. Safari is a portal to the web. What is on the web has no bearing on Apples brand. The iTunes store is Apples brand. Your hyper ventilating on this issue is way over blown

  • Delusional Seigler

    Seigler. You’re delusional. Take a hike you sick MF.

  • Anon

    This is such garbage. This is why I’ve boycotted all of apple’s products. Not only are every single owner of an apple product pompous pricks, but they’ve all somehow been brainwashed and constantly regurgitate lines from apples marketing ads. It’s sickening.

    Also, how about instead of forcing content control on people, you let people decide. If parents are complaining about their stupid teens getting this stuff, be a better damn parent!!! Take the 5 minutes and set up parental controls rather than ruining everything by your incessant bitching and horrible parental abilities.

    It’s time people start taking responsibility for this crap. If your little kid is getting this stuff PUNISH THEM! Don’t go yelling at companies because you aren’t doing your job! Or how about this one? Your damn 12 year old DOESN’T need a phone!!! I never had one growing up until I had my license and could pay for it myself.

    It isn’t companies that make this stuff’s fault. If it’s not your thing, ignore it. I don’t like cats, so should I complain about everyone putting cat crap up online? No, I just don’t search for it, and if I see it I go away and don’t read it. This is the fault of lazy people who cannot take responsibility and would rather rally up an army against a company than take 2 minutes and set up parental controls or just teach your kid decent moralities.

    DAMN IT PEOPLE!

  • Piney Board

    Seigler is having withdrawal reactions.

  • http://tnl.net Tristan Louis

    Funny, this sounds suspiciously like this series from last year:

    Unexpected iPhone App Rejections

  • dave

    First of all, you don’t know what fascism is. Second they did explain it, you simply don’t like the explanation.

  • Dave

    Next on Tec crunch, Crybabies ponder why won’t Apple let us pirate software and copyrighted material via the iPhone? Waaaaaaa!

  • ghunda

    I’m not sure this is technically hypocrisy either. The fact that this material is in iTunes and available via Safari shows Apple isn’t against this kind of stuff. Apple has never presented themselves as moral guardians. There’s obviously some business hoopla going. Dicks? Maybe. Hypocrites? No.

    In any case, most of those apps tended to have crap ratings so no big loss.

  • Raffael Erhart

    Stop making so much noise about this!

  • http://aproductguys.wordpress.com Mike

    Nice article, but there’s really only one option moving forward….time to ban certain sites from safari!!!!!!

    Mr. Jobs – talk to China, I hear they have a Great Firewall that works like a charm.

  • Krugeri

    @Phil

    Fascism is indeed a right wing ideology. Drop the ridiculous conservative talking points made popular by Jonah Goldberg and read Umberto Eco’s characteristics of fascism. He, unlike, Golberg, actually was born in fascist Italy. He is also, unlike Goldberg, an intellectual heavyweight with few peers.

    Hitler’s regime hunted down and murdered those associated with liberalism, from new age writers and artists to avowed communists.

    Spread your nonsense elsewhere!

    Note: Sorry for the off thread comments, everyone. I just have to respond when I see this particularly absurd attempt at historical revision.

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  • keene

    So there’s your solution:

    “Of course, if you’re still looking for ’sexy’ content on your iPhone, you can still find plenty of nudity in iTunes (Apple has no problem selling R rated movies). Or you could just pop open Safari.”

    Lol, obviously Apple is just using this as an alibi to kick all of the 3rd party app developers (those small-time app developers) so they can monopolize their App store to a further notch.

    Oh, well thise move is an iFail, considering that the Android App store is very generous to adult-related Apps, they even have a porn-shop to flaunt! lewl: http://bit.ly/mikandi-porn-application-best-or-worst

  • http://mikeabundo.com/ Mike Abundo

    You’re right! Soon Macs won’t have Flash, either!

  • http://www.centerofattentionguy.com Edwin Perello

    I wonder, will Apple build Net Nanny into their Safari browser.

  • mantooth

    Jesus Christ do you guys get upset about nothing.

  • http://attuworld.com/just-attu/apple-there%e2%80%99s-pornography-on-my-iphone-the-app-is-called-safari-you-made-it.html Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It. | Attuworld.com

    [...] think I’d be happy that Apple is now rejecting and removing sexy apps from the App Store as well. But actually, the hypocrisy is much worse now. Similar Posts:iPhone Fart App Rakes in $10,000 a [...]

  • Microsoft

    NOONE CARES MG, THERES MORE THAN 1 PHONE

    DONT LIKE THEIR RULES? PUT UP OR SHUT UP

  • Dblfit

    Look at http://www.onetapporn.com on your iPhone it acts like a Porn APP :D

  • http://www.carticipate.com Steffen Frost

    Do you want to build a killer app, or an app that gets killed?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1148385343 Joey Yokubaitis

    Source? I’ve never heard Apple ever say you “could get rich.” I have seen reports of people GETTING rich from popular, quality apps, however. I don’t think I’ve EVER seen or heard a single word from Apple about it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1148385343 Joey Yokubaitis

    Buy something that’s not from Apple? I mean… Christ, there’s got to be about 100 competitors’ stores for every apple store….

  • josh

    You have to be a complete moron for building a business on top of apple’s app store. Can’t you see they’re just trying to get free work from good developers before stonewalling them and stealing their ideas? On top of taking 30% of revenue just because they can? What’s stopping that number from going to 60% tomorrow and 90% next month?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1148385343 Joey Yokubaitis

    Get another phone?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1148385343 Joey Yokubaitis

    Enjoy building a business on that.

  • diar

    As a proud Droid owner, I just have one question: What adult in their right mind would willingly hand over control of a device they spent hundreds on and supposedly own? You happily eat whatever Apple does from Google Voice to Flash to this latest ban and whatever future a**hole moves they will make in the future.

    I know the iPhone is a great phone, but having used every major brand of smartphone, IMO, it is not THAT much better where it justifies all this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1148385343 Joey Yokubaitis

    I have a question: Why are people calling Apple “Nazi,” “totalitatian,” and “fascist” for keeping control of their CONSUMER EXPERIENCE? Do you even KNOW what those words mean, and the history associated with them? If you can provide one totalitarian state (as if Apple’s a nation) that offered an easily-accessible exit, then I welcome it. Otherwise, it would be prudent to use a less ridiculous analogy.

  • lolcopter

    it’s less about the content of said apps, and more about the arbitrary double standards to which they are held, and eventually removed

  • boop

    i like porn

  • Danno

    Avoid the app store all together, FFS. Build iPhone/iPod/iPad web apps!

    Remember, those do indeed work… And Mom (uh, I mean Apple) can’t pee on your dinner if you go this route.

    Worked for Google Voice….

  • doc

    How is the Apple’s “closed system” for the iPhone really that different than what Nintendo does on the DS/GameBoy/Wii? How is it different from what Sony or Micro$oft does on the PS3/PSP or the Xbox?

    To me the iPhone is somewhere between a PC and a game console. It is more open than any console (portable or not). It is more closed than a PC. It’s not as open as Android, but its more open than pretty much any other phone. So whats the bug deal?

  • neeka

    “The sad truth is that while everyone can clearly see Apple’s hypocrisy here, it’s unlikely to matter. Just as with all the hoopla over the Google Voice app rejection, this too will blow over. As long as people keep voting for Apple with their pocketbooks, Apple will continue to do as it pleases, hypocrisy or not.”

    —I agree, but its like the other meaning of that statement will be, “As long as you’re the type of company that dominates, then you’re unstoppable and every decision you make is ALWAYS RIGHT” In this case, Apple is like following the foot-steps of Goog.

    What happened to the, “Do No Evil Policy Now?” Lol.. Oh well, this move will only make people want to shift on Android, seeing it having tons of adult-related apps. Details: http://bit.ly/mikandi-porn-application-best-or-worst

  • Ken Jackson

    Actually, Apple implicitly approves every website that Safari can go to. It is about 10 lines of code to add white list functionality to Safari. Safari is just an app, just as the App Store is. Both give you access to other pieces of software. It’s just that Safari doesn’t currently have any restrictions, whereas the App Store does.

    I do think it is hypocritical, but I’ve felt this way about Apple for a long time. So it’s not surprising to me. In fact, I suspect that if the iPhone/iPad become more popular they will happily throw web standards out the window and focus on iPhone friendly touch websites, that work to the detriment of all other devices.

  • Anonymous Coward

    I have. And make a living out of it, a generous one.

  • NotTellinYou

    Oh please! The same reason you can go to Target or Wal-mart and buy SI swimsuit edition but not Bikini Babe monthly!

    Seriously you people need to get a life and stop with the Apple crap! There are alternatives called Android and the Palm WebOS. Use them and leave the millions of us that don’t give a hoot about this silliness to what we want to use.

    As you say, anyone that wants nudity can use the web or download all the nude pics they want and sync them to their phone.

    Apple owns the store and the experience just as Target does. You don’t like it, go to another store, or in this case, another phone. There! Done!

    This is all click bait and damn I did I fall for it!

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  • mtp

    Meta-Observation:

    It is pretty funny listening to you folks with your pet political analogies to serve your agendas. I hate to say it, but most of you could really stand to benefit from 1.) reading a dictionary on the terms you’re using and 2.) taking a couple of political science courses.

    Such blatant misuse of ‘communist,’ ‘fascist,’ ‘totalitarian,’ ‘leftist,’ ‘rightist,’ you name it. It’s discussion like this that really dumbs down what is both happening here with Apple and in the American body politic. Such polymorphic abuse strips the real meaning from them.

    I think a better way of describe what Apple is doing is ‘paternalism;’ and to the extent that you want to use political analogies, the least arguable of them would be ‘arbitrary paternalistic authoritarianism.’

    About the Issue at Hand:

    I am no fan of what Apple is doing in the slightest. The sheer arbitrariness and protectionist qualities of these actions are reprehensible.

    To the extent that I’ll whine about it, well I’ll do that by voting both with my dollar and feet. I won’t buy one of its products because of this. I haven’t bought anything from Apple in six years, and I certainly won’t anytime soon.

    What troubles me the most is the precedents that this company’s actions set for other ones. Like it or not, there is a community of norms regarding behavior. Such flagrant disregard poisons the collective soup if you will. The last thing I want to see happen is other firms mimic Apple’s behavior because the rest of the public legitimized it.

    Think about it.

  • http://www.thedigitalorchard.ca/blog/post/22 Apple Removing "Sexy Apps" Is About The App Store – Down at the D.O. Blog

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  • youngluck

    Just to clarify, Power Computing hardware sucked. It was the equivalent of running OSX on a netbook. I know, I had 3 of them.

  • youngluck

    ¿lol whut?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=599067470 Ted Wood

    Agree completely. Closed ≠ Bad.

  • youngluck

    Just for the record, the Bing app is waaaaay easier to navigate to material with which to fap, than Safari.

  • swag

    The walled garden strategy always fails in an information economy.

  • Christopher

    WTF do you even know what your talking about? Fascism is often associated with radical right wing ideology. You’re outwardly denying a commonly known fact. Stfu.

  • Christopher

    Hey you guys.. You know WOMEN, (those things with the tits that were being shown off in all these apps) are the reason the apps got removed.

    I know you won’t fine much of them on here since this is a geek blog and all but yea they actually found things like iWobble offensive and objectifying.

    Congratulations apple for having some respect and listening to your customers.

    If you are really that desperate to see females then get a girlfriend, of hit the safari button. The overreaction to this is hilarious. Let the unjust apple hate ensue.

  • Christopher

    Actually I think you’ll find it’s proven to be pretty mind-blowingly successful.

  • Ed Cayce

    Folks here are missing the reason Apple is doing this.

    Do many of these commenters have an iPhone? I am guessing not.

    I resisted getting one for a long time. My wife loves hers and got a lot of use out of it. Meanwhile I was frustrated with one poorly designed “smartphone” after another. When I finally switched I found that the iPhone is the one phone that does not piss me off on a regular basis.

    Face it, its a really well designed phone and environment.

    So, until recently, go into the App Store, and it is literally choked with lame porn-like apps – all very similar to each other. I am guessing they are there because people just naturally love to pay a buck to see a boob. And I’m a big fan of boobs. But, it really was getting ridiculous.

    If you didn’t know better you would think you were using an iPorn or something.

    Problem is that Apple is reselling these apps. So it could be argued that Apple is all the sudden in the softporn business (I know its not really porn. “Lad mag” business. Whatever).

    They could have made a special category for stuff like this – and maybe after the fury dies down they will.

    But I can see why they allow SI and Playboy – those are established brands and few people will think its an Apple swimsuit layout or lingerie edition.

    I’m not really defending them…. but I can see where they are coming from.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=599067470 Ted Wood

    Reading such ignorant and closed-minded comments really makes me fell ill. Why are some people so pessimistic and against Apple? Remember, it’s just your interpretation/opinion. That doesn’t make it fact. Maybe Apple isn’t evil. Maybe they are.

  • Umo Trinko

    Do you think Apple will ever eralize that the people who can afford, and use IPhones are quite capable of deciding on their own what they want to see?

    Jess
    http://www.complete-anonymity.cz.tc

  • janey

    The Android Market has been already overrun by low quality app developers pushing these same lame soft-porn apps. The clutter in the Android Market is one of the reasons I ditched it.

    I’ll stick to the App Store, thanks.

    Although I do think that Apple could easily just create a 17+ category and allow users to view/hide it in the Settings.

  • Charles Darwin

    Wow. What are the odds? The world’s most moronic comments right here under the world’s most moronic post.

  • Rob

    There is no hypocrisy regarding the browser, every browser can hit on porn web sites…
    The hypocrisy, yes, is with app approvals… basically ‘brands’ are OK, cheap thrills are not… is there a mind set that brand identity is enough for app surfers to identify with socially acceptable apps rather than those not acceptable… or is it simply a case of those brands muscling out other porn content?

  • http://video.download.ac/2010/02/the-lighter-side-3-the-risks-and-their-rewards/ The Lighter Side #3: The Risks And Their Rewards | Video Download AC

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  • fjpoblam

    What AAPL is doing isn’t facism or communism in my opinion (those are both, somewhat, economic theories), but merely authoritarianism (chumps taking it upon themselves to know better than everybody else what everybody else needs to do).

  • fjpoblam

    And if you don’t like GOOG’s TOS, don’t go to http://www.google.com to read them, else you”ve already agreed to them.

  • noddoff

    Would we accept Ford telling us they will brick our car if we use BP gas, or if we drive down Boob Ave.?
    We’re not far from that with the next breed of cars.
    Business models have simply turned into extortion.
    Yet happily we go on. I do include myself in this herd mentality.

  • Rohit

    Wozniak is a big wanker.

  • Rohit

    @ Bobby

    I was merely trying to say that MG was wrong in comparing apps in App Store to Safari. Yes, I agree that Apple controls and censors the App Store. It’s their product and they are free to do whatever they want to. If you do not like, simply move on rather than waste your own time trying to change it.

    In my opinion, for every 1 person who wanted those crap apps, there will be at least few more who didn’t.

    As for your cave comment, well, I am not sorry my cave is not full of porn videos!

  • http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/02/hooters-iphone-app-developer-gets-nervous.html The Secret Diary of Steve Jobs : Hooters iPhone app developer gets nervous

    [...] but it’s true.) Apple’s new crusade to clean up the App Store has a lot of folks upset, like MG, for instance. Posted by Brinke at 4:22 pm | View Comments | Links to this post Labels: App [...]

  • http://botd.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/top-posts-1398/ Top Posts — WordPress.com

    [...] Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It. Apple’s hypocrisy with regard to the App Store is something I know well. Several times last year I wrote about [...] [...]

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1078161371 Barry Barnes

    This has to be the worst article from you MG. If you want porn, fine, have at it. No one wants to see the App Store overrun with “iBoobs”. People complain enough about Fart apps, don’t need MORE crap apps.

    Go to Android’s crap store or get a girlfriend to all the complainers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1078161371 Barry Barnes

    +1.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1078161371 Barry Barnes

    FAIL.

    -3

  • waterkooler

    I guess Apple decided to start their spring cleaning of unwanted Apps.

  • icallbull

    Really? the first one sucked so bad you went out and paid for two more?

  • n

    Apple has power to control its App Store, but not the Internet. One is privately operated, the other isn’t.

  • http://sixside.com/ Jason

    Bump.

    Keep this thread going and hold Apple’s feet to the fire! Force them to make a clear rule (whatever it may be) that is fair to all. Unless they just want to drive more people to Android and/or HTML5 development and bypass iTunes and the app store completely.

  • http://pagesaresocial.com/2010/02/23/its-about-intent/ It’s About Intent | Pages Are Social

    [...] aside, let me proceed to explain to all of you why even though you can access porn any time your heart desires through Safari, Apple is not being hypocritical in any form or [...]

  • http://info-gadget-tech.blogspot.com/ hadi

    I still stick to Android so far.. not Apple. Apple policy seems non consistent.

  • Tsk-Tsk

    For all you idiots the Google quote is not do no evil. It is don’t be evil. Think about Android can own porn apps is it featured though? Now think about an iTouch and think of any Android Phone. how many more kids have itouch compared to android. Apple needs to get its shit correct real quick.

  • jpg

    wow… start talking about dirty things and everybody’s on the boat. guess sex really does sell. either way, i can’t say i’m happy with apple’s actions in either direction… not that it matters because i’ve never been a fan of their products.

  • MF

    Technically communism in its purest sense is not totalitarianism, its utopianism. Soviet Communism was more like a kind of fascism that anything else.

  • Michael B.

    There are changes in technology that techcrunch fails to appreciate is that these devices are now ubiquitous and in the hands of 7 or 8 years old kids. I know that most of you need your porn just about everywhere on every device, but apple appreciates the fact that his is not mobile computing, but a general unrestricted lifestyle convergence device. It is everything, and for the iphone to blow it over a few porn apps is just dumb. They are Coca Cola as they branch out from pure technical consumers. When you develop a device that provides enjoyment to everyone, you have to make decisions to reach a wider audience. They should just offer some type of real age verification to enable access to the more XXX level apps and not censor them outright.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=501229929 Joshua Sterrett

    Eh, they’re not a lot of other options at the moment and most are not as good. Besides, who really cares to have softcore photos on their phone? Apple has always been abusive with their control, but hey, they release products in pretty colors, interesting shapes, and provide people a way to be unique. They’ll find a way to marginalize themselves as usual.

    As for me, I’m favoring the Android for my next phone :).

  • http://geekgeneration.com/?p=89 GeekGeneration.com » iPod, iPhone, iPad… iPorn

    [...] sort de cette pomme ! Dans un très bon article , MG Siegler exprime toute sa colère face à « l’hypocrisie » d’Apple, colère déclenchée [...]

  • jimbomn78

    I’m happy to see them go. Low quality apps like these were a pain, as many have said.

    Regarding the other content that was allowed to stay – Think about what’s available in a Barnes & Noble. I think that’s the line…Playboy and SI are alright, iBoobs, not. It’s more of a fight against TASTELESS apps, rather than all content that has nudity or sexy material.

  • Tom

    Maybe Apple is just preparing the re-entry for these apps in the new app store category “explicit”

    http://tr.im/PBeU (cultofmac)

    This is a good idea IMHO – especially before launching the iPad – only not communicating this remains strange, and again Apple doesn’t make friends thus…

  • Oren S.

    I don’t think it’s what he said, but Tell you what i think. I think Apple is looking at the iPad as the saviour of the magazine industry. Now looky looky here, Playboy and Sports Illustrated? Just “accidently” happen to both be magazines… Hence the “well known publisher” piece of BS excuse. They’re just putting out a red carpet for some of their future partners. So what if it’s red with the blood of smaller Apps?

    I also think they knew exactly how absurd this will all seem but couldn’t care less cuz, like MG said, they’re on top of the world right now and they seem to think they can do whatever they want and people will keep buying whatever they produce.
    This will probably work for the short run, but not for long. “You can piss off some of the people some of the time, but you can’t piss off alot of the people alot of the time.”

    In the business world, your dignity and integrity are perhaps your most important assets. Apple is throwing those to the wind, thinking their assets are a piece of code and some patents on pinching.

  • http://makin.posterous.com/apple-theres-pornography-on-my-iphone-the-app-3 Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Safari – makin’s posterous

    [...] In fact, not only is Sports Illustrateds Swimsuit 2010 app not being removed, its being featured in the App Store. Both it and the Playboy app clearly violate the new rules of the more prudish App Store, yet they get to stay. Why?Source:http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/23/apple-iphone-pornography-ban/ [...]

  • dee

    Who cares.

    It isn’t real porn, anyway, just eye candy. You can’t even wank to it. Now, if something like “Superstars of Lesbianism XXV” had been allowed, than banned, I’d be bummed.

  • alieninkblot

    it’s a closed platform, and you can think of it in the same vein as playstation or wii. when is the last time you saw an “asian boobs” ps3 game… stateside at least. As they move futher into gaming territory they have to make concessions to compete. And this move, in my view, was one of those concessions. I will be happy to see all those junky apps removed so we can focus on what’s left… hopefully more useful apps.

  • http://plankhead.com Zacqary Adam Green

    Macs don’t have Flash. Macs have a Flash-like substance which just happens to be called “Flash for OS X.”

    It’s like high fructose corn Flash.

  • Chris

    Apple have made a huge public relations gaffe with this. They are not a church and they need to stop behaving as if they are.

  • ian welle

    you are all retarded anyway. you will sit and bitch about the apple iphone, but i guarantee you have one. probably an ipod as well, maybe even a macbook or something. it’s just sad that people have noghint better to do than bitch and moan at companies. let them do whatever the fuck they want to, and deal with it. you know why? because they can, and there isn’t shit you can do about it. not with all your new-age blogging and “oh my ideas are so fucking important” shit.

  • LOL

    +1 internets

  • http://tetheredswimming.com/2010/02/24/of-apple-and-naked-women/ Of Apple and Naked Women « Tethered Swimming

    [...] or the dignity of women.  As MG Siegler of TechCrunch pointed out right in his headline: “Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari.”  iPhones, iPads and all the rest are designed to access the regular old internet where images [...]

  • http://vyber.wordpress.com/2010/02/24/apple-bans-some-apps-for-sex-tinged-content/ Apple Bans Some Apps for Sex-Tinged Content. « It's out there!

    [...] Continued at Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It. [...]

  • http://quicksurf.com/?p=1819 The Geekinator #0305 – Apple Bans Sexy Apps, Google Hearts Wikipedia, School Spying Part Deux « Quicksurf Internet Media

    [...] Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It. [...]

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    [...] Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It. [...]

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    [...] Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It. [...]

  • http://www.esarcasm.com/12085/commentary-apple%e2%80%99s-app-store-is-porn-to-be-wild/ Commentary: Apple’s App Store Is Porn to Be Wild

    [...] TechCrunch’s MG Siegler points out that if he really wants to view porn on his iPhone, he can do it the old fashioned way [...]

  • Mr Green

    Porn doesn’t really make money; this is the post: http://utestme.com/2010/02/25/apples-and-nipples-why-did-apple-ban-porn/

  • http://criticasweb.com Paola

    do apple have rights to decide what to put and what to take in iPhone

  • http://reabilita.me/2414 ★ Tits and Apps | reabilita.me

    [...] Lastly, if you think about it, it’s clearly not about banning porno and bikini-clad-semi-porno from the iPhone entirely. MG Siegler writes: [...]

  • Hamranhansenhansen

    Well, duh. That’s the whole point!

    The iPhone has 2 app platforms: App Store and HTML5 Web apps. Each is the alternative to the other. Whatever you can say about the Web, the opposite should be true of App Store and vice versa. The Web is not just accidentally on iPhone. It’s the first phone with the real Web, and Apple has taken the lead on HTML5. They have worked their ass off so you can get porno on your iPhone, or whatever else you want on the Web.

    Pornography is not banned from the iPhone … it’s just not being sold in App Store. There’s no need to have pornography in the App Store because there is a more appropriate platform for it on the Web. There’s no need to get pornography from Apple, or pay through Apple, because you can do that directly on the Web!

    You can also store photos on an iPhone, and they can be pornographic. You can pay for pornography with your phone bill. You can call phone sex lines. You can remote into another computer with porn on it. You can receive porn in email, and it can be in many different formats.

    Nobody is banning porn from your phone.

    The situation was that pretty much no matter what search query you applied to App Store, even productivity apps, you got back 25% T&A apps. People were complaining about the noise. The complaints outweighed the sales. Apple apparently considered an Explicit section but then decided to just not bother.

    I live in San Francisco and I find it to be too conservative, but I don’t think there’s any reason to fault Apple here at all. Either be in the porn business or not … really low-quality T&A apps were not a benefit to anyone. They were a problem for schools and businesses who use App Store. They were a problem for people searching App Store for every kind of app. They were more of a problem than they were worth. I’m glad they’re gone.

  • http://theclick.us/2010/02/apple-there%e2%80%99s-pornography-on-my-iphone-the-app-is-called-safari-you-made-it/ Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It. | The Click

    [...] Apple’s hypocrisy with regard to the App Store is something I know well. Several times last year I wrote about Apple allowing apps like “Asian Boobs” and upskirt apps into the App Store while rejecting things such as satirical apps that mocked public figures. It was ridiculous. So you might think I’d be happy that Apple is now rejecting and removing sexy apps from the App Store as well. But actually, the hypocrisy is much worse now. [...]

  • http://www.mobileorchard.com/this-week-in-iphone-ipad-news-february-262010/ This Week in iPhone & iPad News – February 26/2010

    [...] MG Siegler’s Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It. [...]

  • http://www.brunotrani.info/blog/2010/02/27/the-iphone%e2%80%99s-peephole/ The iPhone’s Peephole | bruno trani dot info

    [...] John Gruber wrote what I thought was a good response to my post about Apple’s App Store sexy app policy. While I noted that one of the reasons Apple’s policy was silly was because each iPhone [...]

  • http://technewsninja.com/2010/02/the-iphone%e2%80%99s-peephole/ The iPhone’s Peephole | Tech News Ninja

    [...] John Gruber wrote what I thought was a good response to my post about Apple’s App Store sexy app policy. While I noted that one of the reasons Apple’s policy was silly was because each iPhone [...]

  • http://blog.deobald.org/archive/2010/02/28/quergelesen-2010-02-28/ blog.deobald.org » Quergelesen 2010-02-28

    [...] Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It. [...]

  • http://www.daringfireball.es/2010/02/25/tetas-y-aplicaciones/ Tetas y aplicaciones | Daring Fireball en español

    [...] es evidente que no se trata de desterrar por completo la pornografía total o parcial del iPhone. MG Siegler escribe: Apple se está tomando todas estas molestias para eliminar estas aplicaciones, y generando más [...]

  • http://mktg.simpleperformancemarketing.com/mg-siegler/the-iphone%e2%80%99s-peephole/ MKTG | The iPhone’s Peephole

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  • http://community.brandrepublic.com/blogs/tiafisher/archive/2010/03/01/emoderation-social-media-update-31.aspx eModeration Social Media Update #31 – A Sense of Community – Blogs – Brand Republic

    [...] hard to overheat on behalf of porn–pedlars, Apple’s fumblings on this matter highlighted its somewhat capricious stance towards developers in general, and to 'adult' content in particular. The whole hoo-ha no [...]

  • http://www.philnolan3d.com Phil

    “As long as people keep voting for Apple with their pocketbooks”

    This is why I’m feeling more and more inclined to upgrade to a Nexus One instead of upgrading my iPhone. Not that I want “Sexy apps” but that apple, much like Autodesk, bullies everyone into doing what they want, not that the customer wants.

  • http://lningram.com/blog/?p=499 The Book of Jobs (How Not to Sell to GenY) – Ingram's World

    [...] If you haven’t heard, Apple’s diving headfirst into the hyprocracy pool these days: Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It. In short: Apple recently dumped a whole bunch of ’sexual’ applications out of the [...]

  • http://www.tim-specht.de/?p=444 This Week in iPhone & iPad News – February 26/2010 « Scripted-Sheep Development

    [...] MG Siegler’s Apple, There’s Pornography On My iPhone. The App Is Called Safari. You Made It. [...]

  • http://franksting.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/jason-kincaid-invalid-argument-on-reason-apple-signs-off-apps-for-appstore-garyablett/ Jason Kincaid Invalid Argument on reason Apple Signs-off Apps for AppStore #garyablett « Making Hay

    [...] iTunes has sold songs with explicit lyrics and movies with graphic nudity. Further, as we’ve pointed out numerous times, the iPhone comes with Safari. The web has quite a bit of porn on it. Hell, many [...]

  • http://jp.techcrunch.com/archives/20100408steve-jobs-on-why-the-iphone-doesnt-allow-unsigned-apps-they-dont-want-a-porn-store/ iPhoneになぜアプリケーションの自由がないのか? Steve Jobs曰くポルノを阻止したいから

    [...] これまで何年も、iTunesは露骨な歌詞の曲やどぎついヌードのムービーを売ってきた。それだけでなく、本誌が過去に何度も指摘したように、iPhoneにはフィルタ機能を組み込んでないSafariがある。だから、Web上のポルノを自由に見ることができる。それどころか、iPhone用に最適化されたHTML5バージョンを提供しているポルノサイトも多い。親がペアレンタルコントロール(parental controls)で子どもにSafariを使わせないようにすることはできるが、そんなコントロールは無署名アプリケーションに対しても容易にできるはずだ。 [...]

  • Chris

    Ok, chill out. 1. Who cares if there’s some soft core, NON nude app our there? Masturbation is normal for all teenagers. 2. Of course there are movies with nudy scenes in them! Hello it’s called Restriced audiences for a reason. 3. Why the hell would u get mad at apple for putting a webrowser on a phone?! There are webrowsers on tv’s for Christ sake. 4. If u build a company upon a lame softcore app u should be punched in the face anyway. Not because of the apple logo, but because it’s just a bad business venture in the first place

  • http://dottribes.com Guillermo | Social Media apps

    I’ve got an app rejected once (not for pornography but for content problems), and they were really straight to me. They told me: We do not want to see this kind of content in the store, sorry. It was not nice to me to hear that, but what would I do if I was the owner of a store and somebody wants to sell something through it that I do not like?
    Then I remembered a factory that my father used to own. He was trying to sell his merchandise to supermarkets, and most of the time, they were saying: no, sorry.
    There are the same rules here. They own the store. It is up to us to decide if we want to publish our apps with them or not. There is nothing wrong about it.

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