Clarifying a controversial subject…
Glock kB! FAQ v1.35
Examining the catastrophic failures in a popular pistol
Successive re-sizing and firing of a case result in eventual weakening of the brass, increasing the probability of case failure. The partially unsupported chamber in the Glock exacerbates this problem.
"Hard crimping" or overseating of bullets, particularly in the .40 S&W, can cause dramatic increases in pressure almost to the same degree as a propellant overcharge. [See Annotation #3] Either alone or in combination with a weakened case, these factors can result in a kB!
Some people have also postulated a relationship between the use of cast lead bullets and kB!, arguing that buildup of lead in the chamber can lead to pressure buildups as well. The jury seems to be out on this one as a direct causation, but lead build-up will sometimes cause a round to not fully chamber, and as Glocks can discharge with the action not completely locked up ("out of battery," [see Annotation #4]), this can lead to a catastrophic failure.
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I recently bought a BarSto aftermarket barrel for a Glock 20 and made the following measurements:
My stock Glock 20 barrel leaves 0.306" of the case unsupported over the feed ramp.
My BarSto Glock 20 barrel leaves 0.224" of the case unsupported over the feed ramp.
The case web is 0.18"-to-0.20" thick depending on how you measure it. That leaves at least 0.10" unsupported thin case wall in the stock barrel and 0.024" in the BarSto.
- From Clark Magnuson
"The problem is with the pistol. The design of the disconnector on the Glocks allow them to fire with the slide slightly out of battery -- this is a more significant problem with higher pressure cartridges. Other .40 S&W pistols, especially ones made of steel or designed from the ground up as .40s rather than merely being modified 9 mms, do not suffer from this same problem. … FWIW, if Glock modified the disconnector the out of battery failures could be significantly reduced."
Factory Ammo kB!s
"In various handgun courses over the years I have personally witnessed five (5!) kB!s, all with factory-new .40 S&W ammo. Yes, two were with the earlier Federal 165-grain Hydra-Shok, but I've also seen it happen with 180-grain Winchester Ranger and 155-grain Speer Gold Dot HPs."
- Ken Hackathorn, World
Class Firearms Instructor
The Apparent Para-bellum Exemption…
Don't forget that the chamber walls are almost twice as thick on the 9mm so it is stronger too. It is surely possible to kB! a 9 X 19mm… but you gotta try harder.
- Charles E. Petty
Currently Famous Gunwriter
(And, of course, we now have two documented kB!s in 9 X 19mm… a Model 19 with "gunshow reloads" and a Model 34 at the 2004 IDPA Winter Championships, using factory ammunition, yet!)
From a 1996 Rec.Guns Post…
There has been a lot of discussion in the Glock-l mailing list about using reloads in Glocks. I'd recommend putting every reloaded .40 S&W, .45 ACP, or 10mm round you intend to fire in a Glock through a case gauge first, and discard those that don't pass. It seems that the chambers on the .40 S&W, .45ACP, and 10mm Glocks are slightly oversized and not fully supported over the feed ramp. I called the folks at Dillon Precision several months ago to ask why some of my 10mm reloads were not being properly resized in my Dillon RL550B press with Dillon's best pistol dies. The guy immediately asked if I was using brass that had been fired in a Glock. When I said that was the case, he explained that the oversized chamber of the larger caliber Glocks allows the brass to expand too much to be properly resized near the head, if the loads are warm enough.
I have an aftermarket barrel in one of my Glock 20s and it has a noticably smaller chamber… factory ammo that practically rattles around in my factory Glock 20's chamber barely wiggles in the aftermarket barrel's chamber. The chamber seems to be more supported under the feed ramp on the aftermarket barrel, but it isn't fully supported.
- Mark Gibson
Catastrophic failures involving non-Glocks
Sure, other guns suffer "kB!-type" events, and for a variety of reasons… here's links to some of them:
The Gun Zone will cheerfully accept valid links to any other documentable catastrophic failures.
Last Revised: 12/03/2006
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