Some of the names in this book have been changed to protect
the individuals involved. The events are absolutely as
--flyleaf to The Satan Seller
This section will disclose formidable chronological problems in
The Satan Seller, totally apart from the historical investigative
research which appears in the main body of this article. These
discrepancies could have been uncovered by anyone else in the past
twenty yearsincluding uswith minimal research. But nobody took
the time to do the math.
Dates are rare in The Satan Seller. Yet Mike Warnke provides just
enough information to check his story against a real calendar. He says
he didnt join the Satanists until after college began, and he was
kicked out of the satanic cult just before he joined the Navy.
Some external information helps to define the limits of this
period. School records show freshman classes began at San Bernardino
Valley College on September 13, 1965. Mike Warnkes Naval records show
he entered the Navy on June 2, 1966.
Things can be narrowed even further. Warnke gives us a midpoint in
his history, when he makes it clear he became a satanic high priest
shortly before Christmas, 1965. In fact, he provides enough
information for us to determine the exact date he became a high
Mikes book describes two important events which took place before
Christmas, each of them on the night of a full moon: the night he
joined the coven, and the night he became a high priest.
According to the 1965 World Almanac, there were three full moons
that year between the date school began and Christmas: October 10th,
November 8th, and December 8th.
Obviously, this pair of significant events described by Warnke
if they actually happenedmust have happened on two of these three
He couldnt have joined the coven on the full moon of October 10th,
and heres why: The Satan Seller tells us Warnke visited his first
Black Mass three weeks before being initiated into the coven (under
a full moon). The Black Mass did not occur until about a month
after he was fired from his job. He didnt take the job until
after degenerating from a shy freshman to a drug addict who needed
money for speed. Even if that transformation happened in a single
day, and Warnke got the job the first day of school (Sept. 13), the
addition of about a month plus three weeks brings us forward to
November 1. This totally eliminates the October 10th full moon as a
Therefore, based on the information he provides us, Mike Warnke
could only have been initiated into his satanic cult on the full moon
of November 8th, and been made High Priest on the full moon of
December 8th. Now that we have these dates, we can figure out one
more. Warnkes visit to his first Black Mass, three weeks before the
November 8th initiation, must have occurred on or near October 18th.
That means everything Mike Warnke says he did between the start of
school and his first Black Massnamely, his transformation into a
drug addict/pushermust have taken place in only five weeks.
Yet the real calendar forces us to continue the relentless
whittling: Warnke doesnt have five weeks. He has no time at all.
Heres why: Warnke says that some days after college begins,
he is offered marijuana, turns it down, but changes his mind in a
week or so. After trying marijuana, he experiments with LSD, reds,
mescaline, peyote, and finally speed. He gets a job to support his
speed habit, gets fired, and about a month after I had been
fired, his satanic recruiter, Dean, invites Warnke to his first sex
orgy. Sometime after that, Mike attends his first Black Mass on
The seven days it took Mike to begin using marijuana, plus the
month between losing his job and his first orgy fills up the five
weeks till October 18.
This leaves no time for the unspecified number of days which Mike
says elapsed between the time school started and the time he was first
This leaves no time for him to be addicted to all those drugs,
which is Mikes reason for getting a job in the first place. During
his days of drug addiction, Mike says he was transformed from a
heavyset jovial guy down to 125 pounds. The necessary time
interval is missing between Mikes first toke of marijuana and his
transformation into a hard-core speed freak, desperate for cash.
This leaves no time for Mike to work at his job. Warnke says he
took the job to support his drug habit. After getting hired, then he
dropped out of school, then became a pusher himself, then he got
fired. Even if he got fired the same day he was hired, theres not
This leaves no time between Mikes first sex orgy and his first
Black Mass. Mike says that after that first orgy, he started
attending these parties regularly, ran errands for Dean
(including a big drug payoff near the Mexican border), then
attended some secondary meetings in witchcraft, then finally was
invited to the Black Mass. But theres no time for trips to Mexico
or unspecified evenings spent in debauchery, because by the time of
that first orgy, were already at October 18th, the date of the first
Black Mass. Long before this point, time has run out.
Theres no other way to add things up. No wonder Warnkes friends
had trouble with the dates in The Satan Seller! But with Mikes
publication in 1991 of Schemes of Satan, we have more events to
squeeze into this impossible calendar:
. . . before I became directly involved in satanism, I was
riding my motorcycle across the Texas plains. . . . I had
just concluded a successful drug deal in Louisiana. . . .
Several days later I was in California, and soon thereafter
I took my first steps toward becoming a satanist high
There is also no time for this story, which appeared in the October
1976 issue of Harmony magazine:
Now, Im a strong civil rights advocate. The last time I had
been in Alabama was with Dr. Martin Luther King, back in my
college days when I went down there on Freedom Rides. The
last time I was there was to march in a civil rights
Set aside the question of why a Satanist would take an interest in
civil rights. A more pressing issue is the fact that the Freedom Rides
were in 1961, four years before Warnke started college. It is true
that Martin Luther King marched to Selma, Alabama, in 1965, but it was
in April of 1965, while Warnke was still a senior in high school.
Yet another anachronism appears in his testimony: the Charles
Manson problem. As of January 1972, Warnke was claiming to have had
former acquaintance with Charles Manson, according to a twelve-page
promotional insert in the San Diego Evening Tribune. This story
was amplified in The Back Side of Satan, a book credited to Morris
Cerullo, but written by Dave Balsiger (Warnkes coauthor for The
Back Side devotes an entire chapter to Warnkes story, and
includes a major detail that The Satan Seller omits:
Mike says he saw convicted killer Charles Manson at such a
ritual once and that Manson thought he was being
shortchanged. He favored actually sacrificing the person.
He described Manson as being a person who bugged everybody
he was around. . . . And, he added, Manson had bad
This same book has Mike Warnke attending a conference in San
Francisco in January 1966, noting, It was here, among other places,
that Warnke saw Manson. Also, newspaperman Murray Norris
(credited in the Acknowledgements of The Satan Seller) told us
that Mike claimed to have known Charles Manson and even spent a few
days in the desert with him.
One problem here. During the entire time Warnke was allegedly a
Satanist, Charles Manson was imprisoned at the federal penitentiary on
McNeil Island, off the coast of Washington State. Manson wasnt
released from his six-year stretch for forgery until March 1967, by
which time Warnke was in the Navy.
These comparisons demonstrate that Mike Warnkes story does not
meet the test of time or history.
1. Mike Warnke, with Dave Balsiner and Les Jones, The Satan Seller
(Plainfield, N.J.: Logos International, 1972), 73-74. Hereafter,
2. SS, 35.
3. SS, 58.
4. The 1965 Almanac and Book of Facts (New York: New York
World-Telegram and Sun, 1965), ed. Harry Hansen, 476.
5. SS, 33, 36.
6. SS, 25.
7. SS, 23. In writing about this period, Warnke marks the time with
phrases such as a week or so went by. The overall impression is that
several weeks or even a couple months elapsed between the start of
school and getting the job.
8. SS, 18.
9. SS, 19.
10. SS, 23. In retrospect Warnkes alleged habit of ten dollars a
week for speed seems fairly mild.
11. SS, 25.
12. SS, 18. The text says only the days went by, but context
implies more than a week, since Warnke goes from attending classes
regularly at first to falling victim to alcohol abuse.
13. SS, 23. The alleged weight drop may have occurred after Warnkes
14. SS, 23-25.
15. SS, 28.
16. SS, 29-30.
17. SS, 31, 32-33 (emphasis added).
18. Michael A. Warnke, Schemes of Satan (Tulsa: Victory House,
19. Peggy Hancherick, Mike Warnke: Jester in the Kings Court,
Harmony, Sept./Oct. 1976, 9.
20. Dave Balsiger et al., Its Happening Now, insert, San Diego
Evening Tribune, 17 Jan. 1972.
21. Phone interview with Dave Balsiger.
22. Morris Cerullo, The Back Side of Satan (Carol Stream, Ill.:
Creation House, 1973), 170-171.
23. Back Side, 171.
24. Phone interview with Murray Norris.
25. Vincent Bugliosi, Helter Skelter (New York: W.W. Norton, 1974),
195. Particularly odd is the fact that Mansons 1967 release date was
included in Back Side on pp. 76-77.
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