mw2009 ideas?

dbear's picture

By David Bearman - Posted on 11 April 2008

got thoughts about what we should be doing in Indianapolis, a new idea for a session or a great speaker? or something that isn't working quite right now that we could fix?

drop a note in this forum -- MW2009 -- for us, so that we can make things better next time around.



Daniel Incandela's picture

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lyndak's picture

Don't know about rest of the world but there sure is pressure in Australia for cultural agencies to make more of their own money. Not in the philanthropic sense but in cold, hard cash. Obviously management often sees the web as a way to do this. How about a roundtable/session/keynote on this topic? There has been some discussion on this topic here

jtrant's picture

i think there are two sides to this question -- whether you use the web to enhance existing avenues of revenue generation [as a way of increasing transactions in membership, the shop, ticketing, etc.] and whether you use the web to create new kinds of revenue-generating opportunities [those elusive new business models]. i can think about a lot of museum examples of the former, and not too many of the latter.

this is another 'best practices' discussion that we might pursue in an 'unconference' session. are you willing to step up to convening it? a lot of the themes we explored @ MW2000 in "Museums and the Market" seem relevant.


j. trant archives & museum informatics

j. trant co-chair Museums and the Web | partner archives & museum informatics

lyndak's picture

Hi Jennifer and thnx for your response. I agree that the idea of adding value to xisting avenues of revenue is a key way to go and that is something we're definitiely exploring here. the trick i think is to convince managmnnet that this is a genuine form of revenue raising that may not necessarily result in cash quickly but actually takes time and a lot of effort. As mentioend we're doing some research into this and I'd be happy to chair something at the conference as I think it's a topic we need to be discussing and aharing stories about. At this stage I'm not sure whether I'll be coming (depends on if something accepted, so once I hear either way I can get back to you).

EduardoValle's picture

Maybe I'm wrong, but I often feel that in the discussion of technology industry x cultural institutions, the later tend to assume a passive role, in the sense that they examine the available technology and try to see if this existing technology is interesting to them, and, in that case, how it could be adapted to their purposes.

But if we could invert this relationship, what then? Let us imagine for a moment that we, as cultural institutions, became the main trendsetters, the main customers of technology innovation. What would we want? What would we ask of this technology.

I ask those questions because in my past work with CBIR (content-based information retrieval) I've found that the most difficult step in the interaction between the technology-research team and the museum-application team is the proposal of applications which are original, challenging yet feasible.

I suspect that the cooperation between technology innovators and cultural institution customers would be easier if the latter had a "programme" of what is lacking in terms of available technology and tools.

Ed Rodley's picture

I don't know if it's a session or some other format, but I was talking Bruce Wyman about the Virtual Fishtank interactive we have.  It's over ten years old, has outlived it's original home and a couple of generations of hardware, and still is an attractive experience for our audience. 

 What other digital dinosaurs are out there and what (if anything) do they have in common?  Could be some interesting case studies, could be a pecha kucha kinda presentation with lots of folks talking about their favorite dinosaur.

dbear's picture

Why some instantiations want to live beyond technological obsolescence and how we keep them alive is a recurrent theme, and a very interesting one!

It was taken up in a session at MW2006 once -

Saturday March 25, 2006 11:00 am-12:30 pm
Design:  Lasting Value
Surviving Change: The first step toward sustaining your digital library, Marie Gallagher, Christie Moffatt, USA

Story of Glass: Still really working 10 years on, Sarah Beecham, Graham Howard, United Kingdom

We'd love to see a few papers addressing it again. 
While it may not be possible to get at what makes the interactive so popular, the questions around migrating it over time across platforms are of value to everyone. David

David Bearman

Ed Rodley's picture

Something we've been trying to get our brains around is how to marry the kind of live evaluation we do in the exhibit halls with the automated statistics that we generate from web sites and computer-based interactives. I know people out there are looking at the same issue and it'd be good to know who's had success with what kinds of methods.

jtrant's picture

there's been a good thread about this on the MCG - UK List. Maybe there are some potential presenters there.

see for the archive, under the heading "Jakob Nielsen says '"Unique Visitors" Must Die'"

j. trant archives & museum informatics

j. trant co-chair Museums and the Web | partner archives & museum informatics

Kajsa Hartig's picture

I agree, that's a great topic. The evaluation of visits in the exhibit hall in combination with the web stats would make the interaction between the web and the exhibit hall much more effective. Again, how and why do we produce multimedia kiosk, websites in relation to the exhibitions. How do we interpret the logs in relation to live evaluation. etc.

Kajsa Hartig's picture

I participated as a judge for the 2008 Best of Web Awards, a truly great and educating experience. I learned a lot and got a new perspective on the web. One of the difficulties as a judge for BoW was to see how so many institutions are focused on the Online Exhibition, or Online resource, and that it's very hard to see the purpose of certain publications. Also, we encountered one publication that stirred up a lot of discussions because it didn't fit into any category, and still was a very well made site. My concern is that we focus too much on the result, the publication, and not the over all strategy that led to it being created. To address these issues it's time to ask: "Why the web?" Only a web strategy can answer that. I suggest that Museums and the web invite Björn Elmberg, Key account manager at Cybercom, Sweden, as a speaker for next year, to talk about web strategies for cultural institutions. See: LinkedIn.

Kajsa Hartig
Digital Navigator, New media
Nordiska museet
Stockholm, Sweden

Mia's picture

Sorry, three more suggestions: it would be really useful if each session listed in the program the audience it was aimed at (managers, technologists, educators, etc) and what level of experience it was aimed at (e.g. absolute beginners, practitioners).

Secondly, it would be handy if the papers were available as pdf (or similar) downloads so I could load them onto my phone or laptop beforehand and read them if the sessions don't have network connectivity; and finally it would be so helpful if all presenters had to put their slides online somewhere.

Mia's picture

I agree about with the suggestions for Pecha Kucha. It'd be really useful for people at the early stage of a project to get a range of feedback and suggestions from some of the best researchers and most experienced 'doers' around.

And maybe some afternoon versions of the Birds of a Feather sessions? I'm one of those people who's not at all sociable in the morning and was staying in a different hotel and with travel time I didn't go to the BoF breakfasts.

And finally, it's really useful when people talk about how their projects worked in their institutions/sector as it helps everyone work out how to sell similar ideas when they get back from the conference.

Nate Solas's picture

I love the idea of a slam-bang 5-minutes each session full of pecha kucha style presentations.

jkrogh's picture

How about a Pecha Kucha ( style format in the early stages of the conference where anyone can sign up to do a 5-minute rapid fire presentation of what they have worked on. I think it would be an excellent way to get people introduced and talking at the outset.

This is the first year I have attended the conference. I think the most valuable element so far has been the birds-of-a-feather session and I'd suggest expanding on that. The best talks have been those that mix real-world experience and projects with big picture ideas. The presentations by Seb Chan and Aaron Cope were strong examples of this.

justin_heideman's picture

I like this idea, too.

Would force some people to keep their ideas concise, and I think it would allow people to present projects and work that might otherwise not get seen. I think a lot of people don't want to deal with the hassle of papers and doing an entire presentation.

I would like to see a call for this ahead of time, not just ad-hoc style like the birds of a feather thing or the interactions day. Perhaps it could take place on the interactions day, but we should know ahead of time what's going on where.

At the very least, taking more a cue from BarCamps and DemoCamps would be rad.

frankieroberto's picture

I think it'd be really interesting to have a session/discussion on how you can 'link up' the web and the on-gallery experience. I'm constantly being asked how we can connect the physical museum to the web, and so far haven't gone much beyond adding 'e-mail me a link to this' buttons on touch-screen kiosks.

ThT's picture

There is Semapedia to link articles in Wikipedia with their physical representation. I've seen a Semapedia tag for the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco recently. For a similar Web 2.0 approach see "Building an On-line Community at the Brooklyn Museum."





frankieroberto's picture

Semacodes are cool, but I doubt many people know how to use them yet.

 I was thinking less of technical solutions and more about social propositions: where does it make sense, and add value, to link data and content between museum galleries and online?  Examples might be in being able to view comments posted online on gallery, and vice versa.

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