Gov’t scientists: Cesium from Fukushima to reach Atlantic Ocean

Radioactive cesium from Fukushima on tour of Pacific Ocean, Telegraph, September 15, 2011:

Scientists from the government’s Meteorological Research Institute and the Central Research Institute of the Electric Power Industry announced their findings at a meeting of the Geochemical Society of Japan this week, adding that some of the cesium will also flow into the Indian Ocean and, eventually, reach the Atlantic.

The scientists estimated that some 3,500 terabecquerels of cesium-137 was released into the sea directly from the plant between March 11, when the earthquake and tsunami struck, and the end of May. Another 10,000 terabecquerels of cesium fell into the ocean after escaping from the reactors in the form of steam. [...]

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35 comments to Gov’t scientists: Cesium from Fukushima to reach Atlantic Ocean

  • arclight arclight

    “The scientists estimated that some 3,500 terabecquerels of cesium-137 was released into the sea directly from the plant between March 11, when the earthquake and tsunami struck, and the end of May. Another 10,000 terabecquerels of cesium fell into the ocean after escaping from the reactors in the form of steam.

    One terabecquerel is a trillion becquerels, the standard measure of radiation, and the Japanese government has set the permissible level of iodine-131 for vegetables and fish at 2,000 becquerels per kilogram (2.2lbs).”

    means it is going to the atlantic via south africa? or around south america?

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    • arclight arclight

      it will take 40 years via south africa.. from this link…..

      Cesium in Pacific likely to flow back to Japan in 20-30 years

      September 14, 2011

      “The researchers estimated that the amount of radioactive cesium-137 that was directly released into the sea came to 3,500 terabecquerels over the period from March to the end of May, while estimating that roughly 10,000 terabecquerels fell into the ocean after it was released into the air.”

      “”To get a complete picture of cesium-137 released in the accident, we need highly precise measurements across the Pacific,” Aoyama said before Wednesday’s meeting.”

      http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110914p2g00m0dm104000c.html

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  • catweazel

    2Cs + 2 h2o = 2 CsOH + H2 . there is no cesium steam although it melts at 30 Celsius. it will violently react with humidity producing hydrogen

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  • jonjon

    4 reactors in full meltdown or 3? How many with MOX? Two? THis is ridiculous. Had it happened in the middle of a big continent like Russia or central Europe, it would be the end of it. The Japanese media tells us the contamination is less than Chernobyl but they forget to tell us, only for Japan. The rest of the planet and the ocean is gravely contaminated and continues to be. Fukushima has taught us that each country is on its own even during a planetary crisis. Imagine if this happened in India and China and they didn’t have a clue have to fix it. It would simply be the end of civilization in the absence of an international collaboration.

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    • I believe it was three reactors & four spent fuel pools, but I could be wrong. Also think it was only one reactor – 3 – that used MOX. The Indian government wants to build a HUGE plant in Jaipur, and the people protest that if Japan is inept in dealing with a crisis, how is India going to be? Anyone who’s ever been to India would question this! Anyway, statistically in another 20-30-40 years we’re going to have another huge, nuke catastrophe some place else. We’ve already had Three Mile Island and Simi Valley in the US alone…

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      • Grace Grace

        This is a repost, a great effective idea: BNP Paribas and HSBC are funding this Indian folly, I think it’s on a major fault line too Jaitapur. If this is your bank – this is what your monies are being used for, if you don’t like it – change it and let the bankers know why – move the money away.

        http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/Blogs/nuclear-reaction/nuclear-banks-no-thanks/blog/11946/

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        • jonjon

          THank you for letting us know this about those 2 banks. Hopefully should there be as predicted a huge solar maximum at the end of 2012, with the consequences it could have, that is, power grid total failure, all banks database will be temporarily off the grid and money won’t yield any value or power for anyone. If this can last for months or years, the absurdity of constructing nuclear power plants would become evident even to the bankers. Even more so, if this power grid failure causes a dozen fukushima to happen around the same time… ouch… I do hope we’re not heading straight over the cliff. Human civilization killed by its own stupidity, with a little trigger from the unpredictability of mother nature (solar tsunamies).

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        • anne anne

          They have abandoned this project. But are considering Terrapower. Thousands of these smaller nuclear energy units will kill us all off just as well.

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  • Hemisfear311

    The Central Research Institute of the Electric Power Industry.

    I’ve never heard of them before. Their website http://criepi.denken.or.jp/en/index.html indicates inducates that there haven’t been much acitivy for a long time (Check out the dates on their “What’s New” post).

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  • Pallas89juno

    This is another disinformation article. Of course FukuDai radionuclide contamination will reach all oceans eventually–from direct contamination from the plant via geological substrates at FukuDai as ONE source, and from airborn Fukushima corium, intentional incineration and accidental fires aerosolized, atomized and particalized fallout as the other source! Notice that the article makes it, once again, seem as though the events of March 11, or March 12, 14, and 15, are the totality of the events from a framing standpoint…the beginning and the end. Yes, it’s talking about radiation from FukuDai effects extending to a present or future time but the framing is clearly to imply that the worst is behind us. Remember that the, very little reported, reality is that due to very wet and permeable geology beneath the constantly fissioning and increasingly radioactive, increasingly dangerous coriums at Fukudai, radionuclide contamination into connected coastal ocean water currents is continuous, worsening and intensifying with the worst INITIAL (from FukuDai itself) releases of radionuclides occurring in some undetermined FUTURE with worse than initial releases into the ocean occuring DAILY and UNCONTROLLED by any possible strategy given current technology and current problem resolution management methods, which are wholly inefficient being from the top down—just a few pinheaded humans trying to solve the worst crisis humans have ever encountered! These idiots are using abused…

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    • Pallas89juno

      We need directly democratic, public controlled and engaged, collective problem resolution–daily jurored–facilitated equally by public and expert input to solve or to ammeliorate the daily worsening conditions of the Fukushima Cataclysm, as well as to resolve apparently diversifying nuclear reactor failures among an increasing number of the remaining 1000 or so nuclear reactors around the planet. These all must be immediately shut down by any means necessary.

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      • I completely agree with you. This article is disinformation. I’m formally endorsing you as a trustworthy evaluator of the news. Good insights too!

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      • Noah

        Your points are salient and correct

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      • voltscommissar

        (about a week late!) telegraph.co.uk is a notoriously conservative pro-business pro-establishment newspaper, even tho’ not owned by Murdoch. The telegraph journo certainly seems to have swallowed the disinformation whole. What the Japanese scientists omitted from their sumplistic “bury the problem 1500 ft below the ocean surface for at least one half-life” model is that cesium is water soluble like potassium, and enters the food chain, so basically will bioconcentrate in phytoplankton in the TOP 50 METRES of the ocean where the light is, and get concentrated by jellyfish, molluscs, squid, fishes, dolphins and whales. When sea birds poop on land the cesium will be returned to the land, where it is still constantly leaking from anyway (as others have mentioned).

        What a great shame that we don’t get the occasional science or even physics graduate who becomes a top-knotch journalist, to ask all these nuclear spin doctors, with their rose-coloured spectacles, a few hard questions.

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  • catweazel

    and only for the logs : they try to avoid peta it seems, 10 000 tera = 10 peta

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    • arclight arclight

      “we need highly precise measurements across the Pacific,” Aoyama said before Wednesday’s meeting”

      think these figures are dreadfully innacurate… these figures show less contamination than sellafield in terms of isotopes!?? it doesnt seem logical!!

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  • arclight arclight

    ???????????????????
    “TOKYO, Aug. 24 (Kyodo) — The amount of radioactive substances emitted into the atmosphere from the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant is now estimated at 570,000 terabecquerels, down from an earlier estimate of 630,000 terabecquerels, the chairman of the Nuclear Safety Commission said Wednesday.”

    http://www.chem.info/News/2011/08/Safety-Estimated-Release-of-Radiogens-from-Fukushima-Plant-Lowered/

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  • arclight arclight

    wonder who supplied these new figures to the telegraph etc?? wonder if its any one we know??

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  • kintaman

    I have already stopped eating any seafood. Thanks TEPCO and Japan government.

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  • arclight arclight

    this is wierd.. ive just posted and managed to get back to the thread through the coments section where there is 17 comments from a parralel thread that had only three comments!! @admin??

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  • many moons

    Not to worry….
    To quote BP…It’s a big ocean….it will be dispersed…it’s OK, been happening for years…
    Look at all the crap that went into the Gulf and that region is fine, it’s as if there wasn’t even a problem cause there paractically wasn’t one…a few pelicans had to be bathed, let’s not exagerate.
    If every large company in the world were allowed to pollute all they wanted the world would be a better place…ya know why, cause we would all be richer and could afford a seat on the next spacecraft out of here!

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    • Pallas89juno

      Dear Many: Are you kidding? Nothing personal against you. I’m just concerned that you are believing something that an oil corporation would say to cover its own ass, or that you would believe obvious and smarmy PR. The Gulf region is not fine and it’s possible that the leaking from the Macondo well continues. The effects from the toxic chemical, Corexit, used to “disperse” (read, “HIDE” for BP) the 2010 BP Gulf Gusher plume are very long-term and we haven’t even begun to see the end of these consequences. The U.S. is NOT known for good food safety standards and I can nearly guarantee you that many millions of people are ingesting dangerously tainted seafood theoretically FDA inspected that has toxic Gulf Gusher Macondo Well oil and, at least Corexit, residues in dangerous amounts contained therein.

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  • Darth

    If the oxygen producing algae are mutated such that they put out less oxygen we will all die from suffocation.

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    • Pallas89juno

      Darth it’s true that ocean cyanobacteria alone and contained in algae and other lifeforms are responsible for 90% of O2 production each year. All the plant life on the planet is responsible for only about 10% of O2 production each year. However, I don’t know the amounts of O2 lost or consumed from the atmosphere by all processes, biological, chemical or other each year. That would be an interesting information source.

      Also, marine plankton in general is responsible for a very high percentage of CO2 sequestration (binding or taking CO2 out of the atmosphere) and I’m not sure how the chemical, radiological and overall ecological changes effecting the world marine environment are going to, in a positive feedback loop (bad thing), contribute to overall annual net CO2 additions to the atmosphere.

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  • Blown Camaro

    “Round and round. What goes around, comes around. I’ll tell you why. Dig!”

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