The CIA's Secret Sites in Somalia
Nestled in a back corner of Mogadishu’s Aden Adde International Airport is a sprawling walled compound run by the Central Intelligence Agency. Set on the coast of the Indian Ocean, the facility looks like a small gated community, with more than a dozen buildings behind large protective walls and secured by guard towers at each of its four corners. Adjacent to the compound are eight large metal hangars, and the CIA has its own aircraft at the airport. The site, which airport officials and Somali intelligence sources say was completed four months ago, is guarded by Somali soldiers, but the Americans control access. At the facility, the CIA runs a counterterrorism training program for Somali intelligence agents and operatives aimed at building an indigenous strike force capable of snatch operations and targeted “combat” operations against members of Al Shabab, an Islamic militant group with close ties to Al Qaeda.
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“The implications of allowing a US citizen to assemble a legion in any foreign country, and especially in a combustible region like the Middle East, are serious and wide-ranging,” they allege.
'Essentially, the CIA seems to be operating, doing the foreign policy of the United States,' said a well-connected Somali analyst.
As part of its expanding counterterrorism program in Somalia, the CIA also uses a secret prison buried in the basement of Somalia’s National Security Agency (NSA) headquarters, where prisoners suspected of being Shabab members or of having links to the group are held. Some of the prisoners have been snatched off the streets of Kenya and rendered by plane to Mogadishu. While the underground prison is officially run by the Somali NSA, US intelligence personnel pay the salaries of intelligence agents and also directly interrogate prisoners. The existence of both facilities and the CIA role was uncovered by The Nation during an extensive on-the-ground investigation in Mogadishu. Among the sources who provided information for this story are senior Somali intelligence officials; senior members of Somalia’s Transitional Federal Government (TFG); former prisoners held at the underground prison; and several well-connected Somali analysts and militia leaders, some of whom have worked with US agents, including those from the CIA. A US official, who confirmed the existence of both sites, told The Nation, “It makes complete sense to have a strong counterterrorism partnership” with the Somali government.
The CIA presence in Mogadishu is part of Washington’s intensifying counterterrorism focus on Somalia, which includes targeted strikes by US Special Operations forces, drone attacks and expanded surveillance operations. The US agents “are here full time,” a senior Somali intelligence official told me. At times, he said, there are as many as thirty of them in Mogadishu, but he stressed that those working with the Somali NSA do not conduct operations; rather, they advise and train Somali agents. “In this environment, it’s very tricky. They want to help us, but the situation is not allowing them to do [it] however they want. They are not in control of the politics, they are not in control of the security,” he adds. “They are not controlling the environment like Afghanistan and Iraq. In Somalia, the situation is fluid, the situation is changing, personalities changing.”
According to well-connected Somali sources, the CIA is reluctant to deal directly with Somali political leaders, who are regarded by US officials as corrupt and untrustworthy. Instead, the United States has Somali intelligence agents on its payroll. Somali sources with knowledge of the program described the agents as lining up to receive $200 monthly cash payments from Americans. “They support us in a big way financially,” says the senior Somali intelligence official. “They are the largest [funder] by far.”
According to former detainees, the underground prison, which is staffed by Somali guards, consists of a long corridor lined with filthy small cells infested with bedbugs and mosquitoes. One said that when he arrived in February, he saw two white men wearing military boots, combat trousers, gray tucked-in shirts and black sunglasses. The former prisoners described the cells as windowless and the air thick, moist and disgusting. Prisoners, they said, are not allowed outside. Many have developed rashes and scratch themselves incessantly. Some have been detained for a year or more. According to one former prisoner, inmates who had been there for long periods would pace around constantly, while others leaned against walls rocking.
A Somali who was arrested in Mogadishu and taken to the prison told The Nation that he was held in a windowless underground cell. Among the prisoners he met during his time there was a man who held a Western passport (he declined to identify the man’s nationality). Some of the prisoners told him they were picked up in Nairobi and rendered on small aircraft to Mogadishu, where they were handed over to Somali intelligence agents. Once in custody, according to the senior Somali intelligence official and former prisoners, some detainees are freely interrogated by US and French agents. “Our goal is to please our partners, so we get more [out] of them, like any relationship,” said the Somali intelligence official in describing the policy of allowing foreign agents, including from the CIA, to interrogate prisoners. The Americans, according to the Somali official, operate unilaterally in the country, while the French agents are embedded within the African Union force known as AMISOM.
Among the men believed to be held in the secret underground prison is Ahmed Abdullahi Hassan, a 25- or 26-year-old Kenyan citizen who disappeared from the congested Somali slum of Eastleigh in Nairobi around July 2009. After he went missing, Hassan’s family retained Mbugua Mureithi, a well-known Kenyan human rights lawyer, who filed a habeas petition on his behalf. The Kenyan government responded that Hassan was not being held in Kenya and said it had no knowledge of his whereabouts. His fate remained a mystery until this spring, when another man who had been held in the Mogadishu prison contacted Clara Gutteridge, a veteran human rights investigator with the British legal organization Reprieve, and told her he had met Hassan in the prison. Hassan, he said, had told him how Kenyan police had knocked down his door, snatched him and taken him to a secret location in Nairobi. The next night, Hassan had said, he was rendered to Mogadishu.
According to the former fellow prisoner, Hassan told him that his captors took him to Wilson Airport: “‘They put a bag on my head, Guantánamo style. They tied my hands behind my back and put me on a plane. In the early hours we landed in Mogadishu. The way I realized I was in Mogadishu was because of the smell of the sea—the runway is just next to the seashore. The plane lands and touches the sea. They took me to this prison, where I have been up to now. I have been here for one year, seven months. I have been interrogated so many times. Interrogated by Somali men and white men. Every day. New faces show up. They have nothing on me. I have never seen a lawyer, never seen an outsider. Only other prisoners, interrogators, guards. Here there is no court or tribunal.’”
After meeting the man who had spoken with Hassan in the underground prison, Gutteridge began working with Hassan’s Kenyan lawyers to determine his whereabouts. She says he has never been charged or brought before a court. “Hassan’s abduction from Nairobi and rendition to a secret prison in Somalia bears all the hallmarks of a classic US rendition operation,” she says. The US official interviewed for this article denied the CIA had rendered Hassan but said, “The United States provided information which helped get Hassan—a dangerous terrorist—off the street.” Human Rights Watch and Reprieve have documented that Kenyan security and intelligence forces have facilitated scores of renditions for the US and other governments, including eighty-five people rendered to Somalia in 2007 alone. Gutteridge says the director of the Mogadishu prison told one of her sources that Hassan had been targeted in Nairobi because of intelligence suggesting he was the “right-hand man” of Saleh Ali Saleh Nabhan, at the time a leader of Al Qaeda in East Africa. Nabhan, a Kenyan citizen of Yemeni descent, was among the top suspects sought for questioning by US authorities over his alleged role in the coordinated 2002 attacks on a tourist hotel and an Israeli aircraft in Mombasa, Kenya, and possible links to the 1998 US Embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania.
An intelligence report leaked by the Kenyan Anti-Terrorist Police Unit in October 2010 alleged that Hassan, a “former personal assistant to Nabhan…was injured while fighting near the presidential palace in Mogadishu in 2009.” The authenticity of the report cannot be independently confirmed, though Hassan did have a leg amputated below the knee, according to his former fellow prisoner in Mogadishu.
Two months after Hassan was allegedly rendered to the secret Mogadishu prison, Nabhan, the man believed to be his Al Qaeda boss, was killed in the first known targeted killing operation in Somalia authorized by President Obama. On September 14, 2009, a team from the elite US counterterrorism force, the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), took off by helicopters from a US Navy ship off Somalia’s coast and penetrated Somali airspace. In broad daylight, in an operation code-named Celestial Balance, they gunned down Nabhan’s convoy from the air. JSOC troops then landed and collected at least two of the bodies, including Nabhan’s.
Hassan’s lawyers are preparing to file a habeas petition on his behalf in US courts. “Hassan’s case suggests that the US may be involved in a decentralized, out-sourced Guantánamo Bay in central Mogadishu,” his legal team asserted in a statement to The Nation. “Mr. Hassan must be given the opportunity to challenge both his rendition and continued detention as a matter of urgency. The US must urgently confirm exactly what has been done to Mr. Hassan, why he is being held, and when he will be given a fair hearing.”
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I've always admired your courage and mouse reporting...that is you don't sit in a motel room and report..Keep up the great work,
Scahill's reporting is great; the best you will find here.
But if you want more consistent progressive reporting on the CIA, the economy, globalism and everything you should check out other sites such as this Canadian one:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/
That site is what The Nation - as the "flagship of the American Left" - should look like as far as content is concerned.
Makes The Nation look amateurishat best.
Looking good. Tear it up CIA, but do us all a favor and don't hire anymore "contractors".
P.S. the arch-traitor Teddy Roosevelt was also the originator of the Green movement (he was the first to call himself "progressive" closing off the Western United States to development and setting a pattern for the British empire to close off vast areas as "parks" on the African and Australian continents but which became and still are staging grounds for terrorists and mercenary armies. He also managed the economic coup d'tat (he called it "anti-trust") that allowed Wall St. & its Rothschild & Morgan banksters to take over the American economy. Anti-trust was really a cover name for anti-American. And he established the prototype for the CIA along British lines & created the FBI out of the KKK & put the KKK's & the Mafia's lackey, the homosexual J. Edgar Hoover in charge of this new American version of the British secret police. May Teddy Roosevelt rot in hell.
and the rest:
The attack on Cuba was a repeat of a similar, private war against Cuba that TR's buddy's in his Scull & Bones secret society waged a few years before TR's "charge" to return slavery to Cuba & establish a base for organized crime. Where they failed, TR succeeded.
And then there is Wilson who reminds me much of Obama. Wilson's message was that of hope (remind you of anyone?) & he claimed to be the father of modern liberalism when in fact he was the secret but factual head of the KKK in America, built that organization to monstrous strength, worked with the Brits in organizing WWI, and sent unknowing American farm boys to die in that war under stupid upper-class British officers & under the KKK's General Pershing who got his name "blackjack" because he could handle the former slaves who were now the majority in the U.S. army. Bush can not hold a candle to the arch-traitors Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.
And now there is the Wilson clone Obama.
I assume Alterman will now defend Wilson as he is Obama.
2. posted by: jedi_mindtrick at 07/20/2011 @ 5:28pm
If Alterman made the statement that Bush was the worse President since Buchanan then, again, I have to ask why is he writing for The Nation when clearly he knows nothing about history.
Buchanan was the worst, now doubt about that. He was the homosexual, paid agent of British Prime Minister & head of British intelligence Lord Palmerston. Just before Lincoln took the oath of office, Buchanan looted armories in the north & shipped guns to secessionist agents in the South to begin the Civil War.
Alterman knows this and he is right. But Altermana completely ignores other arch-traitor presidents. The next worst (much worse than Bush whom I despise) has to be Teddy Roosevelt. Scion of a Wall St. family, trained by his uncle who had been head of the Confederate intelligence services, TR was not simply an agent of British intelligence but an active collaborator with the Fabians & with King George V in organizing anti-American free trade schemes & the lead-up to WWI. TR helped put the KKK into the White House in the form of his successor Woodrow Wilson, & he organized the phony charge up San Juan Hill to bolster his political position. The attack on Cuba was a repeat of a similar, private war against Cuba that TR's buddy's in his Scull & Bones secret society waged a few years before TR's "charge" to return slavery to Cuba & establish a base for organized crime. Where they...
Barack Obama is Factually Worse Than George W. Bush
“As Jeremy Scahill made crystal clear on his Morning Joe appearance Monday, Barack Obama is factually worse than the Cheney-Bush regime because he has expanded our illegal wars and off shore prisons, while effectively defanging the vast majority of Leftwing opposition.” ~http://tinyurl.com/3aqeck4
This past weekend, C-Span’s Book TV aired a panel discussion from the LA Times Book Festival on April 30th that included Katrina vanden Heuvel and Eric Alterman discussing the first two years of Barack Obama’s presidency.
http://tinyurl.com/4yyptev
The panel began with Garrett Graff--editor of the Washingtonian magazine and a former Howard Dean deputy press secretary during his ’08 presidential campaign--speaking for several minutes as the self-described “far right wing” of the panel, followed by Katrina and then Eric.
[I didn’t get much of an impression of Garrett Graff other than he seemed like a rather typical beltway-ish, Ivy league grad kind of figure, and the book he is currently plugging, “The Threat Matrix”—on the FBI and its recent history--, appears to be essentially a rah-rah tract (it’s hard to tell from the Amazon page).]
In any case, Katrina was her usual graceful, incisive self and Eric was his, more or less usual, sharply intelligent, but just a bit overbearing self. To be clear, I like both of them.
Here’s the deal, folks. After taking the requisite shots at Obama for his multitude of sellouts, the resounding message in the end was basically, “Yeah, Obama has been a huge disappointment but he IS our only hope, and there is still time for him to pull out a miraculous rebound so we need to maintain our support for him.”
This is borderline insanity. I understand that The Nation magazine has a tenuous position to maintain between wealthy donors/Party loyalty and the seething masses of (rightfully) angry progressives, but the ultimate disconnect with on the ground conditions echoes Obama’s own almost unfathomable disconnect.
Let’s call a spade a spade, readers. As Jeremy Scahill made crystal clear on his Morning Joe appearance, Barack Obama is factually worse than the Cheney-Bush regime because he has expanded our illegal wars and off shore prisons, while effectively defanging the vast majority of Leftwing opposition.
Eric Alterman’s talking points were the most egregious of the conference. Eric disparaged George Bush’s presidency as the worst since “at least Buchanan”, and then he simultaneously defended Obama’s Libya debacle as “open to debate” in regards to its moral/ethical value--in spite of a mountain of data suggesting that the operation is simply a classic contemporary example of an imperial smash and grab.
Jeremy Scahill, You are a hero to many in Ron Paul Movement.
Check this out:
http://www.dailypaul.com/171265/jeremy-scahill-uncovers-secret-cia-sites-in-somalia-morning-joe-msnbc-july-18-2011
19. posted by: lvliberty1 at 07/15/2011 @ 3:55pm
And Larry - don't forget that your boy Bush sold about $20 trillion of arms to Saudi Arabia which had to be followed by giving Israel $30 billion, and Bush green lighted Saudi Arabia's nuclear program (hey - where is Muslim menace cry on this one).
You act like the US and Saudi are estranged lovers fearful of one another. And, for your information, Goldman Sachs commoodity traders are responsible for "speculative" premium on oil - not the Saudi Arabia - though I don't doubt that Saudi traders join in the fun by buying options on the very oil that they just sold.
'A 2005 Central Intelligence Agency assessment of Africa's long-term prospects predicted that "most of Africa will become increasingly marginalized as many states struggle to overcome sub-par economic performance, weak state structures and poor governance."
'As of 2008, Africa reportedly surpassed the Middle East as the main oil supplier to the United States. By 2020, Washington expects one-quarter of its oil imports will be from Africa.
"When President Obama took office in January 2009, it was widely expected that he would dramatically change, or even reverse, the militarized and unilateral society policy that had been pursued by the George W. Bush administration toward Africa and other parts of the world," Africom critic Daniel Volman noted in an April 2 report for Inter Press Service.
"After one year in office, however, it is clear that the Obama administration is following essentially the same policy that has guided the U.S. military toward Africa for more than a decade.'
Obama expands U.S. military ops in Africa
Published: April 6, 2010 at 2:12 PM
UPI.com - Excerpts
And, "marginalization" is ever so good for taking control and having it your way.
2. posted by: lvliberty1 at 07/19/2011 @ 2:08pm
Well - if Blum told you that you are f__king nuts - get help; I would consider him very credible without even turning a page of his book.
'Blum is fighting a tide of Americans growing less and less conscious of history, and this history, which has strongly shaped our present culture and political climate, was always propagandized, obscured, or swept under the rug as it unfolded'
Looks like a good one BK.
posted by: jedi_mindtrick at 07/19/2011 @ 2:00pm
Blum is not credible and I've told him so in exchanged correspondence
"Hind Sight" is Never 20/20
Johnny “man tits” Maasch:
“I don't see a problem here…The CIA is charged with gathering intelligence to protect American security and interests...and they seem to be doing it…”
Imagine that. The guy blessed with “hind sight”—quoted from past post—can see “no problem here”.
Here’s a more clear-eyed—less obscured by bloated ass cheeks, perhaps--take:
Legacy of Ashes by Tim Weiner--http://tinyurl.com/5vrcbpq
Starred Review. Is the Central Intelligence Agency a bulwark of freedom against dangerous foes, or a malevolent conspiracy to spread American imperialism? A little of both, according to this absorbing study, but, the author concludes it is mainly a reservoir of incompetence and delusions that serves no one's interests well. Pulitzer Prize–winning New York Times correspondent Weiner musters extensive archival research and interviews with top-ranking insiders, including former CIA chiefs Richard Helms and Stansfield Turner, to present the agency's saga as an exercise in trying to change the world without bothering to understand it. Hypnotized by covert action and pressured by presidents, the CIA, he claims, wasted its resources fomenting coups, assassinations and insurgencies, rigging foreign elections and bribing political leaders, while its rare successes inspired fiascoes like the Bay of Pigs and the Iran-Contra affair…
And from the author’s preface:
The challenge of understanding the world as it is has overwhelmed three generations of CIA officers. Few among the new generation have mastered the intricacies of foreign lands, much less the political culture of Washington. In turn, almost every president, almost every Congress, and almost every director of central intelligence since the 1960s has proved incapable of grasping the mechanics of the CIA. Most have left the agency in worse shape than they found it. Their failures have handed future generations, in the words of President Eisenhower, “a legacy of ashes.” We are back where we began sixty years ago, in a state of disarray.
And one more for good measure:
Killing Hope by William Blum--http://tinyurl.com/65ag6p5
It's a dense and heavily footnoted book, but turns out to be exceedingly readable. Pick any chapter at random and one can sit down for a smart 15-minute history lesson. I find Blum's book superior to others in the same field such as Chomsky. Blum throws in small doses of sarcasm and black humor even. He is merciless and sharp... I'm sure some would call it "slanted." However, considering the facts (or purported facts), one can see why the author is so relentless. Blum is fighting a tide of Americans growing less and less conscious of history, and this history, which has strongly shaped our present culture and political climate, was always propagandized, obscured, or swept under the rug as it unfolded. It is a subject of the highest importance, and Blum handles it admirably. Buy copies for your friends and enemies.
Peace, and Vale.
The author is outraged about things that have been done by the USA and other nations for decades...the equipment has changed but other than that nothing...
Extremely naive...when you consider that we have an enemy that has no borders or country! When we are dealing with corrupt gov't officials and forces...very naive! Might want to review some material on Churchill to begin!
1. posted by: theshadowknows at 07/18/2011 @ 12:19pm
Interesting read Shadow on Africa. Good read on Winston Churchill and India during WWII - Churchill's Secret War by Madhusree Mukerjee. Starvation Joe Stalin style. I am thinking of the 1.2 million Iraqi children gone during the Clinton administration. Unreal.
Nothing would surprise me on Iran, but I am thinking after the 2012 elections, and Obama needs to get our war creditors on board for more war through some smoke and mirrors. I wonder if they can convince a coalition of the willing to share some sacrifice on financing war on Iran, or are we going to do it on our own, after Israel false flags us (again) into hostilities.
Project for New America Century
"We aim to change this. We aim to make the case and rally support for American global leadership"
hehe - even if it kills us.
Heard a little LBJ - Everett Dirksen historical telephone chat today on Tom Hartman regarding Ronnie Raygun dealing with Iran on releasing the hostages in a timely manner to help his election, and some interesting stuff on Nixon sabotaging the peace process with the Commies in the Vietnam War for his political purposes. LBJ called it treason - and he ought to know "Gulf of Tonkin."
Hang em high. "Old Glory" is looking a little faded.
And to slightly go off topic again (but the CIA is involved), Obama is getting ready to support Israel's attack on Iran within the next 8 to 9 weeks.
The CVN 77 G.H.W. Bush has just entered the Persian Gulf, the first time a US aircraft carrier has passed through the Straits of Hormuz in months. What is also notable is that the LHD 5 Bataan amphibious warfare ship has just weighed anchor right next to Libya: this is odd since the coast of Tripoli had been left unattended for many weeks by US attack ships. And topping it all off is that a third aircraft carrier, the CVN 73, is sailing west from the South China seas, potentially with a target next to CVN 76 Ronald Reagan which is the second carrier in the Straits of Hormuz area.
And CIA veteran Robert Baer (the man played by George Clooney in Syriana) just appeared on KPFK Los Angeles and said Netanyahu will attack Iran within a few weeks. You can expect a false flag CIA/MI6/Mossad covert op blaming the Iranians for some terrorist act as the casus belli for this new war from Obama and Netanyahu (and Tony Blair is orchestrating the whole thing from his perch overseeing the Middle East, as most of us who have been following the march up to this war know.
If the false flag terrorist act is on U.S. soil, this will also provide Obama with his "emergency" to suspend the Constitution.
and Africa is not the only target of Gates seeds. He and Monsanto are forcing them on America which will result in a cycle of weeds resistant to chemicals & then every more toxic chemicals -- all from Monsanto & Mr. Gates. Weeds instead of crops for Africa and for America. Although I have no doubt the CIA is helping Gates in Africa, I have no evidence the CIA will be helping distribute them here at home. But I could be wrong. The CIA, despite laws against it, does have a long-running, illegal domestic program - from blackmailing politicians, watching American citizens & setting up the string of neocon foundations responsible for the vast right-wing conspiracy (matching the earlier CIA/Ford Foundation sponsored liberal foundations). Thus the CIA is able to manipulate both the left and the right. So maybe manipulating the environment for the Corporate Green Movement is something the CIA would do. Need to investigate this more, don't we? P.S. The CIA also maintains secret prisons on ships off shore some of which have been in U.S. waters (again illegal.
In sum,
The goal of Obama, the CIA, AFRICOM, the Brits and their Euro allies (and oligarchs like Gates & Obama's chief adviser Brzezinski) towards Africa is the same old western imperialism. When he should be offering development, science and progress, all Obama is offering Africans is war, poverty and death. Sort of like what he beginning to offer Americans.
And just as can not ignore the larger war fighting environment when we discuss the secret CIA base in Somalia, we also can not ignore the larger genocidal efforts of western oligarchs towards Africans. The latest effort being that of Bill & Melinda Gates to starve Africans in the millions. Gates, who long ago merged Microsoft with the Pentagon and the intelligence community, is spending millions on a “Trojan horse” to open the door for private agribusiness and genetically engineered (GE) seeds, including a drought-resistant corn that Monsanto (which Gates is heavily invested in). This follows on Gates' and his fellow "philanthropist" Warren Buffet's (main partner with Lord Rothschild in hedge fund schemes) WEMA program. The program is supposed to help farmers in several African countries increase their yields with drought- and heat-tolerant corn varieties, but a report released last month by the African Centre for Biosafety claims WEMA is threatening Africa’s food sovereignty. The CIA is involved in all of Gates operations in Africa. Gates has long been a proponent of population control and a supporter of Brzezinski's idea that society should be ruled by a technocratic elite.
Oh, I forgot to mention the other reason for Obama's war against Africans and that is to wage a new cold war with China which has a growing presence in African nations fed up with western imperialism.
And the JSOC operation mentioned in this article only hints at Obama's AFRICOM warfighting in Africa. AFRICOM is not only engaged in attacking Libya but operations on the Horn of Africa are daily now and there are other covert CIA/AFRICOM wars throughout the continent now under Obama. When the west should be helping Africa industrialize and modernize we are only helping Africans to die.
and as for the CIA in Africa:
http://kinetictruth.com/2011/06/15/cia-expands-war-on-terror-into-africa/
http://balawegaya.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/cia-trying-to-destabilize-africa/
http://alexandravaliente.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/libya-and-the-cia-role-in-africa/
http://www.jstor.org/pss/159742
http://www.spyflight.co.uk/CIA.htm
http://in2eastafrica.net/kenyan-%E2%80%98held-at-secret-cia-jail%E2%80%99/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/12/somalia-cia-base_n_895762.html
http://empirestrikesblack.com/2011/03/brookings-instituteex-cia-wonk-reveals-middle-east-agenda/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Africa
http://globalvoicescensored.wordpress.com/category/cia/
and there is lots more.
Obama and the CIA and their British masters have one goal for Africa and that is destabilization, destruction of infrastructure, biological warfare and starvation.
Watch this video to understand what Obama is bringing next.
http://www.rightsworkinggroup.org/content/bordc-video-unpatriotic-act-cointelpro-20
For a Country which professes a love of individual freedoms and rights, it seems to act in a routine manner as described and revealed here, as well as in other areas of the World, highlighting the behaviour of a bigotted and hypocritical Nation.
However, and true to previous form, American administrations have had no problems, of an ethical or principled nature, in doing business with dictators and despots, whenever the need has arisen, using the facile mantra: "we are acting in the best interests of this great American Nation".
Another is supporting those fighting a communist insurgency.
Are the American people so gullible to believe any of this "well researched" propaganda put out by elected Governments that behave in this manner?
While the global economy continues to collapse & the CIA crusades, Obama's new Gestapo wannabes prepare for domestic turmoil:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/19/opinion/19sun1.html
The FBI is being reorganized for domestic repression as the oligarchy fully expects American's will not take kindly to the economic tsunami headed for our shores.
Obama's adviser Brzezinski said so on his daughter's Morning Joe program on the Obama channel, MSNBC. Brzezinski, of course, is the oligarchical strategists who proposes technocrat control of society, nuclear war with Russian and China, who was also chief adviser to the failed Carter administration and who now warns his fellow "progressives" that middle class unrest is coming & must be dealt with.
The FBI is getting ready.
It is happening right in front of you.
1. posted by: lvliberty1 at 07/15/2011 @ 4:55pm
1.All of this confirms that a British/Saudi/American oil oligarchy conspired to a) create a Clash of Nations (imperialist euphemism for a 21st Century version of a medieval crusade) under the name "War on Terror" and b) a police state in America based upon the Patriot Act. That was the purpose of the attack on the WWTC here in New York City on 9/11.
It is not fear of causing WWIII that prevents Bush and now Obama from doing their sworn duty & pursuing the Saudis & Brits involved in the attack which lives in infamy (as well as pursuing some Americans now because of the cover-ups). The international oligarchy is pursuing WWIII quite steadily. No, the reason for the cover ups is to pursue the crusade & increasingly create a police state in America. This is happening right before your eyes, yet many of you are so bound to your ideological beliefs, partisan careers, and your benefactors money that you still can't accept reality.
After Obama (or Perry following him) comes after everyone else, who will protest when they come after you. Your right-wing views will not protect you from fascism, lvliverty1. Hitler & Mussilini eliminated their right, not just those to the left or minorities.
posted by: theshadowknows at 07/15/2011 @ 3:17pm
I no longer watch Morning Joe because I simply tired of the liberal backslapping as opposed to presenting anything of value. And Scarborough is no conservative so it's laughable to watch him call himself one.
As to Graham and Vanity Fair. Nothing that I haven't already known. The Vanity Fair piece is the usual leftist inuendo on it's most serious accusations.
But the real facts as to this.
1.All of this confirms that Islam is dedicated to bringing Western civilization under the thumb of Islam.
2.In every Arab/Muslim govt there are true believers who want to further this goal
3.Saudi Arabia is the elephant in the room that NO President regardless of party will touch. The reason being that it would provoke WWIII in a way that no country benefits from. Saudi Arabia not only controls the flow of oil in the world, but it is the home of Islam with the two holiest sites in Islam located there, Mecca and Medina.
4.Any so called “cover-ups” are a recognition by Bush, Obama, and whoever follows that any attempt to go after Saudi Arabia would be disastrous for not only the US, but the entire world. That is no good, but it is the truth.
Finally, I'm a big Ron Paul supporter, except when it comes to his foreign policy views. Those are straight out of the old school isolationist doctrine and have a negative effect on our position in the world.
2. posted by: lvliberty1 at 07/15/2011 @ 3:58pm
Several conservative congressmen disagree with you. Ron Paul does.
And you did not address the Vanity Fair article (hardly a Larouche front) or Bob Graham's comments on Morning Joe and other outlets.
1. posted by: lvliberty1 at 07/15/2011 @ 4:00pm
I have many friends from the Farm and was involved in Navy Intelligence during the 60's.
I have worked on black programs with Congress and the military during my civilian career.
I'm proud of our CIA and their role in keeping America safe.
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Then you must be a criminal also. And you never kept America safe, you and your lowlife ilk have only endangered America with your black ops.
I don't think you can name one operation by the CIA that protected America, only the multinational corporations.
posted by: lvliberty1 at 07/15/2011 @ 12:17pm
Gee, you must be the only guy in the world who thinks the CIA are good guys and don't have a long and sordid history of criminal activity.
posted by: guyfromkalamzoo at 07/15/2011 @ 2:10pm
There are far more supporters then you think.
I have many friends from the Farm and was involved in Navy Intelligence during the 60's.
I have worked on black programs with Congress and the military during my civilian career.
I'm proud of our CIA and their role in keeping America safe.
posted by: theshadowknows at 07/15/2011 @ 1:57pm
More proof that you don't know what you're talking about and merely spout the nonsense that Lyndon LaRouche puts out.
Peter Bergen demonstrated that Bin Laden and AQ had nothing to do with the CIA.
http://www.peterbergen.com/articles/details.aspx?id=479
Marc Sageman, a Foreign Service Officer who was based in Islamabad from 1987–1989, and worked closely with Afghanistan’s Mujahideen had this to say…
Contemporaneous accounts of the war do not even mention [the Afghan Arabs]. Many were not serious about the war. … Very few were involved in actual fighting. For most of the war, they were scattered among the Afghan groups associated with the four Afghan fundamentalist parties.
No U.S. official ever came in contact with the foreign volunteers. They simply traveled in different circles and never crossed U.S. radar screens. They had their own sources of money and their own contacts with the Pakistanis, official Saudis, and other Muslim supporters, and they made their own deals with the various Afghan resistance leaders.”
http://therealrevo.com/blog/?p=44895
1. posted by: lvliberty1 at 07/15/2011 @ 12:17pm
Gee, you must be the only guy in the world who thinks the CIA are good guys and don't have a long and sordid history of criminal activity.
I guess you think all these are also nonsense (some of these sources are conservative, others are liberal, some are just news or professional).
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/mariner/20070220.html
http://www.guidetoaction.org/magazine/oct96/cia.html
http://www.amnesty.name/en/appeals-for-action/polish-investigation-cia-crimes-questions-over-secrecy-remain
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1dsdv_crimes-of-the-cia-1988_news
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2009/08/05/panetta-seeks-to-whitewash-cia-crimes/
http://www.cjournal.info/tag/cia-crimes-in-latin-america/
http://www.dailypaul.com/167775/report-grand-jury-probing-possible-cia-war-crimes-in-iraq
I am really trying not to comment any more on these useless articles in the Nation, but this demands attention.
For all of you Liberal and Conservative ideologues out there who called me names, engaged in ad hominem attacks and ridiculed me for stating that on 9/11 we were attacked the Saudi Arabia and that both the Bush and the Obama administrations are actively covering this up, please read the current newsstand issue of Vanity Fair magazine that has a lengthy article, "The Kingdom and the Towers" documenting the role of a number of members of the Saudi Royal Family in bankrolling al-Qaeda and the 9/11 hijackers. Also you might have seen Morning Joe this morning when Sen. Graham went into this at length and mentioned the involvement of the British in the attack on America. So there!
P.S. it relates to this blog because the CIA helped set up AQ and still runs many of its branches.
posted by: guyfromkalamzoo at 07/15/2011 @ 9:21am
stated like a true marxist ideologue. Your post could just as easily come from a World Socialist Website column or a Bob Avakian diatribe.
And Blum is a pathetic liar and I've stated that to him.
Your link is a pack of nonsense.
1. posted by: lvliberty1 at 07/15/2011 @ 12:32am
This is what the CIA (whom you thank goodness for) does:
http://scribblguy.50megs.com/atrocities.htm
And they do not fight terrorists, they create terrorists, or so history teaches us.
thank goodness we still have the CIA. If liberals had their way we would be inviting terrorists sip some tea and munch on granola bars
As someone here noted; doesn't the U.S. have security bases in Chad and Uganda, etc. Of course, there is some good in making sure the security of the country is foremost. But on the other hand, I sometimes get the feeling that our country is sometimes similar to a Cocaine or Meth addict who is so nervous and paranoid that he can't keep his or her head from constantly still and constantly looks over their shoulder to see who is trying to harm them. We, lately or for some time as a country are doing the same thing! In my opinion, the only way we can put this paranoid feeling to a halt is too stop getting into other countries economic and social business. We now feel we must have our tentacles over most of the world and oversee governments throughout. Not only is this political and social judgement, but we cannot continue to pour so much of our monetary wealth to fund these other countries as noted in this article.
I read somewhere that the CIA also has bases in Uganda, Chad and the CAR. What do you know about this Mr. Scahill?
Another disturbing example of the blurred lines between intelligence, combat and law enforcement. Time to put a leash on CIA activities.
1. posted by: srjenkins at 07/14/2011 @ 12:09am
That is all mentioned in the book The Shock Doctrine. If you look at what is taking place in the U.S. and in Greece, it's also practically a blueprint of what was also mentioned in the Shock Doctrine.
Our fearless leaders are forced to cut social safety nets while at the same time protect the helpless richest people in the country? I love being lied to, please fearless leaders in D.C. tell us some more.
Hey, all those folks that are wondering, "What's the problem here?" I'd suggest looking at the U.S. history of conducting wars by proxy and what the "graduates" of our training programs have gone on to do. From Wikipedia:
"On September 20, 1996, the Pentagon released seven training manuals prepared by the U.S. military and used between 1987 and 1991 in Latin America and in intelligence training courses at the U.S. School of the Americas (SOA). The manuals were based in part on lesson plans used by the school as far back as 1982 and, in turn, based in part on older material from Project X.[2] According to Lisa Haugaard of School of the Americas Watch, these manuals taught repressive techniques and promoted the violation of human rights throughout Latin America and around the globe.[13] The manuals contain instructions in motivation by fear, bounties for enemy dead, false imprisonment, torture, execution, and kidnapping a target's family members."
What do you think the CIA is teaching the Somalis? Maybe a little more reading in Latin American history? I'd recommend a little time with Penny Lernoux - who incidently did some reporting for The Nation.
I will have no blood on my hands nor people abused in my name. I will vote Green.
I saw an interview with Jeremy today on Democracy Now!, he went into further detail on the prisons and talks about his experience in Somalia, his interviews are always worth watching, check it out: http://www.democracynow.org/2011/7/13/jeremy_scahill_reveals_cia_facility_prison
Good stuff jedi_mindtrick. Thanks for the links too. : )
Thanks for the information Could this go back in time...and might have nothing to do even with some Presidents. Like Area 51 some Presidents may be ignorant about some covert organizations, and could also face its wrath. In one area there is "overt operation, and in another covert operation". Is there any place where there is no operation? Even our bathrooms seem unsafe these days!
Thanks for the excellent investigative work, and keep safe Jeremy.
