'Drawbridge rising' as gold-plated pension pots are phased out of private sector

By Becky Barrow

Last updated at 8:48 AM on 15th December 2011

Joanne Segars of the NAPF said staff were being 'frozen out' of the best pictures

Joanne Segars of the NAPF said staff were being 'frozen out' of the best pensions as 'the drawbridge rises'

Gold-plated pensions in the private sector will have almost disappeared within a decade, experts warned yesterday.

Bosses are shutting schemes in record numbers, according to a survey published by the National Association of Pension Funds.

In 2008, only 3 per cent of ‘defined benefit’ pensions, such as final-salary schemes, had closed to new members.

Just three years later, the proportion has rocketed to 23 per cent – and will keep rising until gold-plated pensions in the private sector are close to extinction.

NAPF estimates that in the past three years, up to 250,000 workers have been kicked out of final-salary pension schemes and shifted to cheaper alternatives.

Laith Khalaf, of financial advisers Hargreaves Lansdown, said: ‘Every week, another big company says it is going to close down its pension.

There will be just a handful of defined-benefit schemes in the private sector left in ten years’ time.’

Joanne Segars, of NAPF, said staff were being ‘frozen out’ of some of the best pensions as ‘the drawbridge rises’.

NAPF’s annual survey, published yesterday, shows bosses are closing defined-benefit schemes to cut the amount they pay in, and switching workers to less lucrative ‘defined-contribution’ schemes.

Fewer and fewer private companies are offering employees gold-plated pensions

Fewer and fewer private companies are offering employees gold-plated pensions

For example, the average payout from a defined-benefit pension is £7,290 a year. For a defined-contribution scheme, it is only £1,400.

Of pensions still open to existing staff, 30 per cent ‘expect to close’ in the next five years and 11 per cent will make other changes.

Public-sector staff are rapidly becoming the only workers who can look forward to a good retirement payout. A typical state worker gets a pension of £7,840 a year, while two thirds of private-sector staff do not have a single penny in a company scheme.

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Everyone is taking a hit - except the fat cats and politicians ofcourse.

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Wifes gold plated pension after 22 years as admin officer in civil service is £2750 a year ,we have a fantastic lifestyle with new cars every 3 years or so and we invested the large £6,000 lump sum payment in a high interest account which pays another £15 a month ,its a problem knowing where to spend all this cash ,with so much cash flowing in we are considering a weekend in Scarborough for our holidays next year ,we thought about Maldives etc but decided we didnt fancy mixing with all other gold plated pension grabbing civil servants . No wonder govt want to put a brake on these payouts for all the greedy public sector . Yes get your money stashed away every month and you too can share this lifestyle.

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This is the true scandal, Thatcher (pension holidays) and Brown (Dividend tax)beleieved pension pots were a cash cow to be plundered because of the rise in the stock markets of the late 80's and 90's which made the pension funds very healthy. Trouble is the market turned as it always does but they left the pension funds unable to weather the downturn and now they are all closing. It has very little to do with people living longer.That is just a smoke screen thrown up by politicians and their lackeys to divert peoples attention from the fact that Govt destroyed the worlds healthiest pension schemes. Instead of a race to the bottom the urgent work that needs to be done is to concentate on how to resurrect these schemes so that everybody can enjoy the safe and secure pensions that they signed up to. What was Camerons response? Oh yes change future pay rises for public AND private pensions from RPI to CPI. A further damaging plunder of our pensions.It is theft of another 25%.

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I just nearly fell off my chair when reading some comments from pensions minister Steve Webb-He said -I do not want to see people who are doing the right thing by saving ending up with very little for their retirement because the system is too complicated.He then goes on to say-I want to make it as easy as possible for people to grow big fat pension pots.What planet is this bloke living on,what with Brown's 5 billion a year raid on them which of course the Conservatives whilst in opposition for all those years never tried to reinstate and the rest being devoured by some of the highest pension charges in the world we will be lucky to be left with just our bus fares home.If the pension minister has any more pearls of wisdom perhaps he would just like to keep them to himself in future.

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Surely this could and should be turned around but there will have to be tax incentives. Obviously idiot Brown didn't help matters but what he did in '97 - in fact it would be interesting to know just how bigger nail in the coffin that was for many of these schemes. Public sector workers whining about their pensions need to think about that - I'm sure many public sector workers voted for him. That action dismayed many private sector workers at the time but little could be done as it wasn't your company pilfering your pension but the Government (Brown) so its hardly like we could have gone on strike. Also he was quite clever and thought people wouldn't notice - many didn't. That man's fingerprints are depressingly over almost everything that has gone wrong since 97.

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If the Goverment in the 80s had not told so many companies to take pension holidays would we be here? They stopped companies investing into them. This money was not invested by paid out in dividends where the Govement could collect 40% in tax. The Tory answer to this is NEST and for millions they would have to wait a year longer. The Tory RPI to CPI is just another race to the bottom.

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Why doesn't the Government do a Bank style Bailout of the Pensions schemes. Also they could "privatise" the Public Pensions schemes and make the money available to the Economy - these pension funds invest Billions in the Economy why not add the Public Pensions to it. At the same time make a guarantee that everyone (working) can join a scheme to get a decent pension. Why shouldn't the Private sector be no worse than the Public sector (we're all Tax Payers). As was said, "a race to the bottom benefits no one".

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About time. But as always those at the bottom end always suffer as with public sector. The private sector big cats interviewed on TV and constantly claiming the gold plated public sector scheme are unfair and needed attention. Well now they too can feel the pain. No doubt they will be given an option to jump ship early on the old scheme! So when will we see the same to MP's who pensions seem to be overlooked and dismissed as not for consultation.... maybe then the field we all seem to be balancing on due to its swift tilt and constant change will appear a little more level.

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Ah yes but only for the riff-raff ,the ones that count eg the top people in the company will still retain theirs and the share accounts and all the other perks they enjoy. When company profits are starting to slip someone needs to make sacrifices what better choice than the ordinary employees .

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If Gordon had not plundered their coffers in the 90s would these pension funds still be viable?

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