Reading Originals

In my view one of the most glaring indictments of the way philosophy and other humanities are taught and practiced is the senseless insistence on reading original works by the great masters. This is most apparent in the continued consumption of Plato, Hobbes, Aristotle and the like in philosophy but can be equally well be seen in the reverance for Chaucer, Shakespeare or other literary classics. To my horror this reverence for the original works is even being promoted in economics. So even though I gave a short reply in the comments at overcoming bias when this issue came up I’ve been meaning to discuss the question in more detail.

For the moment I’d like to set aside the issue of literature for another post and focus on subjects like philosophy and economics where (at least in theory) the aim is to genuinely progress towards a (more) accurate/useful understanding. Since I find it genuienly perplexing why one would ever feel the need to read the originals rather than the digested and improved material found in modern expositions as one does in math of physics I’ll quote Tyler Cowen’s justifications for returning to the original thinkers. Obviously these don’t represent every possible justification but they are the best justifications I’ve ever heard.

First though I’d like to be perfectly clear that the issue under consideration is whether there is some pedagogical benefit to reading original thinkers as opposed to modern summaries (of either the original thinker or simply the current state of the discipline). There is no accounting for taste so if you simply have some Plato fetish or like the way reading Plato makes you feel sophisticated you might find it more enjoyable to read Plato rather than more modern work just as someone else might prefer to have their philosophical arguments interspersed in Harry Potter slash. Also if your interest is in original historical research then influential works are a reasonable thing to read1 but again the question at hand is the benefit of reading original works by great thinkers to the advancement of the discipline itself not it’s history or the practitioners feelings of sophistication. With this point clear let’s examine what Tyler Cowen has to say point by point.

1. Secondary sources are unreliable and they do not capture or understand many of the original insights. To remove it from the distant past, what I get from John Rawls or Robert Nozick is quite distinct from what I get from their distillers.

So what? The standard isn’t whether a latter distillation captures the exact content but whether it’s a more effective way to gain understanding. Reading a modern calculus book is extremely different from reading the original Newton. Newton’s notions of infinitesimals and fluxions have been excisced wholesale and replaced with the modern notions of limits and epsilon-delta proofs and that’s a huge improvement in the ability of calculus books to convey understanding.

2. Truly great thinkers require numerous distillers. Can you read just one book on Keynes? No. So you have to read a few. Shouldn’t one of these then be Keynes himself? Yes.

This presupposes the goal is to understand what Keynes thought. Keynes was a brilliant economist but he was just as human as the rest of us and some of his ideas were simply confused or poorly thought out. The benefit of later distillers is to transmit the insights while avoiding the confusions, so no, one of these shouldn’t be Keynes himself.

I mean imagine Keynes was really a highlander and was still alive and at the height of his intellectual powers. Who would it be more beneficial to read the 1936 Keynes or the 2010 Keynes who has used the intervening years to excise the confused parts of The General Theory and find more lucid explanations of the key insights? Surely it’s the 2010 Keynes who would (likely) provide the better explanation (if you disagree would you go back to his half-assembled notes? Further?). Yet surely if Keynes could improve on his own work than (as the goal is to convey economic ideas not Keynes personal beliefs) surely others could as well, especially when the benefit from the collaboration and exchange of ideas provided the academic discipline.

3. The errors of top thinkers are often more interesting and instructive than their successes. Distillers have a hard time capturing these errors and their fruitfulness.

But that’s the wrong comparison. The right comparison is whether it’s more useful to build upon the work of past greats and digest this new material including the mistakes made by those who have built upon the great thinkers of the past than to spend time digesting the errors of the past. Obviously if it was costless one would read every book on the subject but the key question question is would the time spent exploring the errors made by Keynes be better spent exploring later work that builds upon his insights.. The reason it’s so tempting to advocate reading originals is that we don’t properly take into account the opportunity costs incurred reading those originals.

Moreover, given that there is only so much time for students (or professors) to devote to learning a subject either one must give up totally on the idea of making progress or admit that it’s sometimes more effective to substitute modern materials for some works of great thinkers. Hence this argument either proves too much (progress is impossible because it’s always better to learn from the mistakes of past great thinkers) or proves nothing at all since we continuously make beneficial trade offs of replacing originals with more modern works.

4. We often read great thinkers not to learn what they understood but also to set our minds racing and to find interesting new questions. Great thinkers are usually better at supplying this service than are their distillers.

Again this assumes that the job of the distiller is to summarize the original author. A good analysis book doesn’t summarize Newton it digests his insights and presents them as part of a grander theory. Reading a modern analysis book does a much better job a posing interesting new questions than does reading Newton.[^empirial]

Moreover, I suggest this is largely a placebo effect. One is told that the reading great thinkers in the original is particularly inspiring so we search for questions to inspire us. We would probably do equally well if told that Joyce’s Ulysses conveyed deep economic questions. If you doubt this consider the stunningly large number of people who, despite not being religious, claim to derive deep moral messages and insights from the bible despite it’s blatant encouragement of genocide, rape, and every other kind of brutality imaginable.

5. Sometimes the value is in having read common sources and benefiting from the commonality per se. Great thinkers are usually more focal than any of their distillers and thus reading them is a good input for discussions with others.

OFten this is simply false as influential textbooks and articles are often just as widely read. More importantly by virtue of the novelty of their ideas original thinkers are usually lacking in clarity meaning the same work is usually interpreted in a host of different ways.. However, even if true this argues for more canonical books. In mathematics this issue is solved by the publication of various yellow books that provide a common base for everyone to use as a reference and there is no reason not to do the same for other subjects.

6. Original sources often help you challenge or reexamine your world view or intellectual ethos. Distillers very often pander to that world view, while pretending to challenge you.

Given their status as influential originals the content in these works has largely been either incorporated into your modern world view or people have developed standard objections. I know my world view (or even philosophical position) has never been threatened by the original work of an past great thinker but often it’s been shaken by a new argument or idea from a modern source.

7. Consider a simple comparison. You can read either Adam Smith’s two major books or any ten or even twenty books on him, toss in articles if you wish. It’s a no-brainer which you should choose.

Right, neither. Who the hell cares what some dude named Adam Smith thought. Given the choice between reading a modern economic textbook and any of Adam Smith’s books I know which one I would choose and it’s the same thing we always choose for undergraduates.

8. The best distillers often are original sources in their own right (and in part unreliable expositors), such as in Charles Taylor’s excellent book on Hegel.

Again the false dichotomy. Instead of trying to find out what Hegel said we should be finding out what is true (which in the case of Hegel will involve simply ignoring him).

9. Distillation works best in very exact sciences, such as physics and mathematics. If you rely on distillation for an inexact science, you will do best at capturing its exact parts. You will be left with a systematic bias, and knowledge gap, regarding its inexact parts.

So it’s only when you can’t actually go out and check whether going back to read the original works by great thinkers that it’s beneficial? That’s awful suspicious


Stepping back for a moment I would point out the fact that there are many different mutually contradictory disciplines of theology (every major world religion has one). Thus regardless of your religious views (and especially if you are an atheist) you must admit that there are academic disciplines which are totally bullshit. Now I would point out that in virtually all instances of theological study the original work of prior influential (but not prophets or otherwise supernaturally gifted) theologians is regarded as similarly important to read in the original.

Hence, we must all admit there are situations where academic disciplines are convinced of the important of reading influential past thinkers in the original despite even though it provides no actual benefit. Conversely in all those disciplines where we have reliable quantatative measurements of progress (with the obvious exception of history) returning to the original works of past great thinkers is decidedly unhelpful. Therefore at the very least anyone who wishes to claim that reading past great thinkers in the original (be it Plato, Keynes, Aristotle or whomever) has a substantial argumentative burden to meet and until they do the assumption should be against spending time doing so.


  1. Though here the most influential mistranslations and confused interpretations are the more important objects of study rather than more accurate modern reconstructions and translations. 

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  1. Have some sympathy for me then as a sociology grad student at the university of chicago.

    • TruePath says:

      Ohh, I do. One of the reasons I feel so strongly about this issue is that my dad kept talking up UofC’s great books program (or whatever it’s called) the whole time I was growing up and kept hoping I would go there for undergrad or grad school (I didn’t go there for either). Anyway that’s one of the reasons this attitude has become a pet peeve of mine.

  2. brazil84 says:

    I was directed here from Lesswrong and I basically agree with you.

    I would add that in law school, many classes require you to waste a lot of time reading old cases in order to learn one little point of law.

    Fortunately, most law students learn pretty quickly that you can buy commercial outlines which summarize the important cases in easy-to-read English.

    • Oneiric says:

      Not a law student, so I may be way off in this.. but would the point of making you read old cases not be so much about reading the old case and learning about its specifics as much as to train you to break down a case and find that ‘one little point of law’ for cases you’d be pleading as a lawyer?
      If that’s true, a distillation would not serve the purpose – since you’re not likely to find a distillation of a current case available or useful…

      • TruePath says:

        Also law at least has the explicit norm of deferring to old influential stuff just because it’s old and influential.

        Physics doesn’t care if the great physicist Pauling said something was true. The court cares a great deal if the prior esteemed members of their court (or better yet a superior court) have said something.

  3. Thank you for this piece of clarity in a world of madness…

    If this was the most read blog post of all time, I’d be a happy man.

  4. John Maxwell IV says:

    progress is impossible because it’s always better to learn from the mistakes of past great thinkers

    It’s useful for a while but brings diminishing returns.

    Reading great thinkers might also be useful if it gives you a glimpse at not just what their thoughts were but also how they had their thoughts. It’s not useful to know that some greek philosopher thought men had more teeth than women, but it’s useful to know that he was dumb enough to think that.

    BTW if you had a traceback section this would probably be in it: http://lesswrong.com/lw/1ul/for_progress_to_be_by_accumulation_and_not_by/

  5. Ian says:

    I’m essentially in agreement with you. I’m reminded of creationists who attempt to refute evolution by looking for flaws and holes in Darwin’s work, blissfully ignorant of the fact that they’ve been fixed in the intervening 150 years.

    But there are a few instances where returning to the originals has some utility. I went to the U of C as an undergrad and experienced the whole great books thing. The value of reading, say, Kant in a general education context is not learning what Kant thought–learning particular facts has limited utility–but in learning how to think, how to understand difficult material, and to be skeptical and critical of what you read.

    Second, the picture is quite different when your goal is not to learn what’s already known but to do new research. I’m a grad student in math, clearly a field that benefits enormously from distillation and simplification of work, but when doing research it’s almost always necessary to return to the original papers except for the oldest, best-understood topics. Understanding the entire history of thought on some topic is quite useful in this case. For example, the original proof of a theorem may be long and convoluted, but the paper may contain useful nuggets about how the authors actually came up with their proof or half-baked conjectures and ideas that are needed to move forward.

    • TruePath says:

      But there are a few instances where returning to the originals has some utility. I went to the U of C as an undergrad and experienced the whole great books thing. The value of reading, say, Kant in a general education context is not learning what Kant thought–learning particular facts has limited utility–but in learning how to think, how to understand difficult material, and to be skeptical and critical of what you read.

      Of course it has value. Reading the little comments some undergrad left in the margins of the critique has some utility as well. Maybe reading “Kant’s so gay… I hate this fag,” will spark an important philosophical thought about the role of sexuality in metaphysics. It’s surely more likely to produce useful thought than if you literally did nothing (ceased to think) during that time.

      That’s not the question. The question is whether it’s a better use of your time than reading something else. Personally I don’t think offensive margin notes by an undergrad make the cut and I would continue to think so even if they happened to give me a great idea once.

      The problem here is you directly observe the ideas you got reading Kant while the ideas you might have had reading some modern philosopher during the same time are much less salient to you since you can’t point to them.

  6. hatposts says:

    I agree with what you say and I certainly wouldn’t read Adam Smith to learn economics. Instead I read him for the alternative reasons you suggest. His writing style makes his books a pleasure to read and leave me wondering if he might have made a good novelist. He is also worth reading if you are curious about whether he deserves the praise and vitriol that is heaped upon him in approximately equal quantities and also if you are curious about the times in which he wrote.

    But I definitely wouldn’t recommend reading him to learn economics. You can gain a better knowledge of the subject more quickly by picking up any modern economics textbook.

  7. Lee M says:

    I am visiting your website by way of your blog named in one of your Slashdot web posts.

    Looking at your argument as a piece of argumentation, I would say you have presented a successfully organized essay. But it seems to me that you really do understand the importance of reading original writers.

    To belabor the point, you argued well and I am sure you will revisit the classics, or at least check them out of the library and scan them as needed.

    One of the really fun things about going back to the hoary old original sources is the fascinating side thoughts that have been overlooked by the “distillers”.

    I had occasion recently to read “The Theory of Moral Sentiments” by Adam Smith. This wildly popular work predates his famous book by 20 years. The time span between the two books covers the Watt steam engine and the American Revolution. Reading the older book is like a visit to the “modern mind” while the secondary science of Economics was solidifying out of the churning components of the Enlightenment.

    So I say, feel free to ignore the distillers anytime.

    • TruePath says:

      Look I don’t have any beef with people finding it fun to read the originals. I might want to enjoy myself reading some scifi story while you enjoy the experience of reading the original Adam Smith. Great! But that’s just a matter of taste. Just because you have fun reading a certain book doesn’t mean other people will. The question is whether it’s a good way to learn about the subjects these original works made their major contributions to.

      I don’t doubt that reading Smith is a better way to learn about what the historical person thought or what it was like to invent these economic concepts than reading a modern economist. However, that’s not why people think Smith’s work is great. Few people would think it important to read Smith if he’d been a crackpot with totally crazy theories even if he’d had the same subjective experience of developing them and was equally good at capturing the sense of the times. What I’m arguing against is the idea that it’s useful to read Adam Smith to be good at economics.

      Again I don’t doubt that Smith’s work inspires all sorts of interesting side thoughts. However, so too do modern economic papers. The question is whether reading Smith actually inspires so many more interesting thoughts than the same time spent reading modern economic texts that it makes up for all the misguided notions, false starts, and incomplete presentation that always plague the first description of novel work.

      One reason I think many people falsely believe the great originals have these superior properties is that in school they are exposed only to great originals and modern textbooks so the great originals are the only things they read that present original research, and grapple with unsolved questions. But that’s a consequence of this fetishization of the originals not a necessary situation.

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  9. peli grietzer says:

    I think there’s a distinction to be drawn between studying from the originals (using Adam Smith or Descartes as a textbook), and studying the originals in a “History of…” class. While both may be a waste of time for a mathematician or a physicist, I think that for an economist or a philosopher the latter can have significant — if rapidly diminishing — utility. So, I’ll be arguing that it’s a good idea to encourage philosophy and economics students to take some “History of…” classes.

    Here’s why I think that’s the case: In philosophy and economics, progress often comes from diagnosing and correcting the discipline’s own bad habits and cancerous mistakes — some of the most significant contemporary work in either field is work that exposes hidden biasses, implicit assumptions, unwarranted intuitions, and so on. And in both philosophy and economics, the biasses that need to be corrected are often ones that are specific to the discipline, and have a historical origin, rather than general human biasses. (I doubt that most people would intuit that perfect information is an innocuous assumption for an economic model that’s meant to predict the way markets behave, or intuit that qualia is bound to reduce into physical/functional facts under the right analysis.) While it surely is possible to spot, diagnose, and overcome present disciplinary biasses simply by being an incredibly good economist or philosopher, one thing that’s very helpful is to look at the inception of currently prevalent methods, assumptions, intuitions, and so on. Reading the original gives you the best view of the web of beliefs from which a position or an idea first originated, and of the reasons for which it became popular within the discipline. While a notion’s having a problematic history (e.g. the arguments that made it commonplace are nothing like the arguments used to defend it today, or it’s a claim that was originally inferred from a now-discredited premise but nowadays people cite it as raw intuition or common sense) isn’t gonna matter if you’re absolutely certain that the modern usage of the notion is good philosophy/economics, and also isn’t gonna matter if you’re absolutely certain that the modern usage of the notion is bad philosophy/economics, it is a seriously useful discovery if you are anywhere in the middle. Not only does such a discovery give you a good reason to take whatever suspicions you presently have about the notion’s soundness more seriously — and to pursue developing them into definite arguments –, it also gives you useful hints about what bad implicit assumptions to look for or what intuition pumps to construct in attacking the notion.

    I’d point out that this does, I think, explain why “in all those disciplines where we have reliable quantatative measurements of progress (with the obvious exception of history) returning to the original works of past great thinkers is decidedly unhelpful.” Once a discipline has an idiot-proof way of seeing what works, it doesn’t have to spend so much time on spotting, diagnosing and uprooting its own bad habits.

    • TruePath says:

      Let me be clear. I have no objection to the idea that a genuine intellectual history of a subject can be useful to learn and to help draw attention to persistent problems or biases in your subject. The point I object to is your claim

      Reading the original gives you the best view of the web of beliefs from which a position or an idea first originated, and of the reasons for which it became popular within the discipline.

      Indeed, reading the actual original is usually one of the worst ways to get at the web of beliefs from which the idea originated and gives little to no hint as to why the idea became popular. Unless you are an expert in 16th century history and theology reading Kant won’t reveal why he argued for the positions he did and quite likely you will interpret many of his views differently than his contemporaries would have done. Rather than reading Kant a philosopher interested in intellectual history would be better served by reading a treatise on Kant’s works written by an expert in that period of intellectual history. You’ve only defended the point that someone should care about what Kant said and why he said it and I don’t have a problem with that. Where I have the problem is with having people who simply aren’t equipped to genuinely work out the intellectual history read the original rather than reading the work of someone with that expertise.

      I mean we can bring this discussion back to the hard sciences. It’s also true in sciences that an understanding of the history of science can help scientists recognize when they are letting their prejudices interfere with their objectivity, when it’s advisable to step carefully and when a new theory should be pursued. For instance realizing that it was the mechanistic view of the universe given by newton that caused everyone to assume the existence of an either until Einstein despite lacking any evidence makes scientists aware of how thoroughly a particular picture of the theory can make them blind to alternatives. But it would be silly to go send scientists to read the original papers by Newton, Maxwell and so forth. Much better to send someone who can understand the theological and intellectual references in Newton to read it and summarize.

      Finally, I’d point out that that a policy encouraging knowledge of intellectual history is only a very limited tool (if it works at all) in digging out the kind of biases you worry about. If you branch out on your own to learn some piece of intellectual history not normally emphasized in your subject that might be useful but the institutionalized study of intellectual history in a subject will simply perpetuate the current biases.

      • I should have explicitly said that by “studying the originals” I mean studying the originals in an intellectual history class taught by an intellectual history expert. This would be, I think, equivalent to “reading a treatise on Kant” in most respects, with two important caveats: 1) covering Kant in a “History of Philosophy” class with Kant readings might take a little more time than reading a book about Kant, and 2) in a class you can argue, ask questions, compare the professor’s analysis to the textual evidence at hand, and so on.

        I think the positive effect of ’2)’ by far outweighs the negative effect of ’1),’ for reasons mentioned in your final paragraph. Simply reading a story about Kant and his era is unlikely to produce novel insights about the manner in which contemporary philosophy is shaped by influences going back to Kant’s time, but studying Kant with the help of an expert who provides a story but also lets you compare the story to the evidence at hand and will answer questions and challenges and so on migh allow you to make independent discoveries or at least develop some reasonable novel hunches that you can further explore later if they start seeming important based on your experiences working in philosophy.

        I suppose I am relying here on my belief that in the humanities, intellectual history included, one can start germinating reasonable novel ideas (maybe not novel to humanity, but novel in the sense of not being standard fair taught to everyone) after a relatively modest amount of training. I’m also assuming that readings in old texts, when guided by an expert, aren’t all that difficult or taxing or annoying — at least not more so than reading a book about old scientists or old philosophers. (I’ll admit that the scientists/philosophers/economists that I know personally might have an unusual amount of informal training in dealing with intellectual history. It could be that most graduate students in these professions wouldn’t get anything useful out of a chance to form their own ideas about Newton/Kant/Smith in a helpful environment.)

        I still think the difference between at least hard science and philosophy (not sure about economics)is critical here. People in the hard sciences have so many different way to make a contribution that it’s not that big a deal if lots of them don’t maximize their chances of discovering a blindspot in the discipline. But in philosophy there’s barely any valuable work to do that doesn’t involve discovering a blindspot in the discipline, so even if it takes a non-trivial amount of training to make philosophers capable of (assisted) original thought on intellectual history it is probably worth it.

  10. David Gerard says:

    I believe you are in error listing Shakespeare or Chaucer here. They are studied not as stepping stones to present-day excellence, but because they are still excellent. Literature (and art in general) does not “progress” in the manner of science, technology or philosophy – everyone is trying to do the best they can with what they’ve got at the time. There is artistic progression of sorts, traceable influences and so on – but that’s not the same as saying that the 21st century has much better art than anything Shakespeare managed, analogous to the genius Isaac Newton came up with being covered in first year these days.

  11. Lucas says:

    Well, it has come to that subject again, hasn’t it? :P
    First of all, yes, I’ve read the Altruistic Awesomeness, but since it’ll take a lot more of work for me to reply to that one, I suppose I’ll start with this one, since that’s something we have already discussed before. :P
    With all due honesty, I think you’re somewhat overreacting. Yes, yes, I know that most colleges overdo the whole “reading the classics” point, but that doesn’t mean we should take a stab at the extreme opposite direction – that would be assuming way too much – which seems exactly what you’re doing.

    I’d rather not argue in that direction through offering a number of different arguments: seems better to point out what might be the main issue here, and why that should be of relevance to discussing whether or not reading the classics is worth it. That said, the main point, or so it seems to me, is this one: it seems to me that you make the assumption that whatever is new and based upon what was produced before is nearly always (if not always) better than that which was written before. It seems like a “progressionist” assumption: one that states that any knowledge built upon past knowledge is necessarily and wholly better – that is to say, applies to a wider range of cases on all areas it’s applied to – than that knowledge upon which it was built. Or to put it in another way: there’s no manner in which past knowledge is relevantly superior to present knowledge built upon the former. And that would be due to the fact that present knowledge is the sole product of corrections and improvements upon past knowledge, which renders the latter logically impossible to be superior in any way at all.

    If I am correct to assume that this is your assumption, then I must say it seems to me that you’re wrong: present knowledge isn’t built solely upon corrections and improvements of past knowledge: it’s also built upon the commitment of mistakes and simplifications which can often be BASED on past knowledge, but not present in it (resulting from it due, for example, to a particular interpretation or appropriation of it). There is, of course, progress, but it’s not integral, but rather partial. Which means that there is, also partial “regression” (it’s not the ideal word to use, since you’re not necessarily making a regression towards somewhere, but rather just staying within shorter limits than past knowledge did).

    If that is the case, then one can find plenty of reasons to the read the classics – many of which can be found in the arguments you confronted in your text, as long as we understand them as based in the assumption that knowledge isn’t solely progressive. Because then we can understand why we should expect to find in the classics some ideas better elaborated or constructed than in the modern writings which are based upon those classics; the misinterpretations that modern authors make about the “classics’” ideas can make it so that the knowledge they build upon these classics have flaws that the classics their selves didn’t; sometimes, what’s really in question isn’t even the flaws, but simply the fact that classics can be interpreted in different ways and lead to different research programs, which can be very desirable to further the advancement of knowledge, and would be impaired in a number of ways, if people only read what was based upon classics (being therefore more inclined to follow an already present research program) and not the classics themselves (which would allow them to create new research programs based on those classics, and not merely, at best, research programs based on research programs based on those classics, which would limit at an important level the number of difference between programs and, therefore, quite possibly, the number of contributions that are offered to knowledge as a whole).

    I guess that, putting it in a broader way, what I mean is that past knowledge isn’t only quantitatively different from present knowledge, but also qualitatively – and, due in large part to being qualitatively different, they’re also quantitatively different. What do I mean? I mean that it’s precisely because present knowledge doesn’t merely add to past knowledge that past knowledge, in certain aspects, can be quantitatively superior (and not only inferior) to present knowledge. Due to being qualitatively different, the quantity of knowledge by either cannot be subsumed under the other. Nor can, in a broader sense, their productivity. Past errors, as observed by one of the arguments you questioned, can offer better and more relevant insights than present mistakes – especially when what is in question is, precisely, the foundations upon which present knowledge is built, and what problems can it contain. (And that upon which a present knowledge is built is hardly ever as clear in that knowledge as it is in the very foundation upon which it was built – that is to say, the classics).

    Of course, it’s important to note what I’m NOT saying. I don’t mean we should read more classics than contemporary writings. I don’t mean classics are better than present works, or the reverse. I mean, simply, that they are different, and in a way that one can’t be forced to decide between the one or the other. Each has a decisive role in the forgery of knowledge, and neither should be dismissed in their role. I won’t deny that colleges quite often forget the role of present publications; but that changes nothing. One should not confuse how colleges understand the importance of reading the classics as the only way of attributing importance to them, to such a point that if we don’t agree with the perspective taken by such colleges, we should completely discard the reading of the classics. Such aggressivity, I believe, is uncalled for. There’s no need for taking sides.

    Either way, I understand that your position may be based upon deeply rooted conceptions of knowledge, science, and so forth and so on, to a point that would be impossible for us to discuss all the different assumptions we make and how they differ. Nevertheless, it seems to me that your position is deeply based upon a certain ideal of progression that I do not share; and the very fact that we don’t seems good enough a reason to discuss it, no matter if we can’t ever convince the other that our “ideals” are more, er, convincing. :P

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