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May
09

Rockin’ It Old School

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Paul Maples, Gary Hutzel’s favored motion control man, prepares to fly the USS Enterprise old school, at Image G in Studio City. Mike and I were lucky enough to be there for what was probably the last time this icon would be physically photographed.

It was the end of a long week at work for me, and I am ready to wash those pixels outta’ my hair. I don’t know about you, but I need to look at some physical models for a little bit. When I feel that way, it’s the original Enterprise for me. It just cannot be beat. It’s a masterpiece. How is it possible that a 45 year old speculative spaceship design still stirs the imagination? I’m talking the alpha ship, from the original series. No restyling, or updating needed. Don’t misunderstand me. I am 100% for stretching the Star Trek mythos in as many ways as it can go. That sort of defines what science fiction is all about… stretchability, flexability, and let’s see what this baby can do. I simply love this design in it’s original state, and IN PERSON. So hey, I’m gonna’ surf thru those days back at G and the 1701… no bloody A, B, C, or D…  and get misty for a minit, so why don’t you come along? I know you feel just like I do…

 

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Enterprise mounting point.

This angle has such an amazing intersection of lines and perspectives going on, that it fires off a signal in my brain to release endorphins. Of course, this is Greg Jein’s Five and a half foot, ten day miracle. Put together with all the standard stuff like plastic, metal, and lights, but what real makes it is the amount of love that went into it’s fabrication. Building this was not a job to Greg and his crew. It was done with reverance and a certain amount of awe.  Here you see one of the numerous mounts built into the model. The original eleven footer had only one mounting point on the bottom, which limited the number of angles you could grab. It was also extremely heavy, and built like a piece of furniture. The model Greg built for Gary was designed for ease of use.

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Deflector\long range sensor dish. Von Braun would be pleased.

The parabolic antennae at the front of the secondary hull was inspired by a photograph of Werner Von Braun which appeared on the cover of life magazine in the late 50′s (Below). Check the dish on the right side of the ship… even the color. It was state of the art, and everyone in America now knew that you needed one of these to fly through space. When people saw the Enterprise for the first time in the mid 60′s, it was apparent that the creators not only had imagination, but that they were paying attention.

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This is the the moon rocket Von Braun designed for the milestone Disney series “Man in Space”.  See the bottle suit plugged into the bottom of the craft? Hot stuff!

“Man in Space” -  http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/02/17/disneys-man-in-space-series/

Bottlesuits – http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/nx-01-unseen-gear-the-apm/

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Art deco influenced this design.

One of the very distinctive touches on the original Enterprise are the subtle art deco influences like this little bit of gingerbread in front of the pennant. You will see this element reaapear at the tail of the pistol phaser. The pennant itself is also extremely art deco. Based on it’s energy and angles, it’s apparent to me that the guy who designed this, probably also designed the show’s title font. Anyone who grew up when Matt did would have to be influenced by art deco’s futuristic lines. The image below shows some prime deco from New York City.

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Ship’s fantail… sort of says it all.

One of the most dynamic parts of any ship is the fantail. The fantail on the Enterprise screams ship of the line, and the engine pylons are the masts on a tall ship. (Below) Fantail of the HMS Surprise. Doesn’t that just give you goosebumps?

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Roddenberry’s correlation of the Enterprise to a ship of the line was not lost on Matt Jefferies. Like all good art directors, he kept his eyes and his ears open.

(below) A view from the rigging.

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And remember… always, always, always…  resist thickening up the masts… er… I mean nacelle pylons.

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Nacelle intercooler.

Matt Jefferies was the flight engineer and top turret gunner on a Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress during WWII. The influence of the B-17 on his design of the 1701 is big, I’m only going to touch on it today, but in a future entry I will go berserk. I bring it up now because we have this great shot (above) of the nacelle intercooler. In fact B-17′s did have intercoolers, but the 1701 intercooler is more likely an outgrowth of the exhaust shroud on the Boeing’s engine. (Below R) Behind the engine cowling you can see the cylindrical exhaust shroud. The shroud collected  and distributed heat to the airplane’ heating system. Where cowling and shroud meet, you will see another very familiar arrangement. The cowl flaps. Hmmmm… what starship has those behind the bussard cowling? Just remove the propeller and add a dome.

Below left –  A flight of B-17′s return from a mission.  These missions flew at 40,000 ft, 50 below zero, and were unpressurized, so stop yer whinin’!

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In a future entry I plan to go into this fascinating connection, it’s influence on an iconic design solution, and the common background that Gene Roddenberry, and Matt Jefferies both shared.


61 Responses to “Rockin’ It Old School”


  1. 1 CessnaDriver
    May 2, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    She IS what a starship should look like.

  2. 2 Lt. Washburn
    May 2, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    All TOS effects shots would be one pass since they had no motion control, correct?

  3. 4 MikeZ
    May 2, 2009 at 6:47 pm

    I´ve always loved the big three.
    - The graceful original version used throughout the series (after being revised twice).
    - The TMP collection of artistic details (I´m still discovering new details on some shots even after all these years)
    - And of course the 6 ft version of Andy´s masterpiece.

  4. 5 Ian Stewart
    May 2, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    Even CBS’ marketing seems to concede that this is and will remain the iconic starship. The JJ-prise will probably resonate with the kiddies (god knows, if I were 8 years old again, I would be begging for the Playmates toy), but the Matt Jefferies original is the one people will still remember in 2066.

    I’d never even thought about art deco influences on the design, but they’re quite obvious now that you point them out. My grandpa was a ground-pounding WWII vet himself, and I think part of the reason Star Trek resonates so deeply with me is because it grew out of the America he grew up in. He loved TOS, but could never quite get into TNG… Perhaps Patrick Stewart’s accent dredged up unpleasant memories of Army hospitals in England.

    I’m eagerly anticipating the B-17 article, since I’m something of a warbird nerd too. In fact, I’d imagine a lot of Trek tech geeks are warbird fans.

  5. 6 Gus
    May 2, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Ah! The classic big E. Although my all time favorite is Next Gen’s, the original is, truly, timeless. A beauty not only for her lines, but also for the concept. A serious departure of what spaceships were untill her.
    I only wish the designers for the new movie would’ve stay a little closer to this marvelous creation.
    Just look at her…

  6. May 2, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    This is still the coolest Sci-Fi ship ever. I love the original and Greg’s model he did for DS9 is beautiful. And in 10 days? I’m impressed. I knew he was da man when it came to buildin’ models but I didn’t know he worked that fast. :)

  7. May 2, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    I’m guessing the Von Braun moonship also served as inpiration for the DY-100. Not only has it got a similar submarine-ish feel including a cockpit on top, but it noticably has a similar arrangement of pods.

    I think one of the great things that the Big E has is that it’s somehow very light on ‘design’. Everything on it has an apparent purpose, and the basic structure is kept to cylinders and a saucer. It’s more ‘engineering’ than ‘design’, if that makes any sense.

    But yeah.. it’s pretty much *the* Star Trek ship, and almost everything that came after was just a variaton of it in one way or another.

  8. 9 CarlG
    May 2, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Beautiful shots of a beautiful ship!

    I love all the incarnations of the Enterprise (especially Mr. Probert’s Enterprise-A, the Gabriel Koerner, and Ryan Chruch designs), but you gotta give respect to the original.

  9. 10 the bluesman
    May 2, 2009 at 8:56 pm

    Doug,

    B-17s and the TOS Connie in the same post..how cool is that.

    The TOS Enterprise is my favorite too. Clean lines, functional and elegant. And I like Matt’s philosophy of having the guts on the inside so you would have to do an EVA to repair the ship.

    I think Matt got this ship right. Even thoguh the design is a concept from 45 years ago, it still looks futuristic.

  10. May 2, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    You have the soul of a poet, Doug. The allusions to sailing ships is always appropriate, given the many references made in TOS to those ships.

    Nice “Surprise” shot. I’ve read the entire “Master and Commander” series, and I was amazed at how much it had in common with Star Trek. Captain Jack Aubrey would feel right at home on Kirk’s ship, I think. You’d have to explain the Head, of course…

  11. May 2, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    Amen.

    The “Earth-Abrams” Enterprise has her own charms, to be sure, and will take her proper place amongside her namesakes on her own terms.

    But the original is the icon.

  12. 13 dougdrexler
    May 2, 2009 at 9:54 pm

    By the way Dwight, Dorth and I are looking forward to seeing the newest Trek tomorrow night at Rod’s “Circle P” screening. Look for something from me on Monday morning!

  13. 14 Angelus Lupus
    May 2, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Some wonderfully different perspectives in those photos. Man, that ship looks beautifully from every angle, and that can’t be said of some that followed. This will always be my favourite Enterprise, followed by (controversially) the C – Yes, the Ambassador Class (made even nicer in it’s refit as the Zhukov)

  14. 15 Jonathan Burke (TrekBBS' Praetor)
    May 2, 2009 at 10:11 pm

    Wow, Doug, just what I wanted to see. What a beauty that design is even today. :)

    The TOS Enterprise is such a classic icon – despite the many masters of design of Trek ships over the years (yourself included of course, Mr. D ;) ) all of the starships in ‘Trek’ owe it all to what Matt Jefferies did back in the 60s. The subtlety and thought that went into developing the E and indeed all of TOS are really something to be admired. I particularly like hearing more about Master Jefferies’s probable influences and his aviation-based perspective.

  15. 16 Richard DeRosa
    May 2, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    She’s still a beautiful lady after all these years. A good design through and through.

  16. 17 mithril
    May 2, 2009 at 11:40 pm

    part of the reason i love the classic design (and loath the picasso-like edselprise of the new movie) is the fact that Jeffries clearly kept in mind the realities of space travel. i’ve had people whine to me about the “lack of suface texture” and how the ship was straight lines and simple shapes. but ot me, thats the only way you could design such a ship. the smooth surface keeps all the parts of the ship on the INTERIOR, where they can be maintained in a shirtsleeve enviroment. little need to spacewalk just to replace some minor part. (imagine if the Discovery from 2001 had been built with a similar asthetic. frank poole would never have been killed by the HAL controlled spacepod, since the databus being replaced could have been done from inside the ship…) and the nice, smooth lines will protect the ship better. surface texture is known in the military as “shot traps”. projectiles (like micro-meteors in space) tend ot ricochet off flat surfaces, and if you have lots of surface texture, like the junk encrusted Imperial star destroyers in Star Wars, those ricochets are going to eventually hit a spot they can punch though. and all those ricochets are going to weaken the hull in the meantime. the nice, smooth hull of the Big-E would take less damage from such hits. and when it is hit, since the stuff inside is usually going to be intact, repairs are just a case of replacing a panel.
    the “simple shapes” would be easy to build and pressurize. lots of swooping curves, recesses, and so on will put lots of stress on the frame of a ship. because each of those points where the shape changes is a weak point in the structure, a place where it is harder to reinforce against the stress of manuvers and so on. probably why the more ‘artisic’ ships from TNG are always worried about their structural integrity field. without it, those flying post-modern sculptures would shatter like glass.
    not to mention the space savings. a simple saucer like the big-E has isn’t wasting volume with those artistic surface textures, swooping curves, and little fidly bits. which means it has more internal space to work with.

    the shapes alos make it easier to construct and repair. ultimately, the big-E is a saucer, two domes, three cylinders, a rhomboid, and a pair of boxes. simple shapes easily built enmass and fitted together. saucer half destroyed? disconnect the neck, put on a new suacer. ships like the enterprise E or voyager (or the NX) have to be practically rebuilt, since so much of thier structure has been “artidtically” intergrated into the main hull of the ship.

    the big-E also looks beleivable. look at real world spacecraft. the shuttle looks liek a plane, sure. but look at the rockets and space capsules we use. cylinders, spheres, and cones dominate. simple shapes. minimal surface texture. modular design. the big-E looks like a ship NASA might actually build if it had the tech. it’s a very utilitarian desing. nothing wasteful in it, everything has a purpose. and yet at the same time, it has a wonderfully beutiful asthetic, pretty much as a result of that utiliarianism.

  17. May 3, 2009 at 12:18 am

    Thanks for sharing those images and thoughts.

    There will never be another ship like the original Enterprise for me. Something that embodies what the future could hold for us while also feels like home for me after all these years.

    People ask me how I can stand to spend hour after hour, year after year studying this one subject without getting completely bored with it. I simply tell them that the beauty of your true love will never diminish no matter how much time you spend gazing at her.

  18. May 3, 2009 at 1:15 am

    Some great points here I hadn’t considered before. Thanks for the article and the photos. :)

    The similarity between the shuttlebay and the fantail of a real sea faring ship is striking, I’m surprised (heh, pun) I’d never noticed that.

  19. May 3, 2009 at 1:18 am

    Really like the design linage notes, always great stuff here :)

  20. 22 David F
    May 3, 2009 at 1:34 am

    Ain’t nothing like the real thing baby!

    Thanks for the tour of the original Enterprise.

    Amazing photos of the Original Original being restored:

    http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=8672

  21. 23 JNG
    May 3, 2009 at 1:49 am

    I’ve been looking at that ship my whole life, but seeing these kinds of photos makes it feel, to me, new again.

    Very interested to see more on the B-17 connection. Hey, look, silver ones instead of O.D.

  22. 24 Douglas Bullard
    May 3, 2009 at 2:16 am

    Interesting comparison. I had the luck to get a ride in a B-17 last weekend (what a blast!), and I got the chance to get up and personal with those engines. Funny, but I kept thinking there was something terribly familiar about that intercooler, just never put it together until reading this.

    You really do get an appreciation of what those guys went through in the war. I was only up for 30-40 minutes, but the roar of the engines was ear-splitting, the plane was drafty (at sea level), you can only imagine what it was like at altitude with the waist gunner positions open, -50F temperatures, etc.

    And, of course, the fact that at the beginning of the war, your tour of duty was 25 missions, the life expectancy of the crew was 19 missions. Took a lot of guts to keep going up.

    BTW, the aircraft I flew in (Liberty Belle) tours the country – http://www.libertyfoundation.org. If it comes your way, spend the $$ and take a ride. You won’t regret it.

    • 25 dougdrexler
      May 3, 2009 at 6:53 pm

      I’m really excited by high interest in the B-17. That incredible machine molded two of the men who would make Star Trek what it was. That will be a weekend article for sure.

  23. May 3, 2009 at 2:17 am

    I can’t wait to hear more about this B-17 design lineage story. I have more than a few warbird models right alongside my Star Trek models, and I look forward to hearing the story straight from the source on the subject matter. I’m even MORE impressed that Greg Jein was able to build this in ten days. It takes me twice that long to build a model from a kit!

  24. 27 Jay
    May 3, 2009 at 2:31 am

    *sigh* So much to say. So much said in those beautiful images. Looking at those great shots of that beautiful, faithful recreation by Mr. Jein & Co., you have no choice but to conclude that the secret ingredient is love. As I like to say, ain’t nothin’ like the real thing, and that ship *is* the Starship Enterprise. Thanks for showing those off, Doug. Those pics really hit the spot – or, as Cleveland Brown might say, those pictures touch me in a way that if my wife touched me that way, I would say “oh yeah, that’s nice”. :)

    Also, I won’t be at all surprised if heaven is art deco when I get there. I am endlessly disappointed that the future still doesn’t look like Fritz Lang’s Metropolis.

  25. 28 Eric Fischer
    May 3, 2009 at 3:15 am

    It was love at first sight for me and the Starship Enterprise, circa 1966. I’ve built at least 50 E AMT/Ertl/Polar Lights kits. The first kit, my dad built and connected the lights and put it under the Christmas tree. When I woke up and went down to check out the presents, I lost my 4 year old mind.
    TV and movie spaceships were either V-2 clones or flying saucers in those days. Even if it had a saucer, the combination of design elements and ideas were quite radical
    My uncle flew as pilot on a B-17 called “Small Change” (he was 5’6″ and his last name was Coyne), did 35 missions from Sept. 1944 to the end. He survived the war only to be killed in a C-46 crash in 1947 returning from Europe. He was a passenger, had he been in the cockpit, he might have survived.

  26. 30 Matt Boardman
    May 3, 2009 at 3:31 am

    How I love this ship! She’s carried us all on so many adventures. There is just no mistaking this beautiful design.

    Love the connection to the B-17! I can’t wait for the entry detailing those connections!

    Thanks so much for the Saturday treat, Doug! :)

  27. 31 Buckaroohawk
    May 3, 2009 at 3:33 am

    I thought I knew everything there was to know about the design of the original USS Enterprise. This article proves that is not the case. I never made the fantail design connection, or the B-17 one either.

    After studying this model for more than 30 years, she still has stuff to teach me. Amazing!

  28. May 3, 2009 at 4:44 am

    Best. Post. Ever.

    The original E is the ship of dreams. I always thought Jein’s model is one of the best recreations ever done. I never knew his team did it in ten days – that is simply mind-boggling. I always knew that he was the modeler’ modeler, but that is simply astounding.

    Thanks so much for that shot of the mounting point. It answers some questions I’ve had clear back to when the episode first aired.

    Thanks Doug.

  29. 33 DeanneM
    May 3, 2009 at 7:08 am

    Wow Doug, art deco, Vaun Braun, B17s…so much cool info. I think I took all of my time on my “In Another Reality” comment today that I’ll spare repeating what everyone here said!

    So, you get to see the new movie before John, huh? Lucky You!!!

  30. 35 Thorsten Wieking
    May 3, 2009 at 9:32 am

    And once again, I learned something new about the TOS-E, got my attention set on another design element and discovered a detail I haven’t seen before. My love and admiration for that design grows with every bit of information.

    Thanks Doug.

    Cheers
    Thorsten

  31. May 3, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    A great collection of pics and insights… she’s a beauty. Is that a pic of the Surprise down in San Diego now? Yeah, it’s a direct relationship there… definitely. Right down to the aft lantern above the gallery…

  32. 37 Jeff Kincaid
    May 3, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    Wow Doug, this one is great. Like you, I feel that THIS is the Enterprise. Greg Jein is..well..a GOD! LOL, OK, so maybe not a god..maybe a superbly talented guy with s heart of dilithium.

    I look forward to your berserker post on the B-17 and the Big E. I am a Fortress Fanatic and feel it to be the best plane of all time. That Jefferies was a flyer on one merely illustrates to me that my adoration and worship of the man is all that more deserved.

    Yeah, and we kinda like you too. LOL

    Peace and Light

    Jeff

  33. May 3, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    I love that ship since my childhood in the 60′s. Trials and Tribble-ations is a favorite episode and it brought back the Original E. She was lovingly photographed. Thanks for this.

  34. 39 Santaman
    May 3, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    Ah, good old 1701, she’s a tall ship for the stars indeed, thanks for showing the model Greg made, its fantastic. :D

    Jefferies knew his job very well indeed. 8)

  35. 40 the bluesman
    May 3, 2009 at 8:08 pm

    Leonardo DaVinci once said “simplicty is the ultimate sophisitication”

    What better descrition of the TOS E?

    I’ve heard people complain over the lack of detail on the TOS E…well there is plenty of detail..just look at the close up shots. Detail should not be confused with greeblied up “stuff”

    And it’s not jsut the ship…the orgianl 12 names of the connies in teh fleet were great too..

    Consitution, Republic, Enterprise, Intrepid, Valiant and others.

  36. 41 DeanneM
    May 3, 2009 at 8:21 pm

    Defiant, dont’ forget Defiant! I love that name and was thrilled to have it used on DS9 (that tough little ship is one of my favs, but don’t let Worf here you call her “little”), then she showed up on ENT…such fun. What a great, timeless design!!

  37. May 3, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    The song, For Me and My Gal just popped into my head…

    My first love. Literally.

    The one, thee only, Ship of (my) Dreams… :D

    Thanks Doug! :)

    PLL,
    deg

    PS. Ut, My Girl just started up now, eh… :D

  38. 43 DeanneM
    May 3, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    Ah, For Me and My Gal…love that song! Now it’s in my head with Gene Kelly and Judy Garland singing. :D

  39. May 3, 2009 at 10:37 pm

    Doug, I feel the same way about the old girl that you do. You never forget your first love. Of all the starship designs out there, none other is as profoundly iconic, none other touches me on such an instinctive emotional level, as this one. Its lines just feel so fundamentally right, because it’s the ship that defined “starship” for me, that defined science fiction for me. (Come to think of it, this ship and its TMP successor are probably the main reasons I love Art Deco. Art Deco must feel right to me because it reminds me of the Enterprise.)

    And thanks for helping me see her in a new way. I never recognized the nautical influence in the fantail.

  40. 45 CarlG
    May 4, 2009 at 2:51 am

    I never really noticed the Art Deco influences on the Enterprise until you pointed them out. Which is odd, cause I’m a total sucker for Deco. :)

    Just out of curiosity, what do you mean by “gingerbread”?

  41. 47 FSL
    May 4, 2009 at 6:53 am

    Simplicity and beauty. Wow

  42. 48 The DC
    May 4, 2009 at 1:57 pm

    My compliment, Mr. Drexler. You cleverly crafted a love letter with a design analysis! Nicely done.

    I too like to see Trek expand, and enjoyed greatly some of the later incarnations of the ship [most notably the refit]. I find it rather…limited when someone describes the old gal as outdated. The thought and detail that went into her would argue otherwise. And the design was contemporary in some artistic touches but very unlike anything prior to her. “Updating” the look to satisfy the Mac Ipod generation may be marketable, but not thoughtful.

    I was particularly impressed with comments made during the production of “Enterprise” regarding how well the sets, costumes and old ship [Defiant, in that case] “held up” when used along side the more contemporary materials during filming. Similar comments were made when DS9 brought those elements into their ‘love letter’ show. Little can compare to that romantic, yet functional line of the 1701. It was well thought out and designed with passion. Honestly, I think that it is often ego that drives redesigns…the effort to remake a world in one’s own image.

    As Trek continues, it does need new fresh looks.

    It does not need to be remade.

    The DC

  43. 49 Scott
    May 5, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    I can see why Gene loved the B-17 so much, I was lucky enough to fly in the last remaining flying B-17s, and it was an unforgettable experience.

  44. 50 Jay
    May 5, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    “Honestly, I think that it is often ego that drives redesigns…the effort to remake a world in one’s own image.”

    Ding ding ding!

  45. 51 Si
    May 6, 2009 at 6:39 am

    I’ve just read everyone’s comments and it’s so endearing to see the level of emotional connection that everyone has to this old girl! A lot of people can’t fathom why if a ship is redesigned in Star Trek and a window is different here, or an engine is slightly different there, WHY everyone would get so upset and geek out about it so much! Bill Shatner himself released a Youtube Blog ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUoaFITdfQ4&feature=channel ) stating that “hey, JJ’s redesign is a bit different but, whatever!” Perhaps we are geeks. Perhaps we do get too hung up on the details… but dang it, I LOVE this ship! Thanks Doug for these wonderful views of her. True starship porn!

  46. 52 Reverend
    May 6, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    So, if Enterprise had not been cancelled and we eventually got to meet “Captain Jefferies”, would I be correct in presuming that someone would have made sure the set decorators included a model of the B-17 in his office? :D

  47. 54 Shik
    May 6, 2009 at 5:57 pm

    Speaking of art deco…a friend of mine lives up in Inwood (around the corner from a well-known, inadvertently-named filthy-sounding intersection) in a building that absolutely reeks of that style. I found a listing for a condo in the building, & while the kitchen & bathroom are far more modern than what he & his wife have in theirs, it still shows the lines of the flats as well as the amazing ocean liner-like main lobby.

  48. May 15, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    Ahhhh. The one and only Enterprise. The first woman (other than my mom) I truly loved. What a treat to see these photos from “Trials and Tribble-ations”… thanks for posting this!

  49. May 20, 2009 at 4:54 pm

    Oh Man!

    I was working some motion control job and had to swing by Image G for some piece of gear and AJ Raitano (A camera assistant often there) and I saw these ships shortly after they were filmed. Really really nice models and the detail in the shuttlebay of the K7 station. I liked the little sign that said “Now Go home.”

    Wonderful!

  50. June 3, 2009 at 7:12 am

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH… AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH…
    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH…

    My gal! Ne’er the day will come I get tired of casting me gaze upon her beauty!

    No, A, B, C, D, or E, just TOS E (or TOS.5 E).

    Thanks, Doug!

    Now more. Yes, please.

    LLP,
    deg

    PS. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH…………..

  51. June 3, 2009 at 7:14 am

    HAHAHA, reading down, too funny, mine and Scott’s reactions are just about the same. Figures, huh Scott? ;)

    PLL,
    deg

  52. 60 spatula
    October 21, 2009 at 1:23 pm

    Looks so much better than the JJ-prise. The angles are perfect, and everything has a reason to be there.

    No unnecessary curves, fins, exposed machinery. It’s like a submarine in space. But it conveys more character than any other ship in scifi ever.


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