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Judge: Family’s $80 Million Gold Coin Collection Belongs to Uncle Sam

Judge: Langboard Familys $80 Million Double Eagle Gold Coins Belong to Government | Franklin Delano Roosevelt

A 'Double Eagle' gold twenty dollar coin is displayed above a catalogue picture showing the reverse side of the coin at Goldsmith's Hall on March 2, 2012 in London, England. (Photo: Getty Images)

A judge has ruled that ten rare gold coins worth roughly $80 million belong to the U.S. government, not the family that possessed them, according to ABC News.

In 2003 Joan Langbord and two other family members opened a safety deposit box that belonged to Langbord’s father, Philadelphia coin dealer Israel Switt, and found the valuable collection.  When they asked the Philadelphia Mint to authenticate the find, the coins were apparently seized without compensation and taken to Fort Knox.

The 1933 Saint-Gaudens double eagle is “one of the most sought-after rarities in history,” according to Courthouse News.  Originally valued at $20 each, one owned by King Farouk of Egypt reportedly sold for as much as $7.5 million at a Sotheby’s auction in 2002.

The Langbords unsuccessfully sued the government in 2011, alleging that the coins are rightfully theirs, and now they have lost the appeal.

Jacqueline Romero, assistant U.S. attorney in Philadelphia, explained that the coins legally belonged to the government after Franklin Delano Roosevelt ordered citizens to exchange their gold for cash in an effort to keep the banks afloat during the Great Depression.

“Those coins were all in a vault and were supposed to be melted,” she asserted.

Newsy contributes, including an explanation of FDR’s policy:

 

The family maintains that in another seizure of the valuable coin, the government split the proceeds with the original owner after it sold for $7.59 million in 2002, and that the coins escaped the Mint legitimately through a “window of opportunity” between March 15 and April 5, 1933, the Huffington Post relates.

However, U.S. District Judge Legrome Davis Jr. wrote in his decision: “The Mint meticulously tracked the ’33 Double Eagles, and the records show that no such transaction occurred…What’s more, this absence of a paper trail speaks to criminal intent. If whoever took or exchanged the coins thought he was doing no wrong, we would expect to see some sort of documentation reflecting the transaction, especially considering how carefully and methodically the Mint accounted for the ’33 Double Eagles.”

“Nobody witnessed the disappearance of the 10 coins, but the jury could – and did – properly infer criminal intent,” Davis added.

Barry Berke, the family’s attorney, concluded for ABCNews.com: “This is a case that raises many novel legal questions, including the limits on the government’s power to confiscate property.”

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  • LibertyMindedAboveAllElse
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:48pm

    This gold is not stolen gold, or robbed from a bank….The government said “Hey our bank buddies are failing so we need all the people who own gold to sell it to us at a % of what its really worth”

    This should be an eye opener for anyone “Investing” in gold. This is not the first time the government has stolen gold from its people in our nations history and it wont be the last. Don’t invest in gold.

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    • 13th Imam
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:07pm

      The moral of the story. Never, never, never tell the government anything.

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    • Zombee
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:26pm

      Invest in Firearms and Ammunition. They will be worth their weight in gold.

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    • v15
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:45pm

      The federal government keeps pushing and pushing by violating the Constitution, and by making up laws as they go along. If there coins were stolen from the government, fine, but I seriously doubt that’s the case.

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    • watersRpeople
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:49pm

      Apparently the government ‘meticulously’ tracked the paper-work, and I imagine they meticulously track it about as well as they do veteran’s military records when they say a fire destroyed a building that had your records in it.

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    • PossumStu
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:54pm

      I agree with 13th Imam. Never tell the government anything, and never talk to police without a lawyer.

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    • Sirfoldallot
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:02pm

      This Gov. has a king , Obama & u all r it’s subjects so bow & kiss ur A– good bye.

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    • cmonnow
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:28pm

      For those who blame Obama for this decision, take a look at who nominated the Judge – “On January 23, 2002, Davis was nominated by President George W. Bush to a seat on the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania vacated by Edmund V. Ludwig. Davis was confirmed by the United States Senate on April 18, 2002, and received commission on April 23, 2002.”

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    • BS61
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:32pm

      Glenn will be very concerned!

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    • fuzzy20841
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:45pm

      Of course the Feds will confiscate it. When we are careening toward bankruptcy any asset the Feds can lay there hands on is fair game! We are also in the era of multi-million dollar fines. Just a little redistribution of wealth! After all why should anyone have an 80 million dollar asset?

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    • SolitudeBliss
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:49pm

      Don’t bleeping tell anyone you have gold. Dug. Ph.Uk the Govt. when it comes to your property.

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 11:06pm

      @zombee That is, until the Government confiscates that kind of property also.

      The Untold Story of Gun Confiscation After Katrina
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

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    • Sully9378
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 11:09pm

      to cmonnow: repubican nominated or demicrap nominated I DON’T CARE. Our government is a joke! They steal power where they can because we let them! THEY STOLE FROM ME AND MY BUSINESS EARLY THIS YEAR. Granted it was no 80 milion dollars but enough to take food off of my kids table for a short time. I don’t know about you guys, but I am fed up with this BS. And I doubt Romney will be any help. Sorry Glen Beck, Romney is just another pollutician who is out for something. I DON’T TRUST ANY OF THEM!!!!!

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    • colt1860
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 11:18pm

      In September of 2011, Romney participated in the TEA Party debate and was asked about the federal reserve.

      Mitt Romney said, “…But at the same time, we recognize that we need to have a Fed. Why – why do I say that? Because if we don’t have a Fed, who’s going to run the currency? Congress? I’m not in favor of that. I’d rather have an agency that is being overseen rather than have the United States Congress try and manage our currency.”

      US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, “CONGRESS shall have Power To… borrow money on the credit OF THE UNITED STATES… coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures.”

      Section 10, “No State shall… coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts…”

      “Banking was conceived in iniquity and born in sin. Bankers own the Earth. Take it away from them but leave them the power to create money, and, with the flick of a pen, they will create enough money to buy it back again. Take this great power away from them and all great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for then this would be a better and happier world to live in. But, if you want to continue to be the slave of the bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, then let the bankers continue to create money and control credit.” – Sir Josiah Stamp, President, Bank of England (2nd richest man in England)

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    • snufy
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 11:32pm

      The Bible says that there will come a time when gold and silver will be worthless, and people will throw it into the street.
      Ok, suppose you have a gold bar under your bed. Then, tell me what good it is when money is worthless. Who is going to buy it, and with what…

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 11:44pm

      If the coins are worth 80 million, will the government sell them at that value or melt them down for the current value???

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    • Fatheroftwo
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:03am

      It was by Executive order that FDR required all people who owned Gold Coin and Gold Certificates to turn them in and this was the beginning of the end for the other branches of the Government by allowing that order to stand as law instead of challenging it! The Executive order only applies to the Executive Branch and does NOT have the force of law any where else! The Courts are cutting their own throats by allowing this to stand!

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    • Gorp
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:59am

      And the government wonders why We The People don’t trust them or like them.

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    • SoiledDove
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 1:38am

      Just so everyone is clear– This was a case about theft of the coins. The coins should have been at the mint. There is no record of a transfer to the family. Yet the family had them. This speaks to criminal intent. The point is that in all likelihood, these coins were stolen from the mint.

      PS–you all REALLY need to go to a source other than The Blaze to get your news. You are getting incredibly watered down and inaccurate news stories.

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    • Polwatcher
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:09am

      Now the coins will wind up in someone else’s safety deposit box.

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    • seanscythe
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:17am

      China and Russia are requiring us to fork over every ounce of gold the government can get their hands on. Why you think they are buying it all up.

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    • 000degrees
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:22am

      Too bad the gov’t couldn’t “meticulously” track weapons going to mexican outlaws……

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    • AZindependent
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:30am

      Guess “possession” isn’t 99% of the law. Maybe the family will get an $80 million dollar income tax credit based on the value of the coins? Just kidding of course. Those coins should have been silently sold off to wealthy coin collectors.

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    • realitysucks
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 8:05am

      Soilddove – You need to use logic instead of just believing the government. You say there is no record of a transfer to the family so it must be theft. And the judge references how great the record keeping was and since there is no transfer record it must be theft. So can either you or the judge explain to me how, with such outstanding record keeping, there apparently is no record of them being missing – at least not one mentioned in the article?

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    • TheValley
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:26am

      Soiledlove, you really need to get an education, mind numbed government lackeys went out of vogue years ago.
      The family made the mistake of turning them over, cause there is no way in hell those coins would leave my possession without a huge sacrifice of life on the part of the agents unlucky enough to be tasked with recovering them.

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    • tmdk421
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:30am

      giving them to the government was their mistake, there are plenty of private owned coin grading companies that would have authenticated them and sent them back.

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    • turkey13
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:36am

      Now everyone knows why we have black market sales. These people had a dumb lawyer that was probably working for the treasury. Any first year lawyer would have pointed out that they were no reports of a theft in 1933 when all thee gold was taken in and melted. The only way these people gots the coins was for about 2.5 hrs. when the mint opened and then got the call from the president to stop all sales. This man traded $20.00 gold coins for the newer and it was leagal for coins to be sold at the mint.

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    • BSdetector
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:40am

      “asked the Philadelphia Mint to authenticate the coins”

      Authenticate it they did! They then decided it was worth too much money to give to a private citizen and kept it instead.

      Asking the government for ANYTHING is a double edged sword, which is why the Founders designed the government to be as weak as possible while still able to holding the country together…

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    • Individualism
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:48am

      if you invest in gold in the future you may have to kill some cueballs to keep it.

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    • cloudsofwar
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 10:00am

      “LET ME BE CLEAR” there’s room in my safety deposit box for those coins. yes those coins were stolen……by the BIG GOV. Obama must go. ROMNEY 2012

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    • Copo
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 10:06am

      Don’t give in to the government, or else you will invest in nothing, not land nor gold.

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    • WardMD
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 11:23am

      Sound FAMILIAR…

      Hey, our AUTO INDUSTRY is FAILING – we’re going to SCREW the Bond Holders, BUY GM with Tax Dollars, and GIVE it to the Unions!
      -Barack Hussein Obama

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    • C. Schwehr
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 11:25am

      Warning to anyone with precious metals: DON’T TELL ANYONE YOU HAVE IT!

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    • copakeman
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 11:25am

      that is very true, although this is an expensive way to learn that lesson. thhey should have gone to brazil (no extradition) and sold the coins for a quick 40 milliion. a win-win for honest people.
      i wonder where those coins really are right now ? fdr we love you !!!

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    • glassbeadlady
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:05pm

      With this gov. even our lives are not our own. Wake up your friends and if your not voting for Mitt because he is a mormon, you are willing to turn your life savings and your life to government.

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    • airportengineer
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:27pm

      Waterspeople: I totally agree with ya on the “Fire” thing! When my father, a WWII vet, passed away, I asked them for several records of his service. Their response: We lost many files during a FIRE!

      I was so pissed off. My dad nearly died on Normandy Beach, and these A$$wipes can’t confirm which battles he served but could tell me that he served his time, went home, and then Re-Enrolled in Service after a couple months back home (which I never knew). If they had that, why didn’t they have the other information?? It seemed ridiculous that information was saved in the “Fire”!

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    • Amarath01
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:30pm

      All your goldz R belong to us.

      Also the FBI know knows where you are every moment of every day .. or at least hopes to.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:32pm

      Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s. Government minted coins do actually belong to the government and this is the reason why they cannot be copied, defaced or destroyed by private persons. This coinage and bills are used for transactions public and private, but the government can dictate by law what coins or cash will be accepted or nullified. If you have old cash from way back in the day, even 20 years old, you would be best served to translate it into silver…not gold. But update it atleast with currency of the time if your going to hold it, its better to keep only a few thousand dollars on hand for emergencies…ie ATMS won’t work, power outages etc. Gold drives too many people crazy esp the Gooberment.

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    • kployhar
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:35pm

      I have said it before, and will say it again. There is a reason the military has new powers to police the people. I am in the military, and believe that no matter the outcome of the next election, power will be seized by the federal government. None of my friends think it is possible, but they would not believe the feds could confiscate personal wealth. You wait and see, and everyone who is buying guns is right, that will be what you need in the coming months.

      Wounded Veteran who is concerned!

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:51pm

      The theft is being committed by the government, again.

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    • U.N.hater
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 1:13pm

      And you think you can vote all this away lmao… Their not come’ing for everybody’s stuff all at once just one at a time soon a few at a time. It will grow as people sit back and watch. How much of other people’s stuff do they take before you stand up?

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    • Evileye
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:49pm

      It was supposed to be melted down.
      Do you think the Government will melt a $80,000000.00
      Coin down to a $1600.00 Once of Gold.

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    • Freelyn
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:50pm

      Hear, Hear! You can’t eat gold. If you want to invest in something that will be priceless after a major economic collapse, invest in durable goods, long term food stuffs, and weapons and ammunition. The important thing will be being able to protect what you own after the looters are done looting us all via the looting Progressive Government, they’ll come directly for your property next.

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    • smokie
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:50pm

      Marauders! There is not other word for the current government.

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    • Female
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:09pm

      Gold, not a very good commodity in a cashless society, and not something I would want to invest in….

      Coffee, cigarettes/tobacco, grain, alcohol, and anitbiotics

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    • Unclebuck7
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:18pm

      When you find a good thing, keep your mouth shut!

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    • bamanana
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 4:19pm

      We have not lived in a free society in over 150yrs. We all need to be aware that we have not been in charge & left our bidding to ruthless liars & thieves namely us congressmen & senators

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    • 762x51
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:01pm

      Actually, the government forced people to trade them gold for worthless Federal Reserve Notes.

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    • RAS0503
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:52pm

      I wonder whose “pocket” these coins will enf up in…

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    • Leadthemtothelight
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:05pm

      Never steal……The government hates competition. How about the billion dollar facial recognition project being done by the FBI….It’s game over people the government has limitless power now. They will continue to tell us it’s all for homeland security…. freedom and liberty is an archaic ideal of the past…….government tyrrany and oppression are here to stay.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:46pm

      @13th Imam
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:07pm

      The moral of the story. Never, never, never tell the government anything
      ***
      Unfortunately, their eyes and ears are everywhere today and if you don’t tell someone something online or by cell phone both which they can trace back to you, to paraphrased my long deceased Uncle’s favorite poem: “The Drones’ll (Goblins’ll) Get You if You Don’t Watch Out!”

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:53pm

      You think I could pass up an opportunity to comment on this one ???? lol

      Not a chance in H#!!.

      In 1933 the United States declared Bankruptcy and had to surrender collateral to the Federal Reserve PRIVATE BANK for a breach of contract (The Federal Reserve Act.)

      The first thing our “government” surrendered was their gold reserves.

      It was not enough to absolve the debt.

      They then made the U.S.Citizens turn in their gold !!!!!!

      It was Not enough !!!!!

      They then pledged our Gov’t branches, land and PEOPLE as collateral !!!!!

      Your government pledged that you would pay a % of your lifetime earnings for that debt.

      Birth Certificates became law in all states that year.

      Social Security came out in 1936. This is a Bond (written evidence of debt) for the creditors to hold (This S.S. card does not belong to you).
      They gave you (thier livestock) a number so they could track you and garnish your wages.

      In 1944 at the bretton woods agreement the lien on the bankrupt U.S. was transfered to the IMF and World Bank.

      These two financial institutions created the United Nations the following year.

      They have been the trustee of the bankruptcy. This explains their monumental influence over our Sovereignty.

      In 1992 (The same year the UN’s Agenda 21 was introduced) Bush signed executive order #12803
      Infrastructure Privatization. AMERICA FOR SALE !!!!!!!! or LONG TERM LEASE !!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlCs7u1ihws

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    • mrkeys1962
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 6:54pm

      Of course with the stupidity of the government they, rather than get a whopping amount of money through taxes when these coins are sold, instead just steal the coins. The gold that these coins contain could not be worth more than a few thousand dollars. It’s the rarity of the coin that makes it worth so much. Good job Uncle Sam. Once again, the demonstration of how utterly devoid our government is of any sign of intelligence is made utterly obvious by this example.

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    • ProbIemSoIver
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 7:05pm

      Executive Order 12803:
      http://rense.com/general86/nomis.htm

      The Lien:
      http://www.barefootsworld.net/usfraud.html

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    • lefty5005
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 8:20pm

      They can take your gold, guns, house, money and your life and there is absolutely nothing we can do about…or can we? How often has the term, “for the good of the country” been used fraudulently.
      What will the police do?
      What will the military or national guard do?
      What will the Federal agents do?
      What about the CIA, FBI, ICE, DEA, NSA and IRS do “for the good of the country?
      Perhaps it is all a facade and absolutely nothing will happen but the pot is definitely being stirred.

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    • DennisHand
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 8:37pm

      No, invest in gold and silver. Its the only thing that will hold value as they devalue the dollar. Insure it with guns and ammo.

      Consider not buying US coins, maybe Krugerrands or bullion. You could also go so far as to store in a private vault company overseas.

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    • darrelljr
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 8:52pm

      Juries are becoming more dangerous than the gov- really sad.

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    • stevew95
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:53pm

      Another reason not to buy U.S. Gold Coins. I don’t think our dictator and chief can recall Canadian or Australian gold coins. Although, give them an inch and they will take it all.

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    • M1A2_Tanker
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 11:24pm

      PossumStu
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:54pm
      “I agree with 13th Imam. Never tell the government anything, and never talk to police without a lawyer.”

      http://www.tuccille.com/blog/2008/07/eight-reasons-even-innocent-shouldnt.html

      Every Red-Blooded American should watch this video!!!!

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    • old white guy
      Posted on September 10, 2012 at 5:39am

      i trust all americans can see where the government is headed. you didn’t build that becomes you don’t own that.

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    • kadster01
      Posted on September 10, 2012 at 7:43am

      This is why I do not trust any of the enticements to invest in gold. If it has been confiscated by the government in the past, it most certainly will be again, and will be worthless no matter how much one has amassed. And if you think that will only apply to bullion as in the past, you are not in touch with reality.

      We have a president who is summarily dismantling our Constitution and our rights. There will soon be little left aside from what you can beg, borrow, or steal. True value will be in services and necessities, like food, shelter, and clothing. “Savings” will be what is required to survive from one day to the next. The future will be uncertain. If you think it cannot happen here (and no one ever has thought it could), think again.

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    • Crazycatlady
      Posted on September 10, 2012 at 1:41pm

      I recently met with a financial planner, the usual questions asked about gold, silver, and real property. He said if the presumed crash occurs, the most valuale trade item will be bullets. Secondly would be food, but bullets would be needed to protect or acquire food. The government recently made an order for nearly 750 million bullets for Dept. Of Homeland Security, the IRS, NOAA, Social Security, and other agencies you would think were not armed.

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    • PAPRHP108
      Posted on September 10, 2012 at 2:41pm

      Leave it to the government to steal from its citizens, whether now or back in 1933, that was also stealing from its citizens, oh and who did that, a darn democrat. As Dave Ramsey would say; Why invest on Gold, when in fact the government could take it away, and you would not be able to trade for anything with it. Invest on things that when all goes to you know where, people need. Collect things people will need, that’s how you could survive, by trading (Food, Water, Clothes, Utensils, TP, paper and pencils, etc…) Is not bad to have gold, but it has happened before and will continue (Government take outs). Make sure you have food, water sources, rations saved, and things you can trade, that’s the key, not Gold.

      Also I agree with COLT1860 the constitution gives Congress the power to regulate and manage our money, so why we need the FED?, all they do is create more and more debt, and slowly but surely bankrupt the country.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on September 10, 2012 at 3:46pm

      @Female

      You beat me to it. Cigs, coffe, alcohol and anti-biotics will be the currency when the house of cards collapses.

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    • WATER-THE-TREE
      Posted on September 11, 2012 at 5:43pm

      Once upon a time, there was a non-conforming sparrow who decided not to
      fly south for the winter. However, soon after the weather turned cold,
      the sparrow changed his mind and reluctantly started to fly south.
      After a short time, ice began to form his on his wings and he fell to
      earth in a barnyard almost frozen. A cow passed by and crapped on this
      little bird and the sparrow thought it was the end, but the manure
      warmed him and defrosted his wings. Warm and happy the little sparrow
      began to sing. Just then, a large Tom cat came by and hearing the
      chirping investigated the sounds. As Old Tom cleared away the manure,
      he found the chirping bird and promptly ate him.

      There are three morals to this story:

      1) Everyone who ***** on you is not necessarily your enemy.

      2) Everyone who gets you out of $%^&* is not necessarily your
      friend.

      3) If you are warm and happy in a pile of $%^&*, keep your mouth
      shut. Rule 3 applys to this story

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    • WATER-THE-TREE
      Posted on September 11, 2012 at 5:58pm

      FREELYN….. They will just confiscate that too!!! The only thing that they cannot take from you is God, better invest in Him!

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  • kalli
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:42pm

    Government theft at its best! We do live under tyranny apparently.

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    • betsyyoung
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:04pm

      This is government theft!!!!!! Despicable!

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    • CatB
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:45pm

      Right on both counts! These government leaches could have gotten taxes on the proceeds when these coins were sold .. but that isn’t enough for them — they don’t want a cut of what you have … THEY WANT IT ALL!

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    • Lotus503
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 10:47pm

      And it all started with an unconstitutional executive order by FDR that was never challenged.

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    • IOWAGIR
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:45am

      Well said CatB. Wonder how long it will take for people to finaly revolt and fight the crooked gov. The gov. seems to be preparing for this. Shouldn’t we?

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  • JustPeachy
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:40pm

    Wrong is wrong and I agree with phrogdriver–the judge enforced an unconstitutional and unjust law. We all know what the GOV will do with the money anyway–SPEND IT! Anyone think they’ll invest it somehow for America’s good or even use it to help pay of some of the DEBT it has incurred?!?

    Yeah, fat chance.

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  • Max jones
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:40pm

    Gun confiscation to start in October. Deadly force threatened. Fema camps manned and provisioned.
    sorry bout the gold, but we got bigger fish.

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    • Magyar
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:55pm

      Sources?

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    • Gremlin1974
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:07pm

      Not that I would put it past them to try in his second term, but which of the voices told you about this?

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    • PeteOH
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:20pm

      Part 1 – Sources – Copied

      Concerning the Blair-Holt proposed legislation: Senate Bill SB-2099 will require us to put on our 2009 1040 federal tax form all guns that you have or own. It may require fingerprints and a tax of $50 per gun.

      In Nov, our lying president promised he was not going after our 2nd Amendment rights. This bill was introduced Feb. 24. The bill will become public knowledge 30 days after it is voted into law. This is an amendment to the Internal Revenue Act of 1986. This means the Finance Committee can pass this without the Senate voting on it at all. You know who to call; I strongly suggest you do. Please send a copy of this e-mail to every gun owner you know.

      http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text (I’ve verified that this site exists. Click on the link and examine for yourself!) Congress is now starting on the firearms confiscation bill. If it passes, gun owners will become criminals if you don’t fully comply. It has started. Very Important for you to be aware of a new bill HR 45 introduced into the House. It’s the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sale Act of 2009. Even gun shop owners didn’t know about this because the government is trying to fly it under the radar. To find out about this – go to any government website and type in HR 45 or Google HR 45 Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009. You will get all the information.

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    • freightliner1160
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:26pm

      Alex Jones. The eating of gold covered babies guy…

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    • PeteOH
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:30pm

      Part 2

      Basically this would make it illegal to own a firearm – any rifle with a clip or ANY pistol unless: It is registered -You are fingerprinted -You supply a Driver’s License -You supply yourSS # -You will submit to a physical & mental evaluation any time of their choosing -Each update change or ownership through private or public sale must be reported and costs $25 – Failure to do so you automatically lose the right to own a firearm and are subject up to a year in jail. -There is a child provision clause on page 16 section 305 stating a child-access provision. Gun must be locked & inaccessible to any child under 18.

      They would have the right to come & inspect that you are storing your gun safely away from accessibility to children and fine is punishable for up to 5 yrs. in prison. If you think this is a joke – go to the website & take your pick of many options to read this. It is long & lengthy. But, more & more people are becoming aware of this. Pass the word. Any hunters in your family pass this along. This is just a “termite” approach to complete confiscation of guns & disarming of our society to the point we have no defense – chip away a little here and there until the goal is accomplished before anyone realizes. Act on this whether you own a gun or not. If you take my gun, only the criminals will have one to use against me. HR 45 only makes me/us less safe.

      http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.45:

      http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/s

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    • PeteOH
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:32pm

      Part 3 of 3

      http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-45

      Please.. copy and send this out to EVERYONE in the USA , whether you support the Right to Bear Arms or not. YOUR rights are next. Government is taking away our right to choose, as well as the right to defend ourselves from intruders.

      CALL YOUR SENATOR

      OBAMA LIES!

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    • Guitarcarl
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:41pm

      ludicrous! Koolaid Drinker.

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    • babylonvi
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:49pm

      H.R. 45 died in committee prior to Republicans taking the House of Representatives back. But if they get it back or Barry makes another executive order, we will have a problem. Stay alert, the thing we have to watch for FIRST it the UN Small Ar,s Treaty as this is MUCH more dangerous to gun owners.

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    • macpappy
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 11:59am

      Great, thats right before the Mayan calender ends and all the world with it. So, now we have to contend with a Civil War over our guns, The end of the world, and the absolute fear that it is possible that Obama wins a second term?
      I know there was a “Greatest Generation” and God bless them, but if we make it through all this we will need some recognition, by God.
      Of course you could be full of it, and we will all still have our guns and ammo in January of the year Forever.

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    • BloodSweatandTears
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 1:23pm

      Ditto.

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    • johnpaulkuchtajr
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:09pm

      Hey Magyar,

      Do you think that YOUR federal government bought 1.3 BILLION rounds of ammo this year just to sit and gaze at the stacks?

      There’s a Kenyan in the White House who has dreams of a “Civilian National Security Force” (Obama July 2008); however, you’re doubting what the government intends to do?

      Pull a full size rice colander from out of the kitchen cabinet, cover with several layer of Alcoa wrap, extend the legs with more foil to form antennas and pray that you get better reception.

      Currently, the “gubbamint” is transmitting, but you’re not receiving, lad! Tighten-up!

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  • emty44
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:38pm

    the confiscation in ’33 was an unconstitutional money and power grab. We are learning more and more about what went on back then in our government. The government stole from private citizens to pay for a war, instead of raising funds the right way. At least the war itself was declared the right way.

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    • Max jones
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:41pm

      Same old song…..

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    • Inlightofthings
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:04pm

      Bondholders of GM comes to mind…

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    • taxpro4u03
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:24pm

      Warren Delano, Jr.: chief of Russell and Co. in Canton; grandfather of U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. — Franklin D. Roosevelt’s fortune was INHERITED from his maternal grandfather Warren Delano. In 1830 he was a senior partner of Russell & Company. It was their merchant fleet which carried Sassoon’s opium to China and returned with tea. Warren Delano moved to Newburgh, NY. In 1851 his daughter Sara Married a well born neighbor, James Roosevelt – the father of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. — Warren Delano ran a front company which can also be traced back to the Rothschilds – who, act as fiduciaries for the CROWN — who, act as fiduciaries for the Vatican. It’s all there for anyone willing to sort thru the ‘crud’ to get to the root of…… ‘colonialism’ under the guise of Biblical ‘new covenant.’ ‘Stewardship’ of the earth does NOT mean ‘ownership.’ THIS is where the bastardization of God’s word strays….

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  • All Pro
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:38pm

    Well let’s start with the obvious. FDR’s EO was illegal. This is what happens when people don’t know the constitution and push back against the federal government. One more time for the record, the coins in privet possession NEVER belonged to the government.

    And for those of you that have never read the US constitution, that would be most of you,

    Article 1 – The Legislative Branch
    Section 10 – Powers Prohibited of States
    No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.
    EO’s do not over ride the US constitution. If they did the country would be a dictatorship.

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    • taxpro4u03
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 8:53pm

      Article 1 – The Legislative Branch
      Section 10 – Powers Prohibited of States
      No ** State ** shall…. ———- {the Fed is a Corp, and Corps can do what they want, so long as they don’t trespass upon the RIGHTS of natural Americans…}
      Makes sense da me. Be advised you are making reference to the Constitution FOR the REPUBLIC of the united States of America (Constitution of 1791 was suspended UNLAWFULLY with Lincoln’s General Orders 100, still in effect today) — the SECOND Organic Acts of 1871/74 involves the writing of the CORPORATE Constitution, which is *nearly* a facsimile of the Republic’s Constitution. They AIN’T the same animals, nor do they function the same…., though they DO co-exist – thus the ‘illusion.’
      I’m also corn-fused as to **why,** if ‘ignorance of the LAW is no excuse’ and virtually getting out of bed involves some aspect of ‘law,’ — isn’t it being TAUGHT in the ‘publik skools?’ Why is the *BAR* functioning as a UNION shop? WHERE is it DOMICILED? What does BAR stand for? IS the ABA a ‘subsidiary??’ The answer to that is a source of great enlightenment in and of itself… {When one understands *why* it was prohibited for SLAVES to be taught to read and write, it’ll be readily understood.} Indoctrination is NOT the same as education!

      “Gentlemen, we can call a lamb’s tail a leg, and agree that he has 5 legs; however, his tail is NOT a leg, but a tail.” ~A. Lincoln ** TRUTH ** IS, or it is not…. Like ‘maji

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    • jimmymac1
      Posted on September 10, 2012 at 7:41pm

      All Pro you got that right. And to Captain George the reason the gubment prints the money is because it is backed by the gubment so that all will take it. When you are paid with it it is yours to be exchanged for goods and services up to its value.
      As far as the gun control I sent a letter to my reps in the crappy state of Ca and was told by Feinstein thanks for the letter but since she disagreeed with my position she would do it her way I guess that tells you all who is working for who.
      Time for a real Tea Party

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  • www.TopTheNews.com
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:37pm

    The writing is on the wall. Our country is broke.

    When you think of a dollar, think about a snowball rolling down a hill and gaining steam…

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  • noslave
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:36pm

    it would be like obama getting 4 more yrs,decideing as dictator to outlaw private ownership of guns???im sure roosevelt siphoned off a few gold coins for his family and friends,thats where obama got the idea of re-distribution of wealth??like pelosi,reid etc.made a killing with insider tradeing, i wonder how many of democrats made out like bandits through the confiscation of peoples gold??

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    • cmonnow
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:31pm

      “On January 23, 2002, Davis was nominated by President George W. Bush to a seat on the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania vacated by Edmund V. Ludwig. Davis was confirmed by the United States Senate on April 18, 2002, and received commission on April 23, 2002.”

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  • ExSophus
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:36pm

    Since when do US juries make decisions based on INFERRING someone’s guilt, rather than having it proven beyond a reasonable doubt? I sincerely hope this was merely ill-considered wording in the judge’s statement.
    ["...the jury could – and did – properly infer criminal intent,” (Judge) Davis added.]

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    • sfrich
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:01am

      Lawyer here. Juries often have to infer intent because the accused rarely says “I intended to do x.” Many crimes require the accused to have the intent to do something. For example, first degree murder requires that the accused had to have the intent to kill the deceased. Intent is something that exists in the mind and the only way a jury can usually decide whether the accused had the intent to kill is to infer it from the actions of the accused. So if someone shoots a person 10 times but says he didn’t intend to kill, the jury can probably infer that he did indeed intend to kill based on the number of shots.

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  • RightInSoManyWays
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:33pm

    One more freedom lost. This is the reason for the 2nd amendment…I’d say more but don’t feel like getting a visit from the Nazi’s that run this country.

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  • right-wing-waco
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:33pm

    If Obummer is re-elected, how long will it be before he calls for the collection of all gold coins and bullion? He thinks he is FDR and will do te same things.

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    • cmonnow
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:26pm

      You blame Obama for this ?? check the wiki on the Judge, my friend – “On January 23, 2002, Davis was nominated by President George W. Bush to a seat on the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania vacated by Edmund V. Ludwig. Davis was confirmed by the United States Senate on April 18, 2002, and received commission on April 23, 2002.”

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    • Zaggynuts
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 12:14am

      Mr. dumbshit liberal:
      Obama is not being blamed for this, the person posting made a prediction.

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    • Ohello
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 2:04am

      Doesn’t matter who appoints a judge. They all work off precedence instead of principle. If the precedence violates the principle enough times the principle gets overruled. We can thank our elite institutions for training our lawyers rule by precedence and not principle It is the reason the Constitution is an ineffective legal instrument. If people risked the penalty of death for treason for subverting it, It might have retained its power for longer than 150 years.

      As it is, only it will only gain its value once people know that life is lost when it is subverted.
      Communism kills, Democrats are communist. 356,000 babies killed each year for the convenience of sexual impropriety and for the convenience of the state. Euthanasia and reeducation (death) camps are not far into the future. Nazi equivalents arrive on our shores soon.

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    • chucksue351
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 8:59am

      at some point the people must just ignore the government and call them on the carpet, kind of calling the king who had no clothes on

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    • NOTAMUSHROOM
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:00am

      @Ohello
      Please stop trying to reason with the condescending dipstick “cmonnow” above. I was having fun counting how many times that @sshat was blaming Bush. :-)

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    • 1kingforall
      Posted on September 10, 2012 at 12:24pm

      Right-on spot !
      The real fact is that we are a country of law’s given to us by law giver’s , Who make those law’s work for them ! And very soon the people are going to find it out because LAW’S ok , But NO JUSTICE WHAT SO EVER,and then it will be on for sure !

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  • RougeFastFingers
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:32pm

    It seems to escape a lot of people here that what FDR did was ILLEAGAL, the gov had no right to seize and destroy the coins, it was another liberal hair brained sceme of the new deal.

    Its simply compounded now, the gov thinks it owns all within its borders, and ‘lets’ us use things from time to time.

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    • taxpro4u03
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:10pm

      It wasn’t ‘illegal.’ It WAS….. ‘unlawful.’ BIG difference :-)

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  • eramthgin
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:30pm

    Police State! The govenment will take these coins and they will vanish. Or they will sell them and steal the money.

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  • GlennaBeckski
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:30pm

    They need Anna Nicole Smith’s attorney.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:29pm

    In section 2 (B) of the law those coins should have been exempt from seizure by the government.

    http://www.the-privateer.com/1933-gold-confiscation.html

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    • cmonnow
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:31pm

      hard to blame Obama when Bush put this guy on the bench.. “On January 23, 2002, Davis was nominated by President George W. Bush to a seat on the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania vacated by Edmund V. Ludwig. Davis was confirmed by the United States Senate on April 18, 2002, and received commission on April 23, 2002.”

       
    • booger71
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:37am

      The suit was lead by the current justice dept(run by Holder), not this judge. It should have never been brought before him.

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  • Mr.Fitnah
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:29pm

    Proud to be an american.
    Which way to the border.

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  • Shasta
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:25pm

    More gold for Soros and OBlamo for after they destroy this country’s economic system and riots rule the streets. And anyone who thinks that this gold, or any government gold is in Ft. Knox, think again.

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    • pissantno.10
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:53pm

      will if those coins whent to ft knox it would be the only gold there. but i would guess there jingleing in some ones pocket

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    • l84thegame
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 5:37pm

      I believe that George Soros and his co-conspirators (NWO) will force the American economy to collapse before the election if it becomes clear that Obama cannot win re-election. The ensuing riots over food will result in Obama declaring Marshall law and “temporarily’ suspending the election. Our guns will be collected by force by our police and DHS, and then they will do whatever they want with us and our country. If they can fix the election and be assured that Obama will win, they will hold off the economic collapse until after they have confiscated our guns over a little longer period of time. They would prefer Obama to have another term to finish us and America off. They are not as ready as they would like to be to implement such a gun grabbing plan in the next 8 weeks. I do not believe that Romney would go along with such a planned destruction of our Constitution if he were to win. So watch the polls to see if Marshall law will be declared before or sometime after the election. JMO

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  • RLTW
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:22pm

    Read this on another site a few days ago, this judge and the gov are nothing but opportunistic leeches.

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    • RLTW
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:37pm

      Oh and by the way my gold and silver are backed by lead.

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    • Mr.Fitnah
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:37pm

      Judges like this one and Mike Martin could use a little Harry Brown treatment since they are Yobs

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  • soybomb315_II
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:21pm

    all they have to do is say it is a tax….

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  • grayling646
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:18pm

    Boy, this one’s gonna get everybody riled up.

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  • In the O.C.
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:18pm

    I’ll tell you, this kind of garbage is ONLY THE BEGINNING if Obama is re-elected. There will be NOTHING STOPPING HIM from doing anything he wants. He is a dangerous man. Very, very dangerous.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:17pm

    It’s like this….say I inherit a house from my uncle, in the attic, I find the Mona Lisa, the US Constitution, and Bags of Gold Billy the Kid stole from Wells Fargo. I take all these and try to go sell them, the fact that all these items would have been stolen and never rightfully my uncles makes them stolen property. That’s it, bottom line. No one knows how the coins ended up in their hands, but they know they belonged to the US Treasury and were never legally sold. Thus, stolen goods.

    What happens to a Pawn Broker if he buys a stolen watch, but then finds out it’s stolen? HE is out the money he paid the crook, and the police take the watch.

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    • turbo
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:28pm

      What happens to our government employees (that would be ALL of them) when they steal our money through political deals, special access, legislative accommodations, etc. etc.? Hmmm? That’s right, nothing. THE POINT IS THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS A DEN OF THIEVES!
      It’s common sense pal.

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    • pissantno.10
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:29pm

      they were stolen by the goverment in the first place if they guy never turned them in so what. if they get away with this kiss your 401 k good by or yor savings account thjey need the money to shore something up. what right did roosevelt have to take peoples wealth any way

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    • Bowlz
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:29pm

      Brilliant arguement…………..assuming that the law actually matters these days. It doesn’t whether it’s civil or criminal law. One tax payer dollar should not have been wasted on the salaries and benefits of the judge or the US atty involved. Go after real crimes, like Fast and Furious or the NBP’s committing Federal Hate Crimes by threatening citizens on air and in print. Won’t happen because the law simply doesn’t matter. The rules of the game change daily to the advantage of those with ‘titles’ to the disadvantage of those that don’t have ‘titles’.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:15pm

      I understand and agree with the fact FDR took gold away from people, unconstitutionally. But, these coins, from what I remember about them, They were produced by the mint, and never were released into circulation. The coins were stolen or sold by someone in the mint, and never actually were authorized to be circulated. So no matter what, these coins were stolen from the treasury, that is why the courts ruled this way. The same went for other coins that were found, records show that they were turned into the treasury, but were taken or sold unlawfully.

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    • phrogdriver
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:21pm

      It’s not stolen. In fact, it’s exactly the opposite. It’s property the gov’t tried to steal, but was saved.

      A better anaolgy would be: should a German judge sentence a Jew to execution because he escaped the gas chamber in 1939?

      I would say no.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:33pm

      @phrogdriver
      Bad analogy.

      It’s like I said, why these coins are so valuable, is they were never officially released, ever. The Mint produced them, but they were never issued. That is why the only ones owned publically are with foriegn investors, outside the US, they are stolen property. If it was a 1932 or older, no problem, but the 1933 was NEVER released. This is like going into the US Mint, taking a bunch of 2013 coins, say the Mint never releases any coins that year and destroys them, then suddenly, you pop up and say, I have a 2013 coin, and its mine. No, you or someone stole it, because it was never released by the Mint.

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  • Mandors
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:16pm

    Yet another example of why U.S. Attorneys are morons. They waste court time and money to seize coins–that the government won’t sell, where if they let the people have the coins they would sell them, and what? Come on, say it! That’s right PAY TAXES ON THE PROCEEDS! That’s right free money to the government and no expenses to popinjay half wit government lawyers trying to show how good they are so they can get high paying jobs in the private sector.

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 10:11pm

      Well, why not legalize all gambling, all drugs, and all prostitution including child prositution. Then they can also collect the taxes on that. This is theft, doens’t matter when it happened, you are advocating the Govt allow stolen property to be sold, and then tax it. What that does, is open the door for the Mint to produce coins, never release them, allow them to be “Misplaced” and the profit from the sales.

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  • pissantno.10
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:13pm

    all i can say is dumb bunneys what did they think was going to happen. they had to be libs i bet obama has 1 in is pocket right now. stupid people

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    • TelepromoterNChief
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:18pm

      Just one?

      Moochelle must of took the others.

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    • cmonnow
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 9:32pm

      Bush put this judge on the bench, not Obama.

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    • booger71
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 3:43am

      Come on now, the justice dept (Holder) brought the suit. He could have left it alone.

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    • NOTAMUSHROOM
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 9:16am

      Yes Booger. But c’mon now! I’m having fun counting how many times this loser blames Bush. You could make a drinking game out of it. Or a bingo board or something useful.

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    • Mgui35
      Posted on September 9, 2012 at 10:17am

      Please stop being critical of Michelle. Couldn’t you guys see the heartfelt sincerity in her eyes as she pleaded for another four years? What a great speech she gave. All she wants is for our food choices to be limited, so that we can be healthier. So what if she takes a lot of vacations. You would too, if you could afford it.

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  • sandy21957
    Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:12pm

    There should be a solid argument for statute of limitations on the violation of the law. Also, the decendants of the original owner did not commit any crime. Take it to the Supreme Court. That Judge sucks.

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    • starman70
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:19pm

      After the Obamacare fiasco, do you really think the Supreme Court, loaded with lefty libs, will find in favor of the owners? FAT CHANCE!!!

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    • pissantno.10
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:19pm

      how much do you wanna bet he gets a cut of that action

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    • phrogdriver
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:19pm

      The Statute of LImitations wouldn’t apply. If your great great grandfather robbed a bank, you couldn’t be charged with te crime, but if you found the money in your basement, it still wouldn’t be yours.

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    • phrogdriver
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:28pm

      Having said that – the Judge is enforcing an unconstitutional and unjust law.

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    • sandy21957
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:32pm

      The grandfather didn’t steal it, just didn’t turn it over to the government when FDR decided that people couldn’t legally own gold. People hoarded many things during the Depression, if they could have gotten away with it gold. The old man figured that eventually the government would reverse their position, that’s why it was in a safe deposit box. I would have done the same thing. Theft was not the issue. Possession was.

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    • neidermeyer
      Posted on September 8, 2012 at 7:42pm

      I’m not sure any law was broken ,, it wasn’t a law it was a presidential order that has since been rescinded… What’s the statute of limitations on petty theft …$20*10 = $200.00

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