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12.13 Final released

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First final version of Opera in 2013 is here! We have just released Opera 12.13, this is a recommended stability and security update for all users. It also includes couple of bugfixes, most noticeably fixes for not loading any pages when Opera was started without Internet connection and internal communication error on Facebook. We would like to thank you all for helping us with testing 12.13 up

You can get your favourite browser on opera.com. Changelogs are available here.

Opera 12.13 RC2

Comments

senseysensor Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:06:08 AM

Thanks for your work!
Works pretty good and stable for me. No crashes. Mac os x 10.8.2, HWA off
Cannot confirm issues about crashes on checking for update and clicking "OK".

Djordje Aleksicdjalex1977 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:14:24 AM

Thank you! I'm second, this time.

GTSSGela2010 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:19:49 AM

Crashes when autoupdate tells that I have the last version and I click button "OK". if you delete a folder widgets then works normally
mad assembly is bad, I do not advise

utopian1955 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:20:20 AM

So much looks better, but I have already had a couple of crashes with this revision, whereas before it was just things which could not be rendered properly.

Sent in detailed crash logs.

Hoping for quick resolution.

[got the final from Betanews over 12 hr ago]

norton2001 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:21:39 AM

Look forward to testing (having fun with) this build as with the last one.
Thanks to all for all of your hard work and effort, and for a superb product too
Happy almost February

Michael A. Puls IIburnout426 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:27:05 AM

FYI: Build shows as 1734 (one higher than last build), so it doesn't appear to be the same build as the last snapshot and you should upgrade to this build.

PraetorianX Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:31:54 AM

How do we find out the exact changes (fixes) between builds 1734 (final) and 1733 (rc2)?

The changelog linked here has very high level info and does not help.

Also crash on auto-update now happens deterministically (previously I either got a crash or a Opera has stopped responding).

Win7 x64 SP1, Opera x64 1734. No hwa, no webgl.

trasho2 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:37:10 AM

OK, now I am sure that Presto developing is frozen. Waiting for 13.00 on WebKit. Good luck.

mubaidr Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:39:27 AM

cheers

norton2001 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:40:28 AM

Am now getting the crash when checking on updates, which didn't happen on Monday's release.
Fixing soon as am trying to get lots more people using Opera than that crap Chrome type thing:ninja:

Gela2011 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:43:33 AM

shows that it is ready interns

Gela2011 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:45:22 AM

Originally posted by norton2001:

Am now getting the crash when checking on updates, which didn't happen on Monday's release.
Fixing soon as am trying to get lots more people using Opera than that crap Chrome type thing:ninja:

Confirmed Win7x86

Christophchristoph142 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:02:41 AM

How can you release it with DSK-381379 making it crash all over the place?!
Everybody kept complaining and telling you about it. Once more, I'm astonished faint

QuHno Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:04:11 AM

Originally posted by Gela2010:

Crashes when autoupdate tells that I have the last version and I click button "OK".


Confirmed. w7x64

Does not happen here if I rename the widgets folder.

Jungled-ilyich Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:07:05 AM

AdBlock, NoAds and Ghostery can't update subscriptions and filters if Opera uses proxy. Without proxy everything's OK.

DSK-378243

GeekK Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:20:03 AM

Still getting crashes on facebook (secure). Seem to be connected to plugin wrapper crashes, which also featured in the last snapshot.

No crash report dialog appearing [edit: ok, that's a known issue. I don't have HA enabled.]

Win7 x64.

Claus Berghammercolebantam Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:22:25 AM

12.13 lives to the expectations, of the many crash-reports here in the blog. For me, it crashed on the very first page I loadet after the upgrade sad

EDIT
Also, this is the worst Opera Version for Facebook ever. Opera stops responding for a few Seconds after EVERY new pageload!

Sad to say, but quality is in free fall @ opera. This build is beta-quality at its best sad

Seems like I will downgrade to 12.12 very soon.
EDIT END

SECOND EDIT
Switched to 32Bit Version now, and this one looks good so far. Facebook is responsive, no Crashes so far. No crash on Update-Dialog.
END EDIT

THIRD EDIT
32bit version is crashing too sad
EDIT END

Win8 Pro x64

larsen25 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:34:34 AM

What about an Opera version/branch that deserves the description "stable" and only gets security updates?

Gela2011 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:36:44 AM

assembly is not modified and is not recommended for continuous extend to using yikes

Tomáš Pavlíkcoritanorum Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:39:24 AM

Thank you for this, Opera. You made my day smile
Morning without coffee, breakfast, music and freshly updated Opera isn't a proper morning! 'Ooking into future for next releases, though bigsmile

trasho2 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:39:36 AM

BTW: crash after update. Cannot run Opera. This is ridiculous. Must use FF.

blackcoder Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:40:20 AM

Originally posted by colebantam:

Also, this is the worst Opera Version for Facebook ever. Opera stops responding for a few Seconds after EVERY new pageload!


Can not confirm.
Opera 64-bit, Windows Vista 64-bit.

edit:
Works fine so far. cheers
I did not tried the updater.

Christian WeberrussMosef Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:48:26 AM

Can confirm Update Check Crash. Send a crash log. Opera 12.13 32bit Win7 32bit

@colebantam
Facebook works like a charm here

Claus Berghammercolebantam Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:53:05 AM

Originally posted by Mosef:

@colebantam
Facebook works like a charm here



Yes, 32Bit Version works well. Switched to that, and is ok so far.

UPDATE 1: 32bit version just had a crash too. Still much better then the 64bit build.

Орлин КънчевHipHopBlond Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:55:15 AM

Thanks! I hope this build is crashfree... haven't experienced so much crashes like I did with the previous builds =/ Good luck.

Claus Berghammercolebantam Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:57:25 AM

Originally posted by blackcoder:

Originally posted by colebantam:

Also, this is the worst Opera Version for Facebook ever. Opera stops responding for a few Seconds after EVERY new pageload!

Can not confirm. Opera 64-bit, Windows Vista 64-bit.



Interesting. What Plugins do you have installed and activated? I have plugins enabled only on request. And as someone posted earlier, I think its a problem with the plugin-wrapper. I had those "waiting for response" thingey already with previous 12.x builds, but never that often and recreateable as with 12.13. The pluginwrapper is one of the biggest differences between 32bit and 64bit builds, as it has been removed in 32bit builds already earlier.

EDIT
Well, I think it wasn't called "plugin-wrapper" in older 32bit builds, but "Out Of Process Host" or so. Don't have the exact naming in mind. Whatever, the "Plugin-System" was a big problem and was reverted in 32bit Version. Hope they can fix that someday. Until then, I'll stick with the 32bit builds.
END EDIT

GTSSGela2010 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:01:41 AM

opera 12.13.1734 crashfree bigsmile

Kjartan Geble OlsenGeble Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:03:36 AM

Instant chrash if I try to paste anything into the search field.
Running on Linux.
Last version that didn't chrash on copy/paste was 12.02..

GTSSGela2010 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:04:34 AM

I can not understand how you can skip the error, it ruin the authority of the browser

GeekK Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:09:34 AM

Originally posted by colebantam:

And as someone posted earlier, I think its a problem with the plugin-wrapper. I had those "waiting for response" thingey already with previous 12.x builds, but never that often and recreateable as with 12.13. The pluginwrapper is one of the biggest differences between 32bit and 64bit builds, as it has been removed in 32bit builds already earlier.

EDIT
Well, I think it wasn't called "plugin-wrapper" in older 32bit builds, but "Out Of Process Host" or so. Don't have the exact naming in mind. Whatever, the "Plugin-System" was a big problem and was reverted in 32bit Version. Hope they can fix that someday. Until then, I'll stick with the 32bit builds.
END EDIT

Guess a report on the 64bit plugin wrapper must be submitted, at least for 7/8. Has this already been done so?

Also thinking about reverting to 32bit.

Zalex ;-) Zalex108 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:19:00 AM

After reading all this Ill wait for a good update.

Claus Berghammercolebantam Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:21:27 AM

Originally posted by GeekK:

Guess a report on the 64bit plugin wrapper must be submitted, at least for Win7/8. Has this already been done so?



I have VISTA 64Bit with Opera 64Bit runing on lots of customer-computers (version 12.12 so far), and in my opinion, the Wrapper is a problem there also. I don't think its only a problem with 7/8, but depends on what plugins are installed. Thats why I asked BlackCoder what plugins he has installed and activated.

No, I didn't file a bugreport so far, as I think, Opera knows very well about that problem. Of course I can write one, if its helpfull.

Arsenytarc Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:21:52 AM

Opera x86 & Opera Next for mac OS X gives no update information to the user

XenoAntaresXAntares Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:22:51 AM

Originally posted by christoph142:

How can you release it with DSK-381379 making it crash all over the place?!
Everybody kept complaining and telling you about it. Once more, I'm astonished faint


I cannot confirm that crash for build 1733 and 1725.* Neither now with an update available, nor earlier without one.


____
* WinXP, 32bit.

Erik HauboldAltarius Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:23:22 AM

Originally posted by trasho2:

OK, now I am sure that Presto developing is frozen. Waiting for 13.00 on WebKit. Good luck.



and how do you explain the development on presto? afaik we are at 2.12.388, but they already got to 2.12.417

http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/presto2.12/

lair Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:24:49 AM

Originally posted by trasho2:

OK, now I am sure that Presto developing is frozen. Waiting for 13.00 on WebKit. Good luck.



Hope it'll never come.
Presto is the power of Opera bigsmile

Arsenytarc Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:24:55 AM

Still no OperaNext x64 version for Mac OS X

boger13 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:25:52 AM

any chance of getting the AutoCopy selected text (to clipboard) as a part of opera standard build?

the way it worked here:
http://my.opera.com/Lex1/blog/copying-text-with-formatting-to-clipboard-and-autocopy-js?startidx=50

Michael Maierschwiebie Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:28:49 AM

Originally posted by XAntares:

Originally posted by christoph142:
How can you release it with DSK-381379 making it crash all over the place?!
Everybody kept complaining and telling you about it. Once more, I'm astonished
I cannot confirm that crash for build 1733 and 1725.* Neither now with an update available, nor earlier without one.


It seems to be a problem with x64 version. For me it also crashes on Win7x64, and no crash on Win7x32.

MRCS Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:29:51 AM

For the Opera download page, if I click on 'more options' and the radio button for English (or International), I get "404 Not Found". If I eliminate the ".geo" part of the domain name in the URL, it works. (Same whether JS is on or off.)

Anybody else?

Swapnil RustagiSwapnil99pro Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:43:11 AM

Opera 12.12 x86, Windows XP SP3 - updating using Auto-update.

"Auto Update Error

An error occurred during download (could not validate file).
Unfortuantely, we are not able to recover from this error automatically."

I think I know the reason, previously -
Autoupdate files were located in
(Opera 12.12) - ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/1212/autoupdate/

All releases were like that.
However, this time, the auto-update files for 12.13 were at-
ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/autoupdate/

Is the new stand-alone updater using the new path?

CryioAcryion Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:43:37 AM

So....updating from 12.13 RC2 to Final didn't go smooth

bug Wide installer when manually updating
bug There are pages that do NOT load completely, although Opera is reporting the page as fully loaded. MAJOR REGRESSION.
bug Click OK, after checking for updates crashes the browser.
bug ... To be continued.


In other words, Opera 12.13 has at least 1 show-stopping bug no

quarkdrunkensurgeon Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:47:14 AM

Yep, crashes just after checking for updates

thevolsci Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:48:02 AM

no crash fixes.epic release thanks.

Edmund BlackadderHypnotoad Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:54:46 AM

I can't upload files to google drive using RC2.
Is it working in final using 32-bit windows build?

*I think I answered my own question, seems to work for now*

Yogurth Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:08:25 PM

Ouch, crash after crash on various sites...sent more than few reports. If particular site is called during startup, Opera will crash during startup and rendering it unusable, since tab can't be closed as it happens too fast. Windows XP x64 portable install.

Reverted to the last 12.50 build and crashes are gone.

ktxgio Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:22:17 PM

thanks, in download

GTSSGela2010 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:27:28 PM

rawer final release candidates

OlliOlli91 Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:31:56 PM

Originally posted by trasho2:

OK, now I am sure that Presto developing is frozen. Waiting for 13.00 on WebKit. Good luck.



What makes you sure about this? There are newer Presto versions in development than the one integrated in this release. http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/presto2.12/#m212-395 goes to 423.

s/ashslash4real Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:33:13 PM

Yay, updated yes

12.50? on Presto? in the near future? maybe? smile

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