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Music Biz Demands Piracy Filter From Torrent Sites, Or Else

In their ongoing efforts against online piracy, the UK music industry wants torrent site owners to guarantee that links to infringing tracks and albums will no longer appear on their websites. The demands require torrent site owners to install and maintain a broad keyword filter or launch a system to prevent infringing uploads. Music industry group BPI warns that those who fail to cooperate can expect legal repercussions.

casette.jpgWhen it comes to anti-piracy initiatives the UK music industry is one of the world’s front-runners.

The major labels are responsible for blocking a wide range of websites including The Pirate Bay, and last month they teamed up with City of London Police in a campaign to shutter popular torrent sites.

Keeping the pressure up, UK music industry group BPI is now contacting torrent sites with a legal threat of their own. In their letter the BPI accuses torrent site owners of encouraging and facilitating massive infringement of their copyrights.

“We are writing you in relation to the Site’s very large-scale infringements of the Members’ copyrights in sound recordings in the UK. The site encourages and enables the infringement of those copyrights by users of BitTorrent technology,” the letter notes.

The BPI explains that it found pirated music from Amy Winehouse, Justin Bieber, Rihanna, Take That and many other popular artists via torrent sites, and claims that site owners are liable for these infringing works.

“We have carried out tests which confirm that torrent files for sound recordings identified in the enclosed list are available for download and/or accessible by magnet link on the Site. You are therefore liable for infringement of the copyright in those sound recordings,” BPI explains.

To prevent further damages the BPI asks the site owners to “take immediate action” to prevent further infringements.


BPI Demands

bpi-letter

As can be seen in the image above, the BPI wants site owners to remove a list of albums and tracks from their sites. However, it doesn’t stop there as the music group also demands that future uploads should be prevented and reserves the right to expand the list in the future.

The enclosed list doesn’t specify any URLs. This means that the torrent site owners would have to install a broad keyword filter to comply, or otherwise prevent new titles from being added to the site.

Responding to the letter, one torrent site owner made it clear to TorrentFreak that he doesn’t intend to cooperate.

“Apparently BPI thinks that all the whole world is governed by UK laws, sponsored by BPI! They don’t like torrent sites – fine, we don’t like their ‘music’,” we were told.

According to the site owner his site complies with takedown notices as most others do, including requests from BPI members. However, he can’t find any recent notices from the BPI itself and the music group is not among the most active senders.

“There are several music labels who happen to be BPI members who send cease and desist notices. These are processed normally – content gets deleted if they send URLs, which usually takes up to four hours,” the site owner explains.

The BPI has a different view on the matter and believes that the torrent sites have an obligation to take action.

“These sites exploit artists’ work without their permission and undermine the massive investments that labels make bringing new music to fans,” BPI’s Chief Executive Geoff Taylor tells TorrentFreak.

“They also inhibit the development of legitimate services, which need a level playing field to grow. We have therefore written to ask that they take immediate action to ensure they no longer infringe copyright,” he adds.

If the sites fail to respond positively the BPI plans to take legal action, as the group makes clear in its letter.

“If we do not hear from you by 8 July 2013 with confirmation of the above, then the Members will take appropriate legal action in relation to the Site without further notice to you.”

Whether that means site owners will be dragged into court, or that the BPI will apply for the sites to be blocked in the UK, remains to be seen.

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  • HMMM

    1ST FILTER RHIS BOLLOCKS

    • YourAmericanOverlord

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      The noose tightens.
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      • Master

        Around your neck? Sure.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          You deny that it is harder to share content? You’re either living in a TF bubble or very new to P2P.

        • Peanuts

          I find it more easier to share then i did 5 years ago.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          “I find it more easier to share then i did 5 years ago.”

          Online, no one knows you’re a dog.
          5 years? newb.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          everyone knows ima retard. hehe

        • MadAsASnake

          Did you get Steiner’s permission? Are you breaching copyright, or worse, paigarising?

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Derpa derpa derp.

          The funny part is, you probably think you’re being outrageously clever.

        • MadAsASnake

          Just pointing out the hypocrisy jerks like you spout. It’s OK for you, who castigate others for copying to ddo so at will? Or Not?

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          You really can’t be this stupid.

          Can you?

        • guest

          and you think that you are clever by posting to a comment like that lol

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          And you too, lool

        • guest

          I didn’t reply to the comment that you did but only replied to yours PMSL.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          lol, keep digging.

        • guest

          Nah I am not digging, I am filling the soil on top of you as you keep digging. PMSL

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Brilliant reply. You’re like Oscar Wilde or sum shit.

        • Isabel Herron

          just as Todd responded I am startled that a mother can profit $8120 in 4 weeks on the internet. have you read this site link w­w­w.K­E­P­2.c­o­m

        • billy

          The OP never said they’d only been online for 5 years, merely that sharing is easier now than 5 years ago. Big difference.

        • Master

          “You deny that it is harder to share content?”

          I never denied that it’s harder to share content did I? It’s actually becoming easier to share than ever before.

          “You’re either living in a TF bubble or very new to P2P.”

          You seem delusional.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          You, by comparison, seem like a fount of wisdom.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          ima son of a mongoloid. hehe

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          You seem to have eaten some tainted chop suey, my friend. Relax, this too shall pass.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          My name is YourAmericanOverlord. ima 30 yo ol mongoloid. hehe

        • YourAmericanOverlord
        • YourAmericanOverlord

          YourAmericanOverlord = mongoloid
          hehe

        • Traveller

          He’s just a troll -maybe a clone of some we know here-. Note his avatar.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Nuthin gets past you, does it Sparky? Oh well, try again.

          Troll = Anyone who disagrees with TF talking points.

        • Hector

          PMSL

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          COTFLGOHAHA

        • Hector

          PMSL keep dreaming

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Now you’re gettin all
          intellectual on me.

        • Hector

          HAHA

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Just can’t help yourself, can you? Go on, post some more.

          You know you will.

          http://www.seobook.com/images/freetard/freetards.gif

        • Hector

          Yeah i will, Go on, post a reply because you can’t help yourself, can you? You know you will. PMSL

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          You have successfully crawled up your own ass and out the other end.

          Congratulations, Junior.
          MOAR!!!

        • Your Chinese Overlord

          Are you bored, Anon?. Remember you, US, owe us several hundred billion $

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          And you, sir, have no tradable currency because your country would fall apart if you opened your markets.

          Tempt me, and I will sit on you and squash the rice from even your nostrils.

        • Your Chinese Overlord

          If we decide to stop exporting our products to you until you pay us what you owe us plus interests, you’ll be in serious trouble, for some time at least. Remember that.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Uh, you really don’t understand international debt at all, do you?

          Number one: it’d never happen.

          Number two: it’d just put tons of manufacturing jobs into Mexico.

          Three: you’d go bankrupt as your largest customer will have disappeared.

          Four: try paying your own debt to Thailand before bitching to us.

          http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2013/06/16/bad-omens-in-china-banks-default-debt-auctions-fail/

          40 years ago your people were starving en masse. 15 – 40 million dead. Don’t think your growth, such as it is, will last… no one else does.

          lol.

          ~~~~> next?

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          im inbred son of alec’s mom and anon’s uncle

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          i suck cock. hehe

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          aw, don’t cry.
          I’m just a troll.

          I’ll go away soon enough.

          There there son, the pain will pass… lol, no need to pretend to be me…lol.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Hey stop cloning me mongoloid.
          I’ll never go away … hehe

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          And you think this is something to be proud of?

          “I will never leave this forum! I will never get a life! I will stay online until my mid 30′s!”

          Christ, you’re seriously so far up your own ass… you have no idea which was is up anymore.

          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3108989/

        • Hector

          You should apply for Americas Got Talent as a comedian, you would have the audience howling with laughter that’s if they can see you through the tumbleweed rolling by in front of the stage. lol

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          ??

          That’s the problem with online comment sections and forums: wasting time with 12 year old and the mentally challenged.

          Or, in your case, both.

        • Hector

          “”wasting time with 12 year old and the mentally challenged.”"

          which you are more than happy to deal and comment with.

        • Your Chinese Overlord

          Your debt with us is several trillion dollars. Stop wasting your time here in TF and start working hard to pay it.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          We owe more to ourselves.

          Also, being, by far the largest publicly tradable currency means we can take on much greater debt before feeling the pinch.

          You’ll learn all about this in ECON101. In about 8 years when you move to the US to go to one of our various top rated, world class universities. Maybe.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          ima mama pussy eating mongoloid…

        • FerkinMerkins

          US ‘wealth’ – built on the assumption that trading in the USD will continually forever. What was it you said earlier about growth never lasting? Same goes for recently unstable currencies like the USD.

          All it would take is a big enough wobble in the value for people to call in debts and switch to other currencies and you’d see the US economy crash. It’s in a very precipitous position right now.

          Nearly 20% of US children now live in poverty. More than 16% of the population (of all ages) now lives in poverty and it’s growing year on year. Not such a good record for “THE largest disposable income the world has ever seen. Top ten income per capita…”

          Maybe you need to stop spending so much of that disposable income on music and films and use it to feed the exponentially growing homeless population. After all, sharing’s easier than ever and you can get all that music and those movies for free. It’s about priorities in social responsibility.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          ima pedo…

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          hehe retard

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          why am i talking to myself?

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          ima retarded son of a retard. mama says i’ll die of retardation…

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          i use my mind in my arsehole. hehe

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          I am now amused.
          You may live, little coolie.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          i am amused my mind is up in my arsehole. hehe

        • MadAsASnake

          Will do once you f–k off.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Never happened before.
          Won’t start once I’m gone.

          Especially from your dumb ass.

        • MadAsASnake

          There are some intelligent commenters around here, and sadly a good few airheads, as you ably demonstrate. Now really, bugger off.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Just say ONE intelligent thing.

          Just one.
          And, I’ll disappear forever.

        • MadAsASnake

          Bye Bye

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          “Better to quit, than try and fail.”
          ~ Every Teenager Ever.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          YourAmericanOverlord = pussy
          hehe

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Troll = Anyone who disagrees with a retard. hehe

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “Troll = Anyone who disagrees with TF talking points who picks the nickname “YourAmericanOverlord” and a pic of a 500-lb lardarse in a wheelchair for an avatar.”

          FTFY.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          ima a retard… hehe

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          You represent the best of this forum/comment secton/ movement.

          I’m sure they’re as pleased as punch to have you so vocally among their ranks.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          me talking to myself again. am i going away? hehe

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          You really don’t understand the use of a good counter-argument, do you? Well, keep wishing it away.

          Wish it all away, Anthony.
          I’m sure that’ll make you stronger.
          http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/43877/thumbs/s-MCCAIN-large.jpg

        • Tombozi

          GTFO with your spam, you’re polluting the thread.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          STFU and GTFO, *cries*

        • Red Oktober

          Do you like nukes?. Russian boomers have lots of ‘em pointing at your fat ass.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Pfftlalalahahaha.
          Good one.

          My fat ass is all you fellas dream about. Go on, you can dream. No one can stop a grown man from dreaming of another man’s ass.

        • Red Oktober

          Empires fall, fat, obstreoporous, idiot Yank. US will fall as the Soviet Union fell
          before and many other empires that live only on history books. Your puny
          country of fat jerkasses will be crushed without mercy. Ir one way or another.

          Keep dreaming you’re the center of the world when you’re the anus.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Sorry.

          :-(

        • Red Oktober

          Empires fall, fat idiot Yank. US will fall as the Soviet Union fell before and many other empires that live only on history books. Your puny country of fat jerkasses will be crushed without mercy.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Generational failure can make a country bitter. I understand your dilemma, but don’t you have a dissenter / protestor to torture?

        • Tombozi

          Guantanamo Bay is Russian?
          Bradley Manning was tortured by Russians?
          George W. Bush, war criminal, is Russian?
          Snowden and Assange are wanted by Russia?

          Too much fat around your eyes, makes you blind.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          You seriously think Russia is kinder to free speech? Hoooooly Shit.

          Speaks volumes about this site and the contents therein.

          *peels out scooter*

        • MadAsASnake

          1 more mouseclick to TPB (the proxy). Might technically be harder – but not really.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Less blogs sharing great rare albums. Less people sharing.

          Hell, I remember 10 years ago, people didn’t even realize sharing was illegal. The stigma wasn’t there.

        • *sigh*

          oh god. we’ve picked up another retard.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          *sigh*

        • MadAsASnake

          The BPI’s anti-piracy efforts? Absolutely.

        • FerkinMerkins

          Sharing’s not illegal, it’s unlawful. Different laws.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “Harder”?

          As in what, having to actually perform a query rather than filter alt.binaries through a news reader by hand?

          Sheesh. sharing is easier these days than it has ever been in the last fifteen years or so.

      • x

        As with all things, the harder you squeeze, the more falls through your fingers.

        I seriously hope you are being paid to troll this site, I can’t imagine anyone being this sad without financial incentive.

        Much like the MAAFIA….

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          I’m sure you can spend countless hours imagining various sad things to do for profit.

          You are Chinese after all.

        • WD

          You really are this retarded? Wow.

          There’s a clear differencevbet2e3n bootlegging and sharing files.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          ima mongoloid afterall

        • Master

          If they’re paying for this, they’re sure not getting their money’s worth.

          I’m so glad that they’re willing to pay someone to entertain me like this guy does.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          You guys, not that funny.

          I must say.
          Don’t feel like I’m getting my money’s worth here this morning.

        • http://directdemocracyireland.ie/ Peeed Off
        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Oh GOD that was a riot.
          J/k didn’t click.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          oh gawd i have plenty of spare time!

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          i bang my dad in the arse :)

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          You too?

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          yeah. i pulled it out to let him suck. he said had the taste of my sister’s pussy…

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Classy. I expected no less from this group. Guess it’s true that most pirates are under voting age, or at least, have the intellect of a 15 year old virgin gas huffer. Well played.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          everyone noes ima useless cunt.. only can be fucked by others.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          That would be a use.
          Troll fail.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          why can’t i leave me alone? hehe

        • asdsad

          arguing on internet – like running for special olympics

        • FerkinMerkins

          Piece work huh? Quantity over quality that’s for sure.

      • One-Eyed Willie

        This asshole is obviously paid to do this so why are you guys feeding this fat troll? Shame on all of you.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Because they’re undisciplined teenage idiots. Slaves to their greed, and knee jerk teenage angst and anger. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

          HAIL THE GREAT SATAN!!

          LONG LIVE ‘MERKA!!!!

      • Nasty

        Ya the industry have better to stop all of this BS or we will hang them all. And no we are not going to throught their dead body to the dogs. We are not going to poison our dogs! Heeelllllloooooo!

      • JordanKratz

        Another dumb Troll like bobmail and fetty SKUM.

    • One-Eyed Willie

      Is it me or does the Music Biz sound like a screaming spoiled child that needs a spanking?

  • Anyone

    “We have carried out tests which confirm that torrent files for sound
    recordings identified in the enclosed list are available for download
    and/or accessible by magnet link on the Site. You are therefore liable
    for infringement of the copyright in those sound recordings”

    what the fuck? why?

    • Master

      All they are after is control. They already say that piracy isn’t putting a dent in their sales.

      There’s no other reason but for control over the internet.

      • Anon

        Actually, Master, it is the steps taken by government that are driving paying customers back to sales. “Control” is just another way of saying the creation of a more lawful environment. The evidence that site blocking and surveillance is working is everywhere now, and it is true that profits are climbing as a result.

        But piracy certainly “dents’ sales, government and industry knows that, and the enforcement steps will continue.

        The best part of this is watching you squeal.

        • guest

          “”The best part of this is watching you squeal.”"

          The best part is watching you Anon trying to stop piracy when it will NEVER be stopped. lol

        • Master

          “The evidence that site blocking and surveillance is working is everywhere now, and it is true that profits are climbing as a result.”

          Site blocking and surveillance isn’t working. There’s so many workarounds for blocks, It’s unbelievable. This is also the best way to piss off your customers: Blocking off your competition.

          It’s pretty obvious that you’ve stopped even trying. No sane person would believe the bullshit that you are spewing right now.

          “But piracy certainly “dents’ sales, government and industry knows that, and the enforcement steps will continue.”

          It doesn’t dent sales, it’s just a made-up reason to restricts peoples’ freedoms and rights. The government and the industry has the same common goal; control over the internet.

        • guest

          “”But piracy certainly “dents’ sales, government and industry knows that, and the enforcement steps will continue.”"

          According to the OFCOM report and findings in the UK they show that piracy actually increases sales and the government and industry are well aware of this report and findings in the UK.

        • Traveller

          Nope. The best part is watching you end in evidence each time you post your BS here.

        • Peanuts

          “”The evidence that site blocking and surveillance is working is everywhere now, and it is true that profits are climbing as a result.”"

          So when in the future you have blocked EVEN more sites and you still claim to be loosing sales etc. then you will NEVER be able to say that you are loosing money etc. as you will be admitting that site blocking is NOT effective and a waste of effort etc.

        • Sh!7

          DIAGNOSE HURENSOHN

          DIAGNOSE HURENSOHN

          DIAGNOSE HURENSOHN

        • wait_wait

          Umm, yesterday you said piracy is nothing but an irritant, today it’s making a dent?

          Your brain has turned so much into mush that you can’t keep your delusions straight anymore.

          And people being driven back to sales, that exists just in your head. I will buy that digital sales are probably increasing, but that’s just normal market growth, which only your delusional mind will link to anti-piracy measures. correlation != causation

        • Lowestofthekeys

          “But piracy certainly “dents’ sales, government and industry knows that, and the enforcement steps will continue.”

          The enforcement will most likely continue to fail because the methods aren’t very effective, as seen by the fact that piracy still looms as a threat to their precious bottom line.

        • Guest

          “The evidence that site blocking and surveillance is working is everywhere now”

          It doesn’t count when it’s imaginary, Anon.

          “and it is true that profits are climbing as a result.”

          So is this the MAFIAA’s new angle? Since piracy doesn’t stop profits from climbing, pretend like siteblocking is stopping piracy as a way to explain this phenomenon?

          Too bad profits began climbing well before siteblocking.

          “the enforcement steps will continue.”

          To fail.

          “The best part of this is watching you squeal.”

          The best part of this is watching you descend into increasingly delusional depths of insanity as every anti-piracy measure you can dream up doesn’t even slow piracy down for a millisecond.

          Now if you’ll excuse me I’m gonna go watch some movies on Movie 2K. Oh wait, the MAFIAA took it down.

          Then I guess I’ll just have to watch them on Movie 4K! Hahahahahaha, oh god the MAFIAA is useless.

        • should be staring in porns

          you sound like a retard. the music?hollywood lost money during a recession. shit had nothing to do with piracy. you would have to be retarded to believe that the whole country was in recession but Hollywood and big music. they are making more money now because people have more money to spend. fuck you Hollywood with your fucking lies telling us we should give you our money instead of feeding our kids. now lest hear a fat fuck tell me im a virgin even though my cock is as big as his fat arm.

        • Were Sick Of It

          Your actually that naive to think , this would stop any one from sharing music , There’s no way to stop it , They been trying stop it since the days of Napster , each time they try stop it a new sharing technology appears.

          Theres a 1000 ways you get your music from the Internet.

          Some one can get a CD and rip it to flacs convert to mp3 and share it a 1000 ways.

          Before Id give them one red cent I would turn on Free legal Internet radio program with a 1000s of stations in every genre of music there is and listen and rec it free .

          So if there making any profit its because consumers want pay for it , they don’t have too, you cant really control the airways easy as you think troll.

        • xpmule

          I am squealing as i upload Epic Warez ;)

          Run your mouth all you want but there is no obstacles in any way shape or form to me uploading or downloading. I can and do what ever i want and it is you who is crying about it not me lol

  • Anon

    When pirates build a case why their illegal copying should be allowed, these initiatives will lose their luster. But until then, this is brilliant, spot on and very timely. “Tell us why you should infringe our products or take the links down from your page.”

    nuff said. Pirates?

    Go fuck yourself.

    • Anyone

      why should the sites be responsible for links?

      • YourAmericanOverlord

        Because they’re hosting them.

        Aiding and abetting.

        Why should I be responsible for someone holding a pound of meth in my car? Or willingly putting up a criminal in my house? Welcome to reality, junior.

        • Anyone

          they are not hosting any content

          once you criminalize links you may as well shut down the internet

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          They’re hosting links.
          That’s what ‘Anyone’ was talking about.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

        • Master

          Linking to websites isn’t illegal the last time I checked.

          Google wouldn’t exist if it was.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Oh please, do you reallyexpect me to rise to that rubbish argument?
          Gopeddle your waresto some trigger tempered newb.

        • Nomad

          “”Oh please, do you reallyexpect me to rise to that rubbish argument?”"

          You did rise to it by giving a reply.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          That’s not a rise.
          Troll harder, nub.

        • Nomad

          PMS. Keep dreaming lol

        • Master

          You seem uneducated. Please unplug your Ethernet cable as soon as possible to avoid further embarrassment and humiliation.

        • truthina

          “YourAmericanOverlord” Your extreme stupidity is on another level , you clearly have been clouded by the media and american hypocrisy , I bet you think american powers tell “the truth and nothing but the truth” You sir deserve a facepalm from every human and animal in existence. They do not host the content ,they simply provide links to help others and secondly the BPI does not own the internet , they are criminals out there for money , If i was an artist or maybe i am an artist and i told the BPI to seize a site that has my content with no compensation they (the BPI) would simply not care . Before i leave shall i do you the favour of calling your isp to disconnect you from the internet to save the interwebs from your overwhelming stupidity?

        • YourAmericanOverlord
        • FuckAllNiggers
        • xpmule

          I am HARDCORE !

        • I-Kill-Fat-Fucks

          FUCK YOU ASSCLOWN YOU FAT PIECE OF SHIT

        • YourAmericanOverlord
        • FerkinMerkins

          Still ‘stealing’ other people’s media I see. Hypocrite.

        • xpmule

          yea we do so answer the question instead of denying it and insulting us.. grow up brat.. act your age.

        • TheDoctour

          According to this logic, posting a link on Facebook to a news article is hosting of infringing content?

          I would like your reply.

        • Peanuts

          As long as the site complies with DMCA take down notices then they cannot be held responsible for what its users upload as they are covered by the safe harbour of the DMCA.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Laws change.

        • Peanuts

          And they haven’t yet have they until they do the safe harbour of the DMCA applies.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          They have, Peanuts.
          You’re just behind the curve.

          Somehow, I will tamper down my utter surprise at that.

        • Peanuts

          The safe harbour of the DMCA still applies

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Yawn.

          “Once notice is given to the service provider, or in circumstances where the service provider discovers the infringing material itself, it is required to expeditiously remove, or disable access to, the material. The safe harbor provisions do not require the service provider to notify the individual responsible for the allegedly infringing material before it has been removed, but they do require notification after the material is removed.”

        • Peanuts

          The safe harbour of the DMCA applies as long as the site operator complies with the DMCA notice and removes said object in that notice.

          As long as the site removes the object in the DMCA notice then they are covered by the safe harbour of the DMCA.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          “As long as. As long as. As long as.”

          Which is the point you seem to be enthusiastically missing.

        • Peanuts

          “”Which is the point you seem to be enthusiastically missing.”

          I am not missing the point being as i clearly mention the point. PMSL

        • FerkinMerkins

          And if you RTFA you’d clearly see that this is the case. Sites have been complying with requests, but the requests haven’t been forthcoming.

        • Darth Vader

          I am altering the deal. Pray I don’t alter it any further

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          I pray you refrain from farting around my cock.

        • WD

          >mfw continually blocking your ears and saying “SSSSSSSSUUUUUUCK MMMMMYYYYYYY DIIIIIICK”

          Confirmed for drone with lack of any real intelligence.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Fake intelligence… the only kind worth having.

        • wehjgs

          There will come a time when the proles bite the hand that tethers them.
          I hope to see your kind covered in blood.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Ha Ha Ha Ha.

        • Georgian Android

          Running a website isn’t a privilege.
          Your way of thinking is archaic and classist at best.

          Privilege…
          Noun
          A special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to one person or group of people.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Well, it’s certainly not a right. Or, do you still think, as so many nubs before you, that the internet runs itself… out of the ether?

          Talk about archaic.

        • Georgian Android

          I never said it was a right. You said it was a privilege, as if only a special, elite chosen few could aspire to such lofty heights.

          Derpa derpa derp…..

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Keep beating around the bush, then shouting over your shoulder when anyone takes what you imply on it’s face… and responds with logic.

          Care to talk sense?
          If not, STFU and GTFO.

        • Georgian Android

          What? I mean, seriously, WHAT? Are you on drugs?

        • Anon

          Running a website is ABSOLUTELY a privilige. Every website is accountable to method, content and increasingly links, going forward. You think you have some RIGHT? lol

          Tell you what. if you think it’s an inalienable right, put something up that is take down worthy and watch your “rights” disappear.

          Seriously folks, pirates are idiots. In theory and in practice.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          My stalker.
          How cute.

        • xpmule

          Like how you were stalking me *again the other day hypocrite ?

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Who are you, little flea?
          Please, off my nuts…

        • guest

          Well you certainly do NOT have a right to make a profit on what you create, manufacturer etc. There is NO law whatsoever that states that a person must make a profit on what the create, manufacturer.

          Seriously Anon, you are an idiot if you think that you have the right to make a profit on what you think.

        • guest

          Seriously Anon, you are an idiot if you think that you have the right to make a profit on what you make or sell..

        • Guest

          “Running a website is ABSOLUTELY a privilige. “

          No, it’s free speech.

          But of course you wouldn’t know anything about that.

        • Nomad

          “”Running a website is ABSOLUTELY a privilige.”"

          So if the BPI website was taken down then the BPI wouldn’t complain about it being against their right that their website is being taken down, right! PMSL.

        • AnonymousVIP@ThePirateBay.sx

          I put stuff up all the time and NONE of it has ever been taken down or removed and thousands download my stuff every week FUCK OFF ASSCLOWN

        • Nomad

          I believe that you have answered my comment in error. My comment (that you have replied to) was in response to Anon who stated that “running a website was a privilege” where i posted a response basically saying that if it was a privilege and not a right then the BPI wouldn’t complain about it being against their right if their website was taken down and if they did complain about it being their right then they will be saying that running a website is a right and not a privilege when anon is saying that it is just a privilege to run a website.

          I have no complaints whatsoever whatever is hosted on any website and i use TPB quite alot myself. Maybe you should have addressed your comment to Anon and not me, just saying.

        • FerkinMerkins

          Yes, I have a right. It’s a right to free speech. The internet is a communication medium and my right to free speech extends to all communication media.

        • xAnonymous

          You’re a FAT piece of fucking SHIT fuck off loser

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          LOOOOOOL~!!!!

    • guest

      Look at the Youtube v Viacom ruling where it says that Youtube does not have to have to have a filter or install one by the way there is no law that states a site has to police its site for infringement whatsoever.

      Nuff said. Anon

      Go fuck yourself!

      • Anon

        You are missing the point spectacularly. The mission creep is apparent to everyone but you. lol

        Works fine and we will never, ever stop. Get used to this.

        • guest

          Not really missing the point, Just pointing out for him to look at the youtube v viacom ruling about filters. As long as the torrent sites comply with DMCA take down notices or equivalent of takedown notices then they are covered by the safe harbour by that notice and the site cannot be held responsible of its users.

        • Anon

          That’s true, yes I agree. But it is also true that the DMCA dates from 1998 and in the context of broadband and rampant infringement, the burden on the creator or rightsholder is not practical or tenable nor fair. As the American copyright czar completely reconsiders how online copyright will be enforced in the years ahead, and as other governments ponder the losses to their own digital economies, countries like the UK are visionary and going forward, one step at a time. It’s clear by now that Piracy has wrought this.

          In time, piracy and those who would infringe on the rights of others will lose enormous freedoms because we are only just beginning to surveille you properly, and eventually all piracy will have left is stealth. Increasingly these initiatives are working; more people are paying, profits are up and life is good.

          Good on ya, UK. The wild west internet is becoming a memory just as it should.

        • Traveller

          In time, piracy and those who would infringe on the rights of others will lose enormous freedoms because we are only just beginning to surveille you properly, and eventually all piracy will have left is stealth. Increasingly these initiatives are working; more people are paying, profits are up and life is good.

          Of course. The US surveillance on EU was just because piracy.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Countries not ‘allowed’ to spy on themselves get other countries to do it. Crazy, huh?

        • Anon

          “The US surveillance on EU was just because piracy.”

          Hardly.

          But if the EU wants a reliable online digital economy and an American trading partner, they know what to do to you.

          And they are doing it. Nicely done. :-)

        • Guest

          “”But if the EU wants a reliable online digital economy and an American trading partner, they know what to do to you.”"

          With the NSA business exposed the EU will more than likely be very hesitant with further trade deals with the US.

        • Traveller

          Unfortunately, those at the EC -Barroso and the like- will push to have it. Alas, if as the idiot of Anon wants US to spy on me even if I don’t fileshare, OK. I’ll have some fun sending between my several mail addresses fake messages about putting bombs in Wall Street, the Whitehouse, and the like,

        • FerkinMerkins

          …and failing. Who’d like a portable TPB proxy on a USB stick? I can knock them out for pennies these days.

        • guest

          Its your own fault for creating piracy in the first place. People will always copy and share what ever is available and if you make the content available then people will copy and share it. You could stop piracy completely by not making the content available. If there was no content available then people wouldn’t be able to copy or share it would as there would nothing for them to copy and share. If you don’t want piracy then don’t make the content available, simple.

        • Anyone

          the DMCA needs to be abolished, it ruins the internet

          a failed industry should not be able to censor the internet, just because they are too stupid to make any money

        • mainroy

          Speaking as a member of the silent majority.Oh F*ck Now Im not one!!

        • BB

          And in other news, the chocolate ration has been raised to 20 grams per week in Airstrip One

        • Guest

          “In time, piracy and those who would infringe on the rights of others will lose enormous freedoms”

          You had 16 years to accomplish that, and you completely failed at it.

          The only way pirates are going to lose any freedom is if they literally turn themselves in, such is the blithering incompetence of the efforts to punish them.

        • FerkinMerkins

          The UK is crippling its future digital entrepreneurial creators by stifling access to their own customers.

          This is in favour of monopolistic and irrelevant middlemen organisations like the BPI who create nothing and simply take money out of the UK economy.

          Ergo, supporting the BPI is damaging to the UK economy.

        • guest

          By way you will NEVER stop piracy, Get USED to this. PMSL

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          People still murder other people. Perhaps we should get rid of those laws as well?

        • Peanuts

          If its not in the bible then yes get rid of it.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          ??

        • Anonymous

          GO ON A DIET YOU LAZY FAT FUCK

        • try_again

          The big difference is that murder actually hurts people. There’s no proof that piracy hurts anyone, in fact there’s studies claiming otherwise.

          Another difference is that murder is only committed by a very small percentage of the people. But copyright infringement is being committed at a massive scale, by missions. And anti-piracy measures are ineffective and produce massive collateral damage.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Fallacy of insufficient statistics w/ a side of ad populum.

        • Master

          I guess the fight will continue until the industry goes bankrupt? Sounds good to me. The sooner the better, I say.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Then you’ll have nothing to pirate.
          LOL. http://www.seobook.com/images/freetard/freetards.gif

        • Guest

          And then culture and free speech win. LOL.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          You are free to speak freely now. Why commit copyright infringement with someone else’s work that doesn’t want it shared?

          Plenty of artists allow their stuff to be shared.

          WHY SO GREEDY? lol.

        • guest

          “”Why commit copyright infringement with someone else’s work that doesn’t want it shared?”"

          If the work wasn’t available then it won’t be copied and shared so if you don’t want your work to be copied then don’t make it available, simple.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          hahahah.

          Holy SHIT, that’s beautiful.

          Spoken like a true leech, who’s never created shit worth buying in his/her life.

        • guest

          “”Holy SHIT, that’s beautiful.

          Spoken like a true leech who’s never created shit worth buying in his/her life.”"

          Actually I have created and I am happy to share what i have created with people even for free. The pleasure that people get from what I have created is far more valuable then any money that i receive from what i have created.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Read my comment again, I said, “shit worth buying.”

        • guest

          “”Read my comment again, I said, “shit worth buying.”

          Read my comment again, I said i have created and i am happy to share what i have created with people even for free. Even if someone like you says what i create is shit that is not worth buying the fact that people buy it proves that it is not shit no matter what you say about it PMSL And one person calling it shit not worth buying doesn’t make what i make shit PMSL.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          I just ‘created’ some carbon dioxide. I’m a creator! Lookit me, ma! Lookit me!! I’m a creator! PMSL PMSL PMSL PMSL!!

        • Guest

          “I just ‘created’ some carbon dioxide”

          I wouldn’t be bragging about that. If Obama reads that, he’ll shut you down, take away your job, and tax or fine you to death.

        • Arr-Matey

          Admirable! And truly pays homage to the concept of the musician as a bard; come to town, play your music, and if the townsfolk like it, they donate to you.

        • TheDoctour

          Can you truly speak freely knowing that the US government (In the form of the NSA and who knows what other agencies.) are monitoring everything we do and say?

          And before you go off, I am an US citizen, born and raised.

        • Guest

          “Works fine and we will never, ever stop. “

          lol

          You never even began. You just huff and puff about how you’re fighting piracy while never managing to so much as scratch it.

          You stopped before you started.

    • Guest

      Sure, point out exactly where from the site can you download full files, where the website is holding infringing copies.

      Have fun wrangling away with YouTube while your hero John Steele gnashes his teeth. Meanwhile people trade data storage like our parents traded their mixtapes. How’d stopping that go? A smashing success, eh?

    • downunder

      LOL and people should pay attention to people with potty mouth.. how professional.. are uk police really kids and have a kinddie teacher to control them too? As for torrent sites.. and music.. I wouldnt worry to much about them destroying incomes of musicians. the average person have no clue about torrenting.. its only teens (who dont have much money anyhow cos they tend to be students) and hardcore users.. its already shown pirates spend more on music in recent surveys. sites that are search engines and allow direct download of full mp3s should be your worry.. as a average computer user doing a search can handle that..b ut installing software like p2p clients is still above many users today.. plus groups get fleeced more by people like simon cowells of the world.. if they got paid 50% of the song instead of a penny I dont thiink musicians would be so unhappy nowdays :)

    • MadAsASnake

      Why should a site that is fully compliant with EUCD take any notice of this?

    • Knut Harald

      Please, tell us why someone should be obliged to spend resources on surveilincing what could be located with their magnet links, that could infringe someone’s virtual property?

      It has always been the responsibility of the copyright holder to protect their rights, but now they’re complaining it’s too expensive, and others should take the cost. So now hard drive manufacterers takes a hit from their product getting taxed by the copyright monopoly, most user content based sites have huge costs processing infringement complaints already, and hey, maybe the almost bankrupt postal service should start taking some responsibility, and analyze their mail for infringement? I guess you think every service in the world should pay for these rights to be fullfilled, while still, protecting such rights is a ridiculous demeanour that is still easily circumvented?

      There’s an expression for this situation, where reality curbs around you and takes away your rights to your phantasy property: “Too bad.”

    • Traveller

      Go fuck yourself, your insults, and your lacks of arguments.

    • YourAmericanOverlord

      LOL, you tell ‘em.
      Effin pirate scum.

      BOW TO YOUR AMERICAN OVERLORDS!!!

      • guest

        PMSL at the raving loone.

      • ohjoy

        soon there will be software which you will not need sites to link content content will be hosted p2p inside a encryped network and checked for fakes soon until then

      • Guest

        You’ll have to excuse Hong Kong and Russia. They seem to have back problems that prevent them from bowing. It appears to be contagious.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Hard for crawling men to bow, we understand. Trapped in an airport is good enough. Same with Assange…

        • Guest

          Trapped in an airport (for now), and yet making more of an impact than you ever could, even if you fell out of your scooter.

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          *flaps lips in a derisive manner*

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Crawling men seldom bow.

    • hohoho

      posted by a muslim.you religion freaks are like red dots on genitals :D

    • markh

      temper temper, that is what I always notice of trolls, if they are cornered they start to produce fowl language

    • Guest

      “When pirates build a case why their illegal copying should be allowed”

      It’s harmless.

      Boom, done.

      As a bonus it also breaks the stranglehold that worthless middleman thieves have over distribution, which is why they pay cunts like you to spam the internet in support of them.

      “this is brilliant”

      Yes, how incredibly brilliant to send these demands to filesharing sites outside of the UK’s jurisdiction, rendering them entirely null and void. The MAFIAA demonstrates its stunning intelligence yet again.

    • Anonymous

      NO you go fuck yourself BITCH

    • Anon’s Mother

      There is no infringement. It’s all in your head. Now, please take the pacifier out of your ass and put it in your mouth where it belongs (eew)

    • xpmule

      the onus is on you to explain not us..

  • AntiLiberal

    I thought the U.S. was bad about taking freedoms away, glad I don’t live in the U.K.

    • FerkinMerkins

      I bet a lot of Brits are glad you don’t live there too.

  • darkdude1

    I guess they will demand Google removes every single instance of every copyrighted work found on its search engine or what….They’ll take it down? Block it? Pfft, useless threats.

  • downunder

    Sadly China has less censorship then UK now :)

    • Anon2

      UK censorship is really troublesome because they’re after things I use in every day life. Porn and piracy.

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  • fucking idiots

    yeah right!

    HAHAHAHHAHHA

  • John Space

    If I received a letter with such signature, I would consider it as an anonymous threat or a prank letter. Anoter reason not to do what they say.

    • Tombozi

      Signed by: BPI Auti-liky Uint

  • Harald

    Is it infringing to post (and update) the magnet link to all the magnet links?

    Small pirate bay archive (february 2013) (75.16 MiB)
    btih:277e1afa0038db7299cd8274310556526599f67c

    Complete Pirate Bay archive (february 2013) (631.34 MiB)
    btih:e4b6f847647211b930219492ecf1a9c7bc696d29

    • MadAsASnake

      You just cost hollywood a bazillion dollars, using hollywood accounting.

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  • Traveller

    Bullshitting ’cause those operators outside UK won’t give a fuck, of course. Worse is that to enforce it they’ll use public money.

  • YourAmericanOverlord

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    • deathwalker

      well tell your master from the RIAA to stop jerking your lead and it wont tighten so much that you go that beautiful shade of purple…..

      if your a lapdog you gotta expect a fucking every now and then boy!!!!!

      • YourAmericanOverlord

        You fuck your dog? lol.

        Nasty bit o’ business, that.

  • Guest

    Hmm, perhaps they need to go deeper, magnetception? linkception? since if they would still be liable that would mean that anyone linking to their site is also liable, and anyone linking to their site is also liable. Google, you’re fucked.

    • YourAmericanOverlord
    • Guest22

      This claim is clearly wrong under EU law. A service provider can’t be required to install a keyword filter, see the ECJ’s decision in Sabum v. Netlog.

  • Forkingham Melle

    Amy Wine-house RIP. but then, if she is dead, her copy rights should be free, as she cannot be paid when six foot under, unless there’s outstanding burial monies owed. as regards the others? not a chance in hell. censorship of a name in any form whatsoever on any site is so laughable in its ineffectiveness they will never ever ever ever learn it seems, oh well.

    • bobmail

      Alas, this is where you just don’t understand.

      Copyright doesn’t die when the artist dies, that would be entirely random and very hard to police.

      As an example, would Elvis Presley stuff be copyright or not? Some people think he is still alive, pumping gas or working collecting shopping trolleys at ASDA.

      What happens if an artist changes name? Did the previous name die?

      The “life of the artist” thing is impractical for so many reasons. Amy Winehouse as an example might have lost her label deal because of drug use, the risk of her dying (and having everything suddenly appear in the public domain) would be too high for anyone to make an investment.

      The Rolling Stones would likely be just more retired workers in the UK, their hard partying would have cost them their record deal ages ago.

      Nice impractical ideas. Do you work for Rick Falkenwedgie? He does the same thing.

      • Clownius

        That the problem. Copyright was supposed to be for the artist. As it currently stands copyright is to protect big media who take great pleasure in fucking the artist.

        Reduce Copyright to 5 years or less. If you cant make your money back in that time the content is either garbage or you spent way too much producing it.

        Maybe just maybe at that point you might convince more people its worth protecting. But under the current system no one gives a crap anymore.

        • Anon

          This is classic pirate ignorance. Many larger works like tours that need DVD sales or motion pictures that need international distribution don’t even break even at 60 months. Why is this important?

          Because this “Copyright was supposed to be for the artist.” is fundamentally flawed. Copyright was supposed to insure that arts and sciences embraced by the public are compensated regardless of the creator or rightsholder. Pay for what you copy. Or just shut up about the steps government is taking in response to your digital thieving.

        • Guest

          “Many larger works like tours that need DVD sales or motion pictures that need international distribution don’t even break even at 60 months”

          If they can’t break even after 60 months, fuck ‘em. A production that mismanages its budget that badly should not exist.

          “Pay for what you copy. Or just shut up about the steps government is taking in response to your digital thieving.”

          Hahahaha, no to both.

          But what you can do is shut the fuck up and exit the debate if all you’re going to do is lie.

          Pro-tip: filesharing is not thievery of any kind.

        • dxloat

          Then you are spending too much to do the tour dumb ass. If you can’t get a return on your investment in a reasonable amount of time then you must scale down like everyone else has to do in their personal lives, Its not really that hard to understand.

        • Ben Jones

          if tours and motion pictures don’t break even then that’s nothing to do with copyright, that’s just piss-poor planning. Basic business.

          The intent of copyright was to provide an INCENTIVE to create, not to promise a payday to anyone.

        • guest

          “”Or just shut up about the steps government is taking in response to your digital thieving.”"

          This is a classic Anon ignorance. Maybe you should just shut up because no one is thieving. If I make a copy of something i haven’t committed theft as you still have the item in question to which i copied,

          Besides there is NO law whatsoever that states that a person has to sell what they create for a profit so you certainly have NO right to make a profit on what you make or sell. You only have a privilege to make a profit NOT a right.

        • Clownius

          Nope because you have yet to manage to outlaw my Freedom of expression.

          I will continue to voice my opinion if you like it or not.

          Sorry but if in this day and age 5 years later you haven’t made your money on a movie it was crap. I will give you a hint on International distribution. It doesn’t need to take all that long. Heck us pirates have it down to mere hours ;-)

          Maybe you could learn from us how to do it? We are always happy to educate people.

          As for a Tour its not something that can be pirated and isnt a copyright issue anyway. Your work can be totally free online and people will still pay to see you live dumbass.

        • AnonymousVIP@ThePirateBay.sx

          Fuck off MORON

        • Nom nom nom

          No I will not shut up as long as you spew your copytroll rhetoric. Goverment steps are irrelevant as they are basically just bought and paid for by your MAFIAA employers, their moves are lethargic and obsolete before they even are implemented.

          Your kind will eventually be broken. Sure, there will be little whiners like you throwing hissyfits all over, but eventually your kind will DIE. You may have politicians in your pocket currently, but WE THE PUBLIC have history on their side.

          Copyright needs to die, and you along with it. It’s going to be a long fight but piracy is here to stay and there is nothing you can do about it. It’s in the will of the people.

          What you’re trying to do is stop the ice age with a little white picket fence and you standing behind it with a bullhorn yelling at the glaciers to stop. How does that make you feel?

      • Guest

        “Copyright doesn’t die when the artist dies”

        You’re right.

        Copyright is dead on arrival. =D

      • Shut the FUCK up Bob

        Of course it shouldn’t die with the artist, that would be “impractical” for your business, wouldn’t it you copy-turd. Mainly for economical reasons, right?

        “What happens if an artist changes name? Did the previous name die?”

        It’s actually very easy to manage as you can change your name as many times as you want. Your original name will still be on file. Look at it this way boob: If a government can figure out how to stop paying pension / social services then stopping copyright exploitation fees post mortem is not exactly rocket science either. As usual your arguments have been extracted by a physician with a torchlight.

        Your Winehouse example is spot on as you are illustrating exactly the cynicism that your employers hold to such high standard. First of, you are out of context and basing your argument on a what-if. But let’s play along and imagine the law was changed to end copyright on death of the original artist, your masters would indeed have to make some hard decisions on who to back, or maybe better yet it would force you to take better care of your weaker artists instead of fueling their deathspiral, well knowing you’ll currently be raking in a ton of cash as soon as they kill themselves. Anyone knows that a dead artist today is worth their dead arse in gold as nothing boost record sales than a corpse on the table.

        Then we got the Elvis example. My oh my, are we getting creative today bob? So what you’re saying is “No, some people THINK he’s alive so let’s keep the cash flowing, please”. It just falls under the same as above. Turning off the copyright cashflow upon artist’s death would in fact be the WORST thing that could happen to the powers you so eagerly serve.

        Again, you completely miss the boat with the Rolling Stones example as they are actually one of the few examples of still hard working artist – who actually would benefit. But as you usually do, you just whip out a fiction out of your ass to suit your feeble argumet.

        Why don’t you just come clean and say things as they are: “We, the record industry are the dregs of society and we don’t know how to make money on our own. We can only attach ourselves like leaches to artists and suck as much money out of them when they are alive and dryhumping every dollar out of their rotting corpses afterwards, so please don’t take that away from us”

        Butnoooo, instead you start throwing tantrums, and throwing Falkvinge in as a diversion At least he’s got the balls to stand up to your ilk using his real name. Why don’t you come out in the open and tell us who you really are Bob. Or are you a pussy?

      • Were Sick Of It

        Copyright = Corporate Greed

        There’s lots of artists that wrote music and sang it that are not allowed sing there own music anymore.

        When John Forgtrey made a solo album .they try sue him because His music sound too much like CCR witch he wrote and sang to began with.

        This is why I don’t buy music any longer , back in the 80s and 90s I bought lots but no more will I help these greedy labels that turn against the artist that made them rich to begin with.

        For me it goes much deeper than pirating music , I think the middle man needs to be got rid of and let artist sell there own music .

      • MadAsASnake

        As far as I am concerned, copyright does die with the death of the artist, or 10 years, whichever is the sooner. Not interested in the Mickey Mouse terms hollywood came up with. After, all, they didn’t consult us.

  • Jigsy

    I’ll just shameless plug this again. (I know it’s not great, but it works.)

    I’ve updated it a bit since the last time.

    http://jigsy.ath.cx/TorrentSpace/TorrentSpace.rar

    • Jigsy

      shamelessly*

  • Guest

    Why don’t torrent sites just simply, you know…

    deny from

    …into a .htaccess file?

    • Guest

      Way to go, disqus!

    • Clownius

      Because just like Pirates they can easily and effectively change their publicly visible IP with ease for just a few dollars a month or even for free.

      Its the same reason Peer Blocking software isnt effective.

      • xpmule

        it is effective ..the problem is people like you think there is some intention of it blocking ALL ant-piracy related ip addresses and that was never the intention in the first place.. you wouldn’t buy a car and expect it to fly would you ?
        Show me the Peerblock web site description where they state they protect people from pirate law suits etc

        I lock my door even if i could still be robbed anyway do you ? Or do you and the others just leave your door wide open when you go out ?

        People think they are in with the cool smart tech crowd or something and have to jump on the band wagon when it comes to bashing PB.

        If there are registered static Microsoft IP address registered and i could block them from my P2P programs why wouldn’t i ? Benefits maybe ?

        soooo tired of PB bashers..
        and many of these so called studies have even found to be bs and are based off a lists created a by a 3rd party like 7/8 years ago so that proves nothing !
        YOU OWN research say plenty and people should do their OWN homework.

        There was no magical unfounded technologically invalid claims made these were put into Peerblock’s mouth by people who wanted to bash the program..

        • Clownius

          The problem is the lists contain 1/4 of the internet and growing. Sadly having anything to do with copywrong isnt required. Hell i swear the MAFIIA writes the blocklists sometimes.

          Entire ISPs, just about every datacentre around, VPN provider and Seedbox provider is on the P2P safe blocklists. So it fucks the torrent community. Hell plenty of trackers are on the blocklist!

          The harm is the people who think these lists do something useful have their speeds reduced while gaining no protection. It makes torrents look slow and unreliable while letting the MAFIIA catch them anyway.

        • xpmule

          I don’t think it reduces speeds and i have never seen or heard of a tracker on the list and if it was simply report it and it will be removed. If if it was a problem people would complain on torrent comments that they can’t connect and yet for some strange reason i have seen not 1 complaint in a decade lol
          You said it offers no protection ?
          i do NOT believe this is true at all !
          And THAT is my point.. *some protection is better than none.. do you lock your doors at night ?
          Any protection system is neutered anyway so that is bullshit.. i know hackers that take million dollar companies at will and i have a decades worth of p2p software programming and cracking experience so i’m not a noob ;)
          Kinda funny how Peerblock is such a big problem yet i don’t see anyone bitching about the auto updater code i put in “xpmule” taken from the (Morph XT mod) it uses IPFilter.dat and so does uTorrent etc.. and that IS the same list used as the default on PB basically.

          Anyway i sincerely believe there is a lot of false info out there when it comes to PB and i encourage people to research and come to their own conclusions EVEN if that means you think i am full of shit lol

        • Clownius

          On the lock my doors question the answer is almost never but thats down to where i live.

          But to be honest if i lived in such an are where locking my doors was advisable i would probably need to consider something like an alarm, security guard or a guard dog. Some of which would mean locking my doors would be pointless.

          But we all know analogies suck anyway. SO i will leave this alone now.

          P.S A very popular Adult tracker was on the block lists recently. It was due to the fact they used a temporary hosted server in a major French datacentre while their normal one was out for repairs. A lot of users complained that the tracker was down. The problem in the end was PB.

          That datacentre probably contained a good percentage of the worlds seedboxes at the time. So blocking it was rather harmful.

          In the end the only solution was turn of PB until they moved back to their normal server or to not use the P2P list.

          A popular VPN with torrenters was also blocked last time i checked. Try as they may they couldnt get off the list. I believe a Seedbox provider also tried it once but my memory is fuzzy on that one. Again gave up as there seems to be no real system to remove IP’s. hence the list will soon cover the entire IPv4 space at the rate its growing.

          I advise people to go through the list some time and ask why is this IP blocked. The answer is generally no one knows.

          Number of IPs: 828546459

          Thats just the level 1 blocklist!

          The comments here are great

          http://www.iblocklist.com/list.php?list=bt_level1

          Block a VPN, online game servers…. Thats just the first few posts.

  • aFriendlyTroll

    Long live soulseek!

  • Guest

    >“These sites exploit artists

    Hello, pot? This is kettle. You’re black.

  • TheGuardian

    How wood I search for Just In Bee Beer then?

  • Mr_Stelio_Kontos

    As a UK citizen, the BPI are frankly a f*cking national embarrassment!

    How stupid one organisation can get is yet to be seen.

    What sort of response are they expecting from torrent sites outside of UK judicial jurisdiction – apart from the blunt, four letter kind ending in off?

    • Guest

      Oh, Mr. Kontos.

      Could you perhaps beat up the BPI after school for us?

  • bobmail

    I love the signature. Are we really suppose to buy this as real?

    • Slashfund

      Haha, they had each executive write one letter (they all have the same handwriting style because they soulless drones)

      • xpmule

        chicken shits hide and won’t provide their names..

  • Guest

    Remove magnet links?

    Just shutdown the whole Internet.

    • Violated0

      Well they did not say anything about removing hash keys my most popular method once the torrent client is already open.

      It would be humorous to think that maybe the BPI realise that they can’t own numbers but then it is not like the laws of nature would slow their enforcement desires.

  • Guest

    “They also inhibit the development of legitimate services”

    Why don’t you just provide a better service then?

    • Guest

      >They also inhibit the development of legitimate services

      Which are…?

      • FerkinMerkins

        Precisely what I was thinking. Where are these amazing ‘legitimate services’ they keep talking about? Give us some links so we can have a look. If they’re any good we might buy something. As it is, they’re not even telling us what or where their ‘legitimate services’ are so we don’t have the option to use them.

        I’ve tried using Google, but their poor SEO means they’re not even in the top results. I mean, how hard can it be if low and no-budget sharing sites can do it DIY style?

    • xpmule

      boo hoo the competition must be made illegal because they are stealing my revenues :(

  • RIAAtarded

    Out of curiosity why is the document signed by BPI anti-piracy unit? Signature line is for the individual sending it an entity doesn’t have a signature. Could it be because the actions of BPI no one wants to claim? Plus this is a stupid idea the music biz doesn’t own words language belongs to everyone so they can go pound sound.

  • Sh!7

    So… what is up with these trolls flooding TF comment sections with their “anti-freetard” agenda? Is their Overlord Chris Dodd not granting them the pleasure of his dick? Did they ran out of low-fat Chris Dodd cream? Or just trolling because they are bored?

    • Sh!7

      Hey OverGAYlord thanks for downvoting me.

      xD always happy to see haters cry.

      Just proves my point.
      Rage on fatbuddy.

      • Guest

        It’s just BPI employees downvoting everybody.

        Just ignore them and maybe they’ll get bored and go away.

      • YourAmericanOverlord

        LOL, “not me precious e-rep! Noooooo!”
        *sniffsniff* “I been downvoted.”

        :-(

        Pussyhole.

        • xpmule

          i will make sure to make your life a miserable nightmare for life.. i am not going anywhere and you can not stop me and i will go to another web site if you take one down.

          AND i like Marilyn Manson and Rutracker because i am hardcore ;)

          What are you go do about it ?

        • YourAmericanOverlord

          Must be a real peach IRL.
          Your ignorance is it’s own punishment. Fair thee well.

    • Clownius

      Oh we have some stupid trolls of recent. Hopefully they get B& soon.

    • Guest

      I think the MAFIAA shills glimpsed to futility of the work before them and their minds cracked.

  • Guest

    >“If we do not hear from you by 8 July 2013

    How will they know if you receive the letter?

    My Dad lives in Wales, for example, and his mail gets stolen by the postal workers most of the time.

  • anonymous

    this must surely have been expected! the problem with it, as the BPI well know, is that it will never work! there have been court cases over this, Google itself has tried it and ISOHunt is still fighting against it, because it doesn’t work! the threat the BPI issues needs to be tested! if they think it is so easy to implement, why do they think it isn’t in force everywhere already? plus, what is also needed, is the ability for any and all sites that get blocked, through no fault of their own, simply because of the filter that the BPI want implemented, to take court actions of their own against the BPI. as usual, the BPI will expect it to happen at everyone else expense. as usual they wont give a toss at who else gets hit, as long as their stuff isn’t showing. inevitably though, this will fail. this coalition government needs to start doing things for the people, instead of just catering for businesses, especially the entertainment industries. they are getting no more thought of for being the USA bitch! they are being no more thought of for continuously outlawing people. whoever is getting the backhander from the industries needs exposing and made accountable. trying to take over for where the USA has been forced to stop isn’t doing them any favours either!!

    • Clownius

      Hopefully the UK public remembers this come election time. The country is in serious economic trouble, services all over are getting cut etc

      But hey we have the money for a police unit to represent Big Media. Sorry your family member got beaten and robbed as there was no budget for the police to patrol your street….

      Give the PP a nice large vote and watch them shit themselves.

  • ohio playa

    this shit is so funny. I don’t get how people think its harder to share now. I keep doing the same shit ive been doing forever…….. dcm what?

    • Gear Mentation

      The same shit? Gnutella is dead, Usenet is dieing. Torrenting safely requires a VPN. The same shit doesn’t work. However, pirating now is much easier and gives much nicer results than it used to.

      • FerkinMerkins

        IRC didn’t go anywhere…

      • xpmule

        The following still work the same or better..

        Torrents:
        We have better clients that can handle corruption and auto ban people. We have Peerblock lists and VPN’s and TOR browser and proxies to access sites. We also have protocol encryption too.

        eMule:
        KAD / Encryption and the same site access abilities..
        An open source client so people can make their own Mods such as “xpMule” ;)

        IRC:
        Nothing changed.. Still works.

        HTTP:
        New file locker services pop faster than they can take them down and the same for sites that post the links..

        News Groups:
        Still running and have modern sites access features such as proxies etc.

        DC++
        still runnin..

        get the idea ?

        • Gear Mentation

          Thx, downloading DC++ for linux.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Err…

        Points of note:

        BearShare, gtk-gnutella, LimeWire Pirate Edition all still use the Gnutella protocol.

        The reason it doesn’t see much use is simple – torrents are more efficient, and Gnutella is a second-generation protocol. Hence surpassed by Gnutella DHT, Retroshare, KAD/eMule, and so on.

        Usenet is dying…how? No, seriously. So far what the MPAA/RIAA have accomplished amounts to dropping a single sandbag in the way of a tsunami.

        Torrenting being online safely requires a VPN”

        Fixed that for you. A VPN is relevant no matter WHAT you do online, unless you want an auto-generated sociogram of yourself made, stored, and classified by a dozen intelligence agencies and a few hundred marketing companies.

        • Gear Mentation

          I don’t care. I don’t use a VPN most of the time. If they go and collect useless data that is just them using up resources for nothing. I haven’t clicked an online advert -not that I see many what with adblock and flashblock- in years. I stopped using gnutella because it didn’t have what I wanted, and stopped using Usenet because on my connection the movies and TV got taken down before I could get them on Astraweb.

  • SeedtillIdie+FewDays

    The Blithering. Pillock. Idiots. are scared of people pirating/sharing/sampling their so called music and finding out that most of its generic, soulless factory produced shiiit not worth buying at any price especially at artificially high monopolistic prices with artificial restrictions.

  • MakedMan

    No infringing material is on the sites nor uploaded to them. So they are not liable for copyright infringement.

    • Violated0

      Very true when BT sites are much like a telephone directory.

  • anon

    As the owner of a fairly large well known tracker, they’ll get a big fuck off from me!!

    • xpmule

      i almost wish i had one so i could tell em to fuck off too and post their response publicly like on TPB’s Legal page lol

  • jimbo

    i read where Lord Young is behind the extreme measures being taken, stating that the music business is worth £36billion and employes 1.5million people. what he is careful not to say is how much of that money and how many of those jobs are from UK. any idiot would know that these figures are as bogus as everything else the BPI puts out and also how scared they are of using genuine, independent figures. the things that are never included in any of these statements are the damage done to all the other businesses caught up in these ‘actions’ and how there is never any suitable, legal alternatives. the ones the industry does put out are absolute shite! slow speed, single format, full of DRM, late releasing new tunes, you name, they fuck up! then add in the real reason for all the surveillance being implemented on the ‘net, so the government can just spy on everyone, and you have the whole story of why the BPI is so keen on getting all this stuff running. i am waiting to see what happens when the BPI tries to get a site blocked or shut down that is in another country. that could prove interesting!!

    • Violated0

      Then figures that you quote are already well proven lies but they are still often stated as facts when big numbers sound more horrific than little numbers.

      23 billion people would agree.

  • VIP@ThePirateBay.sx

    Hey BPI FUCK YOU and the UK!!! My associates and I aren’t removing anything so go fuck yourselves you fucking faggots with President Nigger’s big black dick bitches.

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  • guest

    The letter does not show who the person is that the BPI is contacting and NOR does it mention the name of the website to which the BPI are complaining about infringement. I do think that this letter will not stand up as evidence as proof that the BPI contacted the person and i also think think that it will not stand either as to BPI notifying the website of infringement when they do not mention the name of the website that is participating in infringement. The court will no doubt say that without naming the person and the website then the letter fails to prove that you contacted the person or website about the infringement.

    • Violated0

      TF usually always censor out site names and personal contact details to ensure their privacy and anonymity.

      Not doing so would allow the BPI and other media organizations to be aware of successful delivery helping to scale up attacks.

      You can rest assured that the original letter would bare the recipient’s details making this legally binding… even if complete nonsense.

  • him

    if it didn’t hurt so much, i would be rolling on the floor in hysterics! Mr Taylor, i can honestly see why they put you in charge. you have got about as much brains as the industry in general, ie , none! it would make absolutely no difference what so ever if the slope was so much in your favour, you still couldn’t compete with ‘alternative sites’, in fact, if you were to compete with yourself, you would still fucking lose! you have no intention whatsoever of competing! you intend to try to lock stuff down so much, no one will be able to get it from anywhere! the legal services you offer atm are so fucking useless, no one bothers with them, they are as expensive as buying a disk. who in their right mind is going to pay the same amount for a download that they have to do the rest to, get no disk, no case, no art work, nothing! as for a business model, you couldn’t organise a fuck in a whore house! all you twats are going to do is drive the whole thing underground. people will go back to swopping files manually. you are not going to win this battle! which bit of that dont you understand? you dont own the internet, you dont own people (the prats that were stupid enough to sign with an industry like yours excluded) and you wont stop sharing. do what people want and you have a chance, if not, you will fail!! and whoever the person is that is priming you to do this is as big a fucking prick as you are for thinking it will do any good!!

    • MadAsASnake

      Yes. Claiming that letter as specific knowledge of infringing works is just about as funny as “downloading funds terrorism”.

  • Foff

    Music Biz go fuck yourself. After downloading and never listening to gigs and gigs of music from about every genre I like I don’t download much music anymore. It is easier to go to youtube then to search for the music on my hard drives.

    I have 4 teens and none of them buy music. They have a hard time using an itunes card when they get one. None of my kids are really down loaders. Except for an occasional mp3 they are not interested in downloading most electronic media. They all have computers and spend ample time on social network sites and some streaming sites. We have not had cable in years so my kids and I have a very short list of shows we enjoy.

    My point is that the youth are so distracted with the many forms of electronic media that music only represents a small part of their entertainment. In my day and age from vinyl through dvd’s we all dreamed of owning or a large music library. Then came prerecorded movies and the idea of collecting a few seemed intriguing.

    Now however we find that with so many movies coming out old movies hold little attraction. Tv shows can be streamed or downloaded. Sites like netflix eliminate the need to waste disk space on old crap.

    My point is filtering and other forms of fighting infringement are completely missing the point. No amount of fight will stop a changing market, with or without copyright infringement sales of prerecorded media is a dying market.

  • 9o0

    Like with Veoh, the copyright industry basically says: “Do what we say, or we’ll destroy you ‐ whether you’re doing things legal or not.”

  • Violated0

    The BPI is sure badly wrong on this one when as confirmed by EU courts sites have no lawful obligation to install a key word filter.

    Second while media hash keys provide precise identification of ingfringing media then key word filters would only lead to vast censorship of fully innocent media. The BPI of course care none about vast collateral damage as seen from their site blocks.

    Third a key word filter would do little to stop infringement when pirates could still upload infringing media using modified or encrypted names creating a cat and mouse game scaling collateral damage until every word, letter and number is being filtered.

    Fourth the BPI are not follow the law that exist when by not specifying the web pages of infringing media then the BPI are NOT WANTING media removal.

    Not to forget the take-down policies on BT sites are voluntary agreements with NO OBLIGATION under the law meaning the BPI only insult the

  • Dariusz G. Jagielski

    BPI was hurt in its head in its infancy. They may demand anything, they’ll get nothing. Frankly they are behaving like 5 year old child. Or Wario and Waluigi.

  • Arr-Matey

    “They don’t like torrent sites – fine, we don’t like their ‘music’”
    That made me laugh. Almost as much as the farce that is BPI’s new strong-arm tactic. I very much doubt that they have any grounds for legal action if their demands are ignored. All current takedown processes involve providing proof, usually in the form of a URL, of a site’s infringement. Torrent file hosting gives the site in question even more legal grey area, since cases have already been won with the defence that a torrent file (as opposed to the data said file references) is NOT copyrighted data, and therefore no infringement took place.
    Bottom line is: as long as the recording industry insists on using their archaic business models, piracy is going to continue. It has been proven many times that piracy is not having a measureable effect on sales, while rising prices are having a dramatic effect. Stop trying to block progress, and just get with the 21st century, already! Or, continue with your ‘grab as much as you can before its gone’ plan, and in the end, it will be gone, just as planned.
    One Man’s Opinion.

  • Aussie_Knight

    Download music from torrents is becoming really a pain. We have music services e.g Spotify, Rdio. google music service and few others. Very rarely do I download from torrents anymore. Anyone else?

    • BentDover

      I can’t keep local copies for offline listening with purely streaming services though, so they’re not really a suitable replacement. If I could download all my playlists to my local drives/devices for when I’m off-grid then that’d be acceptable. I’d probably even pay for a subscription.

      • Aussie_Knight

        I use Spotify and I can save playlist’s for offline use.

      • oneworld

        Soon local copies and streaming music will one in the same. This wont even be thought of in the coming years.

    • xpmule

      i exercise multiple options simultaneously such as file lockers + torrents.. just depends on my mood and how fast i want something.. the options are endless really.

      streaming though is useless to me.

  • RiffHiff

    lol, looks like those idiots at BPI have WAY too much spare time on their hands.

    World-Privacy.com

  • guest

    Excuse me, BPI? Could you please save your pranks for April Fools Day? …what? It wasn’t a joke? Now THAT’s funny!

  • tonyj

    First of all, who’s downloading this crappy music in the first place, second, there is plenty of free music on the internet. Bands new and old are just dying to get you to download their music, listening to their music means free exposure, a chance for them to get a greater following, more attendance at their concerts.

  • thisguy1337

    No No sir you have that all wrong, let me put it how your blind eyes see it.

    “These sites FREELY PROMOTE artists’ work without CHARGING THEM and LAUGH AT the massive GREED that labels make bringing FILTERED music to
    fans,” BPI’s Chief Executive Geoff Taylor tells TorrentFreak.”

    Mr. BPI’s Chief Executive Geoff Taylor, A big fuck you for you.

  • Anonymous Network

    About time the BPI shut the fuck up!

  • oneworld

    Or else what? If there was anything that BPI could do they would have done it already without any discussion. ROFL “We have carried out tests ” WTF are you talking about. All you have to do is go and type text into their search box… Hardly considered a test. This goes to show everyone how DUMB these people are… If this is considered a “test” then no one has anything to worry about… Bloody Morons

  • oneworld

    Something a little far fetched but… here it is nonetheless. Being that 1′s and 0′s is the “Universal Language”. A language that every intellectual species soon discovers… (Yes worlds proven to exist beyond our own). I am absolutely sure that this problem has occurred in many of the vast civilizations of our galaxy. Strange hey… well not really… This problem likely has been dealt with before and… there is likely a solution to it… whether it be a complete reorganization or our rules of law… or a simple fix that we are just not seeing… But What we do need is to limit the casualties of all involved…. and the way BPI is handling it is not the way. Soften your words BPI and you may get results…

  • oneworld

    How about ask for a Banner ads on the torrent sites suggesting legal alternatives. I know people who buys the cds of their favorite artists just for the artwork…. Now that sells.. damb rights… Give us something along with the movies and music cds… and watch your sales skyrocket… Mention them in the banner ads and you will do well…

    • oneworld

      Gees do we here @ TF have to come up with your sales strategies…

    • oneworld

      LOL at very least BPI did open the lines of communication… although a real pissy wording.

  • Lolbpi

    I know what my reply would be. Show me the injured party and show me you have consent to act on their behalf and I will gladly comply please also show me the specific law that I’m breaking. Then sit back, laugh and receive no further letters. Their threats are well….threats and really they have no leg to stand on why do you think they aren’t just taking people to court first.

  • xpmule

    A Message from Canada BPI

    • YourAmericanOverlord

      Do you ever realize how sad and lonely you come off as? Really… it’s embarrassing.

    • djnforce9

      That message really should be given to the entire MAFIAA. They are parasites that eat away at our rights and freedoms.

  • BPI-EBER?

    BPI claim ownership of Justin Bieber, that well known UK? singer

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  • Wormlore

    “They also inhibit the development of legitimate services, which need a level playing field to grow.”

    Well, for all I can see, the ones who inhibit the growth of “legitimate services” the most are the lobby groups and their members, way before the “pirate” sites or distribution channels.
    - Limitations in time (“new” legit downloads match things that went out months, sometimes years ago)
    - Limitations by country (why does Netflix catalog include many more titles in US than any other country?)
    - Ease of access (varies greatly, but the DRM are often flawed)

    - Price range (then again, varies greatly)
    All of these because of the conditions they impose, which in turns limits the number of entrepreneurs willing to try a new business model.

  • Shinzok

    OMG , find other ways to make your money , you greedy idiots. your business model = outdated.

    Let artists go back to touring. That how the made money 50 years ago. and it still works.

    Just stop your unfounded idiot pursuits against file-shares. The internet was designed to be a global file-sharing entity. SO STOP TRYING TO PREVENT US FROM USING IT LIKE IT WAS MENT TO BE.

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