Episode 71

Jeff Atwood and Joel Spolsky

108 minutes, 49.6mb, recorded 2009-10-19
Jeff Atwood and Joel Spolsky

A collection of clips recorded at the San Francisco DevDays conference, including Joel Spolsky, Mark Harrison, Jeff Atwood, Scott Hanselman and Rory Blythe. This episode runs a bit longer than usual.

  • Joel Spolsky on web usability
  • Mark Harrison on Python and the Norvig spell checker
  • Rory Blythe on iPhone development
  • Scott Hanselman on ASP.NET MVC 2.0
  • Jeff Atwood on Stack Overflow
  • Ad-hoc roundtable podcast with Scott, Rory, Joel, and Jeff backstage at DevDays. Warning: extreme ramblosity ahead!
  • Joel explains his Duct Tape Programmer post. Apparently DevDays is a duct tape conference, and this section of the recording is a duct tape podcast.
  • Some discussion of the ubiquity of mobile code. Also, if you are nostalgic for the era "when development was hard", the consensus is that you should be doing mobile development today on iPhone, Android, Windows Mobile, or Symbian.
  • Rory elaborates on his experience with (and effusive opinions on) iPhone development to date. Is coding in Objective-C best accompanied by a flux capacitor, New Coke, and Max Headroom? Also, his excitement for MonoTouch.
  • Joel and Scott put on their amateur language designer hats and have a spirited discussion of type inference and Fog Creek's in-house DSL, Wasabi.
  • Scott covers some of the highlights of new and shiny features coming in the Visual Studio 2010 IDE, the C# 4.0 language, and the ASP.NET MVC 2.0 web framework.

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