Media Search

A Panel Discussion

SDForum's SearchSIG
71 minutes, 32.7mb, recorded 2005-09-14
Kaye, Karnes, Rice and Williams
Currently, there are thousands of individual podcasts available, and this is in addition to a vast quantity of other audio and video content available on the internet. If you want to find a program that interests you, where can you go? Between directories, search engines and word of mouth recommendations, it can be difficult to navigate the sea of information available.

Doug Kaye of IT Conversations talks with Evan Williams of ODEO, David Marks of Loomia, Eric Rice of Audioblog and Jeff Karnes of Yahoo! at SDForum about the various technologies being employed in audio search. Some search options rely on metadata such as ID3 tags, while others use complex technology to actually search the audio itself. Work is continuing to make searching audio as simple as searching text, but the challenges are significant.

Compared to scanning written content, it takes longer to review an audio or video file to see if you actually are interested. From a different perspective, many content producers often are not aware of the ways they can make their content "searchable" due to the variety of search and directory systems being used. As search technology progresses, however, many of these challenges will be met and finding the content you want will become easier.

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Doug Kaye is IT Conversations' original host, producer, developer, writer, interviewer and engineer. He launched IT Conversations in June 2003 and still produces many of the site's programs. In what seems to him like a previous lifetime, Doug was a recording engineer and sound editor in film and television. After mixing one too many TV commercials and English dubs of Lina Wertmuller films he made a break to the software industry. After another 18 years as an IT entrepreneur/CEO, he successfully worked his way down the corporate ladder and served as CTO/VP Engineering of four dot-com startups: one successful IPO, two shutdowns, one still on life support.

Jeff Karnes is Yahoo!'s director of media search. Previously, he was Vice President of Product Marketing at Virage, a video and media communications software product company.

An advocate of standards-based development and Web 2.0 services, David Marks leads Loomia's product development efforts. David has led technical teams and developed strategic software solutions for over 10 years. David was a founding member, architect and product manager of Modulant Solutions, a semantics-based technology provider. David has also created technical solutions for Fortune 500 companies as a principal engineer at Vivid Studios, which was acquired by Modem Media in 2000. Most recently, David was responsible for directing implementation of community and fundraising tools for the Kucinich for President Campaign. David studied Computer Science at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst.

Eric Rice is one of the world's leading experts in consumer generated media, particularly in podcasting and videoblogging. As co-founder of, Rice's goal is to bring solid tools to enable everyone to create personalized or business media. As chief evangelist for, Rice travels around the country to explain the values and simplicity of podcasting and videoblogging to the masses. Concurrently, Rice is the founder and executive producer of Slackstreet Entertainment, a holding company for podcast and videoblog consulting and products. Slackstreet is the home of the KSSX network, Backstaging, Everyday Films, The Eric Rice Show, among others.

Evan Williams is currently co-founder and CEO of Odeo, Inc., a new startup aimed at bringing podcasting to the masses. In 1999, Williams co-founded Pyra Labs and helped create Blogger, the web application that pioneered and helped define the blogging phenomenon. In early 2003, Williams sold Pyra Labs to Google, where he served as a product and engineering manager until October 2004. Prior to Pyra, in 1994, Williams started an early Internet company in Nebraska, his native state, and later worked for O'Reilly & Associates, Intel, and HP as a web application developer.


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For Team ITC:

  • Description editor: Darusha Wehm
  • Recording audio engineer: John Furrier
  • Post-production audio engineer: George Hawthorne

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