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Opera 17 Next

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As the Opera rapid release cycle beds down, today we're promoting Opera 17 from the Developer channel (highly experimental) to the Next channel, which is our feature-complete line and the last stage before being released to the world as the stable product.

Besides bugfixes, the highlight of things of this Opera 17 Next release:

  • More settings and preferences, like startup handling options, manage search engines,
  • Pinned tabs,
  • DPI aware on Windows,
  • Enhanced extensions APIs and possibility to hide extensions buttons.

We read all your bug reports and feedback (thanks a million for giving it to us). We've decided to postpone Quick Access Bar as it still needs some tweaking and bug fixing. Synchronization can't yet be turned on while we finalise the server-side support and add support for more data types in the browser.
Of course, you will find all the feature switches in opera:flags

Opera 18 Developer should be released very soon. Besides Quick Access Bar, Synchronization, you should soon see further work in the area of tabs handling improvements, better autofill, themes, addressbar improvements and many others.
Thanks in advance for your bug reports and comments. To save some of you a little trouble, there is no Linux release of Opera 17, but there will be Opera for Linux.
Full changelog (since last Opera Next)

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Comments

Zdenko Timulakzdenotim Friday, September 6, 2013 12:37:06 PM

in which version do you plan to add also tab stacking?

Raul Hernandezelwallyhdez Friday, September 6, 2013 12:38:43 PM

THZ love

QuHno Friday, September 6, 2013 12:42:43 PM

... can't sett my own search engine as default:
http://www.google.com/custom?client=opera&q=%s&btnG=Search&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Jérémie Durandjeremiedurand Friday, September 6, 2013 12:43:15 PM

Thank you for the update. I really enjoy this new generation of Opera - and I have been using exclusively Opera since the 8 version, so even long-time users can love the chromium based Opera.

In fact some friends of mine who had recently dropped Opera for Chrome or Firefox, because they were tired of compatibility problems with some sites, just came back to Opera thanks to this new generation, and like me they really enjoy it.

So, keep up your excellent work ! yes

PiMoz Friday, September 6, 2013 12:44:20 PM

"We've decided to postpone Quick Access Bar as it still needs some tweaking and bug fixing."

cry

Mağruf ÇolakoğluZAHEK Friday, September 6, 2013 12:44:24 PM

Does anyone change defaulted search engines on settings page? Just one option to make them default but no other option?

kangarrou Friday, September 6, 2013 12:44:58 PM

DNA-10276 Bookmarks in folders in Quick Access Bar shouldn't have context menu

What's this? Are you serious??

Christophchristoph142 Friday, September 6, 2013 12:45:53 PM

Originally posted by Blazej:

DNA-8441 Email is being reproduced two or three times from my imap inbox account. Other IMAP folders are not affected. The client shows synchronising headers, and then duplicates or triplicates the entries.

Doesn't this belong to Opera Mail...?! confused

Владимир Назаровirdose7 Friday, September 6, 2013 12:47:48 PM

Opera 18 Developer should be released very soon. Besides Quick Access Bar, Synchronization, you should soon see further work in the area of tabs handling improvements, better autofill, themes, addressbar improvements and many others.
How much do you have promised!

Elzo Lubberselzolubbers Friday, September 6, 2013 12:54:14 PM

Thanks for the update. I have been using opera next besides the version 12 release. I have been waiting for two things before I can make the new version my default browser. History and the ability to set search engines.

So far there seems to be a bug in the search engine settings. I can adjust the "Other" search engines, but not the "Default" search engine. So for me that means I can't set [y] for youtube.

Michael Maierschwiebie Friday, September 6, 2013 12:58:10 PM

"We've decided to postpone Quick Access Bar as it still needs some tweaking and bug fixing."
So no bookmarks in Opera stable before Opera 18 which will be released in about two or three months?

Fhury Friday, September 6, 2013 1:01:17 PM

Thanks for the update. Do you have any news on the possibility to import bookmarks without Opera 12 profile. So a way to use the exported bookmark file from Opera 12 or the bookmarks.adr file direct. I understand that it is now more a Opera 18 matter, but a little info would be welcome smile

Christophchristoph142 Friday, September 6, 2013 1:01:25 PM

Originally posted by schwiebie:

no bookmarks in Opera stable before Opera 18 [...]?

Well, the API is supported. Just no QAB

anikulanikul49 Friday, September 6, 2013 1:04:08 PM

30.0.1599.22 Chrome was released on Aug 28, 2013 and latest beta is 30.0.1599.28, released on Sept 4, 2013.


Why you guys are so much behind Chrome release cycle??? considering Opera Developer Team size has increased lately. irked

ClashCityRockerclashcityrocker Friday, September 6, 2013 1:05:00 PM

Originally posted by PiMoz:

We've decided to postpone Quick Access Bar as it still needs some tweaking and bug fixing."



It will be in Developer 18 soon. The rapid release cycle means it's not ready for prime-time, so it's been bumped to 18. I can't see how this is a big deal? You were on Developer 17 until yesterday with it... And now you will be on Develoepr 18 with it.

It only really has an impact for an end user that only uses Next or Release builds.

LeoCG Friday, September 6, 2013 1:08:36 PM

Originally posted by zdenotim:

in which version do you plan to add also tab stacking?



It will not come back soon: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/79673262?startidx=150#comment110836662

Carachcarachcze Friday, September 6, 2013 1:09:11 PM

Thank you very much. Really appreciated smile

Anatoliymingtom Friday, September 6, 2013 1:09:54 PM

> Thanks in advance for your bug reports and comments. To save some of you a little trouble, there is no Linux release of Opera 17, but there will be Opera for Linux.

eee "linux"
i see this word in this news

LeoCG Friday, September 6, 2013 1:09:58 PM

Originally posted by PiMoz:

"We've decided to postpone Quick Access Bar as it still needs some tweaking and bug fixing."

cry

You can enable it on opera:flags and thne on settings but beware that it may not work well.

LeoCG Friday, September 6, 2013 1:12:13 PM

Originally posted by schwiebie:

"We've decided to postpone Quick Access Bar as it still needs some tweaking and bug fixing."
So no bookmarks in Opera stable before Opera 18 which will be released in about two or three months?



More likely one and a half.

Also, you can enable QAB if you want.

Ser2k2 Friday, September 6, 2013 1:33:05 PM

Can you put an option to block the pop-pup links from opera history?, instead of selecting the page, copy the link and put it on Pop-pup Blocker.

Can someone explain me why opera have so many opera.exe*32 on windows task manager process?yikes

Blazej Kazmierczakbkazmierczak Friday, September 6, 2013 1:44:04 PM

Originally posted by jeremiedurand:

In fact some friends of mine who had recently dropped Opera for Chrome or Firefox, because they were tired of compatibility problems with some sites, just came back to Opera thanks to this new generation, and like me they really enjoy it.


We are glad to hear it.


Originally posted by Ser2k2:

Can someone explain me why opera have so many opera.exe*32 on windows task manager process?


This is called multi process application.


Originally posted by schwiebie:

So no bookmarks in Opera stable before Opera 18 which will be released in about two or three months?


Yes and no.

Yes, as you can turn QAB ON in opera:flags in Next now and you will be able to do it in Opera 17 final.

No, as only turned-on-features stability fixes are ported to Next stream, so bigger QAB changes are expected in Developer stream.

IusedtobeOOlli91 Friday, September 6, 2013 1:48:49 PM

So still no visual tabs, although announced for 17.

D1sasterp1ece Friday, September 6, 2013 1:50:42 PM

All missing features aside, pinned tabs could not be moved around like they can in Opera 12.

WBzardoz7 Friday, September 6, 2013 1:53:22 PM

Thanks for the new version, I hope it goes stable soon. smile

"Unpin tab" wasn't translated for portuguese yet. Can anyone confirm if it's the same for other languages?
Is everybody aware of this?

Mağruf ÇolakoğluZAHEK Friday, September 6, 2013 1:57:35 PM

I have added few time but no reply yet smile
Could you please add "Disable " option in extension toolbar context menu...

berend ytsmaytsmabeer Friday, September 6, 2013 2:04:03 PM

Originally posted by zardoz7:

Thanks for the new version, I hope it goes stable soon.

"Unpin tab" wasn't translated for portuguese yet. Can anyone confirm if it's the same for other languages?
Is everybody aware of this?


Translations has just started yet, so it's not translated in any language

Marcin Mitekmmitek Friday, September 6, 2013 2:12:56 PM

Originally posted by christoph142:

DNA-8441



Good catch, bot picked up wrong bug. Should be DNA-8411 (Create FavoriteCollectionView adapter - WP1 - infrastructure)

Yarzielyarziel Friday, September 6, 2013 2:16:27 PM

Testing.. party

Ja`Nusz WuPLUser Friday, September 6, 2013 2:25:38 PM

This Opera still don't correctly service REFERER.
After sending form when server asking about $_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER'] (php) browser give empty string. ALL over browsers work correctly.
I hope that you fix it as soon as possible.

Win32 XP SP3

Dexter Livingstonstripclubdj Friday, September 6, 2013 2:29:48 PM

Wow! Great work guys! Testing!.. heart

Enelenareebcomputer Friday, September 6, 2013 2:58:11 PM

Finally a Opera next 17 version!!! bigsmile
At last able to use all bookmarks from something...well QAB. It may not be much, but it's a start.smile
Though having to click twice to change folders on QAB was too much of a drag.
Also it would be nice if there was a keyboard shortcut to enable and disable QAB, would help save precious vertical space.

Also, enabling smooth scrolling changes the behaviour of scrolling through HOME and END buttons, changing them to a slow scroll rather than instantaneous.

Anyway, the browser is really fast now, and doesn't hang, so kudos for that.pirate

nonreturntozero Friday, September 6, 2013 3:00:29 PM

Unless bookmarks and Link are fully supported and stable, I'm afraid I will have to stick to 12.16.

I am still flabbergasted that apparently market research showed that users do not need bookmarks or synchronization and these features were dropped - they are literally the *only* reason I use Opera!

minho Friday, September 6, 2013 3:04:32 PM

"Opera 18 Developer should be released very soon."

Waiting... wait
chropera 17 is one more unusable release for me.

thany Friday, September 6, 2013 3:06:48 PM

Originally posted by nonreturntozero:

Unless bookmarks and Link are fully supported and stable, I'm afraid I will have to stick to 12.16.

I am still flabbergasted that apparently market research showed that users do not need bookmarks or synchronization and these features were dropped - they are literally the *only* reason I use Opera!

Agreed. Noone with a straight face can call a browser with no bookmarks feature a browser.

Ghirahimghirahim Friday, September 6, 2013 3:16:18 PM

Opera 18 today or next week?

hectormaciasa79 Friday, September 6, 2013 3:18:37 PM

Im considering switching over from Win 7 to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, I hope Opera is available for Linux by then.

19 or 20 probably.

olli Friday, September 6, 2013 3:24:35 PM

Originally posted by ghirahim:

Opera 18 today or next week?




Hopefully next week yes

senseysensor Friday, September 6, 2013 3:25:56 PM

what a huge changelog smile
cannot wait for vertical tabs and last used tab... (still am on 12 version because of that)

ahoj1234 Friday, September 6, 2013 3:33:14 PM

Originally posted by senseysensor:

what a huge changelog


well, indeed... I would like to see a changelog last Opera 17 dev -> Opera 17 Next (this). We got 016Next -> O17Next but still better than nothing smile

in other way... not a lot to say... (because of I'm testing DEV and confirming bug in Next...)

nimu_channimuchan Friday, September 6, 2013 3:36:28 PM

Thank you very much!!smile

Ericheavensrevenge Friday, September 6, 2013 3:36:31 PM

Opera guys... just because you said we'd get bookmarks to stop us breathing fire down your necks, doesn't mean that because we've stopped, it's OK to delay/not focus on bookmarks.
We have all shut up in very anxious hope for them, so diverging in any way off of Bookmarks just because we're not all bitching about it so hard is not reasonable.

Bookmarks... stop trying to pussyfoot around the issue, because putting a UI on that QAB JSON file shouldn't be so hard or too much effort in an OFFICIAL way or at least recommend a extension that communicates with the QAB JSON file.

LeonardoN Friday, September 6, 2013 3:39:27 PM

I don't know if this bug was reported previously. The m letter of the word "Zoom" looks "incomplete". I think this image explains the bug much better than my words bigsmile :

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6106/b7eu.png

Windows XP - USB installation - Latest version

Thanks up

Alacran Friday, September 6, 2013 3:49:52 PM

Stumped to see that again no bookmark support was added.
I have hundreds of bookmarks in my old O12 profile, and there is no possible way of getting them transfered to O17 Next.
I can't make O17 my everyday browser without my bookmarks.

Just like the rest of the guys, I don't understand how you can release a browser (be it dev or next channel) without any basic bookmark support?

Also wondering like the rest, how long is this going to take? Another four months?

Sincerely I'm about to give up on Opera. This is just impossible, can't work without my bookmarks!

D1sasterp1ece Friday, September 6, 2013 3:52:06 PM

Originally posted by LeonardoN:

I don't know if this bug was reported previously. The m letter of the word "Zoom" looks "incomplete". I think this image explains the bug much better than my words bigsmile :

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6106/b7eu.png

Windows XP - USB installation - Latest version

Thanks up

This is for me the least of a problem with XP. A bigger problem is Opera appearing in that ugly blue despite that my theme is black. It's like some weird inherited behaviour from Chromium.

Otto WasserfeldtmyOnno Friday, September 6, 2013 4:00:30 PM

Originally posted by QuHno:

... can't sett my own search engine as default:

MyOpera::Parse::BBCode::Tag=HASH(0x7fe01c372da8)]

Me too. I would like to set duckduckgo as my default search engine. And please: Is it possible to remove the google ad on start page?

Blazej Kazmierczakbkazmierczak Friday, September 6, 2013 4:08:28 PM

Originally posted by Alacran:

Just like the rest of the guys, I don't understand how you can release a browser (be it dev or next channel) without any basic bookmark support?


Since bookmarks support is important for many users, we have prioritized them as a top feature we work on.
Since we have different release cycle, we release what we have ready, thanks to which you don't have to wait unnecessary for the things we can already deliver.

Federico Panicofedemp Friday, September 6, 2013 4:14:40 PM

Meanwhile, I discovered Pentadactyl for Firefox. If you ever again release a version for Linux, let us know.

Saskatchewan Friday, September 6, 2013 4:16:00 PM

Originally posted by LeoCG:

Originally posted by schwiebie:

"We've decided to postpone Quick Access Bar as it still needs some tweaking and bug fixing."
So no bookmarks in Opera stable before Opera 18 which will be released in about two or three months?

More likely one and a half.

It took 8 weeks from Opera 15 to the release of O16. So, > 6 more weeks to the release of Opera 17 final + 8 weeks for Opera 18 final (with QAB) gives us 3 months and a half. Even if they speed up the release cycle I don't believe they could go below 6 weeks, which means: we have to wait at least 10 more weeks before bookmarks support is enabled by default in a stable Opera version.

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