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Opera 17 Next

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As the Opera rapid release cycle beds down, today we're promoting Opera 17 from the Developer channel (highly experimental) to the Next channel, which is our feature-complete line and the last stage before being released to the world as the stable product.

Besides bugfixes, the highlight of things of this Opera 17 Next release:

  • More settings and preferences, like startup handling options, manage search engines,
  • Pinned tabs,
  • DPI aware on Windows,
  • Enhanced extensions APIs and possibility to hide extensions buttons.

We read all your bug reports and feedback (thanks a million for giving it to us). We've decided to postpone Quick Access Bar as it still needs some tweaking and bug fixing. Synchronization can't yet be turned on while we finalise the server-side support and add support for more data types in the browser.
Of course, you will find all the feature switches in opera:flags

Opera 18 Developer should be released very soon. Besides Quick Access Bar, Synchronization, you should soon see further work in the area of tabs handling improvements, better autofill, themes, addressbar improvements and many others.
Thanks in advance for your bug reports and comments. To save some of you a little trouble, there is no Linux release of Opera 17, but there will be Opera for Linux.
Full changelog (since last Opera Next)

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Comments

klomar Friday, September 6, 2013 4:21:39 PM

Any news about Opera link? When will it come back with bookmars and password saved online so I don't have to memorize them on every pc I use?

scribeuk Friday, September 6, 2013 4:26:45 PM

Originally posted by kangarrou:

DNA-10276 Bookmarks in folders in Quick Access Bar shouldn't have context menu

What's this? Are you serious??



Agreed! - Why? To make life difficult perhaps?irked

ugly95 Friday, September 6, 2013 4:36:14 PM

Originally posted by Saskatchewan:

It took 8 weeks from Opera 15 to the release of O16. So, > 6 more weeks to the release of Opera 17 final + 8 weeks for Opera 18 final (with QAB) gives us 3 months and a half. Even if they speed up the release cycle I don't believe they could go below 6 weeks,


That's tough to say. Don't forget that a significant number of the team went on vacation right after Opera 15 was released. So we don't really have much of a history to base any predictions on how long it takes between releases. The time between O16 and O17 final will be a better guide.

Léon McGregorleonmcg Friday, September 6, 2013 4:38:59 PM

Originally posted by kangarrou:

DNA-10276 Bookmarks in folders in Quick Access Bar shouldn't have context menu

What's this? Are you serious??



What. *facepalms*. It's incredibly infuriating, having to deal with no context menus.

Ramseykal Friday, September 6, 2013 4:40:50 PM

Hi Opera team,
I was using the O16 Next and I'm on 17 Next now. I noticed since O16 that when I want to view an enlarged picture on GSMArena.com, it sometimes gives me an error of something like "image is too large to load" (paraphrasing). That doesn't happen on Firefox. However, it sometimes works, so I hope you can fix that.

Now for the more important comment: Can you please add a type of glow effect on pinned tabs when a new e-mail or message is received on Gmail and other e-mail websites? I have to constantly verify if I have a new e-mail since there's no color change when I do receive one.

I also suggest that you make the "Add" button on the Quick Access bar more faded out, such as a light grey since we won't be using it all the time. Also, it would be even better if you add drag and drop ability to add a new link to the Quick Access bar. That being said, that bar is working great for me, so far.

Thanks in advance and thanks for your hard work smile

Edit: Oh and, I'm always having trouble with off-road mode, it is not working correctly. It's either slower or gives me an error when loading a website.

Edit 2: Can you please give us the ability to close a pinned tab with middle click? And to reload any type of tab with a right click and clicking on a Reload or Refresh button?

NickName82 Friday, September 6, 2013 4:44:45 PM

Search costumization still doesn't really work. I don't want to have the english version of Google as "g". How can I change ist to german Google?

Paulo Aguiarpauloaguia Friday, September 6, 2013 4:46:27 PM

The Portuguese translation displays "Unpin tab", not translated. Also, I don't think in this case "Marcar" is the best translation for "Pin" - it's meaning is definitely not related to the action that is performed (Marcar translates in English to "mark" or "tag", not to "fixate"). Maybe "Fixar" would be a better one?

ayespy Friday, September 6, 2013 4:54:21 PM

So here is where my testing of 17 pretty much tails off. I almost never open the "Next" branch to do anything more than update it, as no "Next" version is yet capable enough to be a day-to-day browser for me. I suspect for the foreseeable future, the Developer branch will be the only one good enough to retain my interest - and it still won't get full time testing prior to full bookmarks and vertical tabs.

Ericheavensrevenge Friday, September 6, 2013 5:12:24 PM

Quick question opera devs: How can I override the new tab page?
In Chrome extension =
"chrome_url_overrides": {
"newtab": "newtab.html"
},
How can I override you? Because I can modify my version of a chrome extension ( https://github.com/heavensrevenge/speed-dial-chrome/ ) to make a graphical speed dial based bookmark manager.

Also how can I access your internal urls from an extension, for example:
opera://thumbnail/?size=800x600&pixel_ratio=1&make_persistent=0&update=1&url=http://distrowatch.com/ So I can use your built-in thumbnail creator if possible?

NeXaen Friday, September 6, 2013 5:16:20 PM

Would you please tell me the current stats of DNA-8537? It's reported many days age, but it's not fixed yet. Please follow the case and raise its priority if it's needed.

The problem is about split characters in RTL pages when dragging mouse pointer over them from right to left and returning.

See the movie linked below to find it out better: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74629435/Opera%20bug%20-%20gap%20RTL%20chars-.rar

Test page:
http://narenji.ir/19152-tiny-thief-lone-ranger-zombie-hq
http://www.zoomit.ir

All RTL pages are affected.

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L33t4operal33t4opera Friday, September 6, 2013 5:17:42 PM

Originally posted by ZAHEK:


up Thanks. Pls check this.
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/87068802?startidx=50#comment111829302

Hi Zahek,
I can't confirm the same issue, I can add many internal pages to the QAB (quick access bar), I can't add the "Speed Dial/opera:startpage" page only, for the time being.

Vadym Kyrylkovkirilkov Friday, September 6, 2013 5:21:08 PM

>More settings and preferences, like startup handling options, manage search engines

Still can't remove Search textbox from Speed-dial sad

Ralf BeckebansRabe85 Friday, September 6, 2013 5:23:43 PM

- I can't change the default search settings. For example: I want change the keyword of amazon to A and use Z for an own search engine.
- I can't make an own search engine as default.

s/ashslash4real Friday, September 6, 2013 5:27:14 PM

Judging by this - 1241, I guess it is an older branch vs 1246 Dev.

Waiting for Opera 18. wait

franspain Friday, September 6, 2013 5:28:16 PM

Where are the font settings??
They were in last opera 17 developer release bigeyes

Dierk HaasisEvo2Me Friday, September 6, 2013 5:29:37 PM

Am I overlooking something or isn't there a 'Find in page' search any more?

Paulo Aguiarpauloaguia Friday, September 6, 2013 5:30:22 PM

Originally posted by Ramseykal:

Now for the more important comment: Can you please add a type of glow effect on pinned tabs when a new e-mail or message is received on Gmail and other e-mail websites? I have to constantly verify if I have a new e-mail since there's no color change when I do receive one.


Personally I don't think that's the browser's job but the website's. In GMail's case, there's a Labs option to add an icon with the number of unread messages

couleursurlevide Friday, September 6, 2013 5:32:29 PM

Is there a way to set Opera 16 has your default web browser in Windows 8? If so, how? Thank you.

Léon McGregorleonmcg Friday, September 6, 2013 5:34:20 PM

Originally posted by couleursurlevide:

Is there a way to set Opera 16 has your default web browser in Windows 8? If so, how? Thank you.



you should be able to use the Preferences menu. Press ctrl+F12, and click the link under "default browser".

However, sometimes (for no reason) windows 8 lists every web browser as internet explorer, so i'm not sure if it works every time.

ayespy Friday, September 6, 2013 5:44:55 PM

Originally posted by Evo2Me:

Am I overlooking something or isn't there a 'Find in page' search any more?


Opera button/page/find in page

joshkauff Friday, September 6, 2013 5:48:45 PM

Originally posted by heavensrevenge:

Quick question opera devs: How can I override the new tab page?
In Chrome extension =
"chrome_url_overrides": {
"newtab": "newtab.html"
},
How can I override you? Because I can modify my version of a chrome extension ( https://github.com/heavensrevenge/speed-dial-chrome/ ) to make a graphical speed dial based bookmark manager.

Also how can I access your internal urls from an extension, for example:
opera://thumbnail/?size=800x600&pixel_ratio=1&make_persistent=0&update=1&url=http://distrowatch.com/ So I can use your built-in thumbnail creator?

Thanks in advanced I hope!

This sounds interesting, I repost it. By the way I´m Waiting for Dev 18, version 15-17 is useless without bookmark support, so far the team seems to focus on QAB wich in my opinion is a waste of vertical space and effort.

Ericheavensrevenge Friday, September 6, 2013 5:58:56 PM

Originally posted by joshkauff:


This sounds interesting, I repost it.

By the way I´m Waiting for Dev 18, version 15-17 is useless without bookmark support, so far the team seems to focus on QAB wich in my opinion is a waste of vertical space and effort.


The reason I ask is because I updated/maintained the original Chrome one.
And I discovered when you install this into Opera, and access the extension page from the extension "options" button, and inside the extension you can use the big + sign to actually add a bookmark or even a Folder to the QAB using that add operation since it uses chrome.bookmark API (booyeah).
So I can just use their v1 "Bookmark manager" addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/bookmarks-manager/ Import bookmark functionality to populate the JSON Bookmarks file and manage it within this extension in a speed-dial like visual fashion.
I'm friggin tired of waiting for bookmarks! lol

Alwyn John Theodorealwyntheo Friday, September 6, 2013 5:59:40 PM

Finally Ctrl+Enter been waiting for this since v15, thanks Opera Team.
Now the only thing that I really miss from Opera 12 is detailed Progress bar. Really hope you guys are at least planning for this in the future release.....
Anyway...Keep up the good work

Maximmax1c Friday, September 6, 2013 6:04:19 PM

How come does O12 profile doesn't transfer over on clean install of this version? =\

firstnight Friday, September 6, 2013 6:11:36 PM

Win7 64 bit Home Premium, Opera Next 17, USB installation

The removal of context menus from items within Quick Access Bar folders does not seem to have been thought through. They are needed.

L33t4operal33t4opera Friday, September 6, 2013 6:15:09 PM

Reporting a bug: "DNA-6248 Ctrl+Shift+Del should show delete private data dialog".
Sorry to say that, but this shortcut just doesn't work in this release, but it works well in latest Opera Developer 17.
WXP/W7.

L33t4operal33t4opera Friday, September 6, 2013 6:28:02 PM

Originally posted by ayespy:

Originally posted by Evo2Me:

Am I overlooking something or isn't there a 'Find in page' search any more?


Opera button/page/find in page

If you would like to use ".", "/", and "," for that purpose, and not only "Ctrl+F", then you have to enable the "Enable advanced keyboard shortcuts" option, under the "Settings"(Alt+P)->"Browser", and then scroll down to the "Shortcuts" section, on the right.

Dmitry Kirindvk-ru1 Friday, September 6, 2013 6:49:15 PM

Thanks for the build! up

It seems to be more stable, though I somehow managed to crash it once by closing a tab. (It's the same effect that first appeared in the last Dev build.)

I wonder why you didn't enable HiDPI by default. It really affects user's impression, and seems to be working well for quite some time already.

Another thing that may have an adverse effect on the impression is the slow start-up. 500 MB of opera.exe reads...please do something about it, while in the Next stage.

Switched to this Next as primary browser, but, I hope, not for long, as I'm looking forward for O18. smile

Tóth RóbertNekomajin Friday, September 6, 2013 6:49:58 PM

Originally posted by pauloaguia:

Originally posted by Ramseykal:

Now for the more important comment: Can you please add a type of glow effect on pinned tabs when a new e-mail or message is received on Gmail and other e-mail websites? I have to constantly verify if I have a new e-mail since there's no color change when I do receive one.

Personally I don't think that's the browser's job but the website's. In GMail's case, there's a Labs option to add an icon with the number of unread messages


It is the default behavior in Chrome and Firefox. Lots of websites use the title tag to notify the user about new messages/events. If the tab is pinned, you can't see the title, so someone had the idea to change the tab color when the title tag is updated. This is great, and we'd like to see this feature in Opera too.
So devs, please make is happen! smile

ayespy Friday, September 6, 2013 6:52:27 PM

Originally posted by max1c:

How come does O12 profile doesn't transfer over on clean install of this version?


Because 012 profile is for a completely different kind of browser.

Unless you are asking why bookmarks import is not available, and passwords/history/typed in pages are not imported, and in that case I suspect it's because a registry flag is set on the first instance of Next or Stable being installed, and it will not do the import function again.

Maximmax1c Friday, September 6, 2013 6:58:55 PM

Originally posted by ayespy:

Unless you are asking why bookmarks import is not available, and passwords/history/typed in pages are not imported, and in that case I suspect it's because a registry flag is set on the first instance of Next or Stable being installed, and it will not do the import function again.


Yeah, it's not. Next was first version I have installed on clean machine. I solved it by installing Stable importing to Stable and the copying Stable settings to Next.

Saskatchewan Friday, September 6, 2013 7:00:05 PM

Originally posted by heavensrevenge:

How can I override the new tab page?
In Chrome extension =
"chrome_url_overrides": {
"newtab": "newtab.html"
},

I asked for it before: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/84020472#comment111209022

Originally posted by brucelawson:

Originally posted by Saskatchewan:

do you plan to introduce Chrome's Override Pages in the future?

No plans either to support it or not - bigger fish to fry for the time being!

afurman Friday, September 6, 2013 7:08:05 PM

Hello, Opera team!

Thanks for your hard work, I deeply appreciate your effort to make another "the best browser ever" smile

I have some problems using Opera Next (15, 16) which I want you to take a look at:

1. O15 and 16 (and possibly 17) freezes GUI and mouse after my notebook resumes from hibernation (Win7 64). I can enter a login/password, a session starts and what I see then is a black screen with a mouse pointer in center of it. HDD is being used hard. The On/Off switch is configured to put the notebook into hibernation so when I press it the screen goes completely black and that's it. Occasionally in 5-10 min notebook goes off. But most of time I have to press the switch for 4 sec. to turn notebook off. Then after boot everything is OK until the next hibernation. Sometimes everything goes well after hibernation, but most of time - as I described. My investigation showed that it could possibly be an old Chronium bug but since you make The New Opera using its engine... you know.

2. https://www.facebook.com - the page which loads just after the login dialog hangs. But if I manage to click any link on it while the page is being loaded, the browser shows corresponding page without a problem (O15, 16, 17). Going back to that page hangs it.

That's it for problems, now suggestions section smile

3. Enable lazy session loading - I like this option very much as it greatly reduces time needed for browser to get ready to interact with user. May be you should try to experiment with another option which will force Opera to load not the only tab, but all other tabs in a session as well: one by one (not in parallel) in background with reduced priority.

Dmitry Kirindvk-ru1 Friday, September 6, 2013 7:11:18 PM

Originally posted by franspain:

Where are the font settings??
They were in last opera 17 developer release bigeyes


They seem to be not included into this release and absent from the Preferences file.

Christophchristoph142 Friday, September 6, 2013 7:14:12 PM

Originally posted by dvk-ru1:

Originally posted by franspain:

Where are the font settings??
They were in last opera 17 developer release bigeyes


They seem to be not included into this release and absent from the Preferences file.

They were introduced in .1246 which is technically Opera 18

thejusticierbit Friday, September 6, 2013 7:28:12 PM

Originally posted by Fhury:

Do you have any news on the possibility to import bookmarks without Opera 12 profile. So a way to use the exported bookmark file from Opera 12 or the bookmarks.adr file direct.


I've done it this way:

1. Export your Opera 12 bookmarks to a HTML file.

2. Install Chrome if you haven't done so yet.

3. Import your HTML bookmarks into Chrome.

4. Install the XMarks extension in Chrome.

5. Install the Download Chrome Extension extension in Opera 17.

6. Install the XMarks (Chrome) extension in Opera 17.

7. Synchronize.

8. PROFIT!!!

Ericheavensrevenge Friday, September 6, 2013 7:32:30 PM

Originally posted by Saskatchewan:

Originally posted by heavensrevenge:

How can I override the new tab page?
In Chrome extension =
"chrome_url_overrides": {
"newtab": "newtab.html"
},

I asked for it before: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/84020472#comment111209022

Originally posted by brucelawson:

Originally posted by Saskatchewan:

do

you plan to introduce Chrome's Override Pages in the future?

No plans either to support it or not - bigger fish to fry for the time being![/quote][/quote] That's crap... well at least we can bookmark internal extension pages, so I added a bookmark in the QAB to my speed dial, for anyone who wants to use it to also add and manage bookmarks for now. I'm also very happy to have some help if anyone wants to help out! github repo = https://github.com/heavensrevenge/speed-dial-chrome/

myrevolt Friday, September 6, 2013 7:32:51 PM

Any news about Opera Dragonfly return?

The changelog size is awesome! Keep the pace! wink

Dmitry Kirindvk-ru1 Friday, September 6, 2013 7:42:52 PM

Originally posted by afurman:

2. https://www.facebook.com - the page which loads just after the login dialog hangs. But if I manage to click any link on it while the page is being loaded, the browser shows corresponding page without a problem (O15, 16, 17). Going back to that page hangs it.


No, works fine for me. Logged off and on to test.
As for your first question: do you mean that Opera allocates too much memory and your system goes deep into memory swapping? Or else, how do you know it's Opera why the system is freezing? Looks like a usual system wake-up, when memory contents is read from hiberfil.sys.

Dmitry Kirindvk-ru1 Friday, September 6, 2013 7:45:46 PM

Originally posted by christoph142:

Originally posted by dvk-ru1:

Originally posted by franspain:

Where are the font settings??
They were in last opera 17 developer release bigeyes


They seem to be not included into this release and absent from the Preferences file.

They were introduced in .1246 which is technically Opera 18

It's only now that I realized the current build is 1241, less than 1246.

Krissz5435 Friday, September 6, 2013 7:59:09 PM

Originally posted by Blazej Kazmierczak:

...Opera 18 Developer should be released very soon....



It would be great if we could test it this weekend. smile

JTDi Friday, September 6, 2013 8:16:59 PM

It is not allowed to input any Chinese characters in the address bar!!
Could please fix this bug? There is no problem for the Opera 16.
Thank you very much. I am looking forward to Opera 18. I like the Synchronization very much!!

Romanfeil0ng Friday, September 6, 2013 8:28:36 PM

Originally posted by bkazmierczak:


To save some of you a little trouble, there is no Linux release of Opera 17, but there will be Opera for Linux.



thank you for the info up

Ralf BrinkmannRalf-Brinkmann Friday, September 6, 2013 8:29:43 PM

Originally posted by l33t4opera:

Ctrl+Shift+Del should show delete private data dialog".

Sorry to say that, but this shortcut just doesn't work in this release, but it works well in latest Opera Developer 17.

WXP/W7.

Confirmed. Windows XP.

kiva23 Friday, September 6, 2013 8:30:44 PM

This version won't start with --single-process option.

Anyone can confirm?

Bill_Josephsbjosephs Friday, September 6, 2013 8:31:46 PM

Originally posted by Alacran:

Stumped to see that again no bookmark support was added.
I have hundreds of bookmarks in my old O12 profile, and there is no possible way of getting them transfered to O17 Next.
I can't make O17 my everyday browser without my bookmarks.

Just like the rest of the guys, I don't understand how you can release a browser (be it dev or next channel) without any basic bookmark support?

Also wondering like the rest, how long is this going to take? Another four months?

Sincerely I'm about to give up on Opera. This is just impossible, can't work without my bookmarks!

I agree... I'm still using the latest 12.14 and cannot even think about using Opera 16 or 17 as my regular browser without bookmarks. I found several nice Firefox add-ons that add Opera-like-bookmarks to Firefox so that Firefox has become my secondary browser....

LisandreL Friday, September 6, 2013 8:33:53 PM

> tabs handling improvements
As tabs are in developing stage think of Tree Style Tabs option (as in FF's extension). It is very handy mix of vertical tabs and smart tab grouping.

Harald ArnesenGurre Friday, September 6, 2013 8:34:38 PM

"To save some of you a little trouble, there is no Linux release of Opera 17, but there will be Opera for Linux."

[Asbestous underwear donned]
Don't bother. When Opera first brought out a Linux version, there were no good Linux browsers. Now we have several, and Opera's Chrome version is not good enough to bother with. At the current rate, it will be two-three years before it caches up with the features and feel of Opera 12 (which still is the greatest browser out there).

WJ waj1944 Friday, September 6, 2013 8:46:56 PM

Recently something in Opera has prevented my from uploading images to my Wix account.
This started with in the last 2 versions of 16/17. I even removed all extensions and still no go.
Wix remote into my computer and we determined there is something going on with Opera since, Firefox, Chrome, and Safari are all fine, and, allow me to upload images to my account. This may not be a big issue on your end however I know several people using Opera with a Wix account, in addition Wix is going to put a note on there site that they do not support Opera! Help I love Opera!!!

Chris Buserchrisbuser Friday, September 6, 2013 9:11:10 PM

Hi everyone!

First of all, I want to thank u for this awesome browser (it's still in development, most features we all loved from Opera 12 will return).

I use Opera cause of it's nice style (it's not like Chrome at all), unique speed dial and awesome performance & speed. However, I dont like the new "grey" inactive tab style in Opera Next 17. Maybe this change won't get into Opera 17.

It's just a small wish of mine smile

Would be awesome, if u might check the style again and think about it.

Ty!

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