Did a few 15 minute counts in various locations around Vancouver, Canada. Low average background of barely .10 µSv/hr all locations. Last count aprox. 3 hrs ago.
"Alert Caloundra report 17th September 2013 – Storms overnight here, so I took rain swab off a car this morning. On testing it peaked at approximately 6 uSv/hr (1800 cpm) using two Russian SBM-20 tubes, and Theremino Geiger kit. Again it is suggested to stay out of the rain. This rain sample is decaying quickly which suggests it is a large radon washout."
The long period Geiger counter test chart indicated the presence of other Isotopes besides Radon washout decay daughters. (So it was placed in the scintillator lead test chamber for further testing.)
NOTE: Scintillator testing of the rain swab collected on the 18th September at Caloundra, is indicating the presence of a Zeolite type material. A source of this could be volcanic ash from the recent Indonesian volcanic eruptions.
When testing is complete, the full report will be posted here. The scintillator test chart will be provided soon. Preliminary analysis also indicates the presence of trace amounts of Iodine I-129, and Lead Pb-210.
Another report indicating recent Fukushima releases went far and wide.
"Radiation plume after Japanese earthquake. Iodine-131 cloud reached France."
List of RADCON-4 sites:
5:115 near Burlington, VT, US 238 2013-09-22 05:19:00 G
5:204 near New York City, NY, US 284 2013-09-22 05:53:00 G
5:306 near Richmond, VA, US 286 2013-09-22 05:41:00 G
5:308 near Charlotte, NC, US 331 2013-09-22 05:08:00 G
5:311 near Philadelphia, PA, US 261 2013-09-22 05:24:00 G
5:631 near Laredo, TX, US 251 2013-09-22 05:31:00 U
4:816 near Saint George, UT, US 352 2013-09-21 15:28:00 U http://www.netc.com/
Reposting from the Webcam thread… never seen these types of numbers, but I'm not as vigilant as you all.
Anyone checking the Rad levels over there? I just pulled this from Netc.com. I don't have file hosting to capture a screenshot, but I saved one, and some of you should archive it too. We should be getting blasted in a few days if this is another big event…
152000 <——- !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Station ID 6:1181341550 Fukushima Dai-ichi, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 152000 Low 141000 High 156000
Average 149283, Deviation 3912
Hi Sixela: The NETC members (only) map/access shows that Station ID 6:1181341550 has been cooling off from a high of 177,000 in March. That's listed in units of "nSv/hr", which equals 177uSv/hr –which equals 17,700 uR/hr –which would ring up about 62,000cpm on an Inspector Geiger counter or a Mazur-9000.
Be my guess that Daiichi station has parked its Geiger counter near a stray piece of fuel rod or some "black stuff".
Technocracy + Plutocracy
Again: we as citizens struggle to even comprehend the terminologies of what's being done to us. True understanding (if not the "deciding" –Obama's and Abe's puppet masters do that) is the provenance of a lab coated priesthood.
The advance of technology and techno-speak make an informed democracy a pipe dream. (Same goes for issues about GMOs, nano technologies, pharmaceutical and psychiatric frauds, fracking and etc. It took us decades to regulate asbestos, lead content and DDT –in our "free enterprise", "money is speech" society.
Big money has persuaded the election of a freshman Republican Congress which is in denial about global warming, carbon dioxide and fracking hazards. The minority of the populace which has a handle on some of these issues has been persuaded not to vote Green Party, lest more of these Randites, neocons and GOP Christian fundamentalist boogeymen get into office.
The people _did_ vote Green in Germany. Now their nukes are all scheduled to get phased out.
@Craig-123 – I enjoyed this rant. You said, "Congress which is in denial about global warming" which I disagree with. I believe they are simply taking money to look the other way on all the issues you spoke of and more.
Sorry, I forgot to add my 24 hour radiation reading update to the above post/reply.
South Beloit, IL. Illinois/Wisconsin state line. Within the past 24 hours (9-21-2013 8pm CST to 9-22-2013 9am CST) I have seen a climb on my outside station, inside pancake unit and another inside station I have setup inside a house 30 miles South of me. The peak seen on my outside unit was not outside of the normal (using the word normal very loosely) peaks seen beginning August 29th of 2013. The levels have since dropped down as I continue to monitor 24/7 using http://www.NETCcom
@Vital1: * Here's a more elaborate response than I recently made to Eatlies.
* Since "staying out of the rain" is not an option in Oregon, I have a passing interest in alternative explanations –like: how about cleaning half the hood of your car (when it starts to rain) and doing wipes on both halves –so that the possibility of road dust, or other (non-rain) airborne dust is eliminated? (In which case, the already decayed dust would have been originally very hot indeed).
The dust particles involved tend to be positively ionized, such that a negatively charged (or simply grounded) metal plate (or car, or wire) attracts more. Modern tires are supposed to be conductive enough to drain off that static charges (which use to zap me as a kid 60 years ago), but that varies with tires being wet or not. A grounding rod connected to a (regularly cleaned) bare metal plate (of a specified size –1/10th square meter, say) would be more scientific. You'd completely wipe that plate with paper toweling which is also of a specified exposed size (to closely match the area spanned by two SBM-20 tubes –say), fold it in half to protect the deposit, press it dry between a pair of dry towels, bring it inside and open it again to be read at (say) exactly 3 minutes after the wiping, then place the toweling (say) 1 centimeter away from and parallel to the (plastic film protected) G-M tubes –then start charting the decay curve.
I do understand the use of an efficient testing area and methodology.
The more people think of the details and follow procedures properly and consistently the better they will become at giving an 'as accurate as possible' meaningful reading.
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Just an idea.
How about pouring tap water over the hood before leaving the garage and taking a measurement. That would be a probable 'baseline' for what the wet swab was off of the dusty car prior to driving in the rain.
Alert Level Georgia USA 789 uR/hr (microRem per Hour) showing up on Black Cat Systems at present. It maybe an equipment fault or false alarm, keep and eye on it just in case. There is a slight elevation 50 cpm on a station in the same state, on Radiation network at present.
Oh –not to worry, Vital1 –per: "Are your friends panicked by media coverage of the event? Share this page so they can see things are currently normal" –at the top of the page.
That station is still at 739 (9/23 – 00:26 hours UT/GMT), but nothing special via NETC or that station in Georgia via Radiation Network –which is coded standard yellow (means not upward trending).
Yes Graig-123, the other networks are not indicating anything significant in Georgia, except one of the Radiation Network stations near there is slightly elevated at 51 cpm now.
At these detections levels it is worth keeping a close eye on it, until more information is available on whether this is a false alarm, or a localized event.
The only "panic" that seems to be reliable is panic the nuclear mafia (corporate industry/government) reveals whenever there is the slightest hint that the public may find out any of the truth of their own destruction.
Nuclear reacts to try to cover anything up. For example, when there are spikes of radiation in Japan, these are sometimes followed by a sea of "green" on netc.com, because the EPA seems to just shut most of everything off, as they likely are today.
This happened at the end of August, and now it is happening after the spike in radiation after the earthquake in Japan last week.
Radiation plume after Japanese earthquake. Iodine-131 cloud reached France.
Posted on September 21, 2013
A 5.8 earthquake rocked Japan just south of the Fukushima area shortly after midnight on September 20 (Japan time). Apparently radiation measurements in this area have temporarily spiked.
Results were seen immediately after Fuksuhima and she really needs to redo this video! There is no reason to look any further and Pennsylvania rates skyrocketed too after TMI!
Breast cancer rates are also directly linked to Nuclear Radiation Contamination!
Why haven't these supposedly educated people woken up yet?
A shit storm of Radiation Contamination heads this/comith this way!
* Yes: I was monitoring at the time, and aside from car wipe scares, I don't recall anything special showing up during private monitoring with common Geiger counters^.
* That 4 Rems was an estimate of the annual dose to kids drinking milk for a year (*key*) _IF_ SFP #4 spilled (and consequently the whole collection of horrors in the Daiichi complex, I presume).
* And guess what: that Damocles sword is still hanging over our heads!
* Right: it does seem they weren't going to tell us: too many people to evacuate, public panic, bad for business and the nuclear industry. You know the drill on that.
* Private monitoring with Geiger counters, even with GCs having good beta and alpha sensitivity, is basically about reading what's on and under the soil. The particles which blew our way would be tough to detect, even with the serious air filtering effort I made. (Scores of 10 cubic meter air draws, plenty of radon daughters, but no "hot particle" residuals detected here.) I even used film for a while –like the Fairewinds lab (Kaltofen's work).
I did manage to image a bit of slightly radioactive ink from a Japanese pen –that I happened to use for marking the filters, but was unable to duplicate that detection with pens bought at a later date.
** If you check Radiation Network's archived log of spikes (incomplete, but not selectively so) at:
Radiation Network doesn't seem to hold back on the malarky.
There is fuel fissioning in the open air upwind of the United States, but the explanations in the link above point away from that likely source of radiation to much less likely sources of radiation, like a radioactive patient just happening to walk by…
"This pattern could be explained by brief handling of a radioactive sample, or momentary passing of a human still radioactive from a medical test, but the operator claims neither."
Radiation Network failed in the worst way, it showed nothing when we know we had aerosolized plutonium flying by making its way to Lithuania, it should apologize for its failure, explain that it has been proven to be unreliable, and remove the website, instead of its members falsely suggesting that it is somehow reliable source for radiation readings, "so not to worry."
Radiation plume after Japanese earthquake. Iodine-131 cloud reached France.
Posted on September 21, 2013
A 5.8 earthquake rocked Japan just south of the Fukushima area shortly after midnight on September 20 (Japan time). Apparently radiation measurements in this area have temporarily spiked.
In a previous discussion Iodine-131 from latest criticality it was noted that the iodine spike in Chiba prefecture sludge was deposited in the period August 7 through August 20. According to CRIIRAD, Montélimar, France had spikes in alpha and beta atmospheric radiation on September 4-7. Rhône river water in Avignon showed a spike in iodine-131 on Sept. 7. The iodine cloud must have widened and dispersed quite a bit in its journey across the northern hemisphere… and 75% or more of it would have decayed by the time it reached France. So it must have been quite a substantial radioactive cloud…
Fukushima not only affects Japan, but the Pacific ocean, North America, and Europe too. Australia has had average radiation levels increase substantially, also.
I recently posted this I-129 detection report for the Southern Hemisphere.
9th September 2013 – I recently collected 82 grams of moss that had been growing in roof gutter here, and tested it. It was very wet here for the first half of 2013. August has had no rain, so the moss sample was dry. Sample collected here on the east coast of Australia.
Sixela,
Greetings from Eagle Mt, near Vancouver, Canada. Yes Yes having those monitoring stations data with local weather readings of wind direction, easy to google, coordinated with the valuable work you guys do is an excellent idea.
Presently I am reporting average readings here 20 min. count low .07 to a high of .13 avge .10 all mcSv/hr . Good point Craig you divide by 1000 to get the more popular microSv per hour for the Fukushima Rad monitoring stations.
However, especially with the nuclear industry, Plutocracy can be mated to Regulatory Capture with excellent results if your an operator of a crippled Nuclear Power Plant facility.
Harlan, please or anyone else who knows Trying to copy and paste netc station thats "fukushima daina" so hard to navigate with this android phone. Reading showed average, high and low all at 300 nanoSv/hr.
I understand these numbers provided by Tepco or somebody else?
Sorry the android phone isn't good for this. Here is what I'm talking about.
300
Station ID 6:2430292483 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-7, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 300 Low 300 High 300
Average 300, Deviation 0
This must be info from Tepco. How can this be real data? .3 µSv/hr posted for average current low and high?
Harlan, the post above yours contained cut and paste using Apple laptop last night. This is what I see just now. Copied and posted just now.
300
Station ID 6:2430292483 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-7, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 300 Low 300 High 300
Average 300, Deviation 0
Just curious what your sources are, recognizing that you can't have control over your sources. I don't know how you differentiate between an individual source or a government source. This one looks suspicious. By the way your web-site is awesome but the android phone does suck trying to zoom right in on your map. But considering what James Bond had when I was growing up aside from the Aston Martin, the android phone/computer/camera/etc. etc. is a technical marvel.
WWJD, thanks for responding. For a casual observer it is not clear where the info is coming from although obviously with the Dai-ni and Dai-ichi stations its not a worker hanging his GMC-200 out the lunchroom window. The Dai-ni #7 readings are suspicious to me as no variation is reported and the high, low, average and current readings all show .3 µSv/hr. The other Dai-ni readings for 1 through 6 show some fluctuation. If the detector for #7 isn't close to a consistent low radiation emmitter and they are not fixing the results I have no technical explanation for this except actual readings are much higher and they are lying to us. Pure speculation on my part as there might well be a reasonable explanation. See below results of all Dai-ni stations plus closest town and finally central Dai-ichi (Fukushima plant)readings
As an owner of several geiger counter stations on NETC.com it upsets me how we all know that we can not fully trust the EPA to tell us the truth (or in a timely manner) but there still are so few private monitoring stations out there. Spend the $85 from GQ Electronics for a GMC-200 and hook it up for FREE to NETC, it is so easy! Just think of how many private radiation stations we would have to review radiation readings from if everyone posting on EneNews had one sharing their data with the world.
Thanks, Au. The jet stream has been favoring San Francisco a lot lately, lucky us. My thyroid was bothering me a lot on Saturday (we had very unusual rain), which is why I didn't believe the sea of green on netc.com further downwind yesterday, although it looks like the EPA may have turned a the reporting back on a bit right now.
5:637 near South Valley, NM, US 444 2013-09-24 12:43:00 G
4:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 71 2013-09-24 12:23:00 U
5:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 277 2013-09-24 12:23:00 U
4:956 near Phoenix, AZ, US 225 2013-09-24 12:07:00 G
5:956 near Phoenix, AZ, US 368 2013-09-24 12:07:00 G http://www.netc.com/activealerts.php
I doubt the lows being reported in the northeast today.
My thyroid had been bothering me every day the jet stream has been here, including today. We have been under the jet stream for the better part of the last two weeks. High energy family members are fatigued.
We have to remember that NETC.com can only update the EPA stations data as it becomes available from the EPA, which is about once every 6 hours or more. Look at each site in question to see when it was last updated. This will help to explain why for example, my outside geiger counter might be showing a rise when my local EPA site still shows green.
NoNukes, I'm so sorry to hear about the swelling of your glandular geiger counter. I hope your thyroid settles down and returns to normal soon. I'm thinking a lot of people must be having the same sensation but they don't know how to recognize it or if they do feel it- they don't link it to Fuku.
WWJD and NoNukes – EPA likes to keep those dots in the green don't they?
@Au – What I believe I have seen several times is when an event starts to show up on the EPA's readings (due to local NPP venting or Fuku jetstream) that station goes offline and when it returns there are gaps in the times recorded – missing data. I can not stress enough how important it is for all of us to setup even a low cost GMC-200 geiger counter monitoring station. I only stress using http://www.NETC.com because it is FREE to setup your monitoring station, unlike other private networks offering the same type of service. Furthermore, I own both Black Cat Systems and Radiation Network and I believe NETC is the best currently available.
You are right. That is probably protocol to turn it off when readings start climbing. I also see that they do zero down a reading– straight down–like they are playing with a etch-a- sketch.
Thanks, Au and WWJD. I meant to call attention to what the EPA is doing, not implicate netc, as netc.com makes the EPA's habits more visible.
I think your right, Au, that people don't realize what the sensation means, it took me a while, and I have a smaller thyroid than normal from taking synthetic thyroid medication.
For those who are interested, the thyroid is in the front of your neck, on either side. If you covered the front of your neck with your hand, your thyroid would be underneath.
The thyroid takes up radioactive iodine, and when this happens there is a swelling, an light ache, unless there is a lot, then it can be quick intense.
If you notice a sensation in the front of your neck, check out the jet stream.
@NoNukes- oh yes! I understood you and it's good to clarify for newbies.
When the thyroid gets real swollen it can also be hard to swallow or it feels like there is a lump in the throat. Mine was that bad for a couple of weeks. It seems to have settled down. When it is swollen people may find they don't want anything around their neck like a tie, tight collar or a short necklace, etc.
I sleep/rest/lie down most of the day…I thought that was normal!
Aren't we all suppose to feel like shit most of every day?
Sometimes I will just lay on the ground under a big oak tree and then watch all the chemtrails when they are active, but even then I feel tired. At least there are no squirrels, birds or wild life blocking my vision and hopefully those massive trees will stop sprouting their leaves in the near future.
This has shown same for days on android and others.
300
Station ID 6:2430292483 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-7, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 300 Low 300 High 300
Average 300, Deviation 0
rest of Dai-ni
900
Station ID 6:2042165046 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-1, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 900 Low 800 High 900
Average 891, Deviation 28.7
600
Station ID 6:3769738892 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-2, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 600 Low 600 High 700
Average 603, Deviation 18.1
900
Station ID 6:2545325594 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-3, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 900 Low 800 High 900
Average 897, Deviation 17.3
800
Station ID 6:164758457 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-4, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 800 Low 800 High 900
Average 835, Deviation 47.8
800
Station ID 6:2127901487 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-5, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 800 Low 700 High 800
Average 800, Deviation 2.1
400
Station ID 6:3889980053 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-6, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 400 Low 300 High 400
Average 400, Deviation 5.3
Compare closest city
80
Station ID 6:3254800826 Iwaki City, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 80 Low 80 High 21000
Average 196, Deviation 1516.2
Finally compare to disaster central
154000
Station ID 6:1181341550 Fukushima Dai-ichi, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 154000 Low 141000 High 156000
Average 149413, Deviation 3964.5
at level 2 rising
Just that #7 Dai-ni reading of a constant 300 nSv/hr is fishy to me as no deviation whatsoever. Problems at Dai-ni?
In fact, Harlans source is http://jciv.iidj.net/map/ and their source is Tepco, Japan Regulation Authority and perhaps others.
I havn't checked all stations yet.
I can't find the station I questioned, Fukushima Dai-ni #7 on the jciv although I did earlier. Seems to have disapeared.
I forgot to note that the graph is showing the readings as 1-day averages. Please focus more on the patterns which show a rise & fall in the readings/graph and the dates of those vs. Fukushima events/news releases. For example, the increased news in July & August about increased water leaks and steam releases from Fukushima.
WWJD, your living in a high radon area according to this map which you have probably seen http://www.epa.gov/radon/states/illinois.html also Illinois has a lot of NPP as does the whole Great Lakes area. Many local sources and if Fukushima adds to this is hard to say. My readings near Vancouver Canada remain pretty consistent and you would think Fukushima would affect me more then you. Intuitively if a fuel pool collapses I would be happier living in Illinois then the west coast.
Mark- yeah. I go around and around in my head about where is a good place to live in the USA. Like you said, Illinois and Detroit are farther from Fuku but then there are the scads of aging NPPs in the MW and the Great Lakes (including Canada's)- sigh. Move out to the western deserts and one gets Fuku'ed a lot quicker and/or for instance in Colorado- fuku'ed and also one gets leftovers from the 2000 uranium mines Annie was talking about. I know there were some problems in Park City, Utah. Some houses were built on top of uranium tailings. It's all a gamble. Tired of thinking about it. It's the impossible rubik's cube. I think of my friends living down on the Mornington Pennisula in Australia. They don't have a care in the world. They can breathe the air, walk barefoot, swim in the beautiful ocean, grow wonderful gardens, eat local seafood and all with no worries.
GD NPPs.
It, like a lot of states, is FULL of toxic, radioactive waste sites, plus assorted military and civilian nuclear facilities. It is a rat's nest of radiation.. buy a meter and carry it with you…
I know! Every night I ask to have a vision that tells me how to save my birth family- there close to you in santa cruz and how to save the kids and the dolphins and earth. My healthy sweet easy going mother just emailed me and said the dentist would not work on her tooth yesterday because her blood pressure was too high. WHAT?! This is so unusual and it makes me think cesium might be to blame. effn nuclear. This is how fuku plays out it's insidious invisible assaults.
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I'm sorry about your mom, Au. A grain-free diet with good fats like avocado, coconut oil, etc. plus omegas, magnesium, VitD, can be amazing for lowering blood pressure.
@Mark – Thanks for posting the link to the radon map, others will find it very useful. Radon is often not looked at seriously by people. I already knew my area was high in radon, the radon pump I installed has worked wonders as I noted on the graph above. I really wanted to just through out the question and see what others thought the reason for the climb might be. It has been such a slow climb over the months. Maybe I should even replace the geiger counter to rule out it as a source of the slow climb.
The bottom line is we need more stations around the world but until then we work with the information that we have. Netc.com does the best to tell the public where the radiation is increasing, we all know that any radiation is bad.
More independant stations are needed. The distrust thinking people have to government radiation reports and government in general is huge. Thank the internet which makes it harder for governments to lie. I found my Fukushima Dai-ni 7 station on the japanese map. You need to zoom right up close to see it. Harlan, yours is a good system as at a glance you can see what areas are experiencing increases. Takes time for people like me with no background in radiation to figure it out but now that I have I do appreciate your system.
Today appears to be a bad rad day. Worse than yesterday, when the French blog predicted we would get fallout. Is the reason that levels drop so much over night because of radiation + Sun? Just curious. I try to check in the AM and PM.
I am fascinated by the fact that even when levels in DC and Richmond, VA spike, Alexandria, VA is always very low. I wonder where that station is.
Anyone with historical data want to check on this for me?
Sixla- yeah, I see when the sun goes down so do the readings. I also found that while flying (in a plane of course, lol) the readings go down. It's better to fly at night for less radiation unless of course you are flying in the jetstream full of evil rads from Fukushima. Then it can be bad anytime of the day.
I used to check Harrisburg on Alexander Higgin's site for radiation levels. Harrisburg's beta count was really high. I could swear I used to check Alexandria but maybe I am dreaming. If I unearth historical data I will post it.
Most of my lowest 24/7 outside geiger counter (on face of air purifier) readings are in the PM but not all of them. The early a.m. hours seem to be the highest for me. (Wisconsin – Illinois stateline)
Mark- that's a nice map to share. Thanks! Most people are not aware of how many nuke plants there are, as you know. There are a heap of them and they are all getting old, as you know. That would be good to share and then add "And if the grid goes down…we're stuffed or if one has a meltdown- see look at here–the wind will carry the radiation to places far away and ruin the surroundings for scads of human generations."
This is a very useful link. Just enter your zip code and it tells you how many miles away they are from you plus the EPA evacuation zones. Of course we know the EPA safe/evacuation zones do not mean much.
WWJD- great link! Oh my, my. I am only 34 miles from one npp and 61 from another one. Red zone for two! And I was worried about cell phone towers when locating somewhere to move to 3 years ago : /
So bad.
This short animation shows Northern, and Southern Hemisphere air circulation. It clearly shows why we can get detections so far south. There is more equatorial barrier circulation break through during warmer months than winter.
Summary of Report
The storms passed over the Nimbin area on the 16th, and Caloundra area on the evening of the 17th, and early morning of the 18th. Rain swabs were collected from both these rain events, and analyzed.
1. The rain swab collected at Caloundra was tested and found to contain both the decay daughters of both Radon-222, and Radon-220. It is common to get Radon-222 washouts, not Radon-220. Radon-222 is from the Uranium decay chain, and Radon-220 is from the Thorium decay chain.
This theory has been put forward by a contact in New Zealand. The Radon-220 decay daughter isotope detection here, is an indication that one or more of the underground coriums at Fukushima undergoing fast neutron fission. One or more coriums are possibly purifying, and operating in a mode of unmoderated fission. This would increase the yields of Thorium daughters.
2. Trace amounts of longer lived isotopes for Iodine I-129, Uranium U-235, Be-7 and Lead Pb-210 where also detected. This is not good, but probably far less than areas in the Northern Hemisphere are…
3. Here are some other theories why large Radon washout events are becoming more common.
Some of the very large Radon washouts that are occurring in Nimbin area may be related to the geography of the location. Why we have concerns about large Radon washout events.
For more Technical details, charts and analysis, read on. (Comments, corrections, and suggestions are welcome)
"Alert Caloundra report 18th September 2013 – Storms overnight here, so I took rain swab off a car this morning. On testing it peaked at approximately 6 uSv/hr (1800 cpm) using two Russian SBM-20 tubes, and Theremino Geiger kit. Again it is suggested to stay out of the rain. This rain sample is decaying quickly which suggests it was a large Radon-222 washout."
This long period Geiger counter test chart indicated the presence of other Isotopes besides Radon-222 washout decay daughters.
The main peaks are decay daughter isotopes of Radon-220, Lead Pb-212 (238 keV), X-ray at 77 keV, and Thalium Tl-208 (511, 583 keV), plus peaks for long lived isotopes of Iodine I-129, Uranium U-235, Beryllium Be-7, and Lead Pb-210. Because the rain swab scintillator test was started less than 24 hours after it was collected, there are some Radon-222 decay daughter isotopes of Lead Pb-214 and Bismuth Bi-214 also present.
Day average background levels have also been very volatile in this area for last 14 days, recently hitting 30% above the pre-Fukushima 4 year average.
Alert Nimbin Monitoring Station report 16th September 2013 – Nimbin is located on the east coast of northern New South Wales Australia.
“…Rain began this morning…. drove to town about midday, got home about 30min ago and sat my SBT 10 on the roof of the car, as I gathered my things out of the back seat, and it started beeping. It was reading 0.38uSv/h….moments later I took a swab off the whole car roof (small sedan) and put it to my LND 7317 and got ~6500CPM for the first few minutes. I’ll send a photo and chart soon….” Here is the decay chart and detection photo of this detection, kindly provided by the Ninbim radiation monitoring station operator.
NOTE: We haven’t seen any studies on the heath effects of being exposed to large Radon washout events like this. It is only a suggestion to take these precautions in the Rain Alert emails. If you live in the area, it is suggested to stay out of the rain during these events, plus keep children and pets out of it also. If you do get wet, have a good shower. It maybe a very large radon washout event, that seems to be common to the Nimbin area. This rain washout could also have other isotopes in it. Without further testing with better equipment, there is no way of knowing.
Disclaimer: This is an amateur volunteer run service. Human error can provide incorrect information, and equipment malfunction can produce false readings. Do not rely on, or take action upon information presented here, without further research.
Here are the links that I pointed to, and didn't show the html code in the above report.
This short animation shows Northern, and Southern Hemisphere air circulation. It clearly shows why we can get detections so far south. There is more equatorial barrier circulation break through during warmer months than winter.
* You need to become aware that plutonium is an alpha emitter, and that one has to hold an expensive, mica windowed Geiger counter in very close proximity to a sample of the stuff in order to get any alpha clicks.
* While the dust mote "fuel fleas" which reached us (right after the initial Fukushima events) only amounted to something like one per cubic meter of air, pounds of the stuff could land in my front yard here and it wouldn't show up on my daily data logging. That would be true of nearly everyone in our 4 private networks.
* Mine was one of a few private stations (for over a year) which filtered air and read the filters for residuals. I went so far as to expose dozens of filters in contact with high speed film emulsions, but all I found was some faintly radioactive ink from a pen manufactured in Japan (which I'd used to mark some of the filters –my bad).
* I'm interested in how you became confident enough in your convictions to malign the earnest efforts of Radiation Network.
I suggest that you get more acquainted with radiation detection by buying a Geiger counter. (#1 is to keep it free of contamination and moisture.)
Read the manual. Prove to yourself what it can do and what it can not do. Develop a methodical approach to monitoring, and start keeping a data log.
Craig123, I am stating a fact. Even in the initial days, at the very least, we had multiple level 7 events upwind of the United States, and Radiation Network gave no indication that anything of that magnitude was occurring.
Do you disagree with this, did Radiation Network give an indication of these catastrophic events?
"On 22.03.2011 the French Institut de Radioprotection et de Sûreté Nucléaire (IRSN) (www.irsn.fr) published an estimation covering reactors 1 – 3 and the time period between 12.03.2011 and 22.03.2011: 90,000 TBq j-131, 10,000 TBq Cs-137 (plus specification covering other nuclides).
On 22.03.2011 the Austrian Zentralanstalt für Meteorologie und Geodynamik (ZAMG) (www.zamg.ac.at) published estimations covering the total release of J-131 and Cs-137 in the first four days. This estimation has been specified on the 23.03.2011: 400,000 TBq J- 131, 85,000 TBq Cs-137." http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/PageFiles/285414/greenpeace_hirsch_INES_report_25032011.pdf
How many level seven events would we need in order for Radiation Network to be able to warn us of them, 4? 8? 120?
Radiation Network failed to warn us of this catastrophe. Why suggest it has the capacity to do so now when the truth has been proven otherwise, and why suggest that plutonium travels alone?
If you had a machine designed to screen for skin cancer, and it missed the worst melanomas, etc, for 2.5 years, would it still be the right thing to do to suggest that the machine can screen for skin cancer?
@NoNukes: "There's no there there". Pay Harlan of NETC his $20 and look at the private graphs for whatever dates in question. You should find a few wild excursions here and there, but taken together, their character and average looks much the same over time to me (or: so far –and fingers crossed on that).
I hope you don't think NETC is also a failed network –or in cahoots with the nuclear establishment.
–and all of them can be readily seen via a paid NETC membership (or going through RadNet's obstacle course, but those are extremely compressed).
* I'm not saying there's no threat, or that bad stuff isn't happening in Japan –just that the folks doing monitoring have, on average, as yet, nothing special (gamma-wise) –on the ground –in these United States –to report.
* And those excursions do bother me. I'd like to see a thousand stations on the map so we could see if beta stuff is drifting around and if there are major sources for where it's coming from.
@Craig-123 – What I do detect from your statement… "Maybe WWJD can show us something special" is a sarcastic remark. What did I do wrong?
Side note, http://www.NETC.com will for FREE let anyone connect their geiger counter to NETC's network and share their readings with the world. If you want to view others charts, there is a fee.
* Not at all. I saw further along the page that you were noting a gain in CPMs (per: "my station clearly shows a climb starting August 26, 2013 to new higher levels that I have not dropped below as of yet") –something I may have missed, and might have been about to post a "screen shot" at NoNuke's request –so I didn't try to get a screen capture of your graph myself.
* I'm making a special effort to be reasonable and even-handed in my responses.
@Craig123 – I am sorry that I took your statement in the wrong way. Please post a screen shot of my data anytime. You or others might point something out to me that I missed myself. If you can believe it, I do not spend as much time analyzing my data as I would like.
As for todays current readings for my outside station:
A clear upswing in radiation levels are seen on my graph from a 24 hours low seen at 1:30 a.m. 9/27 CST and climbing steady as of this post 9/27 10:38 CST. My nearest EPA station in Madison Wisconsin (beta & gamma) show a rise too within the past 24 hours, per http://www.NETC.com
As you know, there is data from around the world that shows massive amounts of radiation hit the United States during the initial days of this catastrophe, yet Radiation Network showed virtually nothing.
Radiation Network was proven incapable in the early days of the disaster. If it can't perceive the massive amounts of Cesium 137 then it obviously is a failure. Except as cover for the nuclear industry.
“High concentrations” of radiation hit US and Canada — Plume was rich in Cesium-137 and “close to the surface” from Vancouver southward — See also Hawaii, Florida (MAPS)
“Already on 15 March, a first isolated 133Xe cloud reached western North America, followed by the arrival of high concentrations of both 133Xe and 137Cs on 19 March.”
“The main part of the radioactive plume entered western North America on 17–18 March. On 18 March at 12:00UTC, the head of the plume had already arrived over the North Atlantic, but the main part was located over the eastern Pacific Ocean and western North America, where it could be detected at monitoring sites. This part of the plume was also rich in 137Cs, as it was still close to the surface south of 50 [Most of US/Canada border is 49°]. At the same time, the plume penetrated the subtropics and arrived at Hawaii on 19 March.”
It's hard to get up-to-date statistics. In general, our air is cleaner than in other urban areas. I think MS rate is much higher in Colorado, and skin cancer is higher. I don't know about other cancers.
Denver's background radiation is now 9 times higher since Fukushima 3/11. It will take probably 5 or 10 years to 30 years to see the statistics for cancer, because the statistics for a particular year are not available for a few years.
Also, they just stopped requiring clean up by the owner of a uranium mine owner of uranium polluted water drunk by Denver resident. It's going to also take years to see the health effects of this decision. Supposedly the city is going to add molasses.
If you own a geiger counter and only take 10 minute counts to get a background reading and feel safe about those readings, your fooling yourself. If I was not recording 24/7 my outside background, I would likely not see the changes as they happen.
With that said, my station clearly shows a climb starting August 26, 2013 to new higher levels that I have not dropped below as of yet. This is so sad! (Wisconsin / Illinois stateline)
I've got mine running 24/7 on radnet software and it is staying steady. It's by the window but it's not outside. So, it should be picking up beta and gamma increases. And after reading what you said about PU being an alpha emitter and that it would require a very sensitive GC to pick it up- it is clear that I am not picking up PU (or other outside alpha particles). What I have found, and it is significant, is that the dust off the bedroom fan came in 48 CPM. Higher than the steady 32 cpm by the window. Not good.
Au. I used to have hepa air filter going 24 7 in sealed bedroom and could lower radiation to under .08 mcSv/hr when outside average .11 mc§/hr. And yeah what Craig said. Just because I get safe basic readings thats mostly gamma with a bit of beta maybe…..No alpha detection ability so it could be snowing plutonium and I wouldnt know. Alpha detection is problamatic with fragile mica shield and other aspects. Still in the best case a scintillator identifies isotopes. Then you can really see whats happening
@Mark, "I used to have hepa air filter going 24 7 in sealed bedroom and could lower radiation to under .08 mcSv/hr when outside average .11 mc§/hr."
It's on after the fan test. The slovenly ways are mended.
One interesting thing is though, that a year ago I tested one of the used reverse osmosis water filters at change out time and it read out in the 80s cpm. I tested another used filter 2 weeks ago and it read out an average 33 cpm over an hour. Water was cleaner and the air was more dirty. Of course, further methodical systematic testing will need to be carried out and graphed.
* That's an interesting observation about your water filters, which must have really fine, almost molecular sized pores. Like failed efforts by the National Geological Survey to filter radioactive components out of water, I failed flat with my far more humble filters/techniques. It didn't occur to me to look into reverse osmosis filters.
* Government monitoring in New Zealand runs water through what sounds like a water softener (ion exchange) and then checks what's been removed and concentrated –but with better stuff than a Geiger counter, of course.
* The standard test (I believe) is either liquid scintilation or the much more straight-forward gamma spectrometry.
Yes, that was interesting with the water filters. I was bracing myself for a higher than 80s count. Maybe the season has something to do with it. This is not our rainy season.
PS love NZ! When we were there we read the south island gets 7 meters of rain a year!
It was beautiful to see all of that water as we were coming from years of drought in Oz.
I meant to say that Craig-123 said, "* You need to become aware that plutonium is an alpha emitter, and that one has to hold an expensive, mica windowed Geiger counter in very close proximity to a sample of the stuff in order to get any alpha clicks."
WWJD, Ive been doing 10 20 and 30 minute counts randomly in the Vancouver area for coming up to 2 years. At least I know what post Fuku background is. Sure 24 hr data monitoring is better but somethings better then nothing. If a fuel pool goes I'll know about it. The Soeks is durable certified and recharges to any usb port. Ideal for evacuation.
@Mark – I did not mean to offend anyone doing that, I am sorry if I did. I was directing my comment at those that feel their scattered background readings give them the full picture and as a result make them feel safe. You clearly understand what your looking at and what might be missed taking readings that way. You are correct, your reading are better than nothing and very much appreciated when shared in this forum. Thank you.
@Mark: Doing lengthy counts does get a little "old" –years along, so thanks a lot for staying on that task –and noting your results to us.
@WWJD: I can't believe anyone has any reason to be offended by your fine efforts, reportage and comments.
* I'm the one who got things a bit out of step here by raising my hackles a bit. There are 80 or so active, concerned members of Radiation Network who've invested a lot of time, trouble, and often half a grand into the public service of reporting their CPMs. These people (Black Cat, NETC and Safecast members as well) deserve to be shown some appreciation.
I have another unit, a pancake unit inside running 24/7 on NETC. I also have an inside unit running 24/7 on Radiation Network which I became a member of before NETC. I use all of those units to confirm the rises seen outside but of course the inside units are not as easily seen since the inside units miss most/all of the beta radiation. I also have a Polimaster 1703 to verify an increase in the gamma. Nobody can tell me that the rises I am seeing are not real. They could argue what isotopes are being detected and maybe the detectors calibration so this is why I focus on simply proving a rise or fall in the radiation along with information of events (Fukushima or local NPP events) in the news.
WWJD. Not at all was I offended. Its true, having 24 hr data gathering is better then random 15 minute counts. Just wanted to point out something is better then nothing. Advantages of Soeks detector is software interpretation of data, portability and durability. I can drive around and see if different areas have different backgrounds. Main bad point is lack of a data port. So absolutely if a radiation cloud blows over in the night I miss it. But not offended. Never offended by the truth.
* THAT is excellent work, which not only clearly makes your point, but also shows the "understanding power" of graphs and data logging (manual or automatic).
* As you've pointed out, due to the dearth of other outside beta stations in your region, it's hard to determine if it's a local or more general phenomenon –but: via the membership NETC map, one can get at a good graph of the Madison EPA-RadNet beta counts (RadNet's own access system/obstacle course is nearly useless). NETC's 3 month graph indicates a hump in August, followed by a decline in September –so Jimmy-the-Greek would bet on your experience being more local than regional.
* No one should be fooled by the "it's just radon" flim-flam. An amazing amount of lead-210 near the Daiichi plants suggests that there've been large releases of radon (deep sinking corium cooking the soil? direct daughter products?). We should also be mapping legal/illegal nuke industry waste and uranium mine tailings piles plus the many abandoned mines here in the U.S.
WWJD's work has persuaded me that we need both (basically ground reading) gamma monitoring and (air/particulate reading) beta monitoring in our networks (the two types clearly distinguished from each other on our display maps). WWJD style continuous beta monitoring can be done with a simple, compact, muffin fan and filter arrangement, which I'd like to set up here in place of my (now and then) 10 cubic meter batch filtering and reading.
Yeah what Craig said. With this air filter sampling I have read about that seems ideal to even search for alpha particulate maybe? At Bingo's Eagle mountain minimalists lab close to Vancouver Canada we have a report of high average count. Still over .10 highs of .16 mc§v/hr in yellow bar of §oeks 01M. Call it still .12 mcSv/hr avg.
Half hour count outside under umbrella and inside coffee place. Raining all day.
600 ft above sea level.
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Special Weather Statement Issued by NWS Portland (Northwest Oregon and Southwest Washington)
THE JET STREAM GRADUALLY SAGS SOUTH SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY
MORNING AND BRINGS A REINFORCING PUNCH OF TROPICAL MOISTURE. THIS
DEEP PLUME OF MOISTURE IS BEING GENERATED FROM FORMER TYPHOON
PABUK THAT WAS LOCATED OFF THE EAST COAST OF JAPAN. THIS SECOND
LEADING EDGE OF RAIN WILL ARRIVE AROUND MIDDAY SATURDAY. MODERATE
TO HEAVY RAIN WILL THEN GRADUALLY SHIFT SOUTH OVER THE NEXT TWO
DAYS WITH HEAVY RAIN REACHING THE CENTRAL OREGON COAST BY EARLY
SUNDAY MORNING.
Please feel free to make use of this Green Planet FM radio interview, that provides a clear honest appraisal of the present seriousness of the Fukushima Nuclear disaster. Suggestions, tools, and other resources are mentioned in the Interview, that can be used to help you and your family stay safe and well.
Kassandra, In August and September there has been evidence of criticalities at Fukushima. This has translated into a number of alert levels detections in North America on the netc.com, and other monitoring networks. There had been lots of large steam events witnessed on the Fukushima live webcams during this time.
Thanks to enenews webcam forum commenter ‘pure water’ for the screen shots of the possible fire at reactor 3. One other suggestion is it is not a fire, they were burning off Tritium near the reactor 3 building.
Radioactive Iodine I-131 was also detected in sludge in nearby cities. There were also increased levels of Tritium, Cesium and Strontium, detected in recent tests of water from bore holes at the Fukushima nuclear plant. This all points to the possibility that underground criticalities are occurring, or have occurred, recently at the Fukushima Nuclear Disaster site.
Radiation plume after Japanese earthquake. Iodine-131 cloud reached France."
I think we were doused with fallout about 2 weeks ago.
No way to prove my hunch but everyone around me developed headaches, stomach pain, sore throats, and dizziness that lasted about 3 days or so after the ferocious precipitation we had,
None of these symptoms were contagious.
I'm pretty sure we were hit, but I suppose it could all be simply coincidental
Vital 1 I sure do appreciate the work you do with scintillation and also international monitoring. My personal readings haven't changed much wherever the jet stream is. The best I can do is report honestly. Does not mean I don't believe in the jetstream influence or I am disagreeing with anybody elses theories results or opinions. My location is different from others and obviously in your case some people have better equipment then mine. The fact you can identify isotopes allows radon or other radiation to be differenciated. Fascinating work. My mountain lab needs an upgrade. Peace
I consider this a team effort. Everyone who contributes information to this forum increase our collective knowledge of the situation, and our ability to help, and inform others.
My readings over two years hasnt changed much through various places and times in the Vancouver Canada area .11 mc§v/hr avg background. Jetstream doesnt change anything for me. Minimalist Soeks detector. Statistical graphs prove my casual observations within .01 mcSv/hr plus or minus.. Low radon area and far away from anynclear industry. Moritorium on uranium mining in bc. All this contributes to stable readings. Use data recorder if you experience high radon or live close to npp.
Hour long count today. Basic .11 mcsSv/hr. Peace.
Radiation update – South Beloit, Illinois (Wisconsin / Illinois stateline. Looking at the previous 7-days worth of data for my outside monitoring station, 9/26/2013 around 7 a.m. CST was my high for the week. How does this compare with my previous data? It is near my stations record high, that being on 9/13/2013 when compared to the past 5 months 1-day average per my http://www.NETC.com charts.
Current radiation level, it is a low activity day but levels still higher than prior to August levels. I focus on increase and decrease levels of radiation when compared to my stations previous data and therefore I do not share my (CPM) counts per minute.
I recently switched my basement radiation monitoring stations GMC-200 with a different GMC-200 in an effort to verify the steady 3-month radiation rise. I plan on doing the same with my outside radiation unit. I did notice that the nearest private NETC monitoring station to me located in MI also shows a steady climb starting in August just like my station. Unlike my outside unit, the MI station is located inside but near a window and may pick-up limited beta but obviously records gamma.
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Station ID 5:637 South Valley, NM, US
CPM: current 486 Low 187 High 541
Average 336, Deviation 45.6
(CPM of Gamma in energy range 600-800keV) http://netc.com/
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Looks like the radiation plume is traveling westward:
List of RADCON-4 sites:
5:637 near South Valley, NM, US 503 2013-09-30 17:45:00 G
4:816 near Saint George, UT, US 402 2013-09-29 13:53:00 I
5:917 near Riverside, CA, US 225 2013-09-30 17:24:00 G
4:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 90 2013-09-30 17:33:00 U
5:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 285 2013-09-30 17:33:00 U
My netc site shows increase, am on East Coast USA. Its usually around 9-16 CPM. Lots of 27 and such today, so waiting for the INCOMING. On RADCONs, they are relative, and if a station is not up and online 24/7 the radcon level may not be reliable, or that is what I am trying to figure out with my new station. Anne, click on the icon and then pull down the data info on the site in question. It will show the full data set available. Background is diff for sites, and if gamma, its much different than beta. No expert here..just doing a bit of testing with a GM300.
Sorry for the typo seen on the graph. What I tried to say was that a rise is clearly seen since July but right now I just don't know what the cause of it is from.
Even as I type this, I hear my outside NETC Raspberry Pi / GMC-200 (on an air purifier) speaking to me each current CPM above the 32 CPM warning level I have preset. I try not to speak about CPM levels on this forum, because too many get confused what is a "SAFE" level. For my stations current setup, the average is 27cpm and it alerts me by speaking the current CPM every time a CPM goes 32 or over. When I we start hearing these alerts, we come inside the house.
I know we recently had a CME and the impact from it was said to be today near afternoon time, but I expected any radiation from it to be mostly gamma. What I am detecting seems to be mostly beta or I would have seen my pancake unit (1st floor) in my house going up which I have not. The rise does seem to show on my basement unit also around the same times. I remember reading somewhere that CME's cause EQ's and that before EQ's (sometimes days in advance) excess amounts of radon gas come out of the ground. Maybe this is the cause, I am not sure.
* Separately monitoring (essentially for gamma, per your inside GC) is a good idea, such that you can more confidently report what's being caught outside as being beta.
Again: it would be great to see the monitoring community using a standard, compact, muffin fan and (replaceable) filter package for doing the work you've been reporting on –but as a _second_ monitor (gamma being the first) –and separately reported. Beta/air stations should rate a different icon on monitoring network maps.
* The square root of 27cpm is about 5, so you've set your alarm at one standard deviation high. I suggest that's a bit too alarming –and that 37 would be less stressful.
* As Japan's radioactive effluvia reaches us here on the coast (and elsewhere), we need to become aware of another beta emitter: strontium-90 –which turns into yttrium-90, also a beta emitter. The half-life of Sr-90 is years long, so it would be a real stand-out from the typical 38 minute beta decay of radon daughters.
Whereas the decay-away of radon/daughters "cleans" your air filter (but there's an accumulation of long-lived lead-210), Sr-90 is going to hang on –which is why an air filter station should regularly replace the filter.
* I broke my right leg's knee and ankle Saturday in a fall. I went down just like the old man that I am. Lots of sore muscles, fatigue and even a low fever now –so I'll probably miss responding to items in this forum for a while.
@Craig-123 I should have been more clear. Although NETC lists my overall (spikes included) station average at 27cpm, without the spikes I believe my NORM is around 19-22cpm. With the alert level set at 32cpm, there are days (10am – 10pm) it is rare for me to hear it reach that level. For our kids, I want to be safe not sorry and I believe 32cpm for my station does that.
I'm sorry to hear about your fall. Praying for a fast & full recovery.
Could somebody else go buy a box of this and test it for comparison?
It would be interesting to test, say 12 boxes, from across the country.
Doing what the EPA/FDA are supposed to do.
*Rice Chex Cereal, General Mills Corp.
"…moms love Rice Chex and Corn Chex cereals because they are low in sugar. Low in fat and cholesterol free too." – GM ad
Tetsuo yes I've noted that here before and I've wondered the same thing as mark, if it's related to increased consumer awareness or simply streamlining of labeling system.
What is interesting is in those rare occasions when i still do find state specific stickers on navel oranges and grapefruit, its always been of florida, I haven't seen a california sticker on a navel orange in a long while. But this is just my personal experience, not a very scientific.
It will be interesting to observe how the 'locally grown' section in Whole Foods in California changes its marketing.
Tetsuo_Shima, up here in Canada? Yes. Not sure if its to do with Fukushima or the general disturbing trend of streamlining food labels in general which is government pandering to the food industry.
Today, I did a one hour count in which background radiation was aprox. 10% over normal which realistically translates to .12 or .13mcSv/hr which is within normal background levels generally. However not normal readings for me. Readings taken downtown Vancouver Canada, not my normal location. Using Soeks 01M.
If battery holds up I will do another test at my usual Eagle Mt. location later tonight.
Here is a screen shot of just one of many Japan radiation monitoring stations. I labeled all the spikes with the dates. Maybe some can match these spikes with their personal rain swipe samples. Of course add 3-days or so for travel time to the U.S.
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New, here, there is lots of information in these free guides, and links that will help you.
Here is an International list of Radiation monitoring stations.
http://sccc.org.au/international-radiation-monitoring-stations
For those who can't afford the type of test equipment below, "The Food Lab", has a list of the latest international reports of food contamination,
http://sccc.org.au/archives/2861
Free Geiger Counter Use Guide.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Using-a-Geiger-Counter-to-test-food-for-Radioactive-Contamination.pdf
DIY Food testing lab Guide
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/How-to-set-up-a-home-or-community-food-testing-lab-for-radioactive-contamination.pdf
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Alert level Tipspy in Fredrick, Wisconsin ~ 1,273 feet ~ Geiger Counter Inspector EXP+
Elapsed Minutes 469 ~ Maximum 100 CPM occurred 1:50:10 PM EST
Average CPM 64
Minimum CPM 39
Maximum CPM 100
Beginning time 09/19/13 08:29:04 AM
Ending time 09/19/13 04:17:40 PM
Report from,
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Radwatch-Dot-Info/167325596740431
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Did a few 15 minute counts in various locations around Vancouver, Canada. Low average background of barely .10 µSv/hr all locations. Last count aprox. 3 hrs ago.
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Australia,
Queensland
Sunshine Coast
Preliminary report of rain event detections
Location
http://sccc.org.au/monitoring/Australian-Map.jpg
"Alert Caloundra report 17th September 2013 – Storms overnight here, so I took rain swab off a car this morning. On testing it peaked at approximately 6 uSv/hr (1800 cpm) using two Russian SBM-20 tubes, and Theremino Geiger kit. Again it is suggested to stay out of the rain. This rain sample is decaying quickly which suggests it is a large radon washout."
The long period Geiger counter test chart indicated the presence of other Isotopes besides Radon washout decay daughters. (So it was placed in the scintillator lead test chamber for further testing.)
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Rain-swab-Caloundra-180913-AV-TV48-+-B-+-text.jpg
Day average background levels have been very volatile here the last 11 days. September 2013 day average chart.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Caloundra-local-average-background-radiation-levels-September-2013.jpg
NOTE: Scintillator testing of the rain swab collected on the 18th September at Caloundra, is indicating the presence of a Zeolite type material. A source of this could be volcanic ash from the recent Indonesian volcanic eruptions.
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When testing is complete, the full report will be posted here. The scintillator test chart will be provided soon. Preliminary analysis also indicates the presence of trace amounts of Iodine I-129, and Lead Pb-210.
Another report indicating recent Fukushima releases went far and wide.
"Radiation plume after Japanese earthquake. Iodine-131 cloud reached France."
http://optimalprediction.com/wp/radiation-plume-after-japanese-earthquake-iodine-131-cloud-reached-france/
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List of RADCON-4 sites:
5:115 near Burlington, VT, US 238 2013-09-22 05:19:00 G
5:204 near New York City, NY, US 284 2013-09-22 05:53:00 G
5:306 near Richmond, VA, US 286 2013-09-22 05:41:00 G
5:308 near Charlotte, NC, US 331 2013-09-22 05:08:00 G
5:311 near Philadelphia, PA, US 261 2013-09-22 05:24:00 G
5:631 near Laredo, TX, US 251 2013-09-22 05:31:00 U
4:816 near Saint George, UT, US 352 2013-09-21 15:28:00 U
http://www.netc.com/
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Reposting from the Webcam thread… never seen these types of numbers, but I'm not as vigilant as you all.
Anyone checking the Rad levels over there? I just pulled this from Netc.com. I don't have file hosting to capture a screenshot, but I saved one, and some of you should archive it too. We should be getting blasted in a few days if this is another big event…
152000 <——- !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Station ID 6:1181341550 Fukushima Dai-ichi, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 152000 Low 141000 High 156000
Average 149283, Deviation 3912
Click here for data charts
Last updated: 2013-09-21 14:30:00 GMT+0000
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Hi Sixela: The NETC members (only) map/access shows that Station ID 6:1181341550 has been cooling off from a high of 177,000 in March. That's listed in units of "nSv/hr", which equals 177uSv/hr –which equals 17,700 uR/hr –which would ring up about 62,000cpm on an Inspector Geiger counter or a Mazur-9000.
Be my guess that Daiichi station has parked its Geiger counter near a stray piece of fuel rod or some "black stuff".
Technocracy + Plutocracy
Again: we as citizens struggle to even comprehend the terminologies of what's being done to us. True understanding (if not the "deciding" –Obama's and Abe's puppet masters do that) is the provenance of a lab coated priesthood.
The advance of technology and techno-speak make an informed democracy a pipe dream. (Same goes for issues about GMOs, nano technologies, pharmaceutical and psychiatric frauds, fracking and etc. It took us decades to regulate asbestos, lead content and DDT –in our "free enterprise", "money is speech" society.
Big money has persuaded the election of a freshman Republican Congress which is in denial about global warming, carbon dioxide and fracking hazards. The minority of the populace which has a handle on some of these issues has been persuaded not to vote Green Party, lest more of these Randites, neocons and GOP Christian fundamentalist boogeymen get into office.
The people _did_ vote Green in Germany. Now their nukes are all scheduled to get phased out.
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@Craig-123 – I enjoyed this rant. You said, "Congress which is in denial about global warming" which I disagree with. I believe they are simply taking money to look the other way on all the issues you spoke of and more.
On the GMO topic…
Move Over, Round-up: USDA Approves 2nd Generation GMOs That Can Withstand Even Deadlier Herbicide – See more at: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/move-over-round-up-usda-approves-2nd-generation-gmos-that-can-withstand-even-deadlier-herbicide_092013#sthash.ck3NUXxZ.dpuf
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Sorry, I forgot to add my 24 hour radiation reading update to the above post/reply.
South Beloit, IL. Illinois/Wisconsin state line. Within the past 24 hours (9-21-2013 8pm CST to 9-22-2013 9am CST) I have seen a climb on my outside station, inside pancake unit and another inside station I have setup inside a house 30 miles South of me. The peak seen on my outside unit was not outside of the normal (using the word normal very loosely) peaks seen beginning August 29th of 2013. The levels have since dropped down as I continue to monitor 24/7 using http://www.NETCcom
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@Vital1: * Here's a more elaborate response than I recently made to Eatlies.
* Since "staying out of the rain" is not an option in Oregon, I have a passing interest in alternative explanations –like: how about cleaning half the hood of your car (when it starts to rain) and doing wipes on both halves –so that the possibility of road dust, or other (non-rain) airborne dust is eliminated? (In which case, the already decayed dust would have been originally very hot indeed).
The dust particles involved tend to be positively ionized, such that a negatively charged (or simply grounded) metal plate (or car, or wire) attracts more. Modern tires are supposed to be conductive enough to drain off that static charges (which use to zap me as a kid 60 years ago), but that varies with tires being wet or not. A grounding rod connected to a (regularly cleaned) bare metal plate (of a specified size –1/10th square meter, say) would be more scientific. You'd completely wipe that plate with paper toweling which is also of a specified exposed size (to closely match the area spanned by two SBM-20 tubes –say), fold it in half to protect the deposit, press it dry between a pair of dry towels, bring it inside and open it again to be read at (say) exactly 3 minutes after the wiping, then place the toweling (say) 1 centimeter away from and parallel to the (plastic film protected) G-M tubes –then start charting the decay curve.
Or some similar but consistent method.
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I do understand the use of an efficient testing area and methodology.
The more people think of the details and follow procedures properly and consistently the better they will become at giving an 'as accurate as possible' meaningful reading.
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Just an idea.
How about pouring tap water over the hood before leaving the garage and taking a measurement. That would be a probable 'baseline' for what the wet swab was off of the dusty car prior to driving in the rain.
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Alert Level Georgia USA 789 uR/hr (microRem per Hour) showing up on Black Cat Systems at present. It maybe an equipment fault or false alarm, keep and eye on it just in case. There is a slight elevation 50 cpm on a station in the same state, on Radiation network at present.
Here is a screen shot.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Black-cat-systems-230913-789-alert-level.jpg
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Blackcatsystems
http://www.blackcatsystems.com/RadMap/map.html
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Oh –not to worry, Vital1 –per: "Are your friends panicked by media coverage of the event? Share this page so they can see things are currently normal" –at the top of the page.
That station is still at 739 (9/23 – 00:26 hours UT/GMT), but nothing special via NETC or that station in Georgia via Radiation Network –which is coded standard yellow (means not upward trending).
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Yes Graig-123, the other networks are not indicating anything significant in Georgia, except one of the Radiation Network stations near there is slightly elevated at 51 cpm now.
At these detections levels it is worth keeping a close eye on it, until more information is available on whether this is a false alarm, or a localized event.
http://www.radiationnetwork.com/index.htm
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Radiation Network showed nothing as our babies were getting a 40,000+ microsieverts dose, nothing that Radiation Network shows should be reassuring:
"The DITTRA result was four rem [40,000 microsieverts] to the thyroid of a one year-old child based on one year integration of uptake"
http://enenews.com/controversy-after-govt-estimate-showed-40000-microsievert-thyroid-dose-california-infants-after-fukushima-very-high-doses-children-releasing-info-public/comment-page-1#comments
The only "panic" that seems to be reliable is panic the nuclear mafia (corporate industry/government) reveals whenever there is the slightest hint that the public may find out any of the truth of their own destruction.
Nuclear reacts to try to cover anything up. For example, when there are spikes of radiation in Japan, these are sometimes followed by a sea of "green" on netc.com, because the EPA seems to just shut most of everything off, as they likely are today.
This happened at the end of August, and now it is happening after the spike in radiation after the earthquake in Japan last week.
Radiation plume after Japanese earthquake. Iodine-131 cloud reached France.
Posted on September 21, 2013
A 5.8 earthquake rocked Japan just south of the Fukushima area shortly after midnight on September 20 (Japan time). Apparently radiation measurements in this area have temporarily spiked.
http://optimalprediction…
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The reason for the obesity in the USA is failing thyroids due to Nuclear Radiation Contamination. Chernobyl, TMI and other Nuclear Power Plants here are leaking like a sieve..
http://health.yahoo.net/experts/dayinhealth/why-thyroid-cancer-fastest-rising-cancer-women
http://news.yale.edu/videos/thyroid-cancer-epidemic-tracking-americas-fastest-growing-cancer
Results were seen immediately after Fuksuhima and she really needs to redo this video! There is no reason to look any further and Pennsylvania rates skyrocketed too after TMI!
Breast cancer rates are also directly linked to Nuclear Radiation Contamination!
Why haven't these supposedly educated people woken up yet?
A shit storm of Radiation Contamination heads this/comith this way!
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Dear NoNukes,
* Yes: I was monitoring at the time, and aside from car wipe scares, I don't recall anything special showing up during private monitoring with common Geiger counters^.
* That 4 Rems was an estimate of the annual dose to kids drinking milk for a year (*key*) _IF_ SFP #4 spilled (and consequently the whole collection of horrors in the Daiichi complex, I presume).
* And guess what: that Damocles sword is still hanging over our heads!
* Right: it does seem they weren't going to tell us: too many people to evacuate, public panic, bad for business and the nuclear industry. You know the drill on that.
* Private monitoring with Geiger counters, even with GCs having good beta and alpha sensitivity, is basically about reading what's on and under the soil. The particles which blew our way would be tough to detect, even with the serious air filtering effort I made. (Scores of 10 cubic meter air draws, plenty of radon daughters, but no "hot particle" residuals detected here.) I even used film for a while –like the Fairewinds lab (Kaltofen's work).
I did manage to image a bit of slightly radioactive ink from a Japanese pen –that I happened to use for marking the filters, but was unable to duplicate that detection with pens bought at a later date.
** If you check Radiation Network's archived log of spikes (incomplete, but not selectively so) at:
> http://www.radiationnetwork.com/Message.htm
–you'll see that RN doesn't hold back.
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Radiation Network doesn't seem to hold back on the malarky.
There is fuel fissioning in the open air upwind of the United States, but the explanations in the link above point away from that likely source of radiation to much less likely sources of radiation, like a radioactive patient just happening to walk by…
"This pattern could be explained by brief handling of a radioactive sample, or momentary passing of a human still radioactive from a medical test, but the operator claims neither."
Radiation Network failed in the worst way, it showed nothing when we know we had aerosolized plutonium flying by making its way to Lithuania, it should apologize for its failure, explain that it has been proven to be unreliable, and remove the website, instead of its members falsely suggesting that it is somehow reliable source for radiation readings, "so not to worry."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22206700
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2012/03/plutonium-admission-by-epa.html
It couldn't help the nuclear industry more than it already has.
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Correct!
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Radiation plume after Japanese earthquake. Iodine-131 cloud reached France.
Posted on September 21, 2013
A 5.8 earthquake rocked Japan just south of the Fukushima area shortly after midnight on September 20 (Japan time). Apparently radiation measurements in this area have temporarily spiked.
In a previous discussion Iodine-131 from latest criticality it was noted that the iodine spike in Chiba prefecture sludge was deposited in the period August 7 through August 20. According to CRIIRAD, Montélimar, France had spikes in alpha and beta atmospheric radiation on September 4-7. Rhône river water in Avignon showed a spike in iodine-131 on Sept. 7. The iodine cloud must have widened and dispersed quite a bit in its journey across the northern hemisphere… and 75% or more of it would have decayed by the time it reached France. So it must have been quite a substantial radioactive cloud…
Fukushima not only affects Japan, but the Pacific ocean, North America, and Europe too. Australia has had average radiation levels increase substantially, also.
http://optimalprediction.com/wp/radiation-plume-after-japanese-earthquake-iodine-131-cloud-reached-france/
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NoNukes,
I recently posted this I-129 detection report for the Southern Hemisphere.
9th September 2013 – I recently collected 82 grams of moss that had been growing in roof gutter here, and tested it. It was very wet here for the first half of 2013. August has had no rain, so the moss sample was dry. Sample collected here on the east coast of Australia.
http://sccc.org.au/detection-of-radioactive-iodine-i-129-in-roof-gutter-moss-australia
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Sixela,
Greetings from Eagle Mt, near Vancouver, Canada. Yes Yes having those monitoring stations data with local weather readings of wind direction, easy to google, coordinated with the valuable work you guys do is an excellent idea.
Presently I am reporting average readings here 20 min. count low .07 to a high of .13 avge .10 all mcSv/hr . Good point Craig you divide by 1000 to get the more popular microSv per hour for the Fukushima Rad monitoring stations.
However, especially with the nuclear industry, Plutocracy can be mated to Regulatory Capture with excellent results if your an operator of a crippled Nuclear Power Plant facility.
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NoNukes, I didnt see your post when I started mine above. Sorry it looks like I'm talking over your post but purely unintentional. Cheers.
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Harlan, please or anyone else who knows Trying to copy and paste netc station thats "fukushima daina" so hard to navigate with this android phone. Reading showed average, high and low all at 300 nanoSv/hr.
I understand these numbers provided by Tepco or somebody else?
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Sorry the android phone isn't good for this. Here is what I'm talking about.
300
Station ID 6:2430292483 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-7, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 300 Low 300 High 300
Average 300, Deviation 0
This must be info from Tepco. How can this be real data? .3 µSv/hr posted for average current low and high?
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You are right your android phone sucks. The reading from Netc.com Fukushima Dai-ni MP-7 is 3300 not 300.
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Harlan, the post above yours contained cut and paste using Apple laptop last night. This is what I see just now. Copied and posted just now.
300
Station ID 6:2430292483 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-7, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 300 Low 300 High 300
Average 300, Deviation 0
Just curious what your sources are, recognizing that you can't have control over your sources. I don't know how you differentiate between an individual source or a government source. This one looks suspicious. By the way your web-site is awesome but the android phone does suck trying to zoom right in on your map. But considering what James Bond had when I was growing up aside from the Aston Martin, the android phone/computer/camera/etc. etc. is a technical marvel.
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@Mark – The Japan station sources were posted here on NETC forum back in March when they were added to the network:
https://www.netc.com/bb/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=166
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WWJD, thanks for responding. For a casual observer it is not clear where the info is coming from although obviously with the Dai-ni and Dai-ichi stations its not a worker hanging his GMC-200 out the lunchroom window. The Dai-ni #7 readings are suspicious to me as no variation is reported and the high, low, average and current readings all show .3 µSv/hr. The other Dai-ni readings for 1 through 6 show some fluctuation. If the detector for #7 isn't close to a consistent low radiation emmitter and they are not fixing the results I have no technical explanation for this except actual readings are much higher and they are lying to us. Pure speculation on my part as there might well be a reasonable explanation. See below results of all Dai-ni stations plus closest town and finally central Dai-ichi (Fukushima plant)readings
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Harlan maybe you are talking about this one.
3100
Station ID 6:3859995017 Fukushima Dai-ichi MP-7, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 3100 Low 3000 High 3500
Average 3311, Deviation 122.5
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Radiation climbiing in Detroit. EPA turns down monitor. EPA recalibrates it make it look ok.
http://epa.gov/radnet/radnet-data/radnet-detroit-bg.html
Radiation going up in San Francisco but still at RADCON 1
http://www.netc.com
Let's keep an eye on what happens on the west coast. Rain forecast in Washington and Oregon.
http://www.intellicast.com/National/Precipitation/PrecipCast.aspx
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As an owner of several geiger counter stations on NETC.com it upsets me how we all know that we can not fully trust the EPA to tell us the truth (or in a timely manner) but there still are so few private monitoring stations out there. Spend the $85 from GQ Electronics for a GMC-200 and hook it up for FREE to NETC, it is so easy! Just think of how many private radiation stations we would have to review radiation readings from if everyone posting on EneNews had one sharing their data with the world.
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New Radiation Plume Expected To Hit West Coast Of America On Tuesday 9/24/2013
http://beforeitsnews.com/environment/2013/09/fukushima-doom-confirmed-france-hit-by-iodine-131-cloud-while-new-radiation-plume-expected-to-hit-west-coast-of-america-on-tuesday-2480476.html
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Bay Area to Eureka, Calif. @ RADCOM 3.
netc.com
Jet stream over the area now.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/national/weather-surface-maps
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Thanks, Au. The jet stream has been favoring San Francisco a lot lately, lucky us. My thyroid was bothering me a lot on Saturday (we had very unusual rain), which is why I didn't believe the sea of green on netc.com further downwind yesterday, although it looks like the EPA may have turned a the reporting back on a bit right now.
5:637 near South Valley, NM, US 444 2013-09-24 12:43:00 G
4:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 71 2013-09-24 12:23:00 U
5:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 277 2013-09-24 12:23:00 U
4:956 near Phoenix, AZ, US 225 2013-09-24 12:07:00 G
5:956 near Phoenix, AZ, US 368 2013-09-24 12:07:00 G
http://www.netc.com/activealerts.php
I doubt the lows being reported in the northeast today.
My thyroid had been bothering me every day the jet stream has been here, including today. We have been under the jet stream for the better part of the last two weeks. High energy family members are fatigued.
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We have to remember that NETC.com can only update the EPA stations data as it becomes available from the EPA, which is about once every 6 hours or more. Look at each site in question to see when it was last updated. This will help to explain why for example, my outside geiger counter might be showing a rise when my local EPA site still shows green.
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NoNukes, I'm so sorry to hear about the swelling of your glandular geiger counter. I hope your thyroid settles down and returns to normal soon. I'm thinking a lot of people must be having the same sensation but they don't know how to recognize it or if they do feel it- they don't link it to Fuku.
WWJD and NoNukes – EPA likes to keep those dots in the green don't they?
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@Au – What I believe I have seen several times is when an event starts to show up on the EPA's readings (due to local NPP venting or Fuku jetstream) that station goes offline and when it returns there are gaps in the times recorded – missing data. I can not stress enough how important it is for all of us to setup even a low cost GMC-200 geiger counter monitoring station. I only stress using http://www.NETC.com because it is FREE to setup your monitoring station, unlike other private networks offering the same type of service. Furthermore, I own both Black Cat Systems and Radiation Network and I believe NETC is the best currently available.
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You are right. That is probably protocol to turn it off when readings start climbing. I also see that they do zero down a reading– straight down–like they are playing with a etch-a- sketch.
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Thanks, Au and WWJD. I meant to call attention to what the EPA is doing, not implicate netc, as netc.com makes the EPA's habits more visible.
I think your right, Au, that people don't realize what the sensation means, it took me a while, and I have a smaller thyroid than normal from taking synthetic thyroid medication.
For those who are interested, the thyroid is in the front of your neck, on either side. If you covered the front of your neck with your hand, your thyroid would be underneath.
The thyroid takes up radioactive iodine, and when this happens there is a swelling, an light ache, unless there is a lot, then it can be quick intense.
If you notice a sensation in the front of your neck, check out the jet stream.
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@NoNukes- oh yes! I understood you and it's good to clarify for newbies.
When the thyroid gets real swollen it can also be hard to swallow or it feels like there is a lump in the throat. Mine was that bad for a couple of weeks. It seems to have settled down. When it is swollen people may find they don't want anything around their neck like a tie, tight collar or a short necklace, etc.
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I sleep/rest/lie down most of the day…I thought that was normal!
Aren't we all suppose to feel like shit most of every day?
Sometimes I will just lay on the ground under a big oak tree and then watch all the chemtrails when they are active, but even then I feel tired.
At least there are no squirrels, birds or wild life blocking my vision and hopefully those massive trees will stop sprouting their leaves in the near future.
One can only hope!
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Obewan, maybe you need to buy a geiger counter and start posting levels. Might take your mind off of your troubles!
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This has shown same for days on android and others.
300
Station ID 6:2430292483 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-7, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 300 Low 300 High 300
Average 300, Deviation 0
rest of Dai-ni
900
Station ID 6:2042165046 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-1, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 900 Low 800 High 900
Average 891, Deviation 28.7
600
Station ID 6:3769738892 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-2, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 600 Low 600 High 700
Average 603, Deviation 18.1
900
Station ID 6:2545325594 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-3, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 900 Low 800 High 900
Average 897, Deviation 17.3
800
Station ID 6:164758457 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-4, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 800 Low 800 High 900
Average 835, Deviation 47.8
800
Station ID 6:2127901487 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-5, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 800 Low 700 High 800
Average 800, Deviation 2.1
400
Station ID 6:3889980053 Fukushima Dai-ni MP-6, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 400 Low 300 High 400
Average 400, Deviation 5.3
Compare closest city
80
Station ID 6:3254800826 Iwaki City, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 80 Low 80 High 21000
Average 196, Deviation 1516.2
Finally compare to disaster central
154000
Station ID 6:1181341550 Fukushima Dai-ichi, Fukushima, JP
nSv/h: current 154000 Low 141000 High 156000
Average 149413, Deviation 3964.5
at level 2 rising
Just that #7 Dai-ni reading of a constant 300 nSv/hr is fishy to me as no deviation whatsoever. Problems at Dai-ni?
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All above numbers courtesy of http://netc.com/
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I was going to say the same thing. The numbers do not change. Impossible.
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In fact, Harlans source is http://jciv.iidj.net/map/ and their source is Tepco, Japan Regulation Authority and perhaps others.
I havn't checked all stations yet.
I can't find the station I questioned, Fukushima Dai-ni #7 on the jciv although I did earlier. Seems to have disapeared.
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Sorry, two sources I found so far, Tepco and Japan nuclear regulation authority, posting on http://jciv.iidj.net/map/
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Snapshot of my NETC outside monitoring station graph to date, with comments & points of interest: http://postimg.org/image/rnj3fso25/
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I forgot to note that the graph is showing the readings as 1-day averages. Please focus more on the patterns which show a rise & fall in the readings/graph and the dates of those vs. Fukushima events/news releases. For example, the increased news in July & August about increased water leaks and steam releases from Fukushima.
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South Beloit, Illinois radiation reading today has reached a level close to the highest level I have previously record, September 14, 2013.
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Do you think this might be a build-up of radiation in the soil?
http://s21.postimg.org/cfve762g7/NETC_Basement_South_Beloit_IL_9_25_2013_1142am_C.jpg
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WWJD, your living in a high radon area according to this map which you have probably seen http://www.epa.gov/radon/states/illinois.html also Illinois has a lot of NPP as does the whole Great Lakes area. Many local sources and if Fukushima adds to this is hard to say. My readings near Vancouver Canada remain pretty consistent and you would think Fukushima would affect me more then you. Intuitively if a fuel pool collapses I would be happier living in Illinois then the west coast.
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Mark- yeah. I go around and around in my head about where is a good place to live in the USA. Like you said, Illinois and Detroit are farther from Fuku but then there are the scads of aging NPPs in the MW and the Great Lakes (including Canada's)- sigh. Move out to the western deserts and one gets Fuku'ed a lot quicker and/or for instance in Colorado- fuku'ed and also one gets leftovers from the 2000 uranium mines Annie was talking about. I know there were some problems in Park City, Utah. Some houses were built on top of uranium tailings. It's all a gamble. Tired of thinking about it. It's the impossible rubik's cube. I think of my friends living down on the Mornington Pennisula in Australia. They don't have a care in the world. They can breathe the air, walk barefoot, swim in the beautiful ocean, grow wonderful gardens, eat local seafood and all with no worries.
GD NPPs.
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It, like a lot of states, is FULL of toxic, radioactive waste sites, plus assorted military and civilian nuclear facilities. It is a rat's nest of radiation.. buy a meter and carry it with you…
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/nuclear-reactor-chicago-pile-i-hidden.html
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/radium-girls-radium-dials-ottowa.html
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Yes, there, seriously, is nowhere to move that is free of it in the US. Exasperating.
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I was even looking at the Virgin Islands for a while, but no. At the equator or below. Watch out for that South Atlantic "Anomaly!"
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I know! Every night I ask to have a vision that tells me how to save my birth family- there close to you in santa cruz and how to save the kids and the dolphins and earth. My healthy sweet easy going mother just emailed me and said the dentist would not work on her tooth yesterday because her blood pressure was too high. WHAT?! This is so unusual and it makes me think cesium might be to blame. effn nuclear. This is how fuku plays out it's insidious invisible assaults.
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I'm sorry about your mom, Au. A grain-free diet with good fats like avocado, coconut oil, etc. plus omegas, magnesium, VitD, can be amazing for lowering blood pressure.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/10/08/discover-the-secret-to-lowering-your-blood-pressure-in-15-minutes.aspx
You are coming straight here once you have the vision, right, Au?
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@Mark – Thanks for posting the link to the radon map, others will find it very useful. Radon is often not looked at seriously by people. I already knew my area was high in radon, the radon pump I installed has worked wonders as I noted on the graph above. I really wanted to just through out the question and see what others thought the reason for the climb might be. It has been such a slow climb over the months. Maybe I should even replace the geiger counter to rule out it as a source of the slow climb.
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The bottom line is we need more stations around the world but until then we work with the information that we have. Netc.com does the best to tell the public where the radiation is increasing, we all know that any radiation is bad.
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More independant stations are needed. The distrust thinking people have to government radiation reports and government in general is huge. Thank the internet which makes it harder for governments to lie. I found my Fukushima Dai-ni 7 station on the japanese map. You need to zoom right up close to see it. Harlan, yours is a good system as at a glance you can see what areas are experiencing increases. Takes time for people like me with no background in radiation to figure it out but now that I have I do appreciate your system.
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Today appears to be a bad rad day. Worse than yesterday, when the French blog predicted we would get fallout. Is the reason that levels drop so much over night because of radiation + Sun? Just curious. I try to check in the AM and PM.
I am fascinated by the fact that even when levels in DC and Richmond, VA spike, Alexandria, VA is always very low. I wonder where that station is.
Anyone with historical data want to check on this for me?
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Sixla- yeah, I see when the sun goes down so do the readings. I also found that while flying (in a plane of course, lol) the readings go down. It's better to fly at night for less radiation unless of course you are flying in the jetstream full of evil rads from Fukushima. Then it can be bad anytime of the day.
I see that waft of rads is now moving eastwards.
http://www.netc.com
I used to check Harrisburg on Alexander Higgin's site for radiation levels. Harrisburg's beta count was really high. I could swear I used to check Alexandria but maybe I am dreaming. If I unearth historical data I will post it.
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Most of my lowest 24/7 outside geiger counter (on face of air purifier) readings are in the PM but not all of them. The early a.m. hours seem to be the highest for me. (Wisconsin – Illinois stateline)
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Alexandria is a Netc.com account that is location in a Apt. complex, inside. I wish it was outside but something is better than nothing.
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Harlan, yeah, that would be good.
I went outside and took a reading today in the breeze and it read an average of 32cpm and .11 microsievert. Southeast MI.
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I forgot to say that is the average, for here, since I got my GC in 2011.
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Fukushima Daichi Radiation Level 152,000 nSv/Hr. Sept 24th, 2013; via @AGreenRoad
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/09/fukushima-daichi-radiation-level-152000.html
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Au Im sure youve seen these but heres another map this one shows the canadian ones too https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-U6TPdKdAw7s/TYe2PO3R2kI/AAAAAAAAAYU/dvWa5VsMNik/s1600/north_america.png
Today took two separate twenty minute counts in vancouver area. Same basic normal readings. 0.11 microSv/hr avg
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Mark- that's a nice map to share. Thanks! Most people are not aware of how many nuke plants there are, as you know. There are a heap of them and they are all getting old, as you know. That would be good to share and then add "And if the grid goes down…we're stuffed or if one has a meltdown- see look at here–the wind will carry the radiation to places far away and ruin the surroundings for scads of human generations."
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This is a very useful link. Just enter your zip code and it tells you how many miles away they are from you plus the EPA evacuation zones. Of course we know the EPA safe/evacuation zones do not mean much.
http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/nuclear_power_plants_locations/
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WWJD- great link! Oh my, my. I am only 34 miles from one npp and 61 from another one. Red zone for two! And I was worried about cell phone towers when locating somewhere to move to 3 years ago : /
So bad.
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"Bobby1
on September 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm said:
Arkansas radioactive rain measurement, Sept. 20. About 27 times background.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5GagenFbjY&feature=youtu.be
http://optimalprediction.com/wp/general-discussion/comment-page-7/#comment-16337
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Reports for the Alert Rain Event detected at Caloundra and Nimbin September 2013
Australia,
Queensland
Sunshine Coast
Location
http://sccc.org.au/monitoring/Australian-Map.jpg
This short animation shows Northern, and Southern Hemisphere air circulation. It clearly shows why we can get detections so far south. There is more equatorial barrier circulation break through during warmer months than winter.
Summary of Report
The storms passed over the Nimbin area on the 16th, and Caloundra area on the evening of the 17th, and early morning of the 18th. Rain swabs were collected from both these rain events, and analyzed.
1. The rain swab collected at Caloundra was tested and found to contain both the decay daughters of both Radon-222, and Radon-220. It is common to get Radon-222 washouts, not Radon-220. Radon-222 is from the Uranium decay chain, and Radon-220 is from the Thorium decay chain.
This theory has been put forward by a contact in New Zealand. The Radon-220 decay daughter isotope detection here, is an indication that one or more of the underground coriums at Fukushima undergoing fast neutron fission. One or more coriums are possibly purifying, and operating in a mode of unmoderated fission. This would increase the yields of Thorium daughters.
2. Trace amounts of longer lived isotopes for Iodine I-129, Uranium U-235, Be-7 and Lead Pb-210 where also detected. This is not good, but probably far less than areas in the Northern Hemisphere are…
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3. Here are some other theories why large Radon washout events are becoming more common.
Some of the very large Radon washouts that are occurring in Nimbin area may be related to the geography of the location. Why we have concerns about large Radon washout events.
http://www.radonseal.com/radon-health.htm
For more Technical details, charts and analysis, read on. (Comments, corrections, and suggestions are welcome)
"Alert Caloundra report 18th September 2013 – Storms overnight here, so I took rain swab off a car this morning. On testing it peaked at approximately 6 uSv/hr (1800 cpm) using two Russian SBM-20 tubes, and Theremino Geiger kit. Again it is suggested to stay out of the rain. This rain sample is decaying quickly which suggests it was a large Radon-222 washout."
This long period Geiger counter test chart indicated the presence of other Isotopes besides Radon-222 washout decay daughters.
Geiger Counter Test Chart
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Rain-swab-Caloundra-180913-AV-TV48-+-B-+-text.jpg
Explanation of Geiger Counter charts
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Rain-swab-090613-Radon-decay-+-text.jpg
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Scintillator test chart
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Rain-swab-Caloundra-18th-September-2013-TV5-20c-93456-+-zeolite-+-text.jpg
The main peaks are decay daughter isotopes of Radon-220, Lead Pb-212 (238 keV), X-ray at 77 keV, and Thalium Tl-208 (511, 583 keV), plus peaks for long lived isotopes of Iodine I-129, Uranium U-235, Beryllium Be-7, and Lead Pb-210. Because the rain swab scintillator test was started less than 24 hours after it was collected, there are some Radon-222 decay daughter isotopes of Lead Pb-214 and Bismuth Bi-214 also present.
Day average background levels have also been very volatile in this area for last 14 days, recently hitting 30% above the pre-Fukushima 4 year average.
September 2013 day average chart.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Caloundra-local-average-background-radiation-levels-September-2013.jpg
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Alert Nimbin Monitoring Station report 16th September 2013 – Nimbin is located on the east coast of northern New South Wales Australia.
“…Rain began this morning…. drove to town about midday, got home about 30min ago and sat my SBT 10 on the roof of the car, as I gathered my things out of the back seat, and it started beeping. It was reading 0.38uSv/h….moments later I took a swab off the whole car roof (small sedan) and put it to my LND 7317 and got ~6500CPM for the first few minutes. I’ll send a photo and chart soon….” Here is the decay chart and detection photo of this detection, kindly provided by the Ninbim radiation monitoring station operator.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Nimbin-rain-swab-decay-chart-and-detection-16th-september-2013.jpg
NOTE: We haven’t seen any studies on the heath effects of being exposed to large Radon washout events like this. It is only a suggestion to take these precautions in the Rain Alert emails. If you live in the area, it is suggested to stay out of the rain during these events, plus keep children and pets out of it also. If you do get wet, have a good shower. It maybe a very large radon washout event, that seems to be common to the Nimbin area. This rain washout could also have other isotopes in it. Without further testing with better equipment, there is no way of knowing.
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Another report indicating recent Fukushima releases went far and wide.
"Radiation plume after Japanese earthquake. Iodine-131 cloud reached France."
http://optimalprediction.com/wp/radiation-plume-after-japanese-earthquake-iodine-131-cloud-reached-france/
Disclaimer: This is an amateur volunteer run service. Human error can provide incorrect information, and equipment malfunction can produce false readings. Do not rely on, or take action upon information presented here, without further research.
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Here are the links that I pointed to, and didn't show the html code in the above report.
This short animation shows Northern, and Southern Hemisphere air circulation. It clearly shows why we can get detections so far south. There is more equatorial barrier circulation break through during warmer months than winter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh011eAYjAA
3. Here are some other theories why large Radon washout events are becoming more common.
http://sccc.org.au/monthly-report-on-the-local-background-radiation-levels/#October-2012-report
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@NoNukes –per:
> http://enenews.com/forum-post-radiation-monitoring-data-april-30-2012-present/comment-page-34#comment-389364
* You need to become aware that plutonium is an alpha emitter, and that one has to hold an expensive, mica windowed Geiger counter in very close proximity to a sample of the stuff in order to get any alpha clicks.
* While the dust mote "fuel fleas" which reached us (right after the initial Fukushima events) only amounted to something like one per cubic meter of air, pounds of the stuff could land in my front yard here and it wouldn't show up on my daily data logging. That would be true of nearly everyone in our 4 private networks.
* Mine was one of a few private stations (for over a year) which filtered air and read the filters for residuals. I went so far as to expose dozens of filters in contact with high speed film emulsions, but all I found was some faintly radioactive ink from a pen manufactured in Japan (which I'd used to mark some of the filters –my bad).
* I'm interested in how you became confident enough in your convictions to malign the earnest efforts of Radiation Network.
I suggest that you get more acquainted with radiation detection by buying a Geiger counter. (#1 is to keep it free of contamination and moisture.)
Read the manual. Prove to yourself what it can do and what it can not do. Develop a methodical approach to monitoring, and start keeping a data log.
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Craig123, I am stating a fact. Even in the initial days, at the very least, we had multiple level 7 events upwind of the United States, and Radiation Network gave no indication that anything of that magnitude was occurring.
Do you disagree with this, did Radiation Network give an indication of these catastrophic events?
"On 22.03.2011 the French Institut de Radioprotection et de Sûreté Nucléaire (IRSN) (www.irsn.fr) published an estimation covering reactors 1 – 3 and the time period between 12.03.2011 and 22.03.2011: 90,000 TBq j-131, 10,000 TBq Cs-137 (plus specification covering other nuclides).
On 22.03.2011 the Austrian Zentralanstalt für Meteorologie und Geodynamik (ZAMG) (www.zamg.ac.at) published estimations covering the total release of J-131 and Cs-137 in the first four days. This estimation has been specified on the 23.03.2011: 400,000 TBq J- 131, 85,000 TBq Cs-137." http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/PageFiles/285414/greenpeace_hirsch_INES_report_25032011.pdf
How many level seven events would we need in order for Radiation Network to be able to warn us of them, 4? 8? 120?
Radiation Network failed to warn us of this catastrophe. Why suggest it has the capacity to do so now when the truth has been proven otherwise, and why suggest that plutonium travels alone?
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If you had a machine designed to screen for skin cancer, and it missed the worst melanomas, etc, for 2.5 years, would it still be the right thing to do to suggest that the machine can screen for skin cancer?
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@NoNukes: "There's no there there". Pay Harlan of NETC his $20 and look at the private graphs for whatever dates in question. You should find a few wild excursions here and there, but taken together, their character and average looks much the same over time to me (or: so far –and fingers crossed on that).
I hope you don't think NETC is also a failed network –or in cahoots with the nuclear establishment.
RadNet's graphs show nothing special either –per:
> http://www.gregslab.com/tools/radwatch/
–and all of them can be readily seen via a paid NETC membership (or going through RadNet's obstacle course, but those are extremely compressed).
* I'm not saying there's no threat, or that bad stuff isn't happening in Japan –just that the folks doing monitoring have, on average, as yet, nothing special (gamma-wise) –on the ground –in these United States –to report.
Here's what I've got:
> http://webpages.charter.net/123goto/map.htm
Maybe WWJD can show us something special.
* And those excursions do bother me. I'd like to see a thousand stations on the map so we could see if beta stuff is drifting around and if there are major sources for where it's coming from.
Craig
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@Craig-123 – What I do detect from your statement… "Maybe WWJD can show us something special" is a sarcastic remark. What did I do wrong?
Side note, http://www.NETC.com will for FREE let anyone connect their geiger counter to NETC's network and share their readings with the world. If you want to view others charts, there is a fee.
I am sad to say Radiation Network will not.
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* Not at all. I saw further along the page that you were noting a gain in CPMs (per: "my station clearly shows a climb starting August 26, 2013 to new higher levels that I have not dropped below as of yet") –something I may have missed, and might have been about to post a "screen shot" at NoNuke's request –so I didn't try to get a screen capture of your graph myself.
* I'm making a special effort to be reasonable and even-handed in my responses.
Craig
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@Craig123 – I am sorry that I took your statement in the wrong way. Please post a screen shot of my data anytime. You or others might point something out to me that I missed myself. If you can believe it, I do not spend as much time analyzing my data as I would like.
As for todays current readings for my outside station:
A clear upswing in radiation levels are seen on my graph from a 24 hours low seen at 1:30 a.m. 9/27 CST and climbing steady as of this post 9/27 10:38 CST. My nearest EPA station in Madison Wisconsin (beta & gamma) show a rise too within the past 24 hours, per http://www.NETC.com
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The Madison Wisconsin EPA's beta station is showing more of a rise than the gamma station. I just wanted to point-out that fact and once again say…
It is very unlikely that any private indoor radiation monitoring stations are detecting changes in the beta levels happening outside.
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Craig-123,
As you know, there is data from around the world that shows massive amounts of radiation hit the United States during the initial days of this catastrophe, yet Radiation Network showed virtually nothing.
Radiation Network was proven incapable in the early days of the disaster. If it can't perceive the massive amounts of Cesium 137 then it obviously is a failure. Except as cover for the nuclear industry.
“High concentrations” of radiation hit US and Canada — Plume was rich in Cesium-137 and “close to the surface” from Vancouver southward — See also Hawaii, Florida (MAPS)
“Already on 15 March, a first isolated 133Xe cloud reached western North America, followed by the arrival of high concentrations of both 133Xe and 137Cs on 19 March.”
“The main part of the radioactive plume entered western North America on 17–18 March. On 18 March at 12:00UTC, the head of the plume had already arrived over the North Atlantic, but the main part was located over the eastern Pacific Ocean and western North America, where it could be detected at monitoring sites. This part of the plume was also rich in 137Cs, as it was still close to the surface south of 50 [Most of US/Canada border is 49°]. At the same time, the plume penetrated the subtropics and arrived at Hawaii on 19 March.”
http://enenews.com/high-concentrations-cesium-137-hit-canada
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Gross Beta Count Rate 500, Denver 9/22/13
http://www.enviroreporter.com/radnet-air-monitoring/colorado/
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Yikes! Annie- what do you know about cancer rates there?
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It's hard to get up-to-date statistics. In general, our air is cleaner than in other urban areas. I think MS rate is much higher in Colorado, and skin cancer is higher. I don't know about other cancers.
http://richmondrefinerycancer.wordpress.com/2012/08/11/compare-richmondmarin-cancer-rates-to-denver/
Richmond/Marin is just north of San Francisco in California.
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Thanks, anne. Effective image. #%^*+ Chevron.
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Denver's background radiation is now 9 times higher since Fukushima 3/11. It will take probably 5 or 10 years to 30 years to see the statistics for cancer, because the statistics for a particular year are not available for a few years.
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Also, they just stopped requiring clean up by the owner of a uranium mine owner of uranium polluted water drunk by Denver resident. It's going to also take years to see the health effects of this decision. Supposedly the city is going to add molasses.
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Breast cancer disparity in Denver surprised even the researchers
Posted March 23, 2012,
“…Denver’s white female community has the lowest breast cancer mortality rate of all the 25 major cities studied, at 17.7 per 100,000 women. Detroit’s mortality rate among white women is 37.3 per 100,000….”
http://blogs.denverpost.com/health/2012/03/23/breast-cancer-disparity-denver-surprised-researchers/133/
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ROCKY MOUTAIN ARSENAL MEDICAL MONITORING PROGRAM
UPDATE OF CANCER INCIDENCE IN NORTHEAST DENVER RESIDENTS LIVING IN THE VICINITY OF THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN ARSENAL
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1997-2005
http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheadername1=Content-Disposition&blobheadername2=Content-Type&blobheadervalue1=inline%3B+filename%3D%22Cancer+Incidence+Update.pdf%22&blobheadervalue2=application%2Fpdf&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1251811683592&ssbinary=true
Colorado Cancer Registry Data
http://www.chd.dphe.state.co.us/topics.aspx?q=Cancer_Incidence_Data
Colorectal Cancer Rates By State
February 28, 2011
http://denver.cbslocal.com/2011/02/28/colorectal-cancer-rates-by-state/
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Anne, so what is your gut telling you about these research studies..
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Thank you anne. Very interesting study. I hope you don't live in Area 3.
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If you own a geiger counter and only take 10 minute counts to get a background reading and feel safe about those readings, your fooling yourself. If I was not recording 24/7 my outside background, I would likely not see the changes as they happen.
With that said, my station clearly shows a climb starting August 26, 2013 to new higher levels that I have not dropped below as of yet. This is so sad! (Wisconsin / Illinois stateline)
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Thanks, WWJD. Could you post a screenshot of that if you ever have time? I think harlen said members could do that.
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@NoNukes – A graph of my outside unit? Here is a repost from a previous post I made above.
http://postimg.org/image/rnj3fso25/
Was there something special you were asking about?
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The graph shows the climb in August, which seems to be my new highs/low. Also notice how the readings climbed when put outside on the air purifier.
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WWJD,
Ironically, I saw your graph and admired it up above, I'm sorry for not keeping track. Thanks so much for your work, WWJD.
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I've got mine running 24/7 on radnet software and it is staying steady. It's by the window but it's not outside. So, it should be picking up beta and gamma increases. And after reading what you said about PU being an alpha emitter and that it would require a very sensitive GC to pick it up- it is clear that I am not picking up PU (or other outside alpha particles). What I have found, and it is significant, is that the dust off the bedroom fan came in 48 CPM. Higher than the steady 32 cpm by the window. Not good.
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Au. I used to have hepa air filter going 24 7 in sealed bedroom and could lower radiation to under .08 mcSv/hr when outside average .11 mc§/hr. And yeah what Craig said. Just because I get safe basic readings thats mostly gamma with a bit of beta maybe…..No alpha detection ability so it could be snowing plutonium and I wouldnt know. Alpha detection is problamatic with fragile mica shield and other aspects. Still in the best case a scintillator identifies isotopes. Then you can really see whats happening
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@Mark, "I used to have hepa air filter going 24 7 in sealed bedroom and could lower radiation to under .08 mcSv/hr when outside average .11 mc§/hr."
It's on after the fan test. The slovenly ways are mended.
One interesting thing is though, that a year ago I tested one of the used reverse osmosis water filters at change out time and it read out in the 80s cpm. I tested another used filter 2 weeks ago and it read out an average 33 cpm over an hour. Water was cleaner and the air was more dirty. Of course, further methodical systematic testing will need to be carried out and graphed.
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* That's an interesting observation about your water filters, which must have really fine, almost molecular sized pores. Like failed efforts by the National Geological Survey to filter radioactive components out of water, I failed flat with my far more humble filters/techniques. It didn't occur to me to look into reverse osmosis filters.
* Government monitoring in New Zealand runs water through what sounds like a water softener (ion exchange) and then checks what's been removed and concentrated –but with better stuff than a Geiger counter, of course.
* The standard test (I believe) is either liquid scintilation or the much more straight-forward gamma spectrometry.
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Yes, that was interesting with the water filters. I was bracing myself for a higher than 80s count. Maybe the season has something to do with it. This is not our rainy season.
PS love NZ! When we were there we read the south island gets 7 meters of rain a year!
It was beautiful to see all of that water as we were coming from years of drought in Oz.
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I meant to say that Craig-123 said, "* You need to become aware that plutonium is an alpha emitter, and that one has to hold an expensive, mica windowed Geiger counter in very close proximity to a sample of the stuff in order to get any alpha clicks."
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WWJD, Ive been doing 10 20 and 30 minute counts randomly in the Vancouver area for coming up to 2 years. At least I know what post Fuku background is. Sure 24 hr data monitoring is better but somethings better then nothing. If a fuel pool goes I'll know about it. The Soeks is durable certified and recharges to any usb port. Ideal for evacuation.
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@Mark – I did not mean to offend anyone doing that, I am sorry if I did. I was directing my comment at those that feel their scattered background readings give them the full picture and as a result make them feel safe. You clearly understand what your looking at and what might be missed taking readings that way. You are correct, your reading are better than nothing and very much appreciated when shared in this forum. Thank you.
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@Mark: Doing lengthy counts does get a little "old" –years along, so thanks a lot for staying on that task –and noting your results to us.
@WWJD: I can't believe anyone has any reason to be offended by your fine efforts, reportage and comments.
* I'm the one who got things a bit out of step here by raising my hackles a bit. There are 80 or so active, concerned members of Radiation Network who've invested a lot of time, trouble, and often half a grand into the public service of reporting their CPMs. These people (Black Cat, NETC and Safecast members as well) deserve to be shown some appreciation.
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The change is clearly seen by me: http://s9.postimg.org/jk3t2xglr/NETC_South_Beloit_Illinois_9_27_2013_1055am_CST.jpg
This is my outside radiation station graph, data from http://www.NETC.com
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Thank you for keeping such careful records and posting them here.
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I have another unit, a pancake unit inside running 24/7 on NETC. I also have an inside unit running 24/7 on Radiation Network which I became a member of before NETC. I use all of those units to confirm the rises seen outside but of course the inside units are not as easily seen since the inside units miss most/all of the beta radiation. I also have a Polimaster 1703 to verify an increase in the gamma. Nobody can tell me that the rises I am seeing are not real. They could argue what isotopes are being detected and maybe the detectors calibration so this is why I focus on simply proving a rise or fall in the radiation along with information of events (Fukushima or local NPP events) in the news.
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WWJD. Not at all was I offended. Its true, having 24 hr data gathering is better then random 15 minute counts. Just wanted to point out something is better then nothing. Advantages of Soeks detector is software interpretation of data, portability and durability. I can drive around and see if different areas have different backgrounds. Main bad point is lack of a data port. So absolutely if a radiation cloud blows over in the night I miss it. But not offended. Never offended by the truth.
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* THAT is excellent work, which not only clearly makes your point, but also shows the "understanding power" of graphs and data logging (manual or automatic).
* As you've pointed out, due to the dearth of other outside beta stations in your region, it's hard to determine if it's a local or more general phenomenon –but: via the membership NETC map, one can get at a good graph of the Madison EPA-RadNet beta counts (RadNet's own access system/obstacle course is nearly useless). NETC's 3 month graph indicates a hump in August, followed by a decline in September –so Jimmy-the-Greek would bet on your experience being more local than regional.
* No one should be fooled by the "it's just radon" flim-flam. An amazing amount of lead-210 near the Daiichi plants suggests that there've been large releases of radon (deep sinking corium cooking the soil? direct daughter products?). We should also be mapping legal/illegal nuke industry waste and uranium mine tailings piles plus the many abandoned mines here in the U.S.
WWJD's work has persuaded me that we need both (basically ground reading) gamma monitoring and (air/particulate reading) beta monitoring in our networks (the two types clearly distinguished from each other on our display maps). WWJD style continuous beta monitoring can be done with a simple, compact, muffin fan and filter arrangement, which I'd like to set up here in place of my (now and then) 10 cubic meter batch filtering and reading.
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Yeah what Craig said. With this air filter sampling I have read about that seems ideal to even search for alpha particulate maybe? At Bingo's Eagle mountain minimalists lab close to Vancouver Canada we have a report of high average count. Still over .10 highs of .16 mc§v/hr in yellow bar of §oeks 01M. Call it still .12 mcSv/hr avg.
Half hour count outside under umbrella and inside coffee place. Raining all day.
600 ft above sea level.
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Jebus
September 27, 2013 at 2:25 am · Reply
Special Weather Statement Issued by NWS Portland (Northwest Oregon and Southwest Washington)
THE JET STREAM GRADUALLY SAGS SOUTH SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY
MORNING AND BRINGS A REINFORCING PUNCH OF TROPICAL MOISTURE. THIS
DEEP PLUME OF MOISTURE IS BEING GENERATED FROM FORMER TYPHOON
PABUK THAT WAS LOCATED OFF THE EAST COAST OF JAPAN. THIS SECOND
LEADING EDGE OF RAIN WILL ARRIVE AROUND MIDDAY SATURDAY. MODERATE
TO HEAVY RAIN WILL THEN GRADUALLY SHIFT SOUTH OVER THE NEXT TWO
DAYS WITH HEAVY RAIN REACHING THE CENTRAL OREGON COAST BY EARLY
SUNDAY MORNING.
http://alerts.weather.gov/cap/wwacapget.php?x=WA124F18B4BC9C.SpecialWeatherStatement.124F18C2DCA0WA.PQRSPSPQR.b21182d3573a8d9ba59335575eeadc3a
Maybe I posted in the wrong forum…
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Jebus
September 27, 2013 at 2:49 am · Reply
http://www.weather.com/maps/geography/pacific/index_large.html
http://enenews.com/forum-topic-discussion-thread-nuclear-issues-jan-5-2013-present
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Alert Level FREDERIC, Wisconsin ~ Altitude 1,273 feet ~ Geiger Counter
Inspector EXP+
Elapsed Minutes 400 ~ Total Counts 28,084
Average CPM 70
Minimum CPM 44
Maximum CPM 102
Beginning time 09/28/13 09:36:56 AM
Ending time 09/28/13 04:16:03 PM EST
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There was also a very large spike at Raleigh. EPA RadNet beta readings for Raleigh, NC 243CPM on 9/25 at 12:57!!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p480x480/11504_10201310100408885_419715518_n.jpg
Reports from,
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Radwatch-Dot-Info/167325596740431
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Please feel free to make use of this Green Planet FM radio interview, that provides a clear honest appraisal of the present seriousness of the Fukushima Nuclear disaster. Suggestions, tools, and other resources are mentioned in the Interview, that can be used to help you and your family stay safe and well.
http://www.greenplanetfm.com/members/greenradio/blog/VIEW/00000001/00000261/Peter-Daley-Australian-Whistleblower-on-the-Fukushima-Radiation-Crises–Survival.html
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Scroll down the page a bit to find the the interview.
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Vital1 do you see rising detections of radiation occurring?
I would like to confirm or disconfirm reports of big increases in rad levels in areas impacted by the jet stream.
Thank you
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Kassandra, In August and September there has been evidence of criticalities at Fukushima. This has translated into a number of alert levels detections in North America on the netc.com, and other monitoring networks. There had been lots of large steam events witnessed on the Fukushima live webcams during this time.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Rad-2013-08-15-netc-ALERTS-001.jpg
Thanks to enenews webcam forum commenter ‘pure water’ for the screen shots of the possible fire at reactor 3. One other suggestion is it is not a fire, they were burning off Tritium near the reactor 3 building.
http://s1298.photobucket.com/user/porewater4/media/r_zpsc356ad06.png.html
Radioactive Iodine I-131 was also detected in sludge in nearby cities. There were also increased levels of Tritium, Cesium and Strontium, detected in recent tests of water from bore holes at the Fukushima nuclear plant. This all points to the possibility that underground criticalities are occurring, or have occurred, recently at the Fukushima Nuclear Disaster site.
Radiation plume after Japanese earthquake. Iodine-131 cloud reached France."
http://optimalprediction.com/wp/radia
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Yes I'm aware of all these events, including iodine 131 detections in France ( thanks to Optimal Prediction for catching that)
I listened to a recent interview in which someone in San Diego CA reported the highest rads he's ever detected. I'm located downwind.
I'm trying to ascertain the scale of recent releases
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"I'm trying to ascertain the scale of recent releases"
All the evidence is that there was a significant event in the last month.
The only way to quantify this at present is by the numerous independent detection reports. MSN is still silent on this issue.
Here is a list of International monitoring stations. This may help you make an informed decision if another major event happens.
http://sccc.org.au/international-radiation-monitoring-stations
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There have also been higher day average background levels here in Australia recently. This seems to follow a winter summer cycle at present.
http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Caloundra-local-average-background-radiation-levels-September-2013.jpg
9th September 2013 – Detection of radioactive Iodine I-129 in roof gutter moss Australia.
http://sccc.org.au/detection-of-radioactive-iodine-i-129-in-roof-gutter-moss-australia
All these radiation detections can be patchy, so it depends on what is in the atmosphere when the rain falls, or the wind blows.
Long term data for my location in the Southern Hemisphere, plus lots more information and test reports, can be found here.
http://sccc.org.au/archives/2630
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Thank you very much
I think we were doused with fallout about 2 weeks ago.
No way to prove my hunch but everyone around me developed headaches, stomach pain, sore throats, and dizziness that lasted about 3 days or so after the ferocious precipitation we had,
None of these symptoms were contagious.
I'm pretty sure we were hit, but I suppose it could all be simply coincidental
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"I think we were doused with fallout about 2 weeks ago."
Yes, all the testing suggest we got some of it in the Southern Hemisphere also.
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Kassandra, where is your location?
Vital 1 I sure do appreciate the work you do with scintillation and also international monitoring. My personal readings haven't changed much wherever the jet stream is. The best I can do is report honestly. Does not mean I don't believe in the jetstream influence or I am disagreeing with anybody elses theories results or opinions. My location is different from others and obviously in your case some people have better equipment then mine. The fact you can identify isotopes allows radon or other radiation to be differenciated. Fascinating work. My mountain lab needs an upgrade. Peace
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I consider this a team effort. Everyone who contributes information to this forum increase our collective knowledge of the situation, and our ability to help, and inform others.
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I have personally gained a lot of insights, and knowledge from contributors here.
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Go team Enenews… Go….
N
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Vital1, well said
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"None of these symptoms were contagious."
– Kassandra
I think that's a valuable tip.
It hit here too.
Location central California foothills.
And it's happened a couple of times now too.
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My readings over two years hasnt changed much through various places and times in the Vancouver Canada area .11 mc§v/hr avg background. Jetstream doesnt change anything for me. Minimalist Soeks detector. Statistical graphs prove my casual observations within .01 mcSv/hr plus or minus.. Low radon area and far away from anynclear industry. Moritorium on uranium mining in bc. All this contributes to stable readings. Use data recorder if you experience high radon or live close to npp.
Hour long count today. Basic .11 mcsSv/hr. Peace.
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Far away from any nuclear industry.
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Radiation update – South Beloit, Illinois (Wisconsin / Illinois stateline. Looking at the previous 7-days worth of data for my outside monitoring station, 9/26/2013 around 7 a.m. CST was my high for the week. How does this compare with my previous data? It is near my stations record high, that being on 9/13/2013 when compared to the past 5 months 1-day average per my http://www.NETC.com charts.
Current radiation level, it is a low activity day but levels still higher than prior to August levels. I focus on increase and decrease levels of radiation when compared to my stations previous data and therefore I do not share my (CPM) counts per minute.
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I recently switched my basement radiation monitoring stations GMC-200 with a different GMC-200 in an effort to verify the steady 3-month radiation rise. I plan on doing the same with my outside radiation unit. I did notice that the nearest private NETC monitoring station to me located in MI also shows a steady climb starting in August just like my station. Unlike my outside unit, the MI station is located inside but near a window and may pick-up limited beta but obviously records gamma.
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Radcon 5 Alert
486
Station ID 5:637 South Valley, NM, US
CPM: current 486 Low 187 High 541
Average 336, Deviation 45.6
(CPM of Gamma in energy range 600-800keV)
http://netc.com/
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ATTENTION: Recent radiation storm/readings & CME information: http://s24.postimg.org/eee05a8md/NETC_South_Beloit_Illinois_9_30_2013_1008am_CST.jpg
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Sorry, let me use a different pic host and I will report in just a few.
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Here is the report link: http://i44.tinypic.com/t52ijo.jpg
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Here is the direct link to CME report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwmubWsBqzU&list=UUTiL1q9YbrVam5nP2xzFTWQ
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Looks like the radiation plume is traveling westward:
List of RADCON-4 sites:
5:637 near South Valley, NM, US 503 2013-09-30 17:45:00 G
4:816 near Saint George, UT, US 402 2013-09-29 13:53:00 I
5:917 near Riverside, CA, US 225 2013-09-30 17:24:00 G
4:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 90 2013-09-30 17:33:00 U
5:936 near Anaheim, CA, US 285 2013-09-30 17:33:00 U
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The radiation level, 503, is higher for South Valley, NM than when it was at radcon 5 (486) posted above.
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Gross Beta Count Rate is again 500 in Denver, Sept. 30.
http://www.enviroreporter.com/radnet-air-monitoring/colorado
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Why does http://www.netc.com/
show Denver at a normal Radcon 1?
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My netc site shows increase, am on East Coast USA. Its usually around 9-16 CPM. Lots of 27 and such today, so waiting for the INCOMING. On RADCONs, they are relative, and if a station is not up and online 24/7 the radcon level may not be reliable, or that is what I am trying to figure out with my new station. Anne, click on the icon and then pull down the data info on the site in question. It will show the full data set available. Background is diff for sites, and if gamma, its much different than beta. No expert here..just doing a bit of testing with a GM300.
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@jec – Is your station ID 1:54F82741.5
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I recently verified my readings by replacing my previous geiger counter with a different one, as seen in this graph:
http://s17.postimg.org/fcmz3xpkf/NETC_South_Beloit_Illinois_Basement_10_1_2013_11.jpg
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Sorry for the typo seen on the graph. What I tried to say was that a rise is clearly seen since July but right now I just don't know what the cause of it is from.
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Denver doesn't even have an icon or any readings right now on netc.com
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Today I hit my record high on my outside geiger counter radiation monitoring station:
http://s22.postimg.org/quks5k9r5/NETC_South_Beloit_Illinois_10_2_2013_1048am_CST.jpg
Even as I type this, I hear my outside NETC Raspberry Pi / GMC-200 (on an air purifier) speaking to me each current CPM above the 32 CPM warning level I have preset. I try not to speak about CPM levels on this forum, because too many get confused what is a "SAFE" level. For my stations current setup, the average is 27cpm and it alerts me by speaking the current CPM every time a CPM goes 32 or over. When I we start hearing these alerts, we come inside the house.
I know we recently had a CME and the impact from it was said to be today near afternoon time, but I expected any radiation from it to be mostly gamma. What I am detecting seems to be mostly beta or I would have seen my pancake unit (1st floor) in my house going up which I have not. The rise does seem to show on my basement unit also around the same times. I remember reading somewhere that CME's cause EQ's and that before EQ's (sometimes days in advance) excess amounts of radon gas come out of the ground. Maybe this is the cause, I am not sure.
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Hi WWJD.
* Separately monitoring (essentially for gamma, per your inside GC) is a good idea, such that you can more confidently report what's being caught outside as being beta.
Again: it would be great to see the monitoring community using a standard, compact, muffin fan and (replaceable) filter package for doing the work you've been reporting on –but as a _second_ monitor (gamma being the first) –and separately reported. Beta/air stations should rate a different icon on monitoring network maps.
* The square root of 27cpm is about 5, so you've set your alarm at one standard deviation high. I suggest that's a bit too alarming –and that 37 would be less stressful.
* As Japan's radioactive effluvia reaches us here on the coast (and elsewhere), we need to become aware of another beta emitter: strontium-90 –which turns into yttrium-90, also a beta emitter. The half-life of Sr-90 is years long, so it would be a real stand-out from the typical 38 minute beta decay of radon daughters.
Whereas the decay-away of radon/daughters "cleans" your air filter (but there's an accumulation of long-lived lead-210), Sr-90 is going to hang on –which is why an air filter station should regularly replace the filter.
* I broke my right leg's knee and ankle Saturday in a fall. I went down just like the old man that I am. Lots of sore muscles, fatigue and even a low fever now –so I'll probably miss responding to items in this forum for a while.
Craig
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Ouch. Take care!
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@Craig-123 I should have been more clear. Although NETC lists my overall (spikes included) station average at 27cpm, without the spikes I believe my NORM is around 19-22cpm. With the alert level set at 32cpm, there are days (10am – 10pm) it is rare for me to hear it reach that level. For our kids, I want to be safe not sorry and I believe 32cpm for my station does that.
I'm sorry to hear about your fall. Praying for a fast & full recovery.
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*Rice Chex Cereal Tests above background.
See the background vs Chex chart comparison @4:48.
It seems very clear to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub-wMqsy1xI
Could somebody else go buy a box of this and test it for comparison?
It would be interesting to test, say 12 boxes, from across the country.
Doing what the EPA/FDA are supposed to do.
*Rice Chex Cereal, General Mills Corp.
"…moms love Rice Chex and Corn Chex cereals because they are low in sugar. Low in fat and cholesterol free too." – GM ad
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Did anyone else notice that now, most fruits and vegetables are labeled "grown in the US" and no mention of what part of the US anymore?
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Tetsuo yes I've noted that here before and I've wondered the same thing as mark, if it's related to increased consumer awareness or simply streamlining of labeling system.
What is interesting is in those rare occasions when i still do find state specific stickers on navel oranges and grapefruit, its always been of florida, I haven't seen a california sticker on a navel orange in a long while. But this is just my personal experience, not a very scientific.
It will be interesting to observe how the 'locally grown' section in Whole Foods in California changes its marketing.
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Tetsuo_Shima, up here in Canada? Yes. Not sure if its to do with Fukushima or the general disturbing trend of streamlining food labels in general which is government pandering to the food industry.
Today, I did a one hour count in which background radiation was aprox. 10% over normal which realistically translates to .12 or .13mcSv/hr which is within normal background levels generally. However not normal readings for me. Readings taken downtown Vancouver Canada, not my normal location. Using Soeks 01M.
If battery holds up I will do another test at my usual Eagle Mt. location later tonight.
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Hood swipe= 230 CPM. Recheck same swipe 20 minutes later and got 140 CPM. Steady drizzle @ 6PM.
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Here is a screen shot of just one of many Japan radiation monitoring stations. I labeled all the spikes with the dates. Maybe some can match these spikes with their personal rain swipe samples. Of course add 3-days or so for travel time to the U.S.
http://s10.postimg.org/nnfwhutrt/NETC_Japan_Station_19000_1904_10_06_2013_801am_C.jpg
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