A lot to cover, indeed.
Apple
2013-10-22T12:00:00-05:00
Apple is gearing up to have its second media event in as many months, and we expect it to be a big one. If you're looking for a new tablet, hoping for more news about the Mac Pro, waiting for Intel's latest CPUs to hit the Retina MacBook Pros, or just want to upgrade the Mac you already have to a brand-new operating system, tune in tomorrow.
We'll be on the ground at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts in San Francisco to cover all of the news as it happens and to put our grubby hands all over any new stuff that Apple sees fit to announce. The October 22 event starts at 10:00am PT (see it in your timezone), and as always you can follow our liveblog by clicking the link above.
45 Reader Comments
On the release date of the Surface Pro 2, no less.
I doubt it. I really think Apple has moved to an every-other-year hardware refresh cycle for them (iPod touch 4/square iPod nano in 2010, iPod touch 5/new iPod nano in 2012, etc).
there hasn't even been a rumor of a rumor on these.
Nope, you poor saps are stuck with me.
And I'm going to be irked if I wind up getting the tower as I could have purchased it a year ago.
Same here, except for the saving up part, but my current pro seems to be in death throes at the moment; okay so it's probably just the power supply, but it's not a desperately cheap component to replace for what is still a five year old computer with a heap of other minor physical problems (DVD drive won't open, graphics card fan is noisy as hell, some of the ports stopped working…) so it's probably time for an upgrade.
I'm generally sold on the idea of the new Pro; okay so it'll require me to shift my current drives over to a decent USB drive enclosure, but a Fusion Drive with the internal flash storage ought to be pretty damn fast anyway. Plus I'm assuming the two GPUs are standard on all models, and since I don't particularly need tons of VRAM (though I'd never say no of course) I hopefully don't need to over-spend. I'm also trying to work out what kind of Bitcoin generation the new pro will be able to manage with those two GPUs when I don't need them for something else, I'm thinking maybe I can generate a bit of a subsidy…
I also fully expect Mavericks to be properly announced; as I don't see Apple releasing the new Mac Pro without it.
That doesn't make sense. The number of hours remaining until 10 a.m. PDT is the same as the number of hours remaining until 6:00 p.m. BST.
I'm most interested in a higher resolution mac book air, and a retina ipad mini. I can't see the ipad mini going another 12 months without a higher resolution display, the competing mini tablets are starting to get very cheap with very good displays.
That doesn't make sense. The number of hours remaining until 10 a.m. PDT is the same as the number of hours remaining until 6:00 p.m. BST.
No it doesn't make sense - I meant that it was taking my UK time and treating it as if that was the time in New York, but it all seems to be working now.
I hope that the initial specs Apple released were for a highend BTO model or else we're in for wallet shock. The FirePro W9000 video cards retail for $3400 a piece in the PC space and the new Mac Pro was announced with two. The other pricing thing is that the 12 core Xeon's E5-1660v2 are going for ~$1100 a piece. Going by retail prices (which are higher than OEM pricing) we're looking at least $8000. 6,8 and 10 core models are also possible so that'll be a bit of savings but costs are going to be dwarfed by the video cards. Case, PSU, chipset, Thunderbolt controllers all add up too.
The other downside is that the W9000's should be replaced by faster models within 3 months time. AMD is about to launch a new highend CPU within a week on the consumer side and the workstation variant typically launches several months later.
I would love a $2499 starting price. Even with poor expansion, dual W9000 cards is a steal at that price.
I hope that the initial specs Apple released were for a highend BTO model or else we're in for wallet shock. The FirePro W9000 video cards retail for $3400 a piece in the PC space and the new Mac Pro was announced with two. The other pricing thing is that the 12 core Xeon's E5-1660v2 are going for ~$1100 a piece. Going by retail prices (which are higher than OEM pricing) we're looking at least $8000.
at $8k i'll have to fold.
I guess that means no streaming on Windows. Fine, I'll bring the MBP13 into my office.
I'm with you on that.
TVs are in a very similar situation as phones were pre-iPhone or MP3 players were pre-iPod. They suck to interact with and they're confusingly named* and released. They're underpowered. The flow of content is entangled with a ton of other business deals (content providers, cable companies, etc).
That said, an full-size TV (or really, any surprises) won't get announced here: it seems that post-Jobs, Apple's leak prevention unit been replaced with an address book of media contacts, so we would've heard about it by now: bulk orders of large display panels, image processing chips, deals with content providers, and product renderings all would've been in the rumour mill by now.
*Looking at Best Buy's website, the first 5 TV model names I see are:
47LN5400
UN55FH6030FXZA
KDL50R450A
UN50EH6000FXZA
UN46F6300AFXZA
It'd be so nice if you could easily tell "ok, this is the 2013 Sony model", rather than not easily knowing which ones have which tech, which are better/worse.
by Andrew 13:04
biggest iphone launch ever
by Andrew 13:04
(applause)
by Andrew 13:04
So who exactly is applauding at these events? I understand applause at developer conference or public events, but isn't this almost exclusively a press event? Is it some light polite applause or are people actually exited?
by Andrew 10:05
Don't quit your day job to become a comedian Andrew.
But with that unwanted sarcasm instead of reporting, which is your day job, I decided to follow the Apple event on another website.
Edit: Holy shit, free and doesn't come with ad-ware. Their servers will break on day 1.
Last edited by tayhimself on Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:24 am
by Andrew 10:05
Don't quit your day job to become a comedian Andrew.
But with that unwanted sarcasm instead of reporting, which is your day job, I decided to follow the Apple event on another website.
found it funny and will now pay attention to the are stream.
I get it, but the MacBook Pro is the only thing keeping me tied to Apple now. I know I'm in a small boat, but being able to toss in my own SSD and another HDD (via a cheap $15 drive caddy to sit in the optical drive bay) is huge for me.
I hope it's just a typical Apple... delay, and that they still keep them around, because they are currently the only Macs you can upgrade yourself (even being a tech, the old iMacs were infinitely easier than the current ones with a SKU for each peice of VHB tape holding the screen on).
Last edited by madogu on Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:49 am
Well it looks like I'm not too far off. $3000 base price isn't too bad though I'll have to read up on what is in the base specs. What stands out initially is the 12 GB of RAM. There is a chance that this runs in a three channel mode or even uses an EN processor that only supports three channels max.
The FirePro cards have a new naming scheme so I'll have to see what chips are used for what model and go from there.
I still suspect that the grand daddy 12 core, dual D700 model is going to be well over $8000.
The guess on the liveblog is that they're being discontinued. If they were being left as-is there would be a price drop.
Typically they'll give it to you if your purchase was in the last 30 days.
Yes, I think you are. It's a press event designed to present the company in the best light; they're *supposed* to toot their own horn at this kind of thing.
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