For those of you looking for a punk band refusing to play by the rules, look no further than Ypsilanti’s drum and fuzz bass duo, Minus9. The band’s 2013 release, Drown, sounds like the bastard child of Napalm Death and Flipper, and evokes the noisy, exploratory spirit of such punk rock mavericks as Unsane, Big Black, and Nomeansno while still being able to rock out the same way Extreme Noise Terror did back in the day.
How did Minus9 first form?
Andy: George W. Bush getting reelected drove me to want to play super hard and fast music. My band, that I played guitar in, was winding down about the same time my wife bought me a bass. I told a friend I was looking for a drummer to play grindcore. He said, “isn’t there a drummer a few houses down the street from you?”– that happened to be Steve. I had no clue. Once you take out the guitar, guttural vocal, and add a drummer who is coming from a jazz and metal back ground, it’s no longer going to sound like grindcore. We played for about a year for fun with no real plans to play out but it was sounding good and that was that.
Steve: The band I had been in for years was on what was threatening to be a permanent hiatus, and I was doing a lot of playing and recording with pretty much anyone who would have me at that time. Andy approached me to do a “grindcore thing”. I liked the idea because I had no idea what grindcore was, so it was new to me. He had to make me a mix CD just so I would have some idea.
How would you describe the music of Minus9?
Steve: Metal, Right? I’m sure it’s metal.
Andy: I’d say metal too. Fast, hard, and compressed.
Who are some of the not so aggressive influences of Minus9?
Andy: That’s an interesting question. We are more into speed than aggression. Melt-Banana is fast but not aggressive, and there’s a lot of salsa music faster than most hardcore and that’s also not aggressive. I don’t listen to bands like the Cro-Mags or ’90s hardcore mainly because it is so testosterone aggressive. For influences, we lift from everywhere. This one is going to be a fox trot. Let’s rework a Link Wray song. This one should sound like Ministry playing latin music. This one is a techno song with Pussy Galore style hard changes. Think Megadeth playing Rites of Spring. Gene Krupa drums for Pig Destroyer. We’re really all over the map.
Steve: Yeah, we pull from all over. I’m not sure anyone can tell after we put it through the Minus9 treatment though.
What inspired you guys to stick to just a drummer and bassist?
Andy: Bass is a great instrument that so many bands under utilize. Even when I played guitar I always started with a bass line. A bass can sound like a guitar but a guitar can never sound like a bass, so let’s go with the bass.
Steve: Would you ask The Strokes why they don’t have a didgeridoo player?
What are some of the advantages of only having a bassist and drummer? What are some of the set backs?
Steve: It’s not about advantage vs. disadvantage. We sound how we sound based on our instrumentation, and we write, and arrange for that instrumentation. The challenge is to make it sound full and interesting, but that’s a challenge with every band. Mostly it’s about moving as a unit while staying out of each other’s way. It’s like moving a couch down stairs. Would you rather have three or four weak guys or two strong guys?
Andy: Being just drum and bass is very restricting, and playing within restrictions pushes us to be more creative. Same goes for travel. We travel in a pretty small car so if it doesn’t fit, it doesn’t go. The goal is to do the most possible with what we have. If it can’t be played with just drum and bass, then it’s not a Minus9 song.
What’s the songwriting process like for Minus9?
Andy: First comes the concept. Usually I come up with ideas for song structures and what the feel is. I’ll tell Steve things like this one needs to sound frantic and panicky, Or this should come in like a punch in the face then turn murky and sludgy for the chorus. These are usually decided by what the song is about. Most songs are written in my head while walking my dogs. They’re usually written before I touch an instrument.
Steve: When Andy brings a song in it’s 99.999% complete, my job is to get the drum part out of his head in a way that makes sense and add a little bit of drummer stuff to make it a full part. At the same time, I will often suggest small lyrical alterations, just a word or two to help the flow, or to make it funnier.
Andy: Sometimes Steve will comment on one line of lyrics and that will cause the song to go a completely new direction. Once Steve works out the drum part I usually have to rework the bass part. Nothing is off the table from change either. There are plenty of songs from five years ago that get modified musically and lyrically.
Who are some of Minus9′s favorite bands to play with?
Steve: Girth, For sure. Brain Tumors, Touch, S.N.A.F.U., BerT, Choose Your Poison.
Andy: So many bands came and went so fast since we’ve started, it’s kind of hard to keep up. There was a great band from Brighton, MI called Maxx Rebo a few years back. Medic Medic from Pittsburg. Plague Years from Lansing. I’m pretty lucky to get a CD from most of these bands before they disappeared. As for current bands, I’d add Marrow and Nurse Ratchet to Steve’s list.
What are some of the past bands you’ve played in? What did they sound like?
Andy: My last band was a spazzy punk power trio called MHz. Minus9 was gonna be the MHz side project since our bass player went to grad school in New York. Once I met Steve, he ended up in MHz too. It’s been lots of bands before that dating way back. We both have been at it for a long time.
Steve: Well MHz obviously. Before that was a shoegaze band. I’ve been in gigging bands since I was 14 though, so I’ve played a lot of styles with a lot of great people. I don’t like to repeat myself. If a band dissolves I usually look for something completely different.
How did you guys hook up with Jim Diamond? How did you like recording with him?
Andy: I’ve been recording with Jim Diamond since he set up shop in Detroit. My wife and I had a record label in the mid-nineties and Jim was our go to guy. He has a great room. We just set up and play everything live. Drums, vocals, and bass all at the same time. Both our records were recorded in one day. I sometimes will redo a vocal when we mix down but that’s about it. Jim is real good at listening to you and capturing it without putting any spin on it.
On your band bio it says you guys write songs about hate, war, death, corruption, ignorance, torture, kidnapping, genocide, religion, and death. Which one of those is you favorite and why?
Steve: Ignorance is the linchpin, isn’t it? It’s at the root of all the others.
Andy: That bio was originally written for our myspace page that went up on 6/6/06. Back then I’d say death, but today I’d agree with Steve and say ignorance. Our first record was mostly about the Iraq war and a few about religion. Lots of death there. We thought most of those songs would all be obsolete after the 2008 election but things seemed to only escalate. With Drown we tried to blur the lines between us against them focusing more on ignorance. For our latest songs we’ve moved away from observation to point of view. Step into a character and you now can give off extreme points of view. The art on our first release was the world going to Hell. The second is the human race drowning in the tar pits. They both graphically sum up what the records are about. Our dislike of humanity is an endless well to draw from.
Is there anything you’d like to plug?
Steve: If you like music, support music. We do this because we like doing it, but gas in the tank is nice too.
Andy: Totally. Gear cost money, gas cost money, and recording cost money. If you’re paying twice as much for beer then for the music, you’re doing it wrong. Bands, watch other bands because there is always something to learn even if it’s what not to do. Last of all, spay and neuter your animals and please use birth control. There are more than enough people already.