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UKRAINE: NATO sources confirm that the Russians shot down the Su-25!!!p4742

 
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Increased militia activity in the #Kramatorsk, #Slavyansk area, several #Ukraine army soldiers have been ambushed by militia and detained

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Polish Canons and Soldiers in Ukraine?
By Olivier Fehr July 17, 2014 russia, ukraine

On July 16, 12 152mm howitzers of type DANA, as well as staff cars and trucks from the Polish army are said to have been unloaded in the port of Odessa.
They are rumoured to be part of a Polish artillery division from the 1st Mazurian Artillery Brigade, fully manned by Poles.

Should this rumour turn out to be correct, it would mark the de-facto entry of Poland (a NATO member) into the internal conflict in Ukraine, thereby internationalizeing it and moving the conflict into a new quality.

[link to en.eurasianunion.ch]
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Poland?

Poland? nah. NATO is too tired to fight with Russia.

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let me get this straight:
does all of this mean that The Russian Army has encircled 8750 junta forces ?
 Quoting: Pookee

No, Army of the Russian Federation is nearby but not (yet) involved.
They are blocked to the North by the Armed Forces of the SNR (as the former Novorossiya now calls itself, Soyuz Norodny Republic) and to the South by the Border Guards service of the Russian Federation.

If they cross into Russia with weapons they will be killed, if they cross into Russia without weapons they will be arrested and sent to prison, initially in Gukovo.
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Deborah Cole ‏@doberah · 22m
US has failed to grasp level of anger in Germany over spying and needs to recalculate, vets say @AFP [link to u.afp.com] via @YahooNews

If the Germans are so upset, they need to quite crying and take action. How bout this Germans. tell ALL American military forces to leave all German lands in 3 months time? Id say that would sufficiently demonstrate the level of anger. Plus, on the bright side, it would obliterate NATO and allow you (Germany) to join the Russian Federation like you know you want to. Putin, The New Protector for the Fatherland.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60317322
There is no way in Hades that the Russian Federation would admit Germany as a Federal Subject.
They need not apply, they would not be accepted, they hold too much gold bullion in an unsafe location.
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Russia reopens Cuba spy base for dummies - **MORE** than just an illuminati joke: to have NATO officially enter Ukraine

Genocide in Novorossyia:
Bombing of civilians started May 2, 2014. Two months later, a dozen miles from the russian border:
July 2: entire towns near Lugansk wiped off the map by airstrikes, white phosphorous bombs, barrages of GRAD missiles and shelling by thousands of tanks.
July 9: Lugansk, first half a million city to be indiscriminately bombed in Europe since World War II.

NATO massive military deployment along Russias border:
Parallel to the genocide in Novorossyia, NATO massively deploys, from the former soviet republics in the Baltic to former allies like Romania and Georgia.
Last but not the least: NATO deployment in states with a large majority of Slavic ethnic groups, from Poland to Bulgaria.
This is the penultimate stage before the remake of fake Yanukovich full detonation as suicide bomber in the Ukraine, fleeing to Russia.
In other words: before the act "Putin flees to China", "opnely pro-EU government in Russia".

How do the illuminati justify their agent "Putin" Iimpersonator of the murdered} Putin plays innocent bystander, allowing:
- NATO massive and unprecedented deployment along Russias borders
- the genocide of russians while they are expelled from their ancestral lands

Illuminati mass media:
Whats going on in Novorossiya, same as in any other front of World War III, from Syria to Afghanistan, is totally censored.
What is served is the opposite of reality.
No wonder that illuminati mass media just needs to tell that Russia is covertly and now also openly engaged, from supplying weapons and soldiers to downing airorce jets.
To what lengths this goes: Jul 15, Snizhne: bombing of a six floor apartment building by the Kiev nazis was reported as "possibly by a russian jet".

Illuminati Disinformation for the audience aware of the genocide in Novorossyia:
NSA psy-ops playing the role of pro-Novorossyia justify it:
"ALL ATROCITIES ARE COMMITED BY JUNTA FROM DIRECT ORDERS OF THEIR NWO SLAVEMASTERS WITH SOLE PURPOSE TO PROVOKE RUSSIAN INTERVENTION, ONCE RUSSIA INTERVENES ALL DEBTS WITH ALL SINS WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY TRANSFERED ON RUSSIA."

Goal: divert from the TRUTH:
"ALL ATROCITIES ARE COMMITED BY JUNTA FROM DIRECT ORDERS OF THEIR NWO SLAVEMASTERS WITH SOLE PURPOSE of implementing the GENOCIDE of freedom loving people and in the process the "ethnic" cleaning of russian speakers.
"Putin"s treasonous actions range from calling self-defense militia resisting the genocide to disarm and refusal to recognize the right to self-determination of Novorossiya to giving intel to the nazis for airstrikes against Novorossiya bases.

Russia spy base in Cuba reopned - theater for dummies
Iluminati serve to the audience a "Cuba-Russia: Just like old times!" parallel script to the series staged in 1962 using agent Khruschev while Fidel is supposedly still on stage.
First act: Russia forgiving Cubas $32 billion debt after Putins visit last week.
Days later, the same day as Putin celebrates with the 4 other BRICS puppets: Russia agrees to reopen Cuba spy base.
The Cuba theateris more than just mocking the human cattle robotically repeating that "black is white" or in other words that "Putin is anti-NATO",
While psy-ops playing playing the role of pro-Novorossyia justify Putins treasonous actions as "to prevent NATO from entering Ukraine", Putins role is the exact opposite:
the Cuba theater is staged to justify the official entry of foreign NATO mercenaries in the Ukraine war.

Notes
12 Jul 2014 - Two impersonators of dead heads of state acting meet in Havana.
"Just like old times! Putin embraces Fidel Castro during 87-year-old Cuban leaders first public appearance in months as old Cold War allies cozy up again"
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

July 16, 2014
Russia agrees to reopen Cuba spy base
[link to news.yahoo.com]

Jul 15 Aftermath of Snizhne bombing, with child (alive) pulled from rubble:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

BASICS
Murdered Putins impersonator openly telling hes a traitor: examples.
[link to www.google.com (secure)]

1962 Cuba missile crisis was staged using agent Khruschev.
Part of the plan to destroy JFK, same as the Bay of Pigs invasion episode, a trap set by the illuminati using agent Fidel Castro.
For traps used by the illuminati to murder JFK, RFK and JFK Jr, start here:
[link to www.google.com (secure)]

The role of illuminati agent Khruschev in the break-up of Russia
[link to www.google.com (secure)]

The role of illuminati agent Fidel Castro in the murder of Che Guevara
[link to www.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: THE SIMPLE TRUTH 60318182

Just a detail:
The real Putin was murdered but Fidel Castro died of a natural death 2011.
Castro is kept alive with an impersonator, played by Hollywood Batman Liam Neeson, to serve the illuminati agenda.
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MICEX now in absolute free-fall down 2.9%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60317322

Which is it?
Free-fall or down 2.9%
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let me get this straight:
does all of this mean that The Russian Army has encircled 8750 junta forces ?
 Quoting: Pookee

No, Army of the Russian Federation is nearby but not (yet) involved.
They are blocked to the North by the Armed Forces of the SNR (as the former Novorossiya now calls itself, Soyuz Norodny Republic) and to the South by the Border Guards service of the Russian Federation.

If they cross into Russia with weapons they will be killed, if they cross into Russia without weapons they will be arrested and sent to prison, initially in Gukovo.
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


This "border closing" operation is just one of many brilliant fails made in Banderistan. And wait for more!

chuckle
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MICEX now in absolute free-fall down 2.9%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60317322

Which is it?
Free-fall or down 2.9%
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


closed at down 2.9%
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According to user "Henschel" - previously captured rebels tanks were checked by serial number and proved to be from Russia. Anyone has more info about this issue?



Tank with blue#7 - captured by Ukrainian army in battle of Slavyanks, exposed at military exhibition at Kyiv few days before, by serial # checked when it was proiduced and shipped - tank from Russian military warehouse
 Quoting:

[link to s425.photobucket.com]

Repeating again for smart russian folks: all Ukrainian tanks repainted and has white line on board, amount and scheme of camouflage released by army command post. Ukrainian army has a full information about T-64 from russian army reserviour which are planned to use. Once more - on captured tanks had been checked a serial # of machines, all information already shared with USA/ EU and UN, the most funniest on that situation, just to avoid a noise from Russia that such kind of document not fake (not origin from Ukraine) - they are using old soviet documentation.
That impressive how russian military are stupid.
Only few tanks with camouflage which can be really available and has ukrainian # - from Crimea, but thats not a news for Ukraine
 Quoting:

[link to www.militaryphotos.net]
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Hundreds of hostages held by separatists in eastern Ukraine

How many people are currently being held hostage by separatists, according to your estimates?

Nikolay Yakubovych: In Luhansk its in the order of 150, and in Donetsk and Horlivka there is also more than 100, probably close to 120. There are at least 20 people in Horlivka, there are civic activists that the militants have started grabbing. The same is happening in Donetsk. Horlivka is like a separate state, they have their own management there, and the same is in Donetsk.
They are mostly civil society representatives who supported the state. Theyre civic activists. Lately, we have also seen an increase in the number of businessmen captured, the well-off people.

How many separatists and mercenaries are held by the other side, by the Ukrainian government?

NY: At the moment, there are more than 200 people arrested who are under criminal investigation.

Where are they held, in Kyiv or in Donbas?

NY: Most of them are in Kyiv. Some of them are in pre-trial detention in Dnipropetrovsk and Kharkiv region.

What is so precious about Olga Kulygina whom the separatists want to exchange for 15 people?

NY: She is a staff agent of FSB (Russian security service).

I was told today that she is one of the main ideologists of Russias plan to take over south and east of Ukraine. That she was captured with flash cards and other pieces of evidence.

NY: Yes, and she might have some sort of information hidden and (the government) is not interested to have this information go back to (militants).
[link to www.kyivpost.com]
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According to user "Henschel" - previously captured rebels tanks were checked by serial number and proved to be from Russia. Anyone has more info about this issue?



Tank with blue#7 - captured by Ukrainian army in battle of Slavyanks, exposed at military exhibition at Kyiv few days before, by serial # checked when it was proiduced and shipped - tank from Russian military warehouse
 Quoting:

[link to s425.photobucket.com]

Repeating again for smart russian folks: all Ukrainian tanks repainted and has white line on board, amount and scheme of camouflage released by army command post. Ukrainian army has a full information about T-64 from russian army reserviour which are planned to use. Once more - on captured tanks had been checked a serial # of machines, all information already shared with USA/ EU and UN, the most funniest on that situation, just to avoid a noise from Russia that such kind of document not fake (not origin from Ukraine) - they are using old soviet documentation.
That impressive how russian military are stupid.
Only few tanks with camouflage which can be really available and has ukrainian # - from Crimea, but thats not a news for Ukraine
 Quoting:

[link to www.militaryphotos.net]
 Quoting: abraka_dabraka


Technically all Ukrainian tanks (and other weapons) are from Russia/Soviet Union...

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Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 · 1 min. Zobrazit překlad
#Torez, another day another shot down plane [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] �

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Ukraine Reporter ‏@StateOfUkraine · 3m
1 very important Russian player is missing from latest US sanctions: worlds largest gas producer & Russias economic powerhouse, Gazprom
 Quoting: Zombie Daddy in a Box

Hey dude, the sanctions include gazprom bank, and that is gazproms financing arm. In other words, how gazprom gets access to capital markets, so Ukraine Reporter dont know shit.
 Quoting: blubberbutt

The issue is not Gazprombanks ability to borrow money.
The issue is Gazprombanks now damaged ability to collect on money that it is owed and that USA is effectively defaulting on.

This proxy default (blocking debtor repayments) is a big enough issue in itself.
A bigger issue is that the world now sees that the USA seeks back-doors to default on its debts and will take action accordingly.

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Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 · 2 min. 
AN-26 plane shot down over #Torez [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] �

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Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 · 2 min. 
AN-26 plane shot down over #Torez [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] �


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Is this a another one?
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Babay ‏@Truth_Seeker_11 · 2 min. 
AN-26 plane shot down over #Torez [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] �


 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


Is this a another one?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47917525


Same from last minutes I guess (both videos from same incident), at least second today. First was Su-25.

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Hurrica MLRS in action. According video description Russian/self defense.




And just another one, probably same instalation...



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MICEX now in absolute free-fall down 2.9%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60317322

Which is it?
Free-fall or down 2.9%
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


closed at down 2.9%
 Quoting: Pookee


thats nothing, if there was panic it would crash over 10% in a day, considering russia is an emerging market with high volatility. Sanctions failed.
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According to user "Henschel" - previously captured rebels tanks were checked by serial number and proved to be from Russia. Anyone has more info about this issue?



Tank with blue#7 - captured by Ukrainian army in battle of Slavyanks, exposed at military exhibition at Kyiv few days before, by serial # checked when it was proiduced and shipped - tank from Russian military warehouse
 Quoting:

[link to s425.photobucket.com]

Repeating again for smart russian folks: all Ukrainian tanks repainted and has white line on board, amount and scheme of camouflage released by army command post. Ukrainian army has a full information about T-64 from russian army reserviour which are planned to use. Once more - on captured tanks had been checked a serial # of machines, all information already shared with USA/ EU and UN, the most funniest on that situation, just to avoid a noise from Russia that such kind of document not fake (not origin from Ukraine) - they are using old soviet documentation.
That impressive how russian military are stupid.
Only few tanks with camouflage which can be really available and has ukrainian # - from Crimea, but thats not a news for Ukraine
 Quoting:

[link to www.militaryphotos.net]
 Quoting: abraka_dabraka


Technically all Ukrainian tanks (and other weapons) are from Russia/Soviet Union...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


T84 tanks are made in Ukraine.
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According to user "Henschel" - previously captured rebels tanks were checked by serial number and proved to be from Russia. Anyone has more info about this issue?



Tank with blue#7 - captured by Ukrainian army in battle of Slavyanks, exposed at military exhibition at Kyiv few days before, by serial # checked when it was proiduced and shipped - tank from Russian military warehouse
 Quoting:

[link to s425.photobucket.com]

Repeating again for smart russian folks: all Ukrainian tanks repainted and has white line on board, amount and scheme of camouflage released by army command post. Ukrainian army has a full information about T-64 from russian army reserviour which are planned to use. Once more - on captured tanks had been checked a serial # of machines, all information already shared with USA/ EU and UN, the most funniest on that situation, just to avoid a noise from Russia that such kind of document not fake (not origin from Ukraine) - they are using old soviet documentation.
That impressive how russian military are stupid.
Only few tanks with camouflage which can be really available and has ukrainian # - from Crimea, but thats not a news for Ukraine
 Quoting:

[link to www.militaryphotos.net]
 Quoting: abraka_dabraka


Technically all Ukrainian tanks (and other weapons) are from Russia/Soviet Union...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


T84 tanks are made in Ukraine.
 Quoting: Chippey


O.k., almost all.
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According to user "Henschel" - previously captured rebels tanks were checked by serial number and proved to be from Russia. Anyone has more info about this issue?



...

[link to s425.photobucket.com]

...

[link to www.militaryphotos.net]
 Quoting: abraka_dabraka


Technically all Ukrainian tanks (and other weapons) are from Russia/Soviet Union...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


T84 tanks are made in Ukraine.
 Quoting: Chippey


O.k., almost all.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


no gas no tanks huehue.
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Fighting in #Luhansk today [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] �

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Moscow: Kiev allegations that Russian jet downed Ukraine plane absurd
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Technically all Ukrainian tanks (and other weapons) are from Russia/Soviet Union...
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


T84 tanks are made in Ukraine.
 Quoting: Chippey


O.k., almost all.
 Quoting: KneelB4Zod!


no gas no tanks huehue.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48147719


Yes, after this mess will be done west of Ukraine ends without Crimea, Novorossiya, tanks, aircraft, gas and gold. Not looking good...

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Moscow: Kiev allegations that Russian jet downed Ukraine plane absurd
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Which one they mean?

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�@Steiner1776: Breaking! 4 artillery shells fired by #Ukraine regime hit border checkpoint in #Russia [link to lifenews.ru] � #cdnpoli
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National Council for Radio and Television announced the launch of the satellite channel Ukraine today to cover the events in Ukraine abroad

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MICEX now in absolute free-fall down 2.9%
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60317322

Which is it?
Free-fall or down 2.9%
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


closed at down 2.9%
 Quoting: Pookee


thats nothing, if there was panic it would crash over 10% in a day, considering russia is an emerging market with high volatility. Sanctions failed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48147719


Those sanctions are more designed to show that US is still strong rather then hurt Russia in the long run.

Russias economy is based on resources - everyone wants to buy those and that aint gonna change until our energy technology will be diffrent :)

Oh and Russia is a huge market, most european countries wont allow any stop to exports to Russia.

Europes economy need Russias resources and market far more then it needs US.

But still there are dummies in UE and they can go with sanctions on Russia. But that will result in no economy growth > riots...

How stupid u must be to kill relations with Your energy supplier only cuz he did something to someone else who in fact wasnt paying his bills.

First UE must change its energy technology before it can go on a open economy war against Russia. Without this, we will lose and after some time, will return to Russia energy but we will be poor and Russia will dictate the terms.
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Which is it?
Free-fall or down 2.9%
 Quoting: FormerlyBritish


closed at down 2.9%
 Quoting: Pookee


thats nothing, if there was panic it would crash over 10% in a day, considering russia is an emerging market with high volatility. Sanctions failed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48147719


Those sanctions are more designed to show that US is still strong rather then hurt Russia in the long run.

Russias economy is based on resources - everyone wants to buy those and that aint gonna change until our energy technology will be diffrent :)

Oh and Russia is a huge market, most european countries wont allow any stop to exports to Russia.

Europes economy need Russias resources and market far more then it needs US.

But still there are dummies in UE and they can go with sanctions on Russia. But that will result in no economy growth > riots...

How stupid u must be to kill relations with Your energy supplier only cuz he did something to someone else who in fact wasnt paying his bills.

First UE must change its energy technology before it can go on a open economy war against Russia. Without this, we will lose and after some time, will return to Russia energy but we will be poor and Russia will dictate the terms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59284360


heh thing is it will. But Russia and Chin already know this and are infiltrating EU market through the Balkans, industrializing it with their enterprises. It will only grow and EU will be locked down, it cant sanction EU enterprises. EU bureaucrats are getting outsmarted again, long term, they just dont know it yet.

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