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Iraq war 8th year: All "intelligence" for war proven as Orwellian and treasonous lies. Now what?


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When US government “leaders” told known lies to unlawfully invade Iraq seven years ago, they committed the crime of treason by levying war against our own soldiers and Constitution. Corporate media are complicit in treason as they also lied by commission and omission to dupe American soldiers and public into “emperor has no clothes” obvious unlawful Wars of Aggression.

Those Americans in key positions committed to keeping our constitutional republic rather than a fascist empire are running out of time to enact their Oath to protect and defend the US Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to refuse all orders associated with these unlawful wars and arrest those who issue them.
 
Those same fascist “leaders,” this time the Left arm rather than the Right of the one American Fascist political body, are escalating rhetoric for new unlawful, lie-based, and treasonous war with Iran. This is likely to involve a false flag attack to kill Americans, blame Iran, and launch another “defensive” war that might include first-strike use of nuclear weapons per US policy. It might also involve a false flag cyber attack blamed on “terrorists” that would result in shutting-down all “suspicious” Internet sources, including the hundreds of writers such as the one you now read.
 
 
This article will review:
1.      The public evidence proves beyond doubt that all claims for war with Iraq were known lies at the time they were told.
2.      The US attack and invasion of Iraq was unlawful in Orwellian degree.
3.      The only lawful response from US leaders is to admit the “emperor has no clothes” facts to immediately end these unlawful wars and prosecute its leaders.
4.      I recommend a Truth and Reconciliation component to exchange truth and return of public assets for full disclosure of the political and economic agenda driving these fascist policies of empire and destruction of the US Constitution and economy. Because criminal complicity is so deep in both political parties, corporate media, and key economic institutions, the most expeditious strategy to end criminal acts and turn our nation’s resources to constructive use is to encourage safe and full disclosure. That which is not disclosed in a reasonable window of time, such as one year, will be subject to criminal and civil prosecution.
 
1. Evidence that Iraq war claims were all known as OBVIOUS lies as they were told: I initially created the following information as a brief for my students and members of Congress in 2006. When this information apparently so disturbed the school board who employed me and resulted in my being released from teaching, I then turned it into articles for Examiner.com: 
 
Americans and the world no longer need BELIEVE anything; the specific evidence used to justify invading two countries is now public knowledge. All we have to do is match the government's claims to the exact evidence and you can decide for yourself.
 
First, as you may recall, there were four basic claims of fact presented by political "leadership" to invade Iraq:
 
1. Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD), a scary-sounding name for specific chemical and biological weapons.
2. The US intercepted aluminum tubes that could only be used to refine nuclear material; irrefutable evidence that Iraq had restarted a nuclear weapons program.
3. Saddam had attempted to purchase enriched uranium from Niger; more evidence that Iraq had reconstituted nuclear weapons development.
4. Saddam had links to Al Qaeda, the alleged terrorists who attacked the US on 9/11.
 
Here's what we know about the evidence from which those claims were made. This is the summary; for my complete briefing, read here, here, and browse here.
 
1. George Tenet, Director of the CIA, acknowledged that all US intelligence agency reports "never said there was an imminent threat."  This was based on a long history of intelligence reports, the facts that the chemical and biological weapons under consideration were relatively weak without a delivery system, and that Iraq was highly motivated NOT to use them against the US given their understanding such use would provoke war with the world's most powerful military.
 
2. The Bush administration claim of aluminum tubes that could only be used as centrifuges to refine fissionable material for nuclear weapons is directly refuted by the best expert witnesses available, the US Department of Energy (DOE) and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Their conclusion is that the tubes in question had diameters too small, the tubes were too thick, using aluminum as the material would be “a huge step backwards,” and the surface was anodized that made them impossible to serve this purpose. They also found that the tubes were easily explained for conventional use, as the specifications perfectly matched tubing for other purposes. The Senate Committee on Intelligence agreed that this claim had no basis from any available evidence. See also here.
 
3. This claim, repeated by President Bush in the 2003 State of the Union Address, was based on the "Niger documents." These papers were written in grammatically poor French, had a “childlike” forgery of the Niger President’s signature, and had a document signed by a foreign minister who had been out of office for 14 years prior to the date on the document. The forgeries showed-up shortly after the Niger embassy in Rome was robbed, with the only missing items being stationery and Niger government stamps. The same stationery and stamps were used for the forged documents. The CIA warned President Bush on at least three occasions to not make the claim due to the ridiculous evidence. In addition, if Saddam really was making an illegal uranium purchase, it’s likely that both Saddam and the Niger government officials would insist on not having a written record that would document the crime. Republican US Ambassador to Niger, Joseph Wilson, confirmed this information and reported in detail to Vice President Cheney’s office and the CIA.
 
4. As to the claim of a relationship between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda, all US intelligence agencies reported that no such relationship existed (and here).
 
Some war liars argue that UN Security Council Resolution 687 from 1991 authorizes resumption of force from the previous Gulf War. This resolution declared a formal cease-fire; which means exactly what it says: stop the use of force. The resolution was declared by UNSC and held in their jurisdiction; that is, no individual nation has authority to supersede UNSC’s power to continue or change the status of the cease-fire (further explanation here). The idea that the US and/or UK can authorize use of force under a UNSC cease-fire is as criminal as your neighbor shooting one of your family members and claiming that because police have authority to shoot dangerous people he can do it. 
 
Perhaps this analogy will help in one paragraph of allegorical history, one paragraph of allegorical legal history, and one paragraph of legal analysis:
 
Tony and his Uncle Sam had a Machiavellian history of 40 years with Saddam; a history that included mutually-agreed political assassinations and business transactions worth billions in profits. Sam supplied material assistance to Saddam in attacking his neighbor, Mahmoud, from 1980-1988 after Mahmoud refused further dictatorship from Sam over billions in product profits. Sam and Tony had previously unlawfully taken over Mahoud’s business from 1953-1979. After further complex history between Sam and Saddam, Saddam began selling his product for currencies other than exclusively for Sam’s currency.
 
In response, Tony and Sam claimed Saddam has deadly weapons with the intent to use them. Saddam had a previous conviction and was forbidden to possess such weapons, but had refused to be searched after Sam made public statements that “someone” should assassinate Saddam. When Sam and Tony threatened to attack Saddam because of his alleged weapons and refusal to be legally searched, Saddam agreed to be searched. While the police were searching Saddam, with no weapons found and when the search was almost complete, Tony and Sam shoot and kill Saddam.
 
Tony and Sam claim legal self-defense. They claim that the law allows the police to shoot dangerous people with weapons. They say because they had “credible intelligence” Saddam had weapons he was certain to use, Tony and Sam are justified in killing Saddam and “making the world a safer place.” The facts that Saddam was being searched by the police, that the police have the authority to do the shooting and not Tony and Sam (unless they are under reasonable imminent threat of Saddam shooting, which both agree was not the case) is immaterial. Tony says Saddam was a psychopath and a monster. Sam says people like Saddam hate Tony and Sam “for our freedoms.”
 
Looking further, Sam and then Tony  threaten to attack Mahmoud because they claim he has secret deadly weapons with the intent to use them. The police regularly search Mahmoud and have never found evidence of any weapon. Tony and Sam also say Mahmoud threatens to destroy his friend, Benjamin, to “wipe him off the map.” The source of the accusation is a speech Mahmoud made about Benjamin’s abuses of his neighbor, with the transcript proving Mahmoud made no threat, that Sam apparently is again looking for unlawful control over Mahmoud’s business, and that Tony and Sam are obviously lying. Despite the facts, Tony and Sam continue their allegations that Mahmoud is dangerous, saying “the clock is ticking,” and the time for talk is coming to an end.
  
2. US attack and invasion of Iraq is unlawful in Orwellian degree: The facts of all claims for war being lies, and the fact that the US and UK have no authority to end a UNSC declared cease-fire make war unlawful, but there’s more. Perhaps the most important law for our military, government and citizens to understand is when war is and is not legal. From my article explaining those laws
 
Letter of the UN Charter: The UN Charter is a Treaty in Force; an active US treaty. Article VI of the US Constitution declares treaties as having equal power with Constitutional law and laws from Congress. This is also known as the Supremacy Clause.
 
Therefore what the US president and 2/3 of the Senate have agreed to in a treaty is the law of the US until such time as the US rescinds that treaty obligation. The UN Charter is therefore the law of the US with its clear restrictions of using war as a foreign policy option.
 
The preamble of the United Nations includes to “save succeeding generations from the scourge of war… to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and… to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used…”
 
The UN purpose includes: "To maintain international peace and security, and to that end: to take effective collective measures for the prevention and removal of threats to the peace, and for the suppression of acts of aggression or other breaches of the peace, and to bring about by peaceful means, and in conformity with the principles of justice and international law, adjustment or settlement of international disputes or situations which might lead to a breach of the peace..."
 
Article 51: Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security.
 
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) is the judicial branch of the UN. Their definition of “armed attack” is by a nation’s government. Because the leadership of the CIA and FBI both reported that they had no evidence that the Afghan government had any role in the 9/11 terrorism, the US is unable to claim Article 51 protection for military action in Afghanistan. The legal classification of what happened on 9/11 is an act of terrorism, not an armed attack. In addition, American Daniel Webster helped create the legal definition of national self-defense in the Caroline Affair as "necessity of that self-defence is instant, overwhelming, and leaving no choice of means, and no moment for deliberation." The US attack on Afghanistan came nearly a month after the 9/11 terrorism. Article 51 only allows self-defense until the Security Council takes action; which they did in two Resolutions (1368 and 1373) claiming jurisdiction in the matter.   
 
In conclusion, unless a nation can justify its military use as self-defense from armed attack from a nation’s government that is "instant, overwhelming, and leaving no choice of means, and no moment for deliberation," all other acts of war are unlawful. The legal definition of “self-defense” ends when the attack terminates. In general legal definition, no party is allowed use of force under the justification of “self-defense” if the law can be applied for redress and remedy. 
 
Letter of the US 1973 War Powers Act (WPA): The authorization by Congress for US presidential discretion for military action in Afghanistan  and Iraq references WPA. This act, in response to the Vietnam War, reframes the Founders’ intent of keeping the power of war in the hands of Congress. It also expressly limits the president to act within US treaty obligations; the principle treaty of use of war being the UN Charter.
 
This means that presidential authority as commander-in-chief must always remain within the limitations of the UN Charter to be lawful orders.
 
Philosophy/Spirit of US laws of war: After WW2, humanity spoke and legislated that all wars not in self-defense of an attack upon the nation are unlawful. The world’s citizens and leaders demanded peace.
 
We can anticipate that if a government wanted to engage in unlawful war today, they would construct their propaganda to sell the war as “defensive.” The future of humanity to be safe from the scourge of war is therefore dependent upon their collective ability to discern lawful defensive wars from unlawful Wars of Aggression covered in BS claims of defense.
 
An analogy of BS legal cover is the White House “legal” memos attempting to explain obvious torture as legal. When an authority in an expensive suit with a team of lawyers says something vicious is both legal and moral, you should also recognize that is the obvious strategy for a political faction to execute an unlawful war.  
 
Unlawful war analysis: Governments have been vicious killers over the last 100 years, using BS to justify their wars. The UN Charter’s meaning to make war an unlawful act is abundantly clear in its detailed explanations. The US attack of Afghanistan on October 7, 2001 was a deliberate act of unlawful war, not defense that was "instant, overwhelming, and leaving no choice of means, and no moment for deliberation." The burden of proof the US would have to provide is imminent threat of another attack in order to justify self-defense. US Ambassador to the UN, John Negroponte, in his letter to the UN Security Council invoking Article 51 for the attack upon Afghanistan mentions only “ongoing threat;” which does not satisfy this burden of proof. 
 
Article 51 requires self-defensive war coming from an attack by a nation’s government, which the CIA and FBI refute in the case of the Afghan government with the terrorism on 9/11. Self-defense ends when the attack ends. The US war began four weeks after 9/11 ended; making the US war one of choice and not defense. Article 51 ends self-defense claims when the UN Security Council acts. Resolution 1373 provides clear language of international cooperation and justice under the law, with no authorization of force. This evidence doesn’t require the light of the UN Charter’s spirit of its laws, but I’ll add it: humanity rejected war as a policy option and requires nations to cooperate for justice under that law. The US has instead embraced and still embraces war with its outcomes of death, misery, poverty, and fear expressly against the wishes of humanity and the majority of Americans. These acts are clearly unlawful and should be refused and stopped by all men and women in military, government and law enforcement.
 
The Iraq war in 2003 includes these reasons and expands them with all claims made for war being known as false at the time they were told to the American people and our troops. Your examination of the disclosed evidence will prove that we were lied to as the evidence is obviously and criminally misrepresented. This link provides a summary explanation with further links of complete documentation.
 
3. Ending US wars by telling the “emperor has no clothes” obvious truth and prosecuting: The US military and government have an Oath to defend and protect the US Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The Founding Fathers envisioned domestic threat to usurp the limited government and unalienable rights they created; therefore I emphasize the part of our current oath to defend against DOMESTIC THREAT to our Constitutional rights and protections.
 
The above documentation clearly shows the Iraq war as unlawful and treasonous. It will end as any criminal activity ends, through arrest and prosecution.
 
Hoping for change is not an effective strategy.
 
4. The possible productive role of Truth and Reconciliation: The American fascist crimes are broad and deep. From my article on this topic
 
US political “leaders” who wage illegal and horrific Wars of Aggression, the worst crime a nation can commit, are actively attacking our Constitution and values. Neither political party will prosecute these crimes.
 
So what do we do?
 
Offer Truth and Reconciliation.
 
Truth and Reconciliation (T&R) offers the people who would like to have a “Scrooge conversion” a safe way to do so. T&R exchanges truth and cooperation to name names and recover stolen public assets for no prosecution. It splits the traitors into those committed to evil from those who stand by the values of the Declaration of Independence that all human beings are equally valued and valuable. If we are all equal, brothers and sisters of one Creator as most people hold in their spiritual/religious/philosophical ontologies, then public policy has to be for the public good. Current policy in finance and war is psychopathic: destructive to the public good with a veneer of socially acceptable behavior and charm.
 
The freedom for criminals to repent and live the short amount of time they have remaining in their physical bodies in peace is an attractive deal for them and us. We receive an end to war, rapidly end poverty, recover trillions of missing public money (hopefully), reclaim our civil rights, open suppressed technologies like free energy (and here), and avoid war from a cornered enemy who fears prosecution for treason. They receive all their remaining years to live in freedom (I would argue that we give them further incentive for reasonable material comfort) and reclaim their connection and love for humanity; thier very soul.
 
T&R remains open for anyone to come forward and for anyone named to testify under oath. Those who choose to not cooperate and/or lie under oath are subject to full prosecution under the law when the window for T&R closes. Our slogan can be: Truth or Prosecute, Baby!
 
I’ll end with my usual admonition for action after the artistic videos from Bravenew Foundation and PuppetGov. I also recommend these four articles in consideration of our eighth year of Iraq war: here, here, here, and here.
 
 
 
 
Fellow Americans: literally for the love of God, it’s time.
 
It’s time for our men and women in government and military to choose: either stand with the US Constitution you’ve sworn to support and defend against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC, or remain complicit in ongoing Wars of Aggression, mass murder of our soldiers and our fellow humans in other lands and throwing trillions of our tax dollars to do so, pushing the world ever-closer to an apparently planned and desired nuclear Third World War (and here), and guilty of what Dr. Martin Luther King called “Silence is Betrayal” before the US government assassinated him according to the only trial conducted for his murder.
 
It’s time for our men and women in the military and government to refuse all orders associated with our unlawful wars and preparation for unlawful war with Iran over one gram of medical isotope worth $75,000 in 20% enriched nuclear fuel. It is hard to imagine a more ridiculous case for war.
 
It’s time for our men and women in the military and government to refuse all orders associated with our unlawful wars and preparation for unlawful war with Iran and stand with the American public who declare in a ratio of 9 to 1 that our government no longer represents them under the US Constitution.
 
It’s time: exercise your 1st Amendment right to freedom of speech and press, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. Please provide this article to all Americans if you find it helpful to stop current and future unlawful wars.
 
Over 5,000 US soldiers have been killed so far as pawns of the civilian and military brass tyrants. Multiples more have been crippled physically and emotionally. There is no end in sight to current wars; indeed, the US is expanding them into Pakistan and Yemen and threatening more war with Iran. The dead are comforted by God; their families are devastated by the loss of their loved-ones. The crippled and their families face a range of challenges; many so severe that a total of 6,000 US veterans commit suicide every year. One-third of all US homeless men are veterans.
 
Our military was duped into these wars with calculated "Big Lies;" our trusting young men and women took an Oath to support and defend the US Constitution that supersedes the Nazi insert of “placing the mission first.” The Claus von Stauffenberg faction of US military and government must act to end this soulless mass-murdering; this loveless series of unlawful wars and unlawful orders, if we want a future we’re proud to build.
  
This choice is up to our men and women in uniform and government for leadership. I provide:
 
 
And, our men and women in uniform must take action as they see best; as will our men and women in government and citizenry. As a teacher of government and law, I conclude our government leadership is guilty of treason against the American public, and guilty of mass murder against our soldiers.
 
Choose well; our collective future, and your future, depend upon it.
  
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I appreciate your attention to these facts and encourage your further study and action consistent with your own self-expression. My recommendations:
 
Policy response: Gandhi and Martin Luther King advocated public understanding of the facts and non-cooperation with evil. I’m among hundreds who advocate:  
  1. Understand the laws of war (and here). These were legislated after WW2 and are crystal-clear that only self-defense, in a narrow legal meaning, can justify war. The current US wars are not even close to being lawful and are legal treason against the US. Those involved with US military, government, and law enforcement have an oath to protect and defend the US Constitution. To fulfill their oath they must immediately refuse all orders associated with unlawful wars and military-related constant violation of treaties, and arrest those who issue unlawful orders. The Oath of Enlistment to the US Constitution supersedes the fascist insertion of Nazi propaganda to "always place the mission first" of blindly following unlawful orders.
  2. Employ the obvious and simple solutions to end our economic controlled demolition and evolve to a civil economy. End poverty through global cooperation to achieve the UN Millennium Goals by developed countries investing 0.7% of their income (not that the UN is serious for their accomplishment, but the goals are what we should invest to produce). Support global security through cooperation, dignity, justice, and freedom. Create a US Department of Peace to help.
  3. Communicate. Trust your unique, beautiful, and powerful self-expression to share as you feel appropriate. Understand that while many people are ready to embrace difficult facts, many are not. Anticipate that you will be attacked and prepare your virtuous response in the spirit of competition, just as you do in other fields.
  4. Prosecute the war leaders for obvious violation of the letter and spirit of US war laws and constant lies to engage in further wars. Because the crimes are so broad and deep, I recommend Truth and Reconciliation (T&R) to exchange full truth and return of stolen US assets for non-prosecution. This is the most expeditious way to understand and end all unlawful and harmful acts. Those who reject T&R are subject to prosecution.

Comments

  • Earl 4 years ago

    But Iraq has been really quiet for a long time now??

    It seems the violence has stepped in Afghanistan in the past two years.

  • Walter L. Bradley Jr. 4 years ago

    Now what? Thanks to the apathy and inaction of the "Stupid Majority" and the incredibly "Dumb F**ks" that actually support and take part in the illegal, unprovoked, unjustifiable, and genocidal murderous war effort. The Imperialist Agenda of Global Hegemony and control of the worlds resources set forth by the Ruling Corporatocracy and its Military-Industrial Complex will continue unabated to its irreparably disastrous consequence. That's what!

  • Walter L. Bradley Jr. 4 years ago

    The only thing that has been quiet in Iraq is the American mainstream corporate media.

  • jack rabbit 4 years ago

    The anodized aspect of the tubes says it all.

  • Harpo Marx 4 years ago

    I don't usually talk, but Walter L. Jr. just sceeered the bejesus out of me. You mean there is a war going on with bombs and airplanes and all? Just like in 2003-2007?

    How come we haven't seen all this on the European or Asian press either? I'll just have to honk you with my honking Cane if you 'persist without proof'. ( Hint: This is where a link should be provided by you like the author of the article has done above.)

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    Readers and Earl:
    Earl is the usual first post from PSYOPS/Operation Mockingbird in pathetic propagandist attempt to distract from the damning facts.

    So if members of Earl’s family had been murdered continuously and the murdering slowed the last two years, then it’s all ok? Earl would walk up today to a dead American soldier’s grieving and weeping family at his/her funeral and say that the lies that killed their loved one are less important than Iraq being “really quiet”?

    Or try that with the family of an American who died in Iraq five years ago. I’m sure they’d agree that less murders excuses the lies that killed their family member. Man, it’s a good thing people like that don’t know where you live.

    Actually the depleted uranium deaths are just beginning, along with the birth defects from the DU, if you read the links.

    “Earl,” you pathetic fascist sycophant: you’ll have the future you work to produce for your family and you. Better consider a “Scrooge conversion.”

  • Earl 4 years ago

    NO! I'm not saying that! Of course their deaths will linger and have a far reaching affect. I just noticed that the "war" is quiet. So really the WAR is now in Afghanistan wouldn't you agree?

    And I am not a bird, mocking or otherwise. Ok you caught me I'm not amn Earl. I'm the "Duke of Earl" like the song. Sheesh!

    Anyway Harpo seems to agree with me. Were's the proof that a war is still going on? You're good at links.

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    2 of 2:
    …by some estimates, for 1 million Iraqi deaths (Extra!, 1/2/08) continues to severely impact Iraqis in ways that go uncovered by the U.S. press.

    From early on in the occupation of Iraq, one of the most pressing concerns for Iraqis-besides ending the occupation and a desperate need for security-has been basic infrastructure. The average home in Iraq today, over six and a half years into the occupation, operates on less than six hours of electricity per day (AP, 9/7/09). "A water shortage described as the most critical since the earliest days of Iraq’s civilization is threatening to leave up to 2 million people in the south of the country without electricity and almost as many without drinking water," the Guardian (8/26/09) reported; waterborne diseases and dysentery are rampant. The ongoing lack of power and clean drinking water has even led Iraqis to take to the streets in Baghdad (AP, 10/11/09), chanting, "No water, no electricity in the country of oil and the two rivers."

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    Readers and Earl:
    1 of 2:
    Oh? Not a disinfo agent, you say?

    I’ll give you one more attempt to address the topic of the article that you so far dodge: will you honor the dead in Iraq by stating the “emperor has no clothes” obvious that all reasons documented in the article were known lies when they were told to the public and the then-living soldiers?

    If so, then you also agree that the US government “leaders” who told those lies are guilty of levying war on our own soldiers; treason. Yes?

    Try looking-up “The new “forgotten” war”:

    But while U.S. forces have begun to slowly pull back in Iraq, approximately 130,000 American troops and 114,000 private contractors still remain in the country (Congressional Research Service, 12/14/09)-along with an embassy the size of Vatican City. Upwards of 400 Iraqi civilians still die in a typical month (Iraq Body Count, 12/31/09), and fallout from the occupation that is now responsible…

  • Earl (Duke of) 4 years ago

    I'll agree with you when you say in your article our leaders are engaged in a Fascist Empire rather than protecting and strengthening our constitutional Republic. I'll agree with you on that. And that Fascist empire is turning against it's own people

  • JO 4 years ago

    Thank you for another great post Carl. Kudos!

  • JO 4 years ago

    Oh, might I recommend reading the article I just sent around to my own email list that addresses the comment made by Earl about the "empire turning against its own people?" It's titled "The Nine Stages of American Autogenocide" by Mary Rose Crow. I think it will explain a lot.

    Darn! Why can't we include a URL in our comments? Geeeeez.

  • theCarlWatcher 4 years ago

    JO,

    You can Blue in a link, then copy it to the comment section, THEN take out the http // and www. leave the rest. Motivated readers can then copy to their address bar and retype in the http ans stuff.

    Please post your article.

    High Carl, I think this is right. Right?

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    JO's article can be found with a web search with the title; I just checked and got a full page of different sources for it.

    Thank you, JO and CarlWatcher :)

  • ted 4 years ago

    obama stood up to the lewish lobby and israel and WON , we wont be attacking anymore countries thank god. as far as treason well we should charge aipac and their operatives in government

  • Satya 4 years ago

    Good on yer, Carl - finally some in-depth, reality-based MSM reportage....bbbut where have you been these last 9 years? ;-)

    ps 'Earl' sounds more Pentagoon than Zio-stooge to me. The stench of 'Distract, Divert, Deceive & rule by Division' from these 'people' is getting so strong now, anyone with half a nose can smell them. Trick is not to waste time on them - they're just not worth the effort any more; expose and 'move on', to use one of their milder psy-op phrases...

  • Mock Schnell 4 years ago

    Listen you guys. Lighten up. Do you remember Congress passing this resolution? Read it in light of this article, and get a life.

    Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution 2002
    c-span.org/Content/PDF/hjres114.pdf

    Further, these links contradict this article thoroughly:

    truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bushlied.htm

    washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR2008060801687.html

    Herman's hysterical rant serves no purpose other than puffing his already inflated ego.

  • Rocket J. Squirrel 4 years ago

    Hokey Smokes, Bullwinkle! Look at this! Here's some egomaniacal nutjob posting on some little-known site getting at most a couple hundred hits a day - and he's convinced Boris and Natasha and the entire Spy vs Spy crew is out to get him and silence him!

    Never mind that his whole "lied to go to war" thesis has been thoroughly discredited by virtually every serious scholar who has looked at it - that the conclusion by Left, Right, Centrist and any other foreign policy type is that the Bush Administration deluded themselves into war by letting their preconceptions color what they saw, let their beliefs override any contradictory intelligence.

    No, CARL HERMAN HAS SEEN THE TRUTH - and it has made him even more paranoid!

    Bwahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhhhhhaaaaa....

    We the Evil Overlords have succeeded!!!!!!

  • Alice 4 years ago

    Mock Schnell:"Do you remember Congress passing this resolution? Read it in light of this article, and get a life."
    My response: (1) The US Congress passed Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution on 10/16/02. (2) The UN SECURITY COUNCIL passed Resolution 1441 on 11/8/02.This resolution offered Saddam Hussein "a final opportunity to comply with its disarmament obligations" that had been set out in several previous resolutions. (3)To the DISMAY of the Bush Administration, Hussein allowed the UN inspectors into Iraq later part 11/02. (4) UN inspectors were to report back ONLY to the UN Security Council. ONLY the UN Security Council, NOT US, under UN SC Res 1441 had legal right to declare war on Iraq. (5)Neither US nor UK, had right to declare a war. They attempted to pass another UN Resolution so THEY could declare war. Resolution was NOT passed. (6) US and UK unilaterally attacked Iraq 3/19/03 without UN backing. They used outdated, FAKE, plagiarized "evidence."

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    2 of 2: The evidence damns the war as an unlawful War of Aggression that should immediately by refused by our military with those having arrest power exercising it.

    Rocket opens with a lie: Quantcast rates Examiner.com as one of the world’s top 100 sites. Rocket argues for blind trust in government and lies about academic agreement to distract from the evidence our own government has disclosed and anyone can see for themselves. Rocket would have been a perfect Nazi dupe to tell Germans to trust their Fuhrer.

    These two fascist stooges are pathetic. They mold their thoughts, words, and acts around criminal mass murder and how to lie in its protection.

    They will get the future of their choice, what they work to create, what they build, as will everyone else.

    Choose well, dear readers. It’s time to fully experience and express the person you’ve always wanted to be.

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    Readers, Mock and Rocket:
    1 of 2: Observe the tone and rhetoric of these two fascist war shills; probably Operation Mockingbird because both irrationally deny the objective evidence anyone can verify. These two are literal psychopaths; pretending a veneer of socially-acceptable behavior in pathetic attempt to cover Orwellian lies for mass murder.

    Mock hopes people don’t understand the resolution authorizing force in Iraq in light of its explicit reminder of US treaty obligations under the UN Charter that make US attack and invasion obviously unlawful.

    Mock’s first link shows Democrats lying for war with Iraq, which supports my argument. Mock’s second link has a war-whore politician saying “evidence substantiated claims” rather than what I do: list the evidence, state the claim, and prove that the claim is a lie. Mock will never address the actual evidence; he can’t.

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    Alice!

    You have much "muchness" as the Mad Hatter spoke to the movie Alice! You are exactly correct.

    Thank you for helping expose those two fascists as the un-American lying and loveless murderers that they have so far chosen to be.

  • Alice 4 years ago

    Robert J. Squirrel: "Never mind that his whole "lied to go to war" thesis has been thoroughly discredited.."

    My response: Let's be nice. Instead of "lied," let's use "didn't tell the truth." It's one of two things: (1) Bush didn't "tell the truth." He didn't realize it was not the truth…because he was completely in the dark. (2) Bush didn't "tell the truth." He KNEW it was not the truth.
    Which ever it was, he was proven completely INCOMPETENT. War is not a video game. WAR is serious. People get killed in WARS.

    ALL "evidence" should have been absolutely checked out thoroughly. ALL opinions from Dems and Repubs should have been checked out. Just because so and so says something doesn't mean it's always correct. THOUSANDS of innocent, defenseless people who had NOTHING to do with terrorism or with 9/11 have been KILLED because of Bush's "not telling the truth."

  • Rocky the Flying Squirrel 4 years ago

    Careful, Alice - you stray dangerously far from the approved Carl Herman dogma, even suggesting the that Bush could have been "incorrect" rather than an outright lying fascist warmonger.

    See, the overwhelming opinion of those willing to actually examine the evidence is that the Bush Administration decided on a policy and then believed only that intelligence that supported the policy - disbelieving anything contrary to their preconceptions.

    But see, that means that, by and large, they weren't "evil" (except maybe Darth Cheney, who seems to have embraced the Dark Side) - they were "stupid."

    And all you can do about stupid is shake your head, be glad they're not in power anymore, and try to clean up the messes they left behind.

    And Herman, the statement wasn't about the overall ranking of fascist Phil Anschutz' examiner.com in the aggregate, it was about the paltry number of hits YOU get.

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    2 of 2: Readers, you should really be insulted by this war shill who tells you anything other than look at the evidence. I work with government and law professionally; but expert witnesses are only as good as they’re able to walk people through the evidence, which I do my best to do.

    This “Rocky” war shill has a war bandwagon to jump on instead of evidence: “Everybody who’s anybody is here!” Then he tries to convince you “nobody” is reading my work when he has zero data to work from. I have over 100,000 readers a month and am #4 in politics on Examiner for this year. People like Rocky better hope I become more popular, because I’m also a leader advocating Truth and Reconciliation rather than Operation Mockingbird assets being prosecuted for treason.

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    Readers and Rocky:
    1 of 2: “Rocky” the fascist liar is done now; I’ll delete his further pollution of the point of the article for people to examine the evidence rather than pointing to corporate media Operation Mockingbird assets who write whatever BS explanation they think will divert from the evidence.

    Yes, Operation Mockingbird, as documented by our own government of war shills propagandizing Americans, just as you Rocky is here.

    Alice nailed Rocky in her first comment in the clear rule of law; Rocky dodges the conclusion that he stands for mass-murder, and propagandizes to divide Alice and my explanation of law.

  • Alice 4 years ago

    Rocky the Flying Squirrel: "Careful, Alice - you stray dangerously far from the approved Carl Herman dogma, even suggesting the that Bush could have been "incorrect" rather than an outright lying fascist warmonger."

    My response: Bush, like some of his fellow warmongers, including ANYONE who didn't QUESTION the Iraq war BEFORE it started, (authority figures, elected officials, pastors, media, etc), may have truly believed that not telling the truth was perfectly OK, just so long as the results would bring the Biblical "Armageddon." Many of those obviously misdirected, insane people thought their evil decisions and actions were "holy" and "noble." Personally, I believe that it was #2..that Bush indeed KNEW he was not telling the truth (in other words..I'll quit the nicety..He INTENTIONALLY LIED). He and his Administration nick picked the so-called "intelligence" to start the Iraq war, and indeed KNEW what they were doing. One of our anti-war slogans was: "Bush lied, THOUSANDS died."

  • JO 4 years ago

    theCarlWatcher says:

    "You can Blue in a link, then copy it to the comment section, THEN take out the http // and www. leave the rest. Motivated readers can then copy to their address bar and retype in the http ans stuff."

    Please post your article.

    High Carl, I think this is right. Right?
    March 20, 8:36 PM

    CarlWatcher: I have no idea how to "Blue in a link." Just use the title as Carl did and Google it. Much simpler. Thanks anyway CarlWatcher. And thanks Carl.

  • Alice 4 years ago

    Rocky the Flying Squirrel:"..by and large, they weren't "evil" (except maybe Darth Cheney,who seems to have embraced the Dark Side)- they were "stupid."And all you can do about stupid is shake your head, be glad they're not in power anymore, and try to clean up the messes they left behind."

    Instead of goose-stepping and thinking it was "patriotic" to hide underneath flags, it was up to the American people to question Bush's Administration's decision to start an illegal, so-called "pre-emptive" war in Iraq that was OBVIOUSLY built on outdated, fake, plagiarized "evidence." As of today, 4,704 coalition troops have been killed in Iraq. Of that number, 4,386 were American men and women sent to kill and be killed for…what YOU call decisions by "stupid" people? ANYONE who started this war and those who supported it WITHOUT questioning..have the BLOOD on their hands of THOUSANDS of people caught in the cross fires of EVIL. We haven't learnt anything from past history.THAT'S the "STUPID."

  • Rocky 4 years ago

    Bring it on, Herman. I can PROVE I'm not "Mockingbird" or any other kind of plant - and your T&R will bring you nothing but a libel lawsuit.

    Alice, you talk big online - but did YOU stand up and fight the Bush Bozos BEFORE they went into Iraq, trying to get them to pay attention to the intelligence showing Iraq's WMD program was dead? Did YOU quit a perfectly lucrative career you'd spent decades on, give up a top-level security clearance?

    Having seen it up close and personal, I have NO DOUBT that Bush et al genuinely believed what they were saying - and no doubt at all that history will conclude the same.

    The only thing more STUPID than the Bush Team were the pathetic anti-war twits who waved their arms in futile protest and failed to make use of the evidence being made public before the war by courageous reporters like those with the Knight Ridder Washington Bureau.

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    2 of 2: He won’t appreciate the irony of asking you to believe in his “believe” theory after claiming he tried presenting evidence to refute the “believe” theory years ago. Nor will he get the irony of using “Bring it on.”

    Most importantly, Mr. “Bring it on” does not, will not, honor his Oath to support and defend the US Constitution to end these unlawful wars.

    Mr. “Bring it on” tells stories and allows the wars to continue. His policy seems to be limited to shaking his head and calling people who opposed the war “twits.”

    I present what we now have as the disclosed evidence, history and letter of applicable law, and assert with my request for you to verify that the claims are obvious lies and the laws of war are violate in Orwellian degree.

    You choose the path you want.

  • Carl Herman (LA County Nonpartisan Examiner) 4 years ago

    Readers and “Rocky”:
    1 of 2: I know I promised to delete further non-evidence comments from this person, but this is good propaganda to crush.

    Let’s compare Mr. “Bring it on” and my call for understanding the laws of war, evidence, and from the obvious conclusions that the US was lied into an “emperor has no clothes” obvious unlawful war that our military should refuse further orders and those with authority to arrest those who issue them.

    Mr. “Bring it on” claims that we should believe his testimony of his analysis of others’ testimony to conclude Bush Administrative officials “believed in” Iraq WMD. Mr. “Bring it on” through repeated comments will not explore the clear letter and spirit of war laws to actually end war, and that the US claims, even if true, do not qualify for a lawful war. Mr. “Bring it on” will not discuss the actual evidence to connect his “believe” theory with actual evidence in a rational argument.

  • Alice 4 years ago

    Rocky: "Alice, you talk big online-but did YOU stand up and fight the Bush Bozos BEFORE they went into Iraq…"

    My response: Yes. BEFORE the war started, I was among the THOUSANDS of protesters who tried desperately to encourage Americans to question Bush's "justifications" for the illegal Iraq war. The sanitized US media didn't report on those protests nor the REASONS why we were protesting? Like me, the majority of the protesters were overseas. The overseas media reported on issues not made public in American media. Unlike the majority of Americans, WE were free to question and discuss the issues without being called silly names like: "anti-American," "anti-military," and "unpatriotic." The majority of Americans fell for the obvious manipulation! Where were the debates in the US Congress BEFORE the war started? War is serious and many people all over the world were warning you that the WMD were not there. Instead of listening, Americans were hiding underneath their flags.

  • theCarlWatcher 4 years ago

    Will do Jo.

    Right click on your mouse, with the cursor on the link in the address bar. hit selesct all.Or with cursor on text or link hold downthe left button on your mouse while at same time dragging the mouse over what you want. On my screen the selected text is blue after.Then tap left button and click copy. Minimize that screen.Go to Carls article comments section and at the blinking curser click rright on mouse again and hit paste. The link will show and you then backspace away the http // www.

    examiner.com/x-18425-LA-County-Nonpartisan-Examiner~y2010m3d18-Look-your-victims-in-the-eyes-this-is-Iran-these-are-Iranians-to-be-killed-in-the-next-US-war

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