Wikipedia:Categories for discussion
This page has a backlog that requires the attention of one or more administrators. Please change this notice to {{No admin backlog}} when the backlog is cleared. |
Skip to current discussions ·
|
|
Deletion discussions |
---|
|
Articles |
Templates |
Files |
Possibly unfree files (PUF) |
Categories |
Redirects |
Miscellany |
Speedy deletion |
Proposed deletion |
Categories for discussion (CfD) is where the renaming, merging or deletion of categories – i.e. pages in the Category namespace – is discussed and action decided. Stub types templates are also discussed here.
Categories are used to organize pages and aid the browsing of related articles. For instructions as to how to use this page, perform cleanup maintenance or request speedy deletions or renamings, see "How to use CfD" below. The policies meant to guide category renaming may be found at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (categories).
Unless a change to a category is non-controversial – e.g. prompted by vandalism or duplication – please do not amend or remove the category from pages before a decision has been made.
Categories that have been listed for more than seven days are eligible for deletion, renaming or merging when a rough consensus to do so has been reached or no objections to the nomination have been raised.
When a category is renamed or merged with another category, it is usually helpful to leave an instance of the {{Category redirect|...}} template on the category's former page. See "Redirecting categories" below for more information.
Contents
Scope[edit]
CfD is only intended for discussions where an editor already has a clear action proposal in mind. For general brainstorming on how to improve the category system, good places for discussion include Wikipedia talk:Categorization, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Categories, and the talk pages of any WikiProjects relevant to the content covered by the categories in question.
Current discussions[edit]
Discussions awaiting closure[edit]
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 July 4
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 July 3
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 July 2
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 July 1
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 30
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 29
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 28
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 27
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 26 (1 open – 1)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 25 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 24 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 23 (6 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 22 (12 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 21 (11 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 20 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 19 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 18 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 17 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 16 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 15 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 14 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 13 (1 open – 1)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 10 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 9 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 7 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 6 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 5 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 4 (1 open – 1)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 2 (8 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 June 1 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 31 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 30 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 29 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 28 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 27 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 26 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 25 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 24 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 23 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 22 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 19 (8 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 18 (1 open – 1)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 17 (1 open – 1)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 16 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 15 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 14 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 13 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 11 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 9 (7 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 6 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 4 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 3 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 May 1 (1 open – 1)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 27 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 26 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 25 (2 open – not complicated)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 24 (4 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 21 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 19 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 18 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 17 (1 open – 1)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 14 (5 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 13 (3 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 April 11 (2 open)
- Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 March 22 (1 open – 1)
How to use CfD[edit]
Procedure[edit]
To list a category manually for deletion, merging or renaming, follow this process:
I |
Preliminary steps.
Determine whether the category needs deleting, merging, or renaming.
|
II |
Edit the category.
Add one of the following tags at the beginning of the category text of every category to be discussed. (The tags belong on the categories' main pages rather than their talk/discussion pages.)
|
III |
Create the CFD section.
Click on THIS LINK to edit the section of CFD for today's entries. Follow the instructions in the comments (visible during edit), to copy and paste the template shown. All categories are specified without the Category: prefix.
|
Once you have previewed your entry, please make sure to add your signature after your proposal. If nominating a list of entries as a batch mentioned after your rationale, it is somewhat neater to place these after the signature (rather than leave the signature dangling at the end of the list, apparently unrelated to your reasons).
Once you have submitted a category here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is supported, helpful administrators and editors will log the result and ensure that the change is implemented to all affected pages.
Also, consider adding to your watchlist any categories you nominate. This will help ensure that your nomination tag is not mistakenly or deliberately removed.
Twinkle[edit]
The use of Wikipedia:Twinkle greatly facilitates CfD nominations. To install Twinkle, go to "my preferences", the "Gadgets" tab, the "Browsing" section and check "Twinkle ...". Use the now-installed "XfD" (Nominate for deletion) tab while viewing the page to be deleted or renamed.
Users without accounts and users with new accounts[edit]
Users without accounts (unregistered users) may nominate and comment on proceedings, just as in Articles for Deletion (AfD).
Redirecting categories[edit]
It is our general policy to delete categories that do not have articles in them. (Rationale: Unlike articles, categories are mostly for internal use only. If they don't have any articles, they shouldn't have any links from any articles or any other categories, because they are not useful for navigation and sorting.)
However, some categories frequently have articles assigned to them accidentally, or are otherwise re-created over and over. But categories cannot be redirected using "hard" redirects: #REDIRECT[[target]]. (See Wikipedia:Redirect#category for the technical details.)
Instead, we use a form of "soft redirects" to solve the issue. You can "create" a category redirect by adding {{Category redirect|target}}
to the category page. Bots patrol these categories and move articles into the "redirect" targets. Notice that it's not a redirect at all as a wiki page; it's bots that virtually make them redirects.
In particular, we set up category redirects at the former category name when we convert hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations). It is also helpful to set up redirects from forms with plain letters (i.e. characters on a standard keyboard) where the category names include diacritics.
You can see a list of redirected categories in Category:Wikipedia category redirects.
Closing[edit]
When closing CfDs, document their results (e.g. with links to CfD page history) on the talk pages of the affected categories, if not deleted. If deleted, document the deletion decision in the deletion edit summary. See {{cfd top}}.
Special notes[edit]
When nominating a category, it's helpful to add a notice on the talk page of the most-closely related article. Doing so would not only extend an additional courtesy, but possibly also bring in editors who know more about the subject at hand. You can use {{Cfdnotice}} for this.
Categories that should exist but are missing articles or subcategories should be added to Category:Underpopulated categories using {{Popcat}}.
If a category is only used as generated by a template (e.g. Category:Foo Stubs to correspond with Template:Foo-stub), and that template is deleted by a regular WP:TFD process, then the category can be deleted as well as long as it was nominated along with the template, or mentioned early in the discussion.
Speedy renaming and merging
Categories may be listed for speedy renaming or speedy merging if they meet one or more of the criteria specified below. They must be tagged with {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}} so that users of the categories are aware of the proposal. A request may be processed 48 hours after it was listed if there are no objections. This delay allows other editors to review the request to ensure that it meets the criteria for speedy deletion, renaming, or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g. "patent nonsense", "recreation", categories that have been empty for four days) can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}, and no delay is required to process these. Renaming under C2E can also be processed instantly as it is a variation on G7.
Contested requests become stale, and can be un-tagged and de-listed, after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}. If the nominator wants to continue the process, s/he needs to submit the request as a regular CfD in accordance with the instructions here.
Speedy criteria[edit]
The category-specific criteria for speedy deletion, renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C1. Unpopulated categories[edit]
- That have been unpopulated for at least four days. This does not apply to disambiguation categories, category redirects, featured topics categories, categories under discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion (or other such discussions), or project categories that by their nature may become empty on occasion (e.g. Category:Wikipedians looking for help). Place {{Empty category}} at the top of the page to prevent such categories from being deleted.
- Tag category with {{Db-c1}}.
C2. Renaming or merging[edit]
-
- C2A. Typographic and spelling fixes.
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
-
- C2B. Enforcing established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices.
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
-
- C2C. Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names.
- This should only be used where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should only be applied when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
-
- C2D. Facilitating concordance between a particular category's name and a related article's name.
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous article (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related article's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is unambiguous, and uncontroversial – either because of longstanding stability at that particular name or immediately following a page move discussion which had explicit consensus to rename. If the page names are controversial or ambiguous in any way, then this criterion does not apply.
- This criterion also does not apply if there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or if there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages which resulted in a no consensus result.
-
- C2E. Author request.
- This criterion only applies if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within 28 days of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
- For C2A to C2E, tag category with {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}} and list on WP:CFDS. Administrators may implement C2E cases without delay.
For any categories that are not speedy candidates, use Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here,
- And no objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been as a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming here[edit]
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:{old name here}]] to [[:Category:{new name here}]] – {reason for rename here} ~~~~
This will sign and datestamp an entry automatically.
Remember to tag the category with: {{subst:Cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 19:11, 11 July 2015 (UTC). Currently, there are 79 open requests (. )
Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here! Categories are processed following the 48-hour discussion period and are moved by a bot. |
Current nominations[edit]
- Category:1605 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1605 establishments in the Dutch Republic – C2C: per Dutch Republic for years 1581–1795 Tim! (talk) 17:46, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:1710 disestablishments in the Netherlands to Category:1710 disestablishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1662 disestablishments in the Netherlands to Category:1662 disestablishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1784 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1784 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1766 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1766 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1737 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1737 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1725 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1725 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1722 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1722 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1719 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1719 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1661 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1661 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1660 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1660 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1653 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1653 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1641 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1641 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1638 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1638 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1637 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1637 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1636 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1636 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1634 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1634 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1633 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1633 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1630 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1630 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1627 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1627 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1624 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1624 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1616 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1616 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1609 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1609 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:1608 establishments in the Netherlands to Category:1608 establishments in the Dutch Republic
- Category:Rza albums to Category:RZA albums – C2D: per RZA. Jenks24 (talk) 13:54, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Eastern Football League to Category:Eastern Football League (Australia) – C2D: per Eastern Football League (Australia). Jenks24 (talk) 09:32, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:FIBA World Championship for Women to Category:FIBA Women's Basketball World Cup – C2D. FIBA changed the name of the tournament to FIBA Women's Basketball World Cup shortly after its 2014 edition. The parent article was moved shortly after FIBA officially announced this change. Dale Arnett (talk) 00:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:FIBA World Championship for Women templates to Category:FIBA Women's Basketball World Cup templates
- Note: The
twothree subcategories in the templates category that begin with "2014 FIBA World Championship for Women" must not be changed for reasons of historic accuracy. The rename didn't take place until after the 2014 championship.
- Note: The
- Category:FIBA World Championship for Women templates to Category:FIBA Women's Basketball World Cup templates
- Category:Oil and gas companies in Ghana to Category:Oil and gas companies of Ghana – C2B: convention of Category:Oil companies by country Tim! (talk) 06:38, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Adele (singer) songs to Category:Adele songs – C2D; because Adele is now the primary topic. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 03:32, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Adele (singer) albums to Category:Adele albums
- Category:Adele (singer) concert tours to Category:Adele concert tours
- Category:Adele (singer) to Category:Adele
- Category:Songs written by Adele (singer) to Category:Songs written by Adele
- Oppose speedy for the same reason, it was opposed the last time: ""Adele" is ambiguous, categories should not be overly ambiguous." Armbrust The Homunculus 18:09, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Shouldn't Adele be moved back to Adele (singer) then, so everything matches? Erpert blah, blah, blah... 04:10, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- I have no opinion about that, but the title doesn't become unambiguous just because the singer is the primary topic. Armbrust The Homunculus 04:34, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Shouldn't Adele be moved back to Adele (singer) then, so everything matches? Erpert blah, blah, blah... 04:10, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy for the same reason, it was opposed the last time: ""Adele" is ambiguous, categories should not be overly ambiguous." Armbrust The Homunculus 18:09, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:TPS players to Category:HC TPS players – C2D Dolovis (talk) 22:11, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Alumni of the Royal College, Colombo to Category:Alumni of Royal College, Colombo – C2C, other Sri Lankan school alumni categories do not have "the". obi2canibetalk contr 11:04, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Alumni of the Prince of Wales' College, Moratuwa to Category:Alumni of Prince of Wales' College, Moratuwa – C2C, other Sri Lankan school alumni categories do not have "the". obi2canibetalk contr 11:04, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Devi Sri Prasad albums to Category:Devi Sri Prasad soundtracks – C2A: There are no albums in this category, and he mainly composes soundtracks. Kailash29792 (talk) 07:30, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy It's a subcategory of Category:Albums by artist, and the proposed change also doesn't find under C2A. Also soundtracks are indeed albums. Armbrust The Homunculus 08:39, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Lists of office-holders in Christianity to Category:Lists of Christian religious leaders – C2C per parent Category:Lists of religious leaders. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:30, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:FIRA – Association of European Rugby to Category:Rugby Europe – C2D. The organization changed its name to Rugby Europe in 2014, and the parent article was moved accordingly at that time. Dale Arnett (talk) 19:07, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Tijuana Municipality, Baja California to Category:Tijuana Municipality – C2D. Eldizzino (talk) 18:22, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Baseball at the Summer Universaide to Category:Baseball at the Summer Universiade – C2A: typo Universiade. Sawol (talk) 15:25, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Palgrave Macmillan journals to Category:Palgrave Macmillan academic journals – C2B: All other categories in this tree use "academic journals". Randykitty (talk) 05:33, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Monotypic taxonomic groups to Category:Monotypic taxa – C2D: Sort of combination of C2A and C2D. The plural of taxon is "taxa". For the C2D, see Monotypic taxon and List of defunct taxa. (Category:Obsolete taxonomic groups has a bunch of subcats I want to rename, but I'm going to take them to full discussion.) --BDD (talk) 17:40, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Obsolete taxonomic groups to Category:Obsolete taxa
- @BDD: Comment I won't oppose the second, but I think it would make more sense to nominate it (with both of it's subcategories) for discussion without this rename. Armbrust The Homunculus 08:41, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Already done. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 July 9#Category:Prokaryotic obsolete taxonomic groups. --BDD (talk) 16:22, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- But that's category is not part of that nomination. In any case oppose as proposed. That should be renamed to Category:Defunct taxa, because the main list is called List of defunct taxa. (Although I'm unsure whether that's speediable.) Armbrust The Homunculus 04:17, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- Already done. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 July 9#Category:Prokaryotic obsolete taxonomic groups. --BDD (talk) 16:22, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- @BDD: Comment I won't oppose the second, but I think it would make more sense to nominate it (with both of it's subcategories) for discussion without this rename. Armbrust The Homunculus 08:41, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Obsolete taxonomic groups to Category:Obsolete taxa
- Category:Los Angeles performance art to Category:Performance art in Los Angeles - C2C. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:37, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- Category:California performance art to Category:Performance art in California
- Category:New York City performance art to Category:Performance art in New York City
Oppose There is no category that uses the proposed format. Armbrust The Homunculus 15:32, 23 June 2015 (UTC)- @Armbrust: what about Category:American art by state? – Fayenatic London 04:56, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Withdraw opposition, but the third category should probably be added to Category:Art in New York. Armbrust The Homunculus 05:46, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
- That's absurd. Every other category uses 'type of art' by state. You want to delete the categories, fine. Buty as long as they exist, it's absurd to object to them adhering to the completely standard X in Y structure. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:48, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Armbrust: what about Category:American art by state? – Fayenatic London 04:56, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
- Support - "art works in location" would seem to be the better construct. The current structure is ambiguous because it could include new york-style performance art, which may occur elsewhere (not "in" new york...) - jc37 03:04, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Opposed nominations[edit]
- Category:Non-profit organizations based in the Bahamas to Category:Non-profit organisations based in the Bahamas – C2C Should use local variety of English per WP:STRONGNAT AusLondonder (talk) 17:20, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy There is no clear convention in Category:Organizations based in the Bahamas. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:01, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Organizations based in Grenada to Category:Organisations based in Grenada – C2C Should use local variety of English per WP:STRONGNAT AusLondonder (talk) 17:19, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy I don't see to which category the C2C should apply. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:01, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:English atheists to Category:British atheists – C2C, C2D. Category tree Category:Atheists by nationality uses citizenship nationality for other sovereign states, ie France, USA (excluding Puerto Rico), Australia, Germany. Article is Irreligion in the United Kingdom and parent category is Category:Atheism in the United Kingdom AusLondonder (talk) 17:08, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose Subcategory of Category:English people by religion and Category:Secularism in England. Armbrust The Homunculus 21:01, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
-
- Comment: I have removed it from the English people by religion category. Atheism is not a religion. That is an oxymoron. AusLondonder (talk) 05:29, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- @AusLondonder: you not only did that, you removed it altogether from Category:English people. If you disagree with a particular categorisation, please move things up into appropriate parent categories rather than simply deleting them from the hierarchy.
- In this case I have started building national sub-cats for religious skeptics/sceptics, which seems the most useful way to go. Please do not remove those from "People by religion". – Fayenatic London 11:56, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: I have removed it from the English people by religion category. Atheism is not a religion. That is an oxymoron. AusLondonder (talk) 05:29, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Motor neurone disease to Category:Motor neurone diseases – C2C, plural. Brandmeistertalk 21:15, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- I think this would be incorrect. Category:IgG4-related disease is a similar recent case that we incorrectly renamed to "diseases" and had to change back. Motor neurone disease covers multiple disorders but I do not recall seeing it written as a plural. – Fayenatic London 07:49, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'd say this is moot and arcane for an average reader. The category lists several diseases and the ultimate parent category is in plural form, Category:Diseases and disorders, so the move would be logical. Brandmeistertalk 08:28, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose: this is a topic category and even has a 'people' subcat. It should be removed from Category:Diseases and disorders. Oculi (talk) 00:07, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'd say this is moot and arcane for an average reader. The category lists several diseases and the ultimate parent category is in plural form, Category:Diseases and disorders, so the move would be logical. Brandmeistertalk 08:28, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- I think this would be incorrect. Category:IgG4-related disease is a similar recent case that we incorrectly renamed to "diseases" and had to change back. Motor neurone disease covers multiple disorders but I do not recall seeing it written as a plural. – Fayenatic London 07:49, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Digital newspapers to Category:Online newspapers – C2D: Online newspapers Mark Schierbecker (talk) 04:42, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Digital newspapers published in the United States to Category:Online newspapers published in the United States
- Category:Digital newspapers published in the Middle East to Category:Online newspapers published in the Middle East
- Category:Digital newspapers published in Europe to Category:Online newspapers published in Europe
- Category:Digital newspapers published in Canada to Category:Online newspapers published in Canada
- Category:Digital newspapers published in Asia to Category:Online newspapers published in Asia
- Category:Digital newspapers published in Azerbaijan to Category:Online newspapers published in Azerbaijan
- Category:Digital newspapers published in Armenia to Category:Online newspapers published in Armenia
- Category:Digital newspapers published in Africa to Category:Online newspapers published in Africa
- Comment I'm not sure. Digital newspaper also exists. So maybe this shouldn't be done speedily. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- Good point. Oppose. – Fayenatic London 09:16, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
- Good point. Digital newspaper wasn't categorized under that so I missed it. Unsure whether it should be merged. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 00:57, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
- Comment I'm not sure. Digital newspaper also exists. So maybe this shouldn't be done speedily. Armbrust The Homunculus 18:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
- Category:British 5 star officers to Category:British five-star officers – C2A: WP:ORDINAL Mark Schierbecker (talk) 14:16, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
- Category:5 star officers to Category:Five-star officers – C2D: 5 star rank Mark Schierbecker (talk) 14:14, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
- Category:1 star officers to Category:One-star officers
- Category:2 star officers to Category:Two-star officers
- Category:3 star officers to Category:Three-star officers
- Category:4 star officers to Category:Four-star officers
- @Mark Schierbecker: Oppose the above 7. The main articles used the "X-star rank" format (like Five-star rank), and therefore these can only/should be renamed to "X-star rank officers" (like Category:Five-star rank officers). Armbrust The Homunculus 15:18, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
-
- Is it enough to make the moves anyway under C2A as the first two are? "X-star rank officers" seems oddly pedantic to me when normal usage like List of active duty United States four-star officers exists. Like insisting that all the "African-American [X]" categories be unhyphenated when they are compound modifiers because the main article is African American. Mark Schierbecker (talk) 04:41, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion[edit]
- Category:Former Oil and gas companies of Australia to Category:Former oil and gas companies of Australia – C2A: Although the defunct category is widely used, most Australian olil and gas companies were merged or taken over or absorbed - in other words they are not strictly defunct at all - the usage of a Capital O for oil is the reason for the need for re-naming JarrahTree 08:02, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion[edit]
- Category:Geographical, historical and cultural areas of Belgium to Category:Historical regions in Belgium – C2C to other countries in the tree of Category:Historical regions by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:23, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
-
- Oppose Belgium at the very least. Most of the categories in the list are definitively not historical (see Flemish Diamond for example), while a great many are natural regions defined based on geology and flora. This move doesn't make any sense really. Oreo Priest talk 19:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
@Oreo Priest: You're right, Belgium is one of the few countries that is lacking a Category:Regions of Belgium. Suggest to rename Category:Geographical, historical and cultural areas of Belgium to Category:Regions of Belgium instead.I'll move to full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:13, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Geographical, historical and cultural regions of France to Category:Historical regions in France
- Oppose Belgium at the very least. Most of the categories in the list are definitively not historical (see Flemish Diamond for example), while a great many are natural regions defined based on geology and flora. This move doesn't make any sense really. Oreo Priest talk 19:44, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- Full discussion at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2015_May_26#Category:Geographical.2C_historical_and_cultural_areas_of_Belgium. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:36, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
- Category:Slavic American to Category:Slavic Americans – as per main article Slavic Americans. GregKaye 06:25, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
Fayenatic london, as reference please also see discussion and closure at: Talk:Korean Americans#Requested move 11 March 2015 and, on this basis, I would also like to request a move of Category:Korean American to Category:Korean Americans on a similar basis of main article title.
A logical extension of the argument regarding article coverage would ultimately I think require article moves such as: Americans → American and British people → British
The TOC at Americans presents:
- 1 Overview
- 2 Racial and ethnic groups
- 2.1 White and European Americans
- 2.2 Hispanic and Latino Americans
- 2.3 Black and African Americans
- 2.4 Asian Americans
- 2.5 American Indians and Alaska Natives
- 2.6 Native Hawaiians and other Pacific Islanders
- 2.7 Two or more races
- 3 National personification
- 4 Language
- 5 Religion
- 6 Culture
- 7 American diaspora
The TOC at British people which presents content:
- 4 Culture
- 4.1 Cuisine
- 4.2 Language
- 4.3 Literature
- 4.4 Media and music
- 4.5 Religion
- 4.6 Sport
- 4.7 Visual art and architecture
- 4.8 Political culture
Please also see articles on topics: Austrian Canadians, Black Canadians, Czech Canadians, Indo-Canadians, Japanese Canadians, Lebanese Canadians, Nigerian Canadians, South Sudanese Canadians, Sri Lankan Canadians, Syrian Canadians, Trinidadian and Tobagonian Canadians and List of Turkish Canadians
On the basis of these main articles I would also like to request further moves as:
- Category:Arab Canadian to Category:Arab Canadians
- Category:Japanese Canadian to Category:Japanese Canadians
- Category:Sri Lankan Canadian to Category:Sri Lankan Canadians
- Category:Syrian Canadian to Category:Syrian Canadians
- Category:Trinidadian and Tobagonian Canadian to Category:Trinidadian and Tobagonian Canadians
I think that it is fair for Categories to directly represent the content of the articles that they contain so as to better enable editors to assess the various arguments in regard to article title choice. GregKaye 09:18, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks for the thought and work you have put into this. The article renaming a may be a good idea, but this is not the place to discuss them. I suggest that the categories should not be merged in the way you have suggested, but instead the top categories should be renamed with "society" at the end. At the top level, Category:Society is the parent of Category:Culture, Category:History and Category:People, so it would match this structure if Fooian American society was the parent of Fooian American culture, Fooian American history and Fooian Americans (the latter being for people). – Fayenatic London 11:04, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Ready for deletion[edit]
Check Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion for out of process deletions. In some cases, these will need to be nominated for discussion and the editor who emptied the category informed that they should follow the WP:CFD process.
Once the renaming has been completed, copy and paste the listing to the Ready for deletion section of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Manual.
Categories possibly emptied out of process[edit]
Note. Categories listed here will be automatically moved to Category:Candidates for speedy deletion after 96 hours.
Note. Due to limits of the software, all contents of the category may not be displayed. View the category directly to see all contents.
|