Talk:Shut Up and Drive (Rihanna song)

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[edit] What's True

You posted Sept. 3, 2007 as due for the release of Shut Up And Drive in UK which you credited this defjam site: http://www.defjam.co.uk/. Pertaining to that, it can be a realiable source however, some links claimed that it will be on 20th of August: http://www.newuksinglereleases.co.uk/. The latters info cant be a false one because the site has been used by many editors and credited many times. BritandBeyonce 12:36, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sample question

The guitar line in this song far more closely resembles Orgy's remake of "Blue Monday" than it does the original. Do the liner notes cite a sample? Chubbles 01:23, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

I thought that too, but it may well be just a third-party that has played it. violet/riga (t) 17:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Where Is It?

I was just wondering if where Shut Up And Drive cover had been? Lost?BritandBeyonce 09:46, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh there is it. Genuine pic? BritandBeyonce 08:54, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Umbrella obstructed this?

I thought came to me the other day. This single never really got heard of hear in the UK until Umbrella was eventually knocked off by Timbaland's The Way I Are. Could it be justifiable to say Umbrella actually prevented any media attention to this song, thus causing to fail to achieve its maximum potential? 84.69.64.35 19:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC)Ginger_Warrior

Who knows? Regardless of the answer, Wikipedia is not the place for such speculation without reliable secondary sources that say so. 17Drew 21:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Surely it was just pushed back in the UK because of Umbrella's success - it's getting significant airplay now. violet/riga (t) 22:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
As I said, speculation like this does not belong on Wikipedia. If you can find a source, then add it to the article; if there are no sources, then the discussion is irrelevant and does not belong on the talk page. 17Drew 23:03, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
Excuse me? It is relevant and does belong here. violet/riga (t) 07:38, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
No, not without a source. 17Drew 07:46, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I said here. violet/riga (t) 08:18, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Talk pages are only for discussing articles. If you're not discussing adding this to the article, then your discussion belongs somewhere else. Try a fan site or forum. 17Drew 08:25, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
I know exactly what talk pages are for and this is perfectly fine. It's discussing an aspect of the article. Now please stop with this pointless threat of removing the discussion - it's a waste of both our time. violet/riga (t) 08:37, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
So what if Umbrella caused the song to fail in some charts? That's not our problem and it's absolutely a pointless talk. Has it something to do with the page for it to expand? Why? You would stress there that the song due to the presence of Umbrella didn't reach its maximum potential? That's a mere weasel words. Cite source that says so. Thanks.BritandBeyonce 11:20, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
As was said before, this talk page is for discussing the article and its content, not for discussing the article's subject. I'll ask again that you please cease or you will begin receiving warnings and these discussions will be removed. SpigotMap 11:55, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Charts

Should the "Chart Performance" section of the article be expanded; in other words to put more information into that section. Or should it be left the way it is, to prevent what happened to articles such as "Big girls don't cry (Song)" and "Beautiful liar"? 220.101.48.181 8:23, September 21, 2007 (UTC)

Let this page be expanded but if the page runs through same fate with the songs you refered to, then it is the better time to control such thing not to happen. BritandBeyonce 11:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Why is it that in most articles the "#" is removed before chart positions; example #3 has been changed to just 3? Or #3 has been changed to "number 3/ number-three". Its just stupid. 220.101.48.181 4:23, October 8, 2007 (UTC)

Please go to this page. This would be very helpful to you. Not 3 only but *3. BritandBeyonce (talk•contribs) 07:10, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:ShutUpAndDriveVideo.jpg

Image:ShutUpAndDriveVideo.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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BetacommandBot 15:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Current?

I think it isn't a CUrrent anymore because it is #40 now

[edit] Current?

I think it isn't a CUrrent anymore because it is #40 now

If it's still on the charts it's current. SpigotMap 18:37, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Classifying Song as R&B

This is a subject that has been raised several times, but in fairness and accordance with Wikipedia policies, I'll open it again here.

Shut Up and Drive won a People Choice Award in 2007 for "Best R&B Song." While it does not fit in the traditional description of R&B, it is not our place as Wikipedians to make that distinction and refuse to recognize an R&B genre tag in the info box, in addition to the seemingly more accurate Pop Rock tag. Charmed36 and I had a rather heated debate (please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Charmed36#Shut_Up_and_Drive_2) on this very subject not even one week ago as of the date of this post. An administrator intervened and suggested that my classification of this song as an R&B record in addition to Pop Rock was accurate.

However, as I said, I don't see any harm in opening the question up for more discussion. Please leave your comments here, not my talk page. In the meantime, I would request that the R&B tag not be removed until a consensus can be reached that might suggest it necessary.

Since the song won that award, I'd say, you're definitely correct. Either is was only nominated or won, it was recognized as R&B. Also, we have no proper sourcing of genres and that one is a very good source. --Efe (talk) 08:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I've just added a template for R&B projects. I believe we're correct. --Efe (talk) 08:05, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Not R&B... Charmed36 (talk) 17:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Opinion noted. But, as it's already been established, the song does qualify for an R&B tag, per the above mentioned reasoning. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 03:28, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I stated many times. High and mighty users think they are right. Charmed36 (talk) 02:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

As I've said to you before, I am backed by facts. Specifically, "Shut Up and Drive" was nominated for and won a People's Choice Award in 2007 for Best R&B song. Therefore, under Wikipedia policy, the R&B tag is appropriate despite not fitting into the "traditional" definition of R&B, which I have conceded to you several times. Now, for the final time, I'd appreciate it if you'd review WP:CIVIL and remember it when you comment on discussions such as this. You disagree with my opinions, that's fine. You attack me, we have a problem, particularly when I have facts to back up what you're trying to revert. I'm pretty easy to deal with, most of the time, but I suppose I can come across as "high and mighty" on occasion because I deal with things pretty much straight up and without some of the sugarcoating that I see from many users around the encyclopedia. I guess what I'm saying to you, Charmed36, is that if you can source the "fact" that the song is not R&B, then feel free to remove the tag. If you can't definitively source that statement, then my tag as R&B must be allowed to stand, as supported. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 02:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Ooops! This is not good. Above comments are against WP:CIVIL. I think the nomination is a concrete source that this song also falls under R&B genre. Nowadays, its hard to judge whether a song falls under that certain genre becuase they've kinda mixed, with so many influences. --Efe (talk) 02:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I expanded my comment above to better reflect my intention, which was not to violate WP:CIVIL. My apologies. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 03:25, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry too for being vague. That comment was for Charmed36's statement: "High and mighty users think they are right." This statement is really really really bad. I think Charmed can only do is to back her claim with a reliable source. --Efe (talk) 03:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Someone explain me something

Shut up and drive's peak in UWC was at #11, then why in this page is listed with a #7? Another thing: this single sold only 2 million copies, not 3,2. Look on UWC site. So it's impossible to have that amazing sales of 3.2 million copies worldwide and a further 200,000 through clubs. 1,18 million copies in the US? The single got Platinum in US? there are too many errors on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.97.4.229 (talk) 17:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

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