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Gen. Wesley Clark Says Pentagon Had Plan in 2001 to Attack Seven Countries in Five Years

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This is an excerpt of Gen. Wesley Clark in a Democracy Now interview with Amy Goodman:

GEN. WESLEY CLARK: I knew why, because I had been through the Pentagon right after 9/11. About ten days after 9/11, I went through the Pentagon and I saw Secretary Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary Wolfowitz. I went downstairs just to say hello to some of the people on the Joint Staff who used to work for me, and one of the generals called me in. He said, "Sir, you've got to come in and talk to me a second." I said, "Well, you're too busy." He said, "No, no." He says, "We've made the decision we're going to war with Iraq." This was on or about the 20th of September. I said, "We're going to war with Iraq? Why?" He said, "I don't know." He said, "I guess they don't know what else to do." So I said, "Well, did they find some information connecting Saddam to al-Qaeda?" He said, "No, no." He says, "There's nothing new that way. They just made the decision to go to war with Iraq." He said, "I guess it's like we don't know what to do about terrorists, but we've got a good military and we can take down governments." And he said, "I guess if the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail."

So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan. I said, "Are we still going to war with Iraq?" And he said, "Oh, it's worse than that." He reached over on his desk. He picked up a piece of paper. And he said, "I just got this down from upstairs" -- meaning the Secretary of Defense's office -- "today." And he said, "This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran." I said, "Is it classified?" He said, "Yes, sir." I said, "Well, don't show it to me." And I saw him a year or so ago, and I said, "You remember that?" He said, "Sir, I didn't show you that memo! I didn't show it to you!"

AMY GOODMAN: I'm sorry. What did you say his name was?

GEN. WESLEY CLARK: I'm not going to give you his name.

AMY GOODMAN: So, go through the countries again.

GEN. WESLEY CLARK: Well, starting with Iraq, then Syria and Lebanon, then Libya, then Somalia and Sudan, and back to Iran.


Um, Thanks, General. If you run for president again, what else won't you bother to mention while supporting a war you opposed before you supported opposing?


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How in the hell could Wesley Clark keep quiet about this and let all the death and destruction and bankrupting of our country and destruction of the constitution occur until now ? What the F !

How many countries did Hitler invade, occupy, and cleanse of his common enemy in Europe?

Is this revelation anything new?

Bush's common enemy are radical Muslims.
He's stoked their fight through funding them.
And then turns around and calls them the enemy.
They pose a threat to the US because...

Like in the 1930's the Brown shirt brigade was established to underscore the threat of the Jewish citizen. Their existence threatened the good Germans, their welfare, their economy, their safety.

Echo... Echo... Echo...

Hmmm, link appears to have a problem .. try this one, kidz . . ;-)

(link to Amy Goodman's interview with Gen. Wesley Clark)

Yeah, this would have been good information a few years back, there General . . .perhaps George Carlin was right, kidz . . . maybe, just maybe . .. "MILITARY INTELLIGENCE" really IS an "oxymoron" .. ;-)

Gee, General . .. just think if you Military & Intel types would have stood with WE THE PEOPLE, . . . a.k.a. THE WHISTLE-BLOWERS who understood the concept of an "Oath To Defend The US Constitution from ALL enemies, FOREIGN and DOMESTIC" . . .back when this shit was going down, we might not be "waist deep in the big dry muddy" right now. . . and we might even still have a US Constitution and a rule of LAW in this Great Land . ..

Well, I'm sure the good General Wesley "Oh, Was That Important?" Clark, . . .like all those good MOSSAD agents in OUR Military/Intelligence Agencies/Government/Tele-Communications Industry with Dual-Citizenship . . . still has HIS home, a sustainable income, health care insurance and a pretty good quality of life . . .;-)

. . . why, like these Foreign Agents on OUR payroll, the good General probably doesn't have to sit night after night listening to HIS wife cry the tears of someone trying so hard to just make basic ends meet only to be knocked down again and again at a shitty minimum wage job . .. while trying not to think about the "good daze" when she had a home, farm and garden of her own . .. and money to buy food and clothes. . . and time and heart to work on her art.

. . . but I guess it's what MY wife deserves after wasting her youth getting a Masters Degree from the University of North Cackilacki . . . who would want to hire a person like that much less pay them a livable wage??? Certainly not OUR Wilmington CO-OP where the "executive staff" is off on yet another "beach house training reteat weekend" with a high dollar "consultant" .. . a consultant that I think after working with him couldn't spell "coop" much less tell someone how to manage one . . . but he has found his "niche" market . .. like those fine folks at the Pentagon making top dollar . . .some are even paid by TWO GOVERNMENTS . . . we call that "double-dipping" in the biz' .. . . .;-)

Yeah, General, that "little piece" of information just might have made a difference in a few lives . . . for example the +600,000 INNOCENT Iraqis and the +3000 US Military that have died so far . .. and the generations that will suffer untold horrors due to the use of illegal Depleted Uranium weapons on a CIVILIAN POPULATION. ..

Not to mention the "gawd only knows" how many thousands of "disappeared" men, women, and children that face having their minds destroyed and their bodies broken by TORTURE in secret prisons . . . and not so secret prisons .. . around the world . . . Could there POSSIBLY be any more diabolical CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY than deliberately driving a fellow human being INSANE. GENERAL Wesley Clark?????

. . . but your "Ethics" Grown-Ups are quite right, I guess . . . It didn't make the 10 Commandments, so technically it isn't against, "The Law" . . .;-)

You know, "Ethics" Grown-Ups . . .folks like Albert "No Habeus Corpus" Gonzales and John "Tortue Legal, Miss Condi" Yoo . ..

But you good Grown-Ups at the Pentagon, the CIA, the NSA, and the new HOMELAND "We Really Mean Promised Land" SECURITY just go right on playing Sgt. Shultz from Hogan's Heroes . . . "WE SEE NOTHING!!!!" . ..

. . . after all, Col. Ollie "Drugs for Gunz" North would have wanted it that way, kidz . .. ;-)

"SA-LUTE!!!!" .. . to GENERAL WESLEY "Oh, Was That Important?" CLARK from this ol' yippie fool in North Cackilacki. . .;-)

"Well, I'm not going to point any moral;
I'll leave that for yourself
Maybe you're still walking, you're still talking
You'd like to keep your health.
But every time I read the papers
That old feeling comes on;
We're -- waist deep in the Big Muddy
And the big fool says to push on."
- Waist Deep In the Big Muddy by Pete Seeger


Good God Almighty! What evil lurks in our nation's Pentagon? Is our Pentagon totally infested and controlled by anti-American NeoCONS? Are Pentagon personnel totally oblivious and untrained in Constitutional matters of national concern to the American people? Why did so many Pentagon personnel defer to traitors and keep the traitors' secrets? WHY THIS "HAT IN HAND" ATTITUDE TOWARDS TREASONOUS RATS? How did the traitors get in charge of the Pentagon ? Were Pentagon personnel all scared or unaware of their Whistleblower options, or both? What exactly ARE Pentagon personnel's options when they witness traitors in action, and do Whistleblowers know their rights? DO WHISTLEBLOWERS HAVE ANY RIGHTS? This is a damn gigantic revelation of monumental proportions, Mr Clark! I am speechless about your timing... that is between you , your family and God . It must've been an indescribable burden. WHERE THE HELL WAS THE PRESS???


We keep talking about what Bush, Cheney , and what the people involved in this deception did, how about what the republican administration didn't do with their constitutional duties to stop them.
We now have a democrat majority in the House and of course the Senate is still able to stop actions of the democrats.
But I don't see any movement that will do anything now or in the future to stop these manics that are not only destroying our country , but the whole world.
What it will take is every one of the American citizen that believe we need a change now, to not just ask what they can do for country, BUT, to do it, repeatedly and offend.
If one can't see by now that the whole da.. government officials are not going to do anything, then they are blind. America is being sacrificed by our government official for the power , wealth and control of Global Corporations. There should be an overwhelming demand to get rid of EVERYONE connected to this gross misconduct , lies , deceit and corruption involved not only in the war but in every corrupted policy that this administration has done (look at Katrina, torture, Hospital neglect of our wounded soldiers , the list is to long to post).
How can one believe or except this type of government and the BS they are spreading. We know that the news media is controlled and will say nothing , it has been proved by what they with held before and are continually with holding. They talk about other countries and their corruption , well our is now at the top of the list.
Next thing you will do is call the decider the dic,,,,,,

How could he remain silent for so long. His silence makes him 100% complicit. So many have been killed and he did nothing!!! He is fully accountable since he watched and did Nothing!! That is atrocious behavior!!!!!!!

Even though he kept silent about it, it's not like Clark had the power to do anything about it, try turning your ire on the elected reps who are supposed to stand up for the american people. More than a majority have turned against this war months ago, why aren't any of you upset that a democratic congress refuses to put impeachment of the bush war criminals on the table when they allowed the republic party to impeach a president on a personal matter where no one died. This is a tragedy of epic proportions, it's easy to blame someone who had NO power to do anything about it. Congress does!

This shows that he knew MORE than Congress...but he seems not to have acted.

Is it possible that Clark is LYING about the seven war memo?

If it really existed, and really reflected the policy of the Bush administration, wouldn't there have been massive planning going on at all levels of the executive branch? Wouldn't at least ONE of the countless leakers over the past few years have told us this already? And obviously, Bush didn't follow this plan, since it's been five and a half years, and only two wars have happened. When did he abandon it? He didn't invade Iraq until 2003. Was he really planning on having six more wars in the three years after that? And like you have all pointed out, why didn't General Clark come forward sooner? I have the same question about Joe Wilson - he waited for six months after Bush's 16 words, and three months after the invasion of Iraq, to break his silence.

It seems much more likely to me that Clark is doing what political has-beens typically do to try to win back support: make outrageous stuff up. Remember, this is the same Wesley Clark who said he got a call from the White House after 9/11 telling him to go on TV and say Iraq was behind the bombings - which I doubt, since no one else in the Bush administration made the same claim at the time.

Some more questions:

- Why the heck would we "take out" Lebabon? It was an occupied territory of Syria at the time. That's like saying, "OK, first we're going to invade Israel, and after that, we'll take on the West Bank!"

- Somalia? Why would we go to war with Somalia? They haven't had a government since the early 90s, they could hardly be called a state sponsor of terrorism. I don't THINK there's any oil there...

- The decision to go to war with Iraq was already made on September 20? By who? At what meeting? That would totally erase everything we know about the planning of the Iraq War and the Afghanistan War from Bob Woodward, the 9/11 Commission, and others.

The whole story just smells to me...

I've heard Wes Clark tell that story several times over the past few years.

...and almost barfed!!!!! HOW can Clark admit to such abominable behavior? He knew about this "10 days after 9/11" and this is the FIRST TIME he came forth with the information! (..and I used to want him for Pres!) When you HIDE a LIE you are JUST AS GUILTY as the Liar. The long arm of Corporate Power has a mighty fist on it, and it looks like ALL politicians are afraid >:-(

There IS one way to force Congress to hear We The People... a NONVIOLENT threat to STRIKE ACROSS AMERICA if they continue to fund BushCo Wars and refuse to impeach the &*%$#'s.

It is imperative that ALL groups UNITE. PLEASE Join Ask your fellow activists & groups to sign this Pledge-To-Strike! Send reps from ALL our Groups to show Congress WE DEMAND the REPRESENTATION of WE the PEOPLE!

all for israel

YOU MISSED IT when Wes Clark FIRST started blowing the cover off PNAC back in 2002-2003, and now somehow he's responsible for withholding information becase you had your fingers in your ears? (He wrote about this in his book that was published in 2004--wipe the egg off your face now. The information has been out there for a LONG time.)

This was a big part of why he was supported as a candidate in 2004 by people who were paying attention--because he was the only one with the creds and courage to stand up to the cabal, while other Democrats were changing the subject and trying to make the election about the economy. Clark was challenging them head on, and people weren't listening, because they had other priorities!

Now, I'm glad that his interview with Amy Goodman has apparently introduced this information to another segment of the population for the first time--better late than never? But it's unfortunate that your anger is misdirected and you're not seeing things for what they are. Derailing the PNAC train isn't possible when people don't recognize their strongest allies and label them as enemies.

I hope you won't be as many years behind the curve in seeing the next phase coming--when someone of Clark's stature (and with Clark's inside information) undertakes a campaign to warn the country that we're in imminent danger of this war going regional with an attack on Iran, smart people pay heed and tell their friends, and start SCREAMING to their reps in DC to grow a spine and oppose this policy. Because arguing about troop levels in Iraq and timelines for cutting the funding and bringing the troops home misses the mark--IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AS LONG AS US POLICY REMAINS ON ITS PRESENT COURSE.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

though he was a competent commander in the Balkan's during that war, he never ceased protecting his own retirement check. In his last run for President, he never intended to win that, even though he had a decent shot at it. He took money from idiots like myself who were stupid enough to believe he had a soul. He has no soul, he has no balls, guts, and for that matter, HONOR.

so, when you see this opportunist son of a bitch riding the neocon bastards, cover your hiney in front of him for he would gladly use your culo for a receptacle for his Bush'esq pleasures as you'd just be a Guckert stand in in his White House.

amazing how Clark always comes up with real answers when he clearly is out of the line of fire, and no longer in danger of pissing of the same fascist bastards who sign his fucking retirement checks.

I have no use for any military member who, in deference to their retirement bennies, will sell out their soldiers and their troops, and in Wes Clark's case, the nation full of 'idiots' like me who once thought him to be the real deal. He's no more real than Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, or Pluto. He's a fucking opportunist liar, self-serving, treasonous asshole.

because he has an agenda, period. why else would he bother bringing it up now? and why won't he mention the generals name?

it's all bullshit designed to keep you and everyone else playing their game, that's all.

bush and cheney will not be impeached. the war in iraq will not stop. the troops aren't coming home. the war really was about the oil, as we all expected.

the war in iraq was all about the oil, that is, but you must understand that the war is not designed to be won or lost. it is designed to be never-ending--- continuous. remember what they said: the war that will not end in our lifetimes. they weren't kidding. there wasn't any terrorism in iraq until the US showed up; there was only a country with a tyrant. there are countries with tyrants all over the globe. why isn't the US invading them? do they have any oil? iraq didn't have the sectarian strife that is happening today. that didn't get going until we got there.

everything that has happened since 2000 ((or even farther back)) is a part of the neocon gameplan to plunder everything in their path, including whatever you have that isn't nailed down. if you have stuff that has monetary value, they want it. they're coming for it, too.

the war is meant to be kept in motion. that in turn will keep our society shaped the way it is, and that in turn will keep you and everyone else in fear and on the verge of starvation, in debt up to your ears, enslaved to a monetary system, all for the benefit of very few. the constant warfare is meant to be continuous so that the fat cats-- the upper 1%-- continue to be fat cats at the top. they don't give a damn about you or your family. their plan is to CRASH this country. it's already happening. the 'divide-and-conquer' strategy works very well for them. these people have been doing this for hundreds or thousands of years... lying, killing... is this what a government is really for???

Just because no one was listening to him, is no reason for you to suggest that Clark is in any way responsible for you being uninformed. He wrote about this in his book "Winning Modern Wars," written in March, 2003.

He also discussed with Tim Russert on MTP in November, 2004:
MR. RUSSERT: In your book, “Winning Modern Wars,” you write on page 130, the following: “As I went back through the Pentagon”—”November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed” in “part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries,

beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia”—”Sudan. So, I thought, this is what they” meant “when they talk about ‘draining the swamp.’”...

Gen. Clark is the first person you see when you scroll down...
Here the link:

Below is an exceprt that appears next to his picture.

Video interview ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos 3/5/06: "I think when you look at this country, right now, we need a 2-party system that works. We need Congress to do its job. We need real investigation of some of the abuses of authority that are apparently going on at the Executive branch. ... We've never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I've seen that for a long time

Wesley Clark, without any doubts, beside being a stupid Jew-Hater, and Nazi sympatizer, is traitor of the US and sellout to the Arabs like are the French Party of the former President Jacques Chirac who was born one year before Hitler came to power and grew up under influence of German Nazis in a occupied by Germany France and was on Saddam Khussein's payroll for decades and blessed Iraq's program of WMD.

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