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The Obama Doctrine
Barack Obama is offering the most sweeping liberal foreign-policy critique we've heard from a serious presidential contender in decades. But will voters buy it?

When Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama met in California for the Jan. 31 debate, their back-and-forth resembled their many previous encounters, with the Democratic presidential hopefuls scrambling for the small policy yardage between them. And then Obama said something about the Iraq War that wasn't incremental at all. "I don't want to just end the war," he said, "but I want to end the mind-set that got us into war in the first place."

Until this point in the primaries, Clinton and Obama had sounded very similar on this issue. Despite their differences in the past (Obama opposed the war, while Clinton voted for it), both were calling for major troop withdrawals, with some residual force left behind to hedge against catastrophe. But Obama's concise declaration of intent at the debate upended this assumption. Clinton stumbled to find a counterargument, eventually saying her vote in October 2002 "was not authority for a pre-emptive war." Then she questioned Obama's ability to lead, saying that the Democratic nominee must have "the necessary credentials and gravitas for commander in chief."

If Clinton's response on Iraq sounds familiar, that's because it's structurally identical to the defensive crouch John Kerry assumed in 2004: Voting against the war wasn't a mistake; the mistakes were all George W. Bush's, and bringing the war to a responsible conclusion requires a wise man or woman with military credibility. In that debate, Obama offered an alternative path. Ending the war is only the first step. After we're out of Iraq, a corrosive mind-set will still be infecting the foreign-policy establishment and the body politic. That rot must be eliminated.

Obama is offering the most sweeping liberal foreign-policy critique we've heard from a serious presidential contender in decades. It cuts to the heart of traditional Democratic timidity. "It's time to reject the counsel that says the American people would rather have someone who is strong and wrong than someone who is weak and right," Obama said in a January speech. "It's time to say that we are the party that is going to be strong and right." (The Democrat who counseled that Americans wanted someone strong and wrong, not weak and right? That was Bill Clinton in 2002.)

But to understand what Obama is proposing, it's important to ask: What, exactly, is the mind-set that led to the war? What will it mean to end it? And what will take its place?

To answer these questions, I spoke at length with Obama's foreign-policy brain trust, the advisers who will craft and implement a new global strategy if he wins the nomination and the general election. They envision a doctrine that first ends the politics of fear and then moves beyond a hollow, sloganeering "democracy promotion" agenda in favor of "dignity promotion," to fix the conditions of misery that breed anti-Americanism and prevent liberty, justice, and prosperity from taking root. An inextricable part of that doctrine is a relentless and thorough destruction of al-Qaeda. Is this hawkish? Is this dovish? It's both and neither -- an overhaul not just of our foreign policy but of how we think about foreign policy. And it might just be the future of American global leadership.

***

When considering any presidential hopeful's foreign-policy promises, it's important to remember that what candidates say is, at best, an imperfect guide to their actions in office. What proves to be a more reliable indicator of presidential behavior is a candidate's roster of advisers. (If the press had paid better attention, the country would have seen through Bush's pitch about a humble foreign policy and realized that many of his advisers, including Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle, were conspiracy-minded warmongers.) Obama's foreign-policy advisers come from diverse backgrounds. They are former aides to Democratic mandarins like Tom Daschle and Lee Hamilton (Denis McDonough and Ben Rhodes, respectively); veterans of the Clinton administration's left flank (Tony Lake and Susan Rice); a human-rights advocate who helped write the Army's and Marine Corps' much-lauded counterinsurgency field manual (Sarah Sewall); a retired general who helped run the air war during the invasion of Iraq (Scott Gration); and a former journalist who revolutionized the study of U.S. foreign policy (Samantha Power). Yet they form a committed, intellectually coherent, and surprisingly united foreign-affairs team. (Shortly before this piece went to press, Power resigned from the campaign after making an intemperate remark to a reporter.)

They also share a formative experience with each other and with Obama. Each opposed the Iraq War at a time when doing so was derided by their colleagues, by journalists, and by the foreign-policy establishment. Each did so because they understood that the invasion and occupation ran counter to the goal of destroying al-Qaeda. And each bore the frustration of endless lectures on their lack of so-called seriousness from those who suffered from strategic myopia.

"There is a popular notion that Democrats have to try to appear like Republicans to pass some test on national security. The fact that that's still the case after Iraq is absurd," says one of Obama's closest advisers. "So you break from that orthodoxy and say 'I don't care if the Republicans attack me because I'm willing to meet with the leadership in Iran. We haven't for 25 years, and it's not gotten us anywhere.'"

Most of the members of Obama's foreign-policy team expressed frustration that they had taken a well-considered and seemingly anodyne position on Iraq and suffered for it. Obama had something similar happen to him in the spring and summer of 2007. He was attacked from the left and the right for saying three things that should not have been controversial: that if he had actionable intelligence on the whereabouts of al-Qaeda's leadership in Pakistan but no cooperation from the Pakistani government, he would take out the jihadists; that he wouldn't use nuclear weapons on terrorist training camps; and that he would be willing to meet with leaders of rogue states in his first year as president. "No one [of Obama's critics] had thought through the policy because that was the quote-unquote naïve and weak position, so they said it was a bad position to take," recalls Ben Rhodes, the adviser who writes Obama's foreign-policy speeches. "And it was a seminal moment, because Obama himself said, 'No, I'm right about this!'"

Instead of backing down, Obama asked his foreign-policy team to double down. Rhodes wrote a speech that Obama delivered at DePaul University on Oct. 2, which criticized the boundaries of acceptable discourse set by the same establishment that backed the war. "This election is about ending the Iraq War, but even more it's about moving beyond it. And we're not going to be safe in a world of unconventional threats with the same old conventional thinking that got us into Iraq," Obama said. One of his advisers, recalling the fallout from Obama's comments about pursuing al-Qaeda in Pakistan, says, "He takes policy positions that are a break from both rigid orthodoxy and the Bush administration. And everyone says it's a gaffe! That just encapsulates everything that's wrong about the foreign-policy debate in Washington and in Democratic politics."

The Obama foreign-policy team describes it as "the politics of fear," a phrase most advisers used unprompted in our conversations. "For a long time we've not seen much creative thinking from Dems on national security, because, out of fear, we want to be a little different from the Republicans but not too different, out of fear of being labeled weak or indecisive," another top adviser says. Identifying that fear as the accelerant of the Iraq War mind-set is the first step to a new and innovative foreign policy. John Kerry was not able to argue for fundamental change in foreign policy because he was consumed by that very political fear. Obama's admonition to Democrats is much like Pope John Paul II's to the Gdansk shipyard strikers -- first, be not afraid.

***

Like Obama, his defense advisers have supplemented their American views with the perspectives of outsiders. Gen. Scott Gration, a retired Air Force jet pilot, says hello to me over the phone in Swahili. He learned about the crushing misery of the world's poor by growing up in Congo, where his parents were missionaries. After the violence following Congolese independence in 1960, Gration had an experience few Americans ever will: He became a refugee. "We lost everything we owned, and what we took with us, they confiscated," he remembers.

Sarah Sewall, a Harvard professor and another of Obama's closest advisers, also knows about stepping outside of her comfort zone. A longtime human-rights advocate with the disarmament organization, the Council for a Livable World, Sewall found herself in 2005 and 2006 with an unlikely partner: Gen. David Petraeus. He and two colleagues were rewriting the Army and Marine field manual for counterinsurgency and wanted Sewall's input on how to create a more just, humane, and successful doctrine. For agreeing to help, she was attacked by some on the left. "Should a human-rights center at the nation's most prestigious university be collaborating with the top U.S. general in Iraq in designing the counterinsurgency doctrine behind the current military surge?" Tom Hayden wrote online in The Huffington Post.

Sewall's involvement may have lost her some influence within the academic left, but she has become a hero to the military's growing circle of counterinsurgency theorist-practitioners. "Her impact on the thinking about the war and the conduct of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has been significant and not without cost," says Army Lt. Col. John Nagl, one of the counterinsurgency community's luminaries. "She has shown, in my eyes, great moral courage. I think Senator Obama is listening to someone who has thought long and hard about the use of force and who understands the kinds of wars we're fighting today."

This ability to see the world from different perspectives informs what the Obama team hopes will replace the Iraq War mind-set: something they call dignity promotion. "I don't think anyone in the foreign-policy community has as much an appreciation of the value of dignity as Obama does," says Samantha Power, a former key aide and author of the groundbreaking study of U.S. foreign policy and genocide, A Problem From Hell. "Dignity is a way to unite a lot of different strands [of foreign-policy thinking]," she says. "If you start with that, it explains why it's not enough to spend $3 billion on refugee camps in Darfur, because the way those people are living is not the way they want to live. It's not a human way to live. It's graceless -- an affront to your sense of dignity."

During Bush's second term, a strange disconnect has arisen in liberal foreign-policy circles in response to the president's so-called "freedom agenda." Some liberals, like Matthew Yglesias in his book Heads In The Sand, note the insincerity of the administration's stated goal of exporting democracy. Bush, they observe, only targets for democratization countries that challenge American hegemony. Other liberal foreign-policy types, such as Thomas Carothers and Marina Ottaway of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, insist the administration is sincere but too focused on elections without supporting the civil-society institutions that sustain democracy. Still others, like Kenneth Roth of Human Rights Watch, contend that a focus on democracy in the developing world without privileging the protection of civil and political rights is a recipe for a dangerous illiberalism.

What's typically neglected in these arguments is the simple insight that democracy does not fill stomachs, alleviate malaria, or protect neighborhoods from marauding bands of militiamen. Democracy, in other words, is valuable to people insofar as it allows them first to meet their basic needs. It is much harder to provide that sense of dignity than to hold an election in Baghdad or Gaza and declare oneself shocked when illiberal forces triumph. "Look at why the baddies win these elections," Power says. "It's because [populations are] living in climates of fear." U.S. policy, she continues, should be "about meeting people where they're at. Their fears of going hungry, or of the thug on the street. That's the swamp that needs draining. If we're to compete with extremism, we have to be able to provide these things that we're not [providing]."

This is why, Obama's advisers argue, national security depends in large part on dignity promotion. Without it, the U.S. will never be able to destroy al-Qaeda. Extremists will forever be able to demagogue conditions of misery, making continued U.S. involvement in asymmetric warfare an increasingly counterproductive exercise -- because killing one terrorist creates five more in his place. "It's about attacking pools of potential terrorism around the globe," Gration says. "Look at Africa, with 900 million people, half of whom are under 18. I'm concerned that unless you start creating jobs and livelihoods we will have real big problems on our hands in ten to fifteen years."

Obama sees this as more than a global charity program; it is the anvil against which he can bring down the hammer on al-Qaeda. "He took many of the [counterinsurgency] principles -- the paradoxes, like how sometimes you're less secure the more force is used -- and looked at it from a more strategic perspective," Sewall says. "His policies deal with root causes but do not misconstrue root causes as a simple fix. He recognizes that you need to pursue a parallel anti-terrorism [course] in its traditional form along with this transformed approach to foreign policy." Not for nothing has Obama received private advice or public support from experts like former Clinton and Bush counterterrorism advisers Richard Clarke and Rand Beers, and John Brennan, the first chief of the National Counterterrorism Center.

The Obama foreign-affairs brain trust balks at the suggestion that what it's proposing is radical. "He said we'd take out al-Qaeda's senior leadership in the Pakistani tribal areas if Pakistan will not. That's not, to me, a revolutionary policy," Rhodes says. "Watching him get attacked on the right is absurd. You've got guys who argued for a massive invasion and occupation of a country that had nothing to do with 9-11 criticizing him for advocating the use of highly targeted force to kill Osama bin Laden!"

Rhodes is referring, of course, to John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, who recently asked of Obama, "Will we risk the confused leadership of an inexperienced candidate who once suggested invading our ally, Pakistan?" It's no secret that McCain, a war hero who is to the right of Bush when it comes to Iraq, hopes to make this a foreign-policy election. Conventional wisdom holds this would give him an advantage over Obama. A Feb. 28 Pew Research Center poll found 43 percent of respondents believe Obama is "not tough enough" on foreign policy. Thirty-nine percent believe Obama's foreign policy is "just right," while 47 percent say the same of McCain.

Even so, Obama's foreign-policy advisers are thrilled at the prospect of facing McCain. Had the GOP nomination gone to Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee, politicians who don't particularly care about foreign policy, an Obama victory would not provide a mandate for the sweeping foreign-affairs overhaul his campaign proposes. November's election could be, for the first time in a very long time, a choice between two radically different visions of U.S. global engagement. "We want to have this debate with John McCain," a close Obama adviser says. "[Obama] will offer this clear contrast."

Susan Rice, an assistant secretary of state in the Clinton administration and one of the few foreign-policy-establishment luminaries to sign on with Obama, explains what's at stake: "After eight years of George Bush, when the next president puts his or her hand on the Bible to be sworn in, the U.S. is going to get one brief second look [from the world] about whether the U.S. truly learned to change from its past mistakes, recent and historic, and whether we're again the kind of America people look to lead in a constructive fashion, or whether we're hopeless. In my opinion, they'll look at McCain and decide we're trapped in our old mistakes."

Of course, it remains to be seen how voters might look at an Obama-McCain race. "The important distinction will be, does Obama come across as saying he wants to make a break with the foreign policy of the last seven years, or does it sound like he'll take foreign policy in a fundamentally different direction than that of the last twenty, thirty, fifty years?" says Guy Molyneux, a Democratic pollster with Peter D. Hart Associates. Americans are eager to put the Bush doctrine behind them, Molyneux says, but there's a danger that voters will see Obama as a "young guy who's less experienced but sounds like he's taking off in a new direction."

***

In his focus on the importance of dignity in our policy toward the developing world, Obama sounds quite a bit like John F. Kennedy, who knitted together an argument for engagement with the "non-aligned" world and began the tradition of development assistance as a foreign-policy goal. However, Kennedy's basic foreign policy continued along the Cold War lines that had been laid down during the Truman administration.

Democratic presidential candidates since Kennedy have either downplayed foreign policy or simply argued for more competence in its execution, with two major exceptions: George McGovern in 1972 and Jimmy Carter in 1976. In the popular imagination, based on the "Come home, America" line from his nomination acceptance speech, McGovern pivoted from a striking critique of the immorality of the Vietnam War to an indictment of U.S. involvement abroad. But McGovern purposefully left this broad criticism out of most of his campaign. "I concentrated on Vietnam," McGovern says in a phone interview, "because I thought it would be difficult to sell a comprehensive rewriting of American foreign policy." Carter is a more ambiguous case. In the wake of Watergate, he made a full-spectrum argument against the Washington establishment. Rethinking foreign policy was a part of that, and his aide Hamilton Jordan remarked, "If, after the inauguration, you find Cy Vance as secretary of state and Zbigniew Brzezinski as head of national security, then I would say we failed." Both men, of course, received precisely those posts.

Obama is doing something braver with foreign policy than McGovern or Carter. Much, of course, could go wrong. Right-wing demagogues are already implying Obama is a Muslim terrorist. Conservatives are using Obama's argument about the inextricability of international prosperity and U.S. national security to portray him as a "post-American globalist." Jewish right-wingers in the U.S. have begun a smear campaign not just about Obama, but also about Power, as writers for Commentary and National Review have baselessly implied that she is an anti-Semite. Expect more of this for the duration of the primary season, and, if Obama wins, beyond.

If he wins in the general election, he will face a crush of foreign-policy problems so enormous that they risk overwhelming even the most competent, experienced national-security team. Iraq is, of course, a nightmare, and al-Qaeda is not just sitting still in its Pakistani safe haven. To propose rebooting U.S. foreign policy now is, to say the least, ambitious. Many military leaders consider Obama an unknown quantity. At a recent talk, Washington Post correspondent Thomas Ricks said that officers and soldiers serving in Iraq thought that McCain and Clinton would both pursue a foreign-policy commensurate with Bush's, but Obama left them puzzled. Once in office, Obama might feel compelled to turn his back on the critique he makes on the trail.

But while the doubts about Obama contain fair points, they also, to a certain degree, reflect a triumph of the Iraq War mind-set. Why not demand the destruction of al-Qaeda? Why not pursue the enlightened global leadership promised by liberal internationalism? Why not abandon fear? What is it we have to fear, exactly?

"He goes back to Roosevelt," Power says. "Freedom from fear and freedom from want. What if we actually offered that? What if we delivered that in the developing world? That would be a transformative agenda for us." The end of the Iraq War mind-set, it turns out, may be the beginning of America's reacquaintance with its best traditions.

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quote: If he wins in the general election, he will face a crush of foreign-policy problems so enormous that they risk overwhelming even the most competent, experienced national-security team.

I DONT BELIEVE THIS WILL BE THE CASE. WHAT HAS CONDOLEEZA RICE ACCOMPLISHED? SHE IS A ONE MAN (PERSON) TRAVELING SHOW AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

IT IS POLITICALLY INCORRECT TO SAY THIS BUT THIS IS REALITY: MIDDLE EAST LEADERS ARE BEMUSED BY DR. RICE BUT DO NOT TAKE A WOMAN SERIOUSLY. I'M SORRY, BUT THIS IS JUST THE REALITY OF THE CULTURE. PLUS, SHE FLAILS ALONE WITH NO EFFECTIVE SUPPORT FROM BUSH OR CHENEY.


Posted by: American thru and thru | Mar 24, 2008 2:45:58 AM

If Obama starts a real discusssion that causes us to reflect deeply on what our "strategic interests" really are, it really doesn't matter whether he wins in November: he will have exposed an American foreign policy that benefits the economic interests of multinationals who expect U. S. military expenditures to keep their costs of business at a mininmum - and for someone other than their execs and shareholders to pay for.


I hope he wins in November so we can start to do something about our comprehensive posture on the world stage than have McCain win and paper over the issues until it becomes painfully clear to the entire globe that our military in active use is less potent (and therefore less to fearful of) than our military in ready reserve posture -- that is if we haven't already reached that point.


Posted by: Odquest | Mar 24, 2008 10:35:29 AM

It's not a matter of whether the "voters will buy it"...it's a matter of whether he can accomplish it. The answer to both is 'no'. The world will begin to respect us again if we put our own house in order. Why should they follow a country whose economy is in the dumps, its people suffer from lack of health care, it owes a ton of money to China and others, it has a huge deficit, it elected a man who jumps into the wrong war, it does not take care of the veterans who fight in these wars, its energy program is non-existent, it global warming program is non-existent and so on and so on. Why should anybody look to us as a role model. Because of the Bush administration, our country looks like a bunch of babbling idiots. It's embarrassing. Senator Obama does not have the experience to deal with the myriad number of issues facing us. He credentials are so thin...they could be called cadaverous.

Posted by: Louise | Mar 24, 2008 11:20:59 AM

It's interesting that members of the military have given far more, in huge numbers, to Sen. Obama than to either Sen. Clinton or Sen. McCain. You think that tells us anything about who they want elected?

Posted by: Molly Weasley | Mar 24, 2008 11:40:35 AM

I think if "dignity doctrine" is to have weight, it's also going to need shape - the things that Rice and Power describe here make nice philosophy, but don't really point to clear, actionable policy; Darfur, of course, rightly troubles almost everyone. What to do about it, though, is far, far less clear, and previous recent axamples of genocide do not argue well for either money or military might as a solution when faced with extermination plans in the midst of a Civil War. Obama would be a breath of fresh air if, simply, he showed that diplomacy, over violence, was preferable; if he pursued diplomatic solutions first, and kept the military options only as a last, regrettable step. But I also think that all three candidates, McCain included, value diplomacy more than the current administration. If Obama's got a brethtaking, daring new doctrine, he'd do well to spell it out in advance; without getting the public on board, with clear, sepcific details, it's unlikely something like a "diginity dcotrine" can really take hold, as much as anyone may wish it so... and no matter how keenly the military appears to want Obama over others.

Posted by: weboy | Mar 24, 2008 12:35:09 PM

Why doesn't Samantha Powers just shut up until after the election? She has already hurt Obama with her self promotion. Let Obama do the talking; he's good at it, she's not.

Posted by: henry | Mar 24, 2008 12:41:55 PM

"If Clinton's response on Iraq sounds familiar, that's because it's structurally identical to the defensive crouch John Kerry assumed in 2004: Voting against the war wasn't a mistake; the mistakes were all George W. Bush's,"

Typo, I think "Voting _for_ the war wasn't a mistake...".

Interesting article. But it would be nice to have some practical specifics. Posturing aside, how will the US help alleviate fear in the world without falling into the usual traps. International development aid has an extraordinarily poor record, and US backing will justifiably attract enormous skepticism and suspicion.


Posted by: faux facsimile | Mar 24, 2008 1:01:48 PM

Thank you Spencer for providing this excellent overview of Senator Obama's foreign policy philosophy, which has been lacking in the greater public discourse. You are right in that academic presidential studies demonstrate what candidates debate and plan on facing during an election gets turned on its head by reality once they enter office. That being said, the candidiate's philosophy matters on how they'll deal with those new situations... banging your head against the wall over and over again changes nothing, even if it's a new person, but the same old wall.

I would appreciate this same kind of critique regarding Senator Clinton's team.


Posted by: Jason | Mar 24, 2008 1:24:00 PM

"Posturing aside, how will the US help alleviate fear in the world without falling into the usual traps. International development aid has an extraordinarily poor record, and US backing will justifiably attract enormous skepticism and suspicion."

International has a "poor record" in part because it has been placed at cross purposes to multinational short term profit extraction -- and by extension our military projection -- far too often. Even so, the entire State Department budget is less than $40 billion dollars, a paltry sum compared to the Pentagon's budget. We purchase 50% of the entire planet's military expenditures, and it doesn't seem to be a good "return on investment" of the nation's capital resources. Cultivating mutually desirable economic and cultural exchanges in places BEFORE they become hot spots seems like be a better ROA.


Posted by: Odquest | Mar 24, 2008 1:35:59 PM

It strikes me that one of the obstacles Obama is facing is that his ideas are transformative. He is asking us all to take a different look at the world and our policies about the use of force in the world. Much as we hate the old rhetoric, it is hard to believe that anything different can really replace the status quo. That is why people like me who haven't been able to listen to a presidential candidate, much less any of our recent presidents, is invigorated by Obama, He is a problem-solver not a not just the product of slogans. I believe he can do what he says. He does not say he can change the world, but that there are a host of more effective ways to deal with a changing world.

Posted by: Judy | Mar 24, 2008 1:43:22 PM

One of the practical policy out-comes of this philosophy is the large investment in pro-American "safe" houses in Africa in the Middle East, kind of like the US's answer to the Hamas-run schools in Palestine. Access to internet, international western TV, food, good schools that aren't steeped in radical Islam, etc etc. I think the team called them (awkwardly) "America Houses" or some such thing, but the idea is fantastic, regardless of what they're called

Realizing that the war on terror is, at its base, a propaganda battle, and one where our deeds have to back-up our words is I think the central insight here. This goes hand-in-hand with Obama, e.g., calling for aid to Pakistan not just militarily but in building western-style schools



Posted by: Michael | Mar 24, 2008 2:07:05 PM

If you want to know what Obama thinks about an issue, just look up what Clinton has said or written, and picture Obama saying, as he does in the debates, "Yeah, what she said."

Posted by: Kris | Mar 24, 2008 2:16:46 PM

I thought this would actually explain something. It doesn't. More glossed over "liberal" failures. That is what we are being asked to accept from this piece and from Obama.

Ain't buying it.


Posted by: SteveIL | Mar 24, 2008 2:30:58 PM

Great article, Spencer. I guess we'll see about how much sanity the American people are ready to handle.

Posted by: How Insane Is John McCain? | Mar 24, 2008 2:38:36 PM

Greed and fear have long been the great manipulators of voters. And al Qaida's leaders know this. If they view it in their interest to keep US foreign policy in blunder mode, some attack on the US - even a small one - would help get McCain elected. That's useful for their recruiting, as it has been under Bush.

So while the dignity agenda sounds great to me, I don't think it can carry the heft of the argument to the voters unless it's beefed up with verbiage that appeals to greed or fear.

As others have said, Obama can carry the messaging bettter than his team and I look forward to the general election to see how he phrases things.

Dignity doesn't sound like a tough enough weapon rhetorically, so I'll be interested to hear how that aim evolves to one that has greater visceral appeal.


Posted by: Kevin Hayden | Mar 24, 2008 3:26:39 PM

Excellent article. It would be wonderful for an Obama administration to transform US foreign policy.

Of course there are other things to be done as well, and it is indeed true that a country with a high infant mortality rate, unaffordable health care (closely related, those 2), teeming prisons, the death penalty, crumbling infrastructure, widening wealth gap, government support for torture, etc, is not exactly occupying the moral high ground.


Posted by: Anne Williams | Mar 24, 2008 3:44:00 PM

Rhetorically, 'dignity' may not seem like a very powerful tool... however, on the facts this foreign policy philosophy is spot on correct.

Communicating it may be problematic. The question is really how to overcome the confirmation bias or too many Americans who instinctively read 'weak' or 'naive' into any foreign policy statements coming out of a Democrat's mouth. I am very curious what Obama (and his advisers) rhetorical strategy will be in for the general... 'dignity' won't cut it in a sound-bite media climate I'm afraid.

The current Iraq 'counterinsurgency' strategy connection is very interesting, enlightening, and damn useful for the general election, since the change in strategy among commanders on the ground there is the one aspect of the 'surge' which is actually having good effects... though it is sadly not being matched by a complimentary political strategy.





Posted by: travc | Mar 24, 2008 6:06:31 PM

I really wonder if you have any idea how O-bomb-a really voted. He voted FOR the extension of the Patriot Act. He voted FOR EVERY INCREASE in war/occupation funding of the Puppet Residency of the SImian in the WH. He voted FOR the creditcard industry crafted Bankruptcy Reform Act, before he voted against it.

And due to Canadian leak, now infamous Obomba's chief economics adviser, Austan Goolsby, is a graduate of THE U of Chicago School of bullsh*t, fake "freemarket" Economics, in the vein of pro-bigBiz, pro-bigGovt, pro-military industrial complex, interventionist, protectionist, ala "ShockDoctrine Capitalism" of the type that the the current batch of PNAC-neoCON warmongers Irving and Bill Kristol have been advocating. NOT to mention the fact that Goolsby is a member of the NAFTA-CAFTA crafting Council on Foreign Relations, along with Michelle Obomba, who is a Chicago chapter member.

Worse, Goolsby is a member of Skull and Bones, just like John Kerry and the entire BushCrimeFamilia.

Also his chief foreign policy advisor is none other than the very man who armed Osama Bin Ladin in the first place, against the Soviets, Zbiegniew Brzezinski. Now, Obomba is willing to pre-emptively strike Iran, militarily intervene in Pakistan.

Besides, while Hitlery claims to want to withdrawal by 2013, both she and Obomba are willing to leave "advisory forces." That's how we got into the Vietnam mess, with "advisory forces." Which after Gulf of Tokin false flag, grew to over 100,000 forces. Nor have neither 3 "leading" candidates called to vacate the Vatican sized $5billion Baghdad embassy.

Now, HOW THE HELL IS ANY OF THAT "CHANGE??"

My fellow liberals and progressives. You need to wake the hell up. NONE of the Dem candidates, nor McNut will restore the Constitution, nor repeal any of the unConstitutional bills like the Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, John Warner Defense Authorization Act, Iraqi war Authorization, nor the Presidential Directive 51, which bypasses Congress and allows the Executive to declare martial law and crown himself a dictator, by arbitrarily declaring any incident as a "national emergency."

After 8 yrs of puppet presidency with the dumbest man to occupy the WH, and 8yrs of militarism at home and at abroad, loss of civil liberties, while our fellow citizens die at the hands of BlackWater in NOLA, during Katrina, tased to death by new batch of idiot brownshirts with badges, you're still willing to vote for another tool of the very oligarchy that gave you GWB?

Are you all inSANE?

The only man who has promised to restore our Rights, liberties, and FREEDOM, is RON PAUL. He has 30yrs of voting records to PROVE it. Yet you morons ridicule him and his supporters. Just wait until the FEDS really blow out this economy. Perhaps then, you'd bother to Google what a fiat currency and fractional reserve banking really means.

O-bomb-a? Champion of the People, he is not. Another, in the long line of Oligarchy's tools. He is no Savior.

The only independent man who CANNOT be bought still running for the Presidency is Ron Paul. And if you actually believe in the primary process, in light of Dems own "Super Delegates," you're being naive. If that did not illuminate to you the political parties are private entities, irrelevant how you voted in the caucuses or primaries, nothing will.

Ron Paul is still in the race. We're winning delegate seats at where it matters. The county and the State conventions. You have all the power in the world to set up platforms, even unbind bound delegates, as McNut, who have violated the law by going over his spending limit, by $4.4 MILLION, as he is still bound to public financing law that he co-crafted with Feingold, makes his delegates invalid.

This race is FAR from over. You want to be free? Become delegates in your own party's caucus. You can really set the platforms for Hitlery or Obomba to stick to.

But as their voting records clearly indicate, all three "leading" candidates are ALL, in fact, WAR CRIMINALS, as their voting directly led to the deaths of 4000 Americans, plus 100,000 reported and unreported casualties 1,000,000 Iraqis dead, along with hundreds of thousands of Afghanis. Not to mention direct loss and persecution of law abiding citizens at home.

You vote for either Hitlery, Obomba, or McNUt, YOU, yes, YOU, will also have continued blood on your hands.

Please wake up. Look into what RON PAUL has to say. While it hurt my stomach, initially to switch parties so I can vote for RP in the primaries, after watching 8yrs of neoCON horror show, after doing some REAL research, and abdication of Constitutional duties by BOTH Dems and GOP of 109th, and 110th Congress, I have come to the firm conclusion that neither party are all that different. They put on a dog and pony show for the sheeple, yet vote right down the line in real issues that matter and affect all, like the war, bankruptcy, etc.

RON PAUL is the only clear choice. What good is helping Darfur, when the militia there takes over our humanitarian aide and use food as weapons. What does it matter when our military there to do policing gets involved in civil strike, leading to same situation in IRaq and Afghanistan? Military nor "humanitarian" intervention works. Only trade and diplomacy.

Time to pull out ALL of our 700 military bases in over 130 nations. Time to END the empire.

Ironically, the Dummy in WH, and his neoCON hacks have done more to expose and lift the veil of illusion about the Real America, than anyone else in history; like Rome, we're nothing more than an empire. Bringing democracy at the barrel of a gun, or usury interest while taking sovereign natural resources as collateral is as colonialistic as the British Crown. Time we wake the hell up to this reality. Withdrawing our empire alone will save 500 billion dollars to a TRILLION dollars a year. Without such cuts, NONE of what the other candidates are promising can ever be paid for. We still have $70 TRILLION obligations to the boomers who are retiring at 60,000 a week.

We're broke. The Fed Reserve is as Federal as the FedEx. It is an unConstitutional private entity. No ONE risks going to jail for something that they do not believe to be true. ANd there are millions. It's high time you STOP believing propaganda from all sides and do your own RESEARCH.

Only then would you clearly realize why the entire establishment and even the "Alternative media," MUST ridicule him. Their own orthodoxy and paradigm depends on the lie of Statism.

Wake up. Vote Ron Paul. Really research. All his records are public for the world to see.

The only smear they have on this honest man are the TNR"newsletters," written by a "liberal" Jamie Kirchick, who supports Rudy Guiliani, the fomer owner a neoCON likudist, Marty Peretz. Yet none of you saw fit to question why, and why now? And ALL of them agree that Ron Paul is no racist, even Kirchick and Peretz, nor Bill White, the neoNazi whom Kirchick received the newsletters from, whom he called just b4 the orchestrated release. At worst, RP managed his business affairs poorly and hurt some people's sensibilities.

Yet, the foibles of other 3 candidates are DIRECTLY responsible for DEATHS, and loss of liberties and freedoms at home and at abroad. Have some perspective. You'll be voting for killers.

ROn Paul is the only one who actually ran his campaign with ZERO DEBT. If this man appointed someone to run the Treasury, like he ran his own campaign, we'd all be better off. Apparently he learned from his poor biz decision in his past. Others are continuing to make mistakes. Who would you prefer?

Wake up. Please visit RonPaulLibrary.org and RonPaulAudio.com to review his voting records, speeches, and interviews.

IF you honestly assess this man with an open mind, you'd come to the same conclusion this liberal/progressive did.

Ron Paul IS the only honest man running. He IS the only man who can deal with the coming economic, foreign and domestic policy crisis.


Posted by: MadHatter | Mar 24, 2008 6:26:51 PM

Misery has very little to do with anti-American feelings...the highest levels of American hatred are in Europe and the more liberal parts of America, Berkerly, Hollywood, and Seattle. None of these areas would make any list of miserable locales.

The facts are that the only true indicator of antipathy toward America is a person's ardor toward an ideology in which America stands atwhart, whether it it be the Islamist of Al Queda, to the socialists\leftists of the BBC or the communists of Chavez.

Also, make sure that you don't hide the brilliance of the creators of the "Obama doctrine" who wanted to use the US military to confront and force Israel to accept a Palistinian state because of the Jenin hoax in 2000.

So far it appears that the "Obama Doctrine" is to coddle our enemies for decades like Iran, Syria, and the Palistinians and to go to town on our allies, Pakistan and Iraq. Brilliant.


Posted by: LogicalSC | Mar 24, 2008 6:40:30 PM

I really wonder if you have any idea how O-bomb-a really voted. He voted FOR the extension of the Patriot Act. He voted FOR EVERY INCREASE in war/occupation funding of the Puppet Residency of the SImian in the WH. He voted FOR the creditcard industry crafted Bankruptcy Reform Act, before he voted against it.

And due to Canadian leak, now infamous Obomba's chief economics adviser, Austan Goolsby, is a graduate of THE U of Chicago School of bullsh*t, fake "freemarket" Economics, in the vein of pro-bigBiz, pro-bigGovt, pro-military industrial complex, interventionist, protectionist, ala "ShockDoctrine Capitalism" of the type that the the current batch of PNAC-neoCON warmongers Irving and Bill Kristol have been advocating. NOT to mention the fact that Goolsby is a member of the NAFTA-CAFTA crafting Council on Foreign Relations, along with Michelle Obomba, who is a Chicago chapter member.

Worse, Goolsby is a member of Skull and Bones, just like John Kerry and the entire BushCrimeFamilia.

Also his chief foreign policy advisor is none other than the very man who armed Osama Bin Ladin in the first place, against the Soviets, Zbiegniew Brzezinski. Now, Obomba is willing to pre-emptively strike Iran, militarily intervene in Pakistan.

Besides, while Hitlery claims to want to withdrawal by 2013, both she and Obomba are willing to leave "advisory forces." That's how we got into the Vietnam mess, with "advisory forces." Which after Gulf of Tokin false flag, grew to over 100,000 forces. Nor have neither 3 "leading" candidates called to vacate the Vatican sized $5billion Baghdad embassy.

Now, HOW THE HELL IS ANY OF THAT "CHANGE??"

My fellow liberals and progressives. You need to wake the hell up. NONE of the Dem candidates, nor McNut will restore the Constitution, nor repeal any of the unConstitutional bills like the Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, John Warner Defense Authorization Act, Iraqi war Authorization, nor the Presidential Directive 51, which bypasses Congress and allows the Executive to declare martial law and crown himself a dictator, by arbitrarily declaring any incident as a "national emergency."

After 8 yrs of puppet presidency with the dumbest man to occupy the WH, and 8yrs of militarism at home and at abroad, loss of civil liberties, while our fellow citizens die at the hands of BlackWater in NOLA, during Katrina, tased to death by new batch of idiot brownshirts with badges, you're still willing to vote for another tool of the very oligarchy that gave you GWB?

Are you all inSANE?

The only man who has promised to restore our Rights, liberties, and FREEDOM, is RON PAUL. He has 30yrs of voting records to PROVE it. Yet you morons ridicule him and his supporters. Just wait until the FEDS really blow out this economy. Perhaps then, you'd bother to Google what a fiat currency and fractional reserve banking really means.

O-bomb-a? Champion of the People, he is not. Another, in the long line of Oligarchy's tools. He is no Savior.

The only independent man who CANNOT be bought still running for the Presidency is Ron Paul. And if you actually believe in the primary process, in light of Dems own "Super Delegates," you're being naive. If that did not illuminate to you the political parties are private entities, irrelevant how you voted in the caucuses or primaries, nothing will.

Ron Paul is still in the race. We're winning delegate seats at where it matters. The county and the State conventions. You have all the power in the world to set up platforms, even unbind bound delegates, as McNut, who have violated the law by going over his spending limit, by $4.4 MILLION, as he is still bound to public financing law that he co-crafted with Feingold, makes his delegates invalid.

This race is FAR from over. You want to be free? Become delegates in your own party's caucus. You can really set the platforms for Hitlery or Obomba to stick to.

But as their voting records clearly indicate, all three "leading" candidates are ALL, in fact, WAR CRIMINALS, as their voting directly led to the deaths of 4000 Americans, plus 100,000 reported and unreported casualties 1,000,000 Iraqis dead, along with hundreds of thousands of Afghanis. Not to mention direct loss and persecution of law abiding citizens at home.

You vote for either Hitlery, Obomba, or McNUt, YOU, yes, YOU, will also have continued blood on your hands.

Please wake up. Look into what RON PAUL has to say. While it hurt my stomach, initially to switch parties so I can vote for RP in the primaries, after watching 8yrs of neoCON horror show, after doing some REAL research, and abdication of Constitutional duties by BOTH Dems and GOP of 109th, and 110th Congress, I have come to the firm conclusion that neither party are all that different. They put on a dog and pony show for the sheeple, yet vote right down the line in real issues that matter and affect all, like the war, bankruptcy, etc.

RON PAUL is the only clear choice. What good is helping Darfur, when the militia there takes over our humanitarian aide and use food as weapons. What does it matter when our military there to do policing gets involved in civil strike, leading to same situation in IRaq and Afghanistan? Military nor "humanitarian" intervention works. Only trade and diplomacy.

Time to pull out ALL of our 700 military bases in over 130 nations. Time to END the empire.

Ironically, the Dummy in WH, and his neoCON hacks have done more to expose and lift the veil of illusion about the Real America, than anyone else in history; like Rome, we're nothing more than an empire. Bringing democracy at the barrel of a gun, or usury interest while taking sovereign natural resources as collateral is as colonialistic as the British Crown. Time we wake the hell up to this reality. Withdrawing our empire alone will save 500 billion dollars to a TRILLION dollars a year. Without such cuts, NONE of what the other candidates are promising can ever be paid for. We still have $70 TRILLION obligations to the boomers who are retiring at 60,000 a week.

We're broke. The Fed Reserve is as Federal as the FedEx. It is an unConstitutional private entity. No ONE risks going to jail for something that they do not believe to be true. ANd there are millions. It's high time you STOP believing propaganda from all sides and do your own RESEARCH.

Only then would you clearly realize why the entire establishment and even the "Alternative media," MUST ridicule him. Their own orthodoxy and paradigm depends on the lie of Statism.

Wake up. Vote Ron Paul. Really research. All his records are public for the world to see.

The only smear they have on this honest man are the TNR"newsletters," written by a "liberal" Jamie Kirchick, who supports Rudy Guiliani, the fomer owner a neoCON likudist, Marty Peretz. Yet none of you saw fit to question why, and why now? And ALL of them agree that Ron Paul is no racist, even Kirchick and Peretz, nor Bill White, the neoNazi whom Kirchick received the newsletters from, whom he called just b4 the orchestrated release. At worst, RP managed his business affairs poorly and hurt some people's sensibilities.

Yet, the foibles of other 3 candidates are DIRECTLY responsible for DEATHS, and loss of liberties and freedoms at home and at abroad. Have some perspective. You'll be voting for killers.

ROn Paul is the only one who actually ran his campaign with ZERO DEBT. If this man appointed someone to run the Treasury, like he ran his own campaign, we'd all be better off. Apparently he learned from his poor biz decision in his past. Others are continuing to make mistakes. Who would you prefer?

Wake up. Please visit RonPaulLibrary.org and RonPaulAudio.com to review his voting records, speeches, and interviews.

IF you honestly assess this man with an open mind, you'd come to the same conclusion this liberal/progressive did.

Ron Paul IS the only honest man running. He IS the only man who can deal with the coming economic, foreign and domestic policy crisis.


Posted by: Prometheus | Mar 24, 2008 6:45:13 PM

Great article

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 24, 2008 7:02:03 PM

Sen Obama, like a used car salesman, is very good with words. Unfortunately, he lacks the experience, leadership and good jugment to accomplish what he is saying. It also take a lot of guts against insurmountable odds.

Attending a church for 20 years with a pastor spewing hate and anti american words is not exactly a good start. The worst thing is he attended the church with his own children. If you want to change the mindset of americans, you have to first start with yourself, your family, friends, congregation and campaign

To make great speeches in national TV and declare that we should be united and racial divide should end and mindset should change but be complacent when confronted with it is tantamount to hypocrisy and grandstanding.


Posted by: rgutty | Mar 24, 2008 8:11:56 PM


Whatever it is, it'll be better than the Bush-McCain doctrine:

http://acropolisreview.com/2008/03/john-mccains-iraq-war-five-year.html


Posted by: Michelle | Mar 24, 2008 11:13:03 PM

Clinton and McCain are both Judas's to the American people. Want proof? check this out!

"It's tag-teaming Burson-Marsteller style."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/24/14518/22 13/544/463202

An excerpt...

Hillary Clinton's chief strategist is Mark Penn, and Charlie Black, John McCain's top adviser, is chairman of BKSH, the DC-based lobbying subsidiary of Burson-Marsteller -- of which Mark Penn is CEO.

Yes, this is the same lobbyist Barack Obama was referring to when he criticized John McCain for allowing lobbyists to conduct their business on board his bus.

BKSH is a bipartisan lobbying firm. Black, the chairman is the top Republican. The top Democrat is R. Scott Patrick, who like Penn, supports Hillary Clinton.

Mark Penn's personal interests would clearly be best served by a Hillary Clinton victory.

A McCain presidency wouldn't be a bad consolation prize, however. It would be far better to have the head of his lobbying be tight with the president than to have a president like Obama who sought to impose new restrictions on his lobbyist operation.


Posted by: Elbram | Mar 25, 2008 12:04:06 AM

I love editorials by liberals expounding on the wonders of Obama. I agree, he needs to get the nomination! Then, Republicans will kick that weak, Jimmy Carter wannabe's backside. I just hope we don't have to read about "stolen elections" when Obama loses. The far left like this writer created Obama and now they're going to go down the sewer with him and it will be completely the fault of the left wing or a left wing party.

Posted by: Bill Carson | Mar 25, 2008 12:35:36 AM


Sorry, one letter needed to be corrected in last sentence:

I love editorials by liberals expounding on the wonders of Obama. I agree, he needs to get the nomination! Then, Republicans will kick that weak, Jimmy Carter wannabe's backside. I just hope we don't have to read about "stolen elections" when Obama loses. The far left like this writer created Obama and now they're going to go down the sewer with him and it will be completely the fault of the left wing of a left wing party.



Posted by: Bill Carson | Mar 25, 2008 12:37:53 AM

"It's interesting that members of the military have given far more, in huge numbers, to Sen. Obama than to either Sen. Clinton or Sen. McCain. You think that tells us anything about who they want elected?"

Posted by: Molly Weasley | Mar 24, 2008 11:40:35 AM


So what? Obama has raised more money from civilians as well..that doesn't necessarily mean anything come November.


Posted by: Spike | Mar 25, 2008 12:59:06 AM

"It's interesting that members of the military have given far more, in huge numbers, to Sen. Obama than to either Sen. Clinton or Sen. McCain. You think that tells us anything about who they want elected?"

Posted by: Molly Weasley | Mar 24, 2008 11:40:35 AM

What is your source for this claim? I am one and have not seen a hint of movement toward Obama from my peers, subordinates, or superiors. In fact I have reams of contravening anecdotal evidence that goes against this theory.


Posted by: CPT P | Mar 25, 2008 1:24:14 AM

So Obama thinks that we shall provide the world's miserable people with dignity. People such as the oppressed shiites of Saddam Husein's Iraq. How would Obama have accomplished that without invading Iraq? He voted against it.
Obama is too youthful and inexperienced to be president of anything. He has the youthful arrogance to think that our problems are really simple, if we could just drop all our "baggage and see things with his own clear, "transformative" vision. He rejected his own privileged upbringing and fell into the arms of a racist bigot just so he could feel closer to the "downtrodden" people that he chooses to identify with. Then lectures us about our failure to dialog with the downtrodden.
If the color of Obamas skin were a little paler he would qualify precisely for what Jesse Jackson once called a "smart assed white boy".


Posted by: louis | Mar 25, 2008 1:32:30 AM

As always the leftists have it backwards. Yeah, it's mindless fear of those lovely terrorists that's causing the problem, a bunch of evil, horrible Americans and not Islamic fascists. What we need to do is make sure to give the terrorists more things, and don't forget to berate America some more while you're doing it. Democrats will ALWAYS side with evil. ALWAYS.

Posted by: bjig123 | Mar 25, 2008 3:03:11 AM

Oh good grief.

I know EXACTLY what a "Dignity Doctrine" means.

MORE foreign aide, which means more $$$$, which means more debt.

He's gonna do that, AND pass universal healthcare AND fix poor schools in the innercities?

How's he gonna pay for it?


Posted by: Mary | Mar 25, 2008 3:25:16 AM

This article is exactly the reason why progressives will not and cannot be trusted with foreign policy. Whether it's President McCain or President Obama - neither would do anything as damaging to the US and the free world as to follow this philosophy. It's not like the use of US military power has not occured at the end of fairly extensive diplomatic overtures. US unpopularity and European irresponsibility and unwillingness to share burdens aside, the rest of the world and Europe in particular has moved closer to George Bush's successful policies - in particular on non-proliferation of WMD and on the tremendous success of rolling back jihadism throughout the world, and yes, even in Iraq and Afghanistan. One problem with this article is that it presumes it's judgement on the Iraq war has been proven correct. Are you up on current events? The war may not have been implemented in the best manner, but it is achieving dramatic and positive effects in the middle east and against Al Qaeda in particular. Iran is on notice, all their rhetoric aside. The rest of us in the real world can safely ignore the usual leftist claptrap about the "politics of fear" or that US policy is dominated by military and corporatist thinking. As for human rights and dignity promotion, all US presidents have made that a cornerstone of US policy, some with more effect than others.

Posted by: Daniel | Mar 25, 2008 3:37:56 AM

Obama raises money indeed. Hillary gets plenty of support from the military, Wesley Clarke is at the top of that list.
Obama spent 4 times what Hillary did in Ohio and lost, so much for money.
And I agree with the republican here. If Obama is the nominee the democrats will lose in November.
It's great to think. Chomsky can think although I don't really like to listen to him think. So Obama is some big intellectual concerning defense. I haven't seen much evidence of that. You can talk about mindsets, what good does it do? It's like the old boys sitting around bullshitting, this is what they should do, that is what they should do.
That's a college game isn't it? Bullshit. Long windedness. Come to the point and make it. And you mix your Clintons in this article. One Clinton is not necessarily the other.
You think you saw Clinton stuck on her vote. Was she wrong? She was only wrong because Bush lied to her which Kerry in 2004 couldn't have known.
Obviously here we have one of Obama's biggest fans. Do you let the fans of Hilary write for this magazine?
If you did maybe I would subscribe to it again.
Until then, you and the Nation and Mother Jones remain in my Dog House.


Posted by: Eddie Bryan | Mar 25, 2008 4:32:20 AM

A point of view from France:

Opinions, opinions.. opinions without a valid argumentation is nothing, that is exactly how I perceived this article: looks like an old styled propaganda, not an article.

One of the Clint Eastwood's characters said: "Well, sir, opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one."

For instance, claiming that not willing to meet with the leadership in Iran is a mistake because "we haven't for 25 years, and it's not gotten us anywhere" is a pure fallacy. I am not going to waste my time to correct this one, any decent and educated reader can do by himself. And there are dozens of such fallacies in this article.

Well, the fact is simple: this article, this (excuse me) "opinion" is not about decency, it's all about illusion. Good luck with your illusions, dear Spencer Ackerman!




Posted by: Pierre Le Loup | Mar 25, 2008 4:40:36 AM

What would be the difference between saying you have a secret plan to end our troubles and saying you are going to transcend all our troubles away? You get the same lack of policy options to examine. Maybe the only difference is that the secret plan might have costs while the transformative policy is pretty close to magic ponies.

Who is going to lead the transcending on Afghanistan? Are we going to transform more troops there (post-Iraq)? Or are we going to mindset troops back home, leaving a worse, more dangerous to US interests regime to come to power? I think I prefer the secret plan in this case.


Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 25, 2008 4:48:23 AM

I liked the way you deleted my post. I maintain my opinion about this article: it's just a propaganda, nothing about liberal "intelligence".

The text is full of fallcies, this article is just a crap.


Posted by: Pierre Le Loup | Mar 25, 2008 5:10:34 AM

"Dignity promotion?" I don't have any problem with the concept, but what a horrible name!!! It exudes wussiness, and Republicans will pounce all over it and warp it beyond all recognition. Call it "helping hope," call it something, anything else.

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 25, 2008 5:55:22 AM

Lord. what a load. You liberals are so naive it's incredible. This planet is not for you.
Mattei


Posted by: MM | Mar 25, 2008 6:15:53 AM

OBAMA IS UNELECTABLE IN GENERAL ELECTION
Easy to see already see Republican attack ads against Obama. First open with videos of racist wife, Michelle, saying she was proud of America "for the first time" because of her husband's presidential candidacy, next Obama explaining that he doesn't wear an American flag lapel pin or hold his hands to his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance because it is a "substitute for true patriotism." Then flash a clip of Obama explaining that his Caucasian grandmother was a "typical white person" because she uttered racial epithets and was afraid of black people. Finally, the coup de grace, pictures of Obama's angry, arm-waving preacher blaming the United States for 9/11 and shouting "God Damn America" to the rafters of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ and preaching the U.S. government formulated the HIV AIDS virus to commit genocide against blacks. Even though Obama supposedly condemning Wright's shocking verbal assaults against the U.S and White Americans, even last year; Obama was the first to public ally demand Don Imus ouster for making a racially insensitive remark, and Obama continues to support Wrights racism and remains at the church for more than 20 years, he and Michelle obviously feels itâ??s a good environment to expose his young daughters too. His opinions and issues change with the weather, he is too UNSTABLE and proven he cannot make a decision or stay with one. If thatâ??s not enough, then you start showing his terrible senate voting record, Obama when faced with tough choices always gave in to pressure from the Bush administration or corporate lobbyists, Obama dealings with one of his largest contributors, Exelon, a big nuclear power company and the deals he cut behind closed doors to protect them from full disclosure in the nuclear industry. Obamas record shows he infact did support the war when he got to the senate, voted twice against bringing America's troops back home. He voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater where Texas woman, was gang-raped by her co-workers at a Halliburton/KBR camp in Baghdad, His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any troop withdrawal, if not suspended, keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come, but in his camp stumps touts he wants to bring troops home, but as we have witnessed his recent lies to voters like Canada he cannot be trusted on his word and lastly ALL the corrupt indicted financial backers, like Rezkoâ?¦Get out of the race Obama you are destroying the democratic party!



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Posted by: left/right combo | Mar 25, 2008 7:04:11 AM

Here is a 3,300-word piece on the foreign policy views of a major presidential contender and yet the terms "China," "Russia," "Israel," "Palestine," "North Korea," "India," "Mexico," "Saudi Arabia" and "NATO" don't make an appearance. All Ackerman provides is a breathless encomium to gauzy principles of which he approves. That's not journalism.

Posted by: Marcus | Mar 25, 2008 7:05:28 AM

Useless, long-winded, pointless article.

Funny how only about 39 other people managed to sit through it and post a comment - perhaps, next time, Spencer, get more to the point and less with the vacuous meandering. Sounds like you may be voting for Obama, you completely overlook the factual reality of the candidate in favor of some sinister preaching that, frankly, by the end of the article, gets nowhere.

What a waste of time. Obama's foreign policy plan is an illusion, just like your article.

You are no political analyst, Spencer. Go do some homework and see how the big boys do it.


Posted by: gfdg | Mar 25, 2008 7:07:49 AM

Who's Ron Paul?

Posted by: Pon Raul | Mar 25, 2008 7:18:41 AM

the sentence "Voting against the war wasn't a mistake" doesn't make sense in the context, probably the intention was to say the opposite

Posted by: cris | Mar 25, 2008 7:37:47 AM

The Clinton's are the masters of the politics of personal destruction and mud slinging and win-at-all costs dirty campaigning. They will stop at nothing to win including trying to intimidate Jewish voters into believing Barack Obama is an anti-Israel Moslem, trying to scare white voters away with allegations of his past drug use, demeaning and debasing every primary and caucus win he has had, and this past weekend, impugning his patriotism. The Clinton's feel they are entitled to return to the White House but the voters are telling them NO. They have reacted to the voters, of all colors and all religions, and all ages, who are voting for Obama by doing whatever they possibly can to destroy him, to tear him down, to belittle each of his victories, and to scare people away from voting for him. It's not only black Americans who should be disgusted with them, it's most Americans. I am a Democrat, white, and Jewish, and if Hillary Clinton somehow manages to steal the nomination from Barack Obama I will vote for McCain in November and most of my friends, both white and black, feel the same. Obama has proven he knows how to lift us all up whereas the only thing the Clinton's are proving they know how to do is tear down. It's obvious to me America needs a leader who can inspire us and not divide us and that person is Barack Obama.

Posted by: Mark Jeffery Koch | Mar 25, 2008 7:46:36 AM

I DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHINGTHAT THIS GUY SAYS BECAUSE HE WOULD SAY ANYTHING THAT WOULD GET HIM INTO POWER,SO FAR HE HAS RETRACTED OF THINGS THAT HE HAD SAID THAT ARE NOT POPULAR, HE SAYS ONE THING TODAY AND TOMORROW A DIFFERENT ONE.
IN ORDER TO GET VOTES HE IS PROPAGATING A RACIAL RESEMENTS, HE HAS NO LIMITS HE EVEN BRINGS HIS GRANNY INTO PLAY
AND THEN...
THINK THAT IF ANY AMERICAN WAS TO APPLY FOR A POSITION IN THE FOREING SERVICE & OF COURSE W ILL GET THRU THE GOV. SCRUTINY &HAVING; A HISTORY OF A CLOSE RELATION OF 20 YRS @ A RADICAL ANTI-AMERICAN MENTOR,???,DO YOU THINK HE WOULD GET THE JOB?', I DO NOT THINK SO¡¡¡ DO YOU THINK THIS MAN IS SUTTED TO BE A PRESIDENT????

BESIDES WE DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM,¡¡¡???? THE MEDIA IS EITHER REPUBLICAN OR IRRESPONSIBLE

WE HAVE JUST "TO BELIEVE IN HIM", LIKE IF HE WAS A SORT FAITH OR GOD


Posted by: story | Mar 25, 2008 8:22:46 AM

Ending a mind-set is a very difficult undertaking. I admire the Senator from illinoois for having the insight and fortitude. America is basically a complex nation. It idealogy is regional. We have a southern mindset that differs along racial, intellectual and economic lnes. We have a mid=western mindset that differs along economic lines, we have an eastern mindset that differs along economic, gender and racial lines, and we have a western mindset that's usually all over the place.

Fighting the instistutional racism in America is a fight indeed, especially when you have so many people unwilling to give up that superiority complex thatbtheir forefathers willed them. And, you have hispanicsa, ostly Cubans in Florida and a majority of Mexicans who actually have bought into the propoganda they are white.

Obama has an undertaking most regular citizens would run from. I respect and appreciate him for opening himself up for this type of scrutiny, and getting himself beat-up from people who are set in their old offensive and ignorant ways of doing things. You'e earned my vote Senator. You are the true patriot, because you see and want a better America.


Posted by: Sylvia | Mar 25, 2008 8:38:39 AM

One of the principal flaws in Obama's proposed foreign policy is that, while many people imagine that withdrawal from Iraq means "peace," attacking Al Qaeda in Waziristan means just the opposite: a long, costly, bloody war under the most adverse of military conditions. Further, if this happens, the U.S. can expect a possibly violent reaction from Pakistan. The writer is correct in stating that a candidate's advisers give away his true position. Just consider what J.F.K.'s advisers got us into (though LBJ and Nixon took the rap).

Posted by: Democritus | Mar 25, 2008 9:13:24 AM

Never, in my lifetime.

Posted by: Avenell | Mar 25, 2008 9:20:15 AM

This kind of visionary thinking is long overdue and is the best way to resotre America's standing in the world AND defeat terrorists where they are strongest. This is the PERFECT foreign policy for America in the post-Bush/Clinton era, and I can't wait to see it enacted.

Posted by: Chris | Mar 25, 2008 9:22:49 AM

Never have I been so delighted after having read an article about American foreign policy!
Obviusly America needs a new approach to the latter and who would be more appropriate for this action to be taken than Obama? It`s a shame many Americans are still afraid of anything new and prefer to stick to the old style of foreign policy, being brought to "perfection" by George W. Bush. After 8 years, what did he achieve? 4000 dead GI`s in Iraq, unnumerous more citizens, Europe alienated, the Mid-East as unsecure as ever and Russia back again as a kind-of enemy...I argue that Obama is the only one of the candidates capable of reversing these developments and starting a new age of US foreign policy!
What many complain about is Obama`s alleged lack of experience...well, why is this so bad after all? In fact, him not being messed up with the old patterns of foreign policy makes him the perfect canditate to deal with the problems in the most appropriate because different way. The best evidence supporting this was his early opposition to the war in Iraq (I´m aware that some still consider it a succes, just because the situation is not as bad as it used to be...). So how can one seriously complain about his lack of experience, when the other potential future Presidents of the USA made the same mistake Bush did, namely supporting a war that should never habe been started, although they claim to have so much experience.
Everyone who knows something about foreign policy affairs and our current global political situation must admit, that the USA will never be successful by employing their current way of approaching terrorism, globalisation, poverty etc.
If I may add something personally: I am a 19-year-old-German, who just left High School and is currently working as a volunteer in Israel. I am already living in Israel for 8 months and from what I learned by living in this area, currently affected by one of the most critical conflicts in the world, not only America but the whole world need a groundbreaking change of the mind-set, leading to a more peaceful world of tolerance and dignity.
So, realistically speaking, who could trigger off such crucial development? No country but the USA, still being the only global superpower! Furthermore, we have to ask who could lead this country on such a path? Nobody but Obama!
The fact that he wants to speak to the Ahmadinejads and Kim Jong-ils of the world proves this. If the Western World keeps invading other countries and thereby supporting terrorism, we will just gain more suicide bombings. Instead we should concentrate on supporting education and wealth in the many critical areas of the world. Who do you think would rather join Al-Qaida: A young man whose family has been killed by soldiers from the USA, England, Spain etc, whose school has been blown up and whose country is occupied or a young guy who has the chance to go to university, lives in more or less wealthy conditions and has the prospect of getting a well paid job? I do not need to answer this. So let us concentrate on supporting an environment that encourages the latter and democracy will come just by itself.
I am aware that because I grew up in Germany and also one year in England I am influenced by a different comprehension of the world and its affairs. However, I also know that Europe and the USA need to stand together again, now more than ever. You need us, but even more we depend on you. So why not start a new era of alliance and solve the world`s problems together? As a European, I know that Europa will be significantly more passionate to work with Obama, rather than Clinton! The Euopean nations still have not forgotten about the mistakes Bush made and to us a potential election of McCain and also Clinton would not mark a sufficient change with the Bush administration, having caused the world and especially America so much trouble.
I am aware that I might drift away from the actual topic of this article, however I need to do so, because this election is about so much more than just Obama or Clinton! It is about everything that will follow this election. I hope that America is aware of the epoch-making changes the election will initiate...


Posted by: Jost Dittkrist | Mar 25, 2008 9:53:41 AM

Regarding the reinvention of foreign policy it reminds me of the great society programs that were going to cure poverty. Nice idea but you can't "give" people the gift of leaving poverty any more than you can "give" the world "dignity" through foreign policy. Better to find ways to work within and improve the current framework and then perhaps, after a good first term, tackle something more radical. The first thing any Dem should do upon winning is reassure the military and help address their operational concerns. Win some good will. THEN ask for their support when it's needed for policy shifts.

Posted by: Peter | Mar 25, 2008 9:55:47 AM

This "radical" foreign policy change is only so to Bush haters who have not been paying attention. The administration, both military and non-military have been talking about these non-military principals for years. Are you unaware of Bush's Africa trip? Have you not read the stories of the military helping to build infrastructure not just in Iraq and Afghanistan but in Yemen?

Or does it just not fit your nice little Bush is a warmonger and Obama is the savior story?


Posted by: Rob Gladstone | Mar 25, 2008 10:00:29 AM

The old bomb, bomb, bomb theory sure sounds good, but Its so yesteday.

Go OBAMA


Posted by: keystone_state_white_man | Mar 25, 2008 10:01:45 AM

Mary wrote: Oh good grief.

I know EXACTLY what a "Dignity Doctrine" means.

MORE foreign aide, which means more $$$$, which means more debt.

He's gonna do that, AND pass universal healthcare AND fix poor schools in the innercities?

How's he gonna pay for it?
-------------------------------
Probably the same way that Bush and the repugnants have paid for Iraq and tax cuts for the rich: by borrowing the money from China and letting our kids worry about paying it back.


Posted by: Pearl | Mar 25, 2008 10:02:21 AM

There's not much insight in this article about how Obama would deal with North Korea or Iran. What would he do about the WMD programs of these rouge countries? Anyone who thinks the leaders of either of those countries can be trusted is incredibly naive.

David Kaye, the same weapons inspector who found there were no stockpiles for WMDs in Iraq, also said that Iraq under Saddam was well on its way to becoming an information market on WMDs and that any of Saddam's underlings could have entered this market. Also, according to a UN report, Saddam had every intention of resuming his WMD programs once world attention was no longer on him. While a recent report indicates that al-Qaeda may have had a low presence in Iraq before the war, the same report showed that there were many other terrorist groups in Iraq. What is Obama's reaction to the facts? Would he still say we made a mistake in invading Iraq?

Will Obama get duped by North Korea, like the Clinton administration? If Obama meets with Ahmadinejad, will it be from a position of strength, or will he be as weak as Jimmy Carter was during the Iranian hostage crisis?


Posted by: Conservative Atheist | Mar 25, 2008 10:12:43 AM

Mr. Ackerman if you got paid more than four cents to write that article it was three cents too much. The idea that a foreign policy team full of folks with world experience is something new is something a third grader would say. Foreign policy experts are supposed to have world experience. Furthermore, how exactly are we supposed to have so called dignity promotion while working with the despotic regimes that created it. The main reason there is famine and poverty in Zimbabwe for instance is because it is run by a tyrant. The same is true of the Middle East. How naive is it to think that you can solve the ills of the Middle East and Africa while working with the governments that created it? The reason there is poverty in Iran is because it is run by tyrants. The same is true of Syria and frankly most of the countries of the middle east. This is quite possibly one of the most ridiculous poorly researched pieces I have ever read. I hope everyone is able to read this so that everyone can understand how naive Barack Obama is.

Posted by: mike volpe | Mar 25, 2008 10:42:43 AM

I'm interested in where MS Molly Weasley got the idea that the military gives predominantly to Obama. As a member of that military, I know for sure that: 1. Most of my soldiers don't have the cash to give to ANY presidential candidate. 2. Most of my soldiers would never give to anyone that give only lip service to the military but give real support to the enemy!!!

Posted by: Don | Mar 25, 2008 11:02:15 AM

Same old failed overly optimistic policy of the left. "Can't we all get along?" 1) Minimum force for Iraq: Ask Rumsfeld that question. 2) What about dignity for non-radical Muslims, Jews and Christians in the middle east. 3) Sounds like rehashed Jimmy Carter naiveness and the . 3) Human Dignity: Africa: we've been pumping billions of dignity into Africa for years only to have the tribal leaders steal the money. 4) What about dignity for those born into dictatorships? 5) Iraq was a major contributor to terror despite the anti-Bush headlines, every report shows it. 6) American hegemony is overblown by the Marxist left. It's the Arab countries making most of the money from the oil, not the oil companies which are owned by the retirement funds of American workers.

Posted by: Not Naive | Mar 25, 2008 11:05:05 AM

Great column, Spencer. I am drawn to Obama's intelligence in reframing our foreign policy. None of the other candidates seem to offer any new ideas. I agree with Obama and his advisers, our world view must be transformed. We must become a good neighbor in the world community. America will continue to suffer if we continue to act in the world as a neighbor who is selfish and greedy and fearful. Obama is right on. I will continue to support him in every way I can. Our country is in need of transformation.

Posted by: Dahveed | Mar 25, 2008 11:12:25 AM

I think that this is an excellent article, although the author does seem a little inundated with Obamania, where not only will the candidate transform our practical politics, but will also transform the American soul, as some sort of messianic president... but regardless, a solid criticism of some foreign policy and a stingent defense of a new foreign policy -- although one that I disagree with generally (I particularly think that had Bush followed his own foreign policy rhetoric that he outlined in 2001 and 2002, that the Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan would have functioned much more differently, that the war on terror would have been more effective, and so on. The "Bush Doctrine" is a bit of a misnomer when held against recent history: he may have outlined it, but he certainly never executed it).

That being said, I only have one minor contention with the authors article... the statement and paragraph that begins with...

"What's typically neglected in these arguments is the simple insight that democracy does not fill stomachs..."

That's both untrue substantively and rhetorically. Arguments about liberalism and democracy, and in many cases liberal democracy, do not neglect "the simple insight," that is precisely WHY they are written: because liberal democracies _do_ fill stomachs. Illiberal societies are very rarely democracies, despite the phrase "illiberal democracy" being coined by leading proponents of the democratic movement in the late 20th century, and functioning democracies are very rarely illiberal. The is a union of necessity between the two and they exist as persuasive systems of government precisely because they _do_ fill stomachs, they _do_ fend off malaria, and so on and so forth.

The author, and those who ascend to his incorrect statement that foreign policy arguments for liberalism and/or democracy ignore this 'simple insight,' would do very well for themselves to read Marc Plattner's recently published "Democracy Without Borders: Challenges to Liberal Democracy." Plattner is an unnabashed champion of the liberal-democratic movement, more so learning towards the camp of democracy than necessarily liberalism (although he rightly recognizes a cohesive link). The book may be hard to find and runs upwards of $70 in hardcover, but copies exist on Amazon, Barnes&Noble.com;, and so on, in the $20 range.

It should be required reading for any discussions about contemporary American foreign policy.


Posted by: Brazell | Mar 25, 2008 11:28:51 AM

Such naivete would be almost cute if it wasnâ??t so deadly. The answer to global jihad is ... global welfare? Did someone never tell Obama that Saudi Arabia has one of the most liberal welfare programs in the world? Or perhaps he's never heard that all of the nineteen 9/11 terrorists were from the middle class? Or surely he missed the fact that Osama Bin Laden was the son of a billionaire? Or for that matter, has he ever counted the number of terrorists that emanate from the poorest parts of the world? (that would be zero for the mathematically challenged)

It's a bit difficult to explain this entrenched belief in the causal link between poverty and terrorism. It's not supported by the facts, nor even by abstract reason; the only thing that can be said for the belief is that it fits into the mythology of certain ideologues, of the type that Obama is obviously choosing to surround himself with.


Posted by: eclecticEel | Mar 25, 2008 11:52:01 AM

mark jeffery koch you talk and talk and talk but you say nothing!!!. Get off the soap box.I bet your ansisters voted for HILTER . Stop talking and realy listen to how the man speaks . Listen to what he means not what he says. If the german people did that WWII Europe would have not been at war. Politician will tell you what you want to hear not what you should hear. WISE UP DIP S - -T WHO F - - KING CARES WHO YOUR FRIENDS ARE VOTEING FOR IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU ARE NOT AN INDEPENDENT THINKER

Posted by: you have to be kidding | Mar 25, 2008 12:22:34 PM

mark jeffery koch you talk and talk and talk but you say nothing!!!. Get off the soap box.I bet your ancestor voted for HILTER . Stop talking and realy listen to how the man speaks . Listen to what he means not what he says. If the german people did that WWII Europe would have not been at war. Politician will tell you what you want to hear not what you should hear. WISE UP DIP S - -T WHO F - - KING CARES WHO YOUR FRIENDS ARE VOTEING FOR IT JUST GOES TO SHOW YOU ARE NOT AN INDEPENDENT THINKER

Posted by: you have to be kidding | Mar 25, 2008 12:27:16 PM

Practical specifics, which we all would like to hear, are not possible at this stage of the election process, that can only come once a candidate has won the election and setup his/her house they way they want it.
The best laid plans of mice and men, comes into play then because no matter what the plan is, it will have to have the backing of the people(unless we get trampled on again) and congress.
I do not see Mac or hrc giving a flying **** about congress or the American people, it will be all about them.


Posted by: jc | Mar 25, 2008 12:35:54 PM

Clinton 'mis' spoke about her Bosnia several times!!!


http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/25/105346/318/33


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Posted by: Biracial1 | Mar 25, 2008 12:37:11 PM

I couldn't agree more with Obama's objectives. To paraphrase Benito Juarez, human dignity is peace, and it is true, as your author says, democracy by itself doesn't fill bellies and create dignity. But how to achieve full bellies and human dignity? Well, trade is essential for one thing. So where is Obama's defense of the WTO and NAFTA? If there is anything that makes one suspect the sanity of liberals it is their insistance that people can be made wealthy only by destroying the very basis of wealth, that is, the opportunity to profit oneself by meeting the needs of others. What Darfur and Somalia need are more greedy multinationals. Greedy multinationals have been China's salvation and are the potential salvation of the rest of world as well. We are indeed too quick to resort to war. But the alternative to war is not charity and kind thoughts but business and investment. Over time, economic development has always trickled down to the poor and, like it or not, that is the only way that wealth will ever come to them.

Posted by: Red State Charlie | Mar 25, 2008 12:39:18 PM

I am curious as to why the media always seems to harp on Obama's being against the war in Iraq as if it were equivocal to Hillary's voting for it.

It's easy to say that Obama would have voted against it, but the simple truth is that he was not in a position to do so.

By the same token, it is unclear how he would have voted in the Senate, because he wasn't in the Senate at that point in time!

This is seriously major B.S.



Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 25, 2008 1:14:15 PM

Interesting article, seems to have been well-researched, great to know the names of all the "brain trusters" associated with Barack Obama. I really enjoyed learning about Sarah Sewall's partnership with General David Petraeus. Hayden's criticism of a human rights center collaborating with a top U.S. general reminds me of the same disdain that far right wingnuts express toward John McCain's collaboration with Russ Feingold, Ted Kennedy and Joe Lieberman.

I actually like the idea of dignity promotion, and depending on how it's pitched, I don't think it necessary has to be perceived as "wussiness". As a Libertarian, my idea of promoting dignity has to do with promoting self-reliance, personal responsibility and a free market. But that's just me. It's also a concept shared much more by John McCain than by Barack Obama, who strikes me as a really well-spoken old-school Marxist at his core. We can listen to the Wright apologists who say that we shouldn't judge Obama by his pastor, but I tend to agree more with Thomas Sowell's article "The Audacity of Rhetoric" (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/post_25.html) on that topic. In other words, yes we can judge Obama by the company he keeps. The voters' judgment of Obama's carefully cultivated relationships with counterculture radicals, along with his inconsistencies on NAFTA, the timetable for pulling troops out of Iraq, and his decision to wage a very negative and race-focused campaign in spite of commitments to the contrary will probably carry far more weight than their ability to access and comprehend his foreign policy philosophy.

The fact that Obama's able to attract great thinkers is admirable, and we definitely need an infusion of great thought in our government as long as it isn't simply a rehash of old thought expressed in new language.


Posted by: Lagomorph | Mar 25, 2008 1:14:48 PM

I certainly think Americans will accept it. We accepted Bush for eight years and with that going as badly as it is, the opposite could only be the right direction.

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Posted by: Brian | Mar 25, 2008 1:29:19 PM

S.A., don't despair. Most of these negative rebuttals are the results of those too lazy to actually read the entire article...and besides some of them originate with those of obviously of different and very marginal philosophies (and consequently unimportant!) what is important is that BO needs to be recognized as the way-left liberal that you've described. The electorate will do the rest!!!! (remember Dukakis?!!!)

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 25, 2008 1:40:08 PM

Finally someone who tells it like it is.

Democracy doesn't "fill bellies", at least not quickly. Democracy is rather inefficient at getting things done, and it certainly isn't fast or easy.

You want quick results and rapid changes? You need a tyranny. Until you have a fascist warlord running things, you're going to have a lot of needless "discussion".

So we have to stop spreading democracy, and start spreading tyrannical Dictatorships ASAP so we can get the world on our side...

I can't imagine why nobody was willing to go the extra step and spell it out, but this article comes the closest I've seen to admitting that Democracy is a failure, and what we really need is some good old-fashioned fascism to get things working.

And I do agree, Obama will be the man to help get this done world-wide. Stop trying to "spread Democracy" and start spreading Dictatorships and fascism. Elect Obama '08.


Posted by: Gekk | Mar 25, 2008 1:44:11 PM

When did Perle become a close Bush advisor? He has had little to no role in the Bush presidency and he was not involved in the Bush campaign in 2000.

Wolfowitz, as a warmonger? He was the very respected dean of arguably the top foreign policy graduate school, SAIS, prior to becoming Rumsfeld's deputy.

Funny, but why did you mention Wolfowitz and Perle, and not Rice or Rumsfeld?

As for Jewish leaders being concerned about Obama's middle east policy, they should be. None of his advisors advocate policies that are pro-Israel and some like Brezinski are openly hostile. Whether they are anti-semitic or not is a different question but definitely anti-Israel.


Posted by: Ackerman needs to do research | Mar 25, 2008 1:44:27 PM

This is truly delightful!!!! If this is what passes for "Liberal Intelligence" then Republicans have nothing to fear. The article was informative but in a way that the author did not intend. What a load of drivel. How many ways can you repackage the same old tired policies? Apparently, as many times as it takes. You can rest assured that if it does not work this time, it will be re-wrapped, a few new buzz words added, then shoved down our throats via a new and improved candidate next time around. The class warfare and Imperial America arguments are tired and worn out. The real American Citizen can see through the retoric and those that push this tripe.

Posted by: kaboom | Mar 25, 2008 1:44:56 PM

An excellent article. Whatever criticisms you might have of Obama - overly optimistic, naive, etc. - there's no arguing that our foreign policy has had mixed success at best, and has dangerously failed during the Bush administration. Can anyone name even two foreign policy successes by Bush?

The naysayers above are stuck in the past. Their criticisms fail to address the fundamental issue: why our current policies are ineffective. They are ineffective because they are dictated by special interests rather than the interests of the United States as a whole. People want a policy that is based on pragmatism -- what advances the interests of the U.S. in the most effective manner. Current approaches are frankly indefensible. Bush has allowed narrow agendas to influence our policy. Look at how right wing Christian goals have found there way into our foreign aid policy. This has hurt our interests.

Arguments that unilateral attacks on Al Quaeda in Pakistan will start a war miss the point. There is a fundamental problem that the world of nations has seen in the last half century. Insurgencies and guerilla wars are able to persist by living on the borders of nations. Cambodia, Vietnam, Colombia, many others, and now Pakistan/Afghanistan are examples. Insurgents hide behind the sovereignty of one country while launching attacks into another country. Bush set the precedent that harboring of those who would make war on us is itself an act of war. The Taliban in effect comitted the 9/11 attack by harboring and support Al Quaeda. We rightly intervened.

So, military capabalities aside, morally, what makes the Pakistan situation any different? Should we allow them to do what the Taliban did only because they are stronger? Terrorists and guerillas train and stage from Pakistan, attack Afghanistan (and Nato soldiers), and return the safe harbor of Pakistani sovereignty. Would we stand by if Canada did nothing while terrorists launched rockets from Canada into the US? NO!. Did we protest when Turkey went into Iraq to attack Kurdish guerillas? Hardly.

The past approach with Pakistan has not worked. Pakistan has chosen detente with radicals and terrorists at the expense of Afghanistan and those who support it. In action, they are not our friends. A clear line needs to be drawn: stop allowing your territory to be used for terrorism and guerilla warfare, or WE WILL.

The real failure of recent American foreign policy is fear of taking risk. This business maxim is applicable to foreign policy: nothing risked, nothing gained. We risked arming Europe with intermediate range nuclear missiles. We risked blockading Cuba. We risked aiding the Mujahadeen (how would USSR respond to their copters being missiled out of the sky en masse?). With these risks came valuable gains.

Take the risk of angering Pakistan. Take the risk of just _talking_ with Cuba and Iran and North Korea. In the Bush-created world of foreign policy where foreign policy is formulated independent of moral considerations, the moral barriers to talking with our enemies have been removed. The moral justification for embargoing Cuba is moot. The ban on travel to Cuba can no longer be justified because Cuba's government is immoral.


Posted by: JTS | Mar 25, 2008 1:49:55 PM

To describe Obama's proposed foreign policy I'll adapt a JFK comment:
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall not pay anything, won't bear any burder, won' meet any hardship, nor support any friend, nor oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the succes of liberty."

I'd say God help us but Obama has never said he believes in America, God, courage, etc. just that he will give us hope, change, hope for a change, change for hope, change & hope ad nauseum but that is all. LeBaron


Posted by: Le Baron | Mar 25, 2008 1:51:24 PM

"After eight years of George Bush, when the next president puts his or her hand on the Bible to be sworn in, the U.S. is going to get one brief second look [from the world] about whether the U.S. truly learned to change from its past mistakes, recent and historic, and whether we're again the kind of America people look to lead in a constructive fashion, or whether we're hopeless."--Susan Rice



Obama's rather self-conscious foreign policy doctrine (Please like us world, please, please, we're not Bush) is at best an overcorrection and over reaction to the George Bush years. What Obama and his foreign policy team refuse to appreciate is that the world's view of America has changed permanently and the world has moved to form its own economic regional blocks and alliances while Bush made war. America is the odd man out these days as the rest of the world has gone on to find other playmates. The world is not this static chessboard that has been frozen in place while America flounders about. The superpower moment is gone, its like seeing the facade ripped away and finding a creaking leaky mansion. All but the most desperate countries such as Chad or Afghanistan will line up to be recipients of Obama's dignity charity. Try putting "Western" style madrasas in Pakistan and see how far that goes. Hillary Clinton's much less flashy foreign policy empahsis on renewed multilateralism through the United Nations, a reinvigorated Nato and other global organizations, is much more realistic, cost efficient, and honest about America's new diminished role. In any case Pakistan would probably accept United Nations help for its educational system quicker than it would the gift of Americanized madrasas courtesy of President Obama. The world has changed, its all about global neighborhood action and having groups of friends rather than the great benevolent sole superpower doling out dignity candy in exchange for good behavior. For one, candy is also available from China and others. Secondly, I suspect America will not be in a position to dole out much free candy until its financial house is put back in order.


Posted by: exo | Mar 25, 2008 1:54:19 PM

Thank you for this piece. This discussion is just beginning, since the mainstream media is still too busy trying to figure out the full meaning and value of Obama's speech on race to realize that his speeches on the following two days laid out some of the boldest foreign policy proposals of any campaign in recent memory and rightly connected them to the matter of addressing our *many* domestic crises. For those who think Spencer didn't address everything, try going to Obama's web site to see and judge for yourself:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/foreignpolicy/

And for those questioning Molly Weasley, perhaps it's better to say that more military families are contributing to Obama's campaign. That's probably because they believe that he won't compromise his judgment to put their loved ones in harm's way because of incompetence or fear of losing an election. As Spencer alluded, the Project for a New American Century and neo-cons were cooking up the Iraq invasion since as early as 1997. This was no conspiracy or secret, as position papers on their web site clearly show:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqmiddleeast2000-1997.htm

It shouldn't take a U.S. Senator or President of the Harvard Law Review to see through the Bush admin's lies. There were plenty in Congress, the intelligence community, military top brass, and Bush's own cabinet (including Colin Powell), who knew it was a mistake to go along with Rumsfeld's folly. And now we are paying a heavy price. Had enough?


Posted by: CG | Mar 25, 2008 1:57:37 PM

Dear Mr. You Have To Be Kidding

While I have, on occasion, been guilty of a typo, I couldn't make heads or tail of what you were trying to say.

Please complete your remedial courses before typing with the adults.


Posted by: Bob | Mar 25, 2008 2:04:02 PM

Obama is NEVILLE CHAMBERLAIN without the classy edwardian clothes......

America is finished if this terrorist-loving fake becomes president.


Posted by: G-dawgg | Mar 25, 2008 2:14:34 PM

"Freedom from fear "
"Freedom from want"

I wonder if millions of Afghanese freed from Taliban, and many more millions of Iraqis freed from a ruthless dictator qualify for enjoying freedom from fear.

I also wonder if spending billions of dollars to help the sub-Saharan Africa, the most successful foreign policy achievement of this administration, qualify for promoting freedom from want.

If the neo-cons can be accused of short -sightedness by promoting only democracy without promoting"dignity", then the foreign policy team of Senator Obama is equally guilty of being short-sighted by concentrating only on "dignity' without doing the hard work of promoting democracy.


Posted by: jp | Mar 25, 2008 2:18:43 PM

Wow the goal of Obama's foreign policy

"to fix the conditions of misery that breed anti-Americanism and prevent liberty, justice, and prosperity from taking root."

1) that it will take the promotion of global free trade policies to achieve economic prosperity .... of course Obama is against free trade and wants to rip up NAFTA.

2) that will require removing US support for Israel the root of Muslim anti-Americanism .... maybe Obama agrees with Wright and Farrakhan

3) a neccessary condition to achieve freedom requires democracy ... this will require policies promoting democracy, such as maintaining security in Iraq to allow democracy to take hold not abandoning Iraq to muslim extremists who want to continue the misery.


Obama's rhetoric is not matched with his policy prescriptions. His team is offering more of the same blame America policies that started this mess when Jimmy Carter allowed the muslim extermists to take over Iran. That was supposed to end anti-Americanism.


Posted by: Bri | Mar 25, 2008 2:22:13 PM

Wow, here I thought that only Europeans were willfully trying to channel the spirit of Neville Chamberlain, but along comes Obama and company pushing their own Neo-Chamberlainian foreign policy. Appeasement didn't work back then and it won't work now. There are a slew of cultures and countries in the world where Obama's naive world view will be perceived as weak and ineffectual, which will encourage nations that perceive America (not Bush, not Clinton, not Obama, but America) as their enemy to act to humiliate us.

Before we fall on our swords in our folly, we would do well to ask the question of where will be our Rhineland or our Sudetenland.

Heck NObama.


Posted by: Drew | Mar 25, 2008 2:29:21 PM

Thanks for deleting the comment I posted at 1:57 PM. Censorship? Let's see if this one sticks...

Posted by: CG | Mar 25, 2008 2:30:37 PM

I AM TIRED OF READING ARTICLES THAT ARE OBAMA´S TEAM SPONSORED, OR OBAMA´S INFACTUATED JOURNALISM
I BELIEVE WHAT WE ARE READING IN MOST OF THE CASES IS NOT OBAMA´S REALITY, IS A MAKE-BELIVE THAT HAS FABRICATED OBAMA´S MACHINE


Posted by: STORY | Mar 25, 2008 2:36:04 PM

I don't think we need to "fix" what's wrong in foreign countries. I don't think we should meddel in foreign countries... it's NOT OUR BUSINESS TO DO SO. We have enough problems here at home.

But we need a strong defense system, and the need to overhaul the bureaucratic "homeland security" system, so that we have effective security in this country.

I like Obama's willingness to talk to any foreign leader, whether friend or "foe". And I think Obama would be an effective negotiator on behalf of this country.

AND, I trust Barack Obama, MUCH MORE THAN I TRUST HILLARY. In fact, I wouldnt' trust Hillary to put a nickle in my parking meter, let alone to be Commander-In-Chief !!!


Posted by: GET.REEL | Mar 25, 2008 2:49:20 PM

An excellent article. Whatever criticisms you might have of Obama - overly optimistic, naive, etc. - there's no arguing that our foreign policy has had mixed success at best, and has dangerously failed during the Bush administration. Can anyone name even two foreign policy successes by Bush?

The naysayers above are stuck in the past. Their criticisms fail to address the fundamental issue: why our current policies are ineffective. They are ineffective because they are dictated by special interests rather than the interests of the United States as a whole. People want a policy that is based on pragmatism -- what advances the interests of the U.S. in the most effective manner. Current approaches are frankly indefensible. Bush has allowed narrow agendas to influence our policy. Look at how right wing Christian goals have found there way into our foreign aid policy. This has hurt our interests.

Arguments that unilateral attacks on Al Quaeda in Pakistan will start a war miss the point. There is a fundamental problem that the world of nations has seen in the last half century. Insurgencies and guerilla wars are able to persist by living on the borders of nations. Cambodia, Vietnam, Colombia, many others, and now Pakistan/Afghanistan are examples. Insurgents hide behind the sovereignty of one country while launching attacks into another country. Bush set the precedent that harboring of those who would make war on us is itself an act of war. The Taliban in effect comitted the 9/11 attack by harboring and support Al Quaeda. We rightly intervened.

So, military capabalities aside, morally, what makes the Pakistan situation any different? Should we allow them to do what the Taliban did only because they are stronger? Terrorists and guerillas train and stage from Pakistan, attack Afghanistan (and Nato soldiers), and return the safe harbor of Pakistani sovereignty. Would we stand by if Canada did nothing while terrorists launched rockets from Canada into the US? NO!. Did we protest when Turkey went into Iraq to attack Kurdish guerillas? Hardly.

The past approach with Pakistan has not worked. Pakistan has chosen detente with radicals and terrorists at the expense of Afghanistan and those who support it. In action, they are not our friends. A clear line needs to be drawn: stop allowing your territory to be used for terrorism and guerilla warfare, or WE WILL.

The real failure of recent American foreign policy is fear of taking risk. This business maxim is applicable to foreign policy: nothing risked, nothing gained. We risked arming Europe with intermediate range nuclear missiles. We risked blockading Cuba. We risked aiding the Mujahadeen (how would USSR respond to their copters being missiled out of the sky en masse?). With these risks came valuable gains.

Take the risk of angering Pakistan. Take the risk of just _talking_ with Cuba and Iran and North Korea. In the Bush-created world of foreign policy where foreign policy is formulated independent of moral considerations, the moral barriers to talking with our enemies have been removed. The moral justification for embargoing Cuba is moot. The ban on travel to Cuba can no longer be justified because Cuba's government is immoral.


Posted by: JTS | Mar 25, 2008 2:56:26 PM

Call me mad, but I think I'd rather have a missle defense shield than "dignity promotion."

And, which culture's definition of "dignity" are we going to use? Certainly not the "G__ D___ American's".

How does "dignity promotion" differ from the "self-esteem" movement?

Which countries, specifically, have ever utilized "dignity promotion" as a successful foreign policy tool?

As an aside, my "dignity" was offended on 9-11. While Obama may believe that this was the result of our "chickens coming home to roost" my guess is that he's won his last election.


Posted by: Typical White Person | Mar 25, 2008 2:59:48 PM

Very telling that the left thinks a meaningless platitude like this represents "the most sweeping liberal foreign-policy critique we've heard from a serious presidential contender in decades": "I don't want to just end the war, but I want to end the mind-set that got us into war in the first place."

Uh, Spence, you are reading way too much into that.


Posted by: shecallsmemoe | Mar 25, 2008 3:03:58 PM

It is interesting that in a speech I attended a few years ago, Bill Clinton made some comments that appear to be in line with this "new policy". He called for building bridges, for improving infrastructure, for gaining a favorable impression of Americans to offset the very negative image held of us in many countries. I don't know that Hilary is in synch with that and even if she is, I don't see her "pulling it off". She is too quick to criticize and hesitant to take initiative in difficult situations.

I have not had the pleasure of meeting Senator Obama but I am very impressed with him, and how far he has come over the last year. A year ago I would have described him as well meaning but naive and with insufficient experience and judgement to lead the country. Today, I believe he is our best hope. He has shown the ability to learn and grow rapidly. He has demonstrated dignity, integrity, and grace. It appears that he is surrounding himself with intelligent, courageous, and innovative advisers.

I also believe that the world will give us a second look after the next election, and if Obama is who they see, they will give us a second chance.

The so-called patriotism that we have been indoctrinated with is extremely counterproductive. God Bless America, and no one else! We know best. Follow our lead. We can give you a moral compass. Trash! I certainly don't agree with Reverand Wright's phrasing or his conspiracy theories but I do believe there are times we should say, God Forgive America! Forgive us for the tragic waste of life, money, and reputation associated with the trevails in Iraq, for example.

I consider myself a loyal American but also consider myself a loyal citizen of the world. Other countries also have good people, good ideas, and valuable input. We strip their dignity by proclaiming our superiority. If Obama displays the same sensitivity to worldwide issues as he has with racial issues and other issues that divide us here perhaps he can help not only stimulate the healing process within our country but with other countries as well.

A policy of dignity, of respect, of dialogue, and of partnership would truly be transforming!


Posted by: Kirkrs | Mar 25, 2008 3:05:09 PM

I get it.

We need to work on raising the self esteem of other countries.

Which has worked really well as applied to the American school system hasn't it?

Are you people insane?

Of course we have nothing to fear. Radical Islam, other than Al Q, is just a figment of our imagination, or caused because our accomplishments make the other nations feel bad about themselves.

Are you people insane?


Posted by: M. Simon | Mar 25, 2008 3:06:05 PM

Obama = Neville Chamberlain???

This makes no sense. Obama would attack Al Quaeda wherever they are, including Pakistan. How on earth can that be equated with appeasement?

The dignity perspective is build in the assumption that governments, even non-democratic, derive their power from the people. By assuring that our efforts benefit people, we avoid the trap of being linked to a particular government. If we show ourselves to be friends of the Pakistani man on the street, then we need not worry about or interfere with the internal politics of the country.

Obama is not advocating appeasement or handouts, he is advocating focusing the resources and effort we already expend on things that matter to people struggling for a satisfying existence.


Posted by: JTS | Mar 25, 2008 3:12:07 PM

Ackerman needs to do research | Mar 25, 2008 1:44:27 PM

I have my ear to the ground in the Jewish community which normally votes 75% Dem. For all practical purposes those votes are gone.

I'm sure that will help Obama's chances for election.


Posted by: M. Simon | Mar 25, 2008 3:25:22 PM

Obama is against bombing our enemy Iran. He has a better plan.

He wants to bomb our weak ally Pakistan. What do you think that will do to the dignity of the Pakistanis?

You have to give him credit for that though. A weak US Military will not serve his purpose.


Posted by: M. Simon | Mar 25, 2008 3:42:29 PM

The US Military has some very serious problems.

Reenlistment rates in front line units is 110% to 140% of requirements. Maybe Obama can fix that.


Posted by: M. Simon | Mar 25, 2008 3:46:42 PM

Interesting article, seems to have been well-researched, great to know the names of all the "brain trusters" associated with Barack Obama. I really enjoyed learning about Sarah Sewall's partnership with General David Petraeus. Hayden's criticism of a human rights center collaborating with a top U.S. general reminds me of the same disdain that far right wingnuts express toward John McCain's collaboration with Russ Feingold, Ted Kennedy and Joe Lieberman.

I actually like the idea of dignity promotion, and depending on how it's pitched, I don't think it necessary has to be perceived as "wussiness". As a Libertarian, my idea of promoting dignity has to do with promoting self-reliance, personal responsibility and a free market. But that's just me. It's also a concept shared much more by John McCain than by Barack Obama, who strikes me as a really well-spoken old-school Marxist at his core. We can listen to the Wright apologists who say that we shouldn't judge Obama by his pastor, but I tend to agree more with Thomas Sowell's article "The Audacity of Rhetoric" (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/post_25.html) on that topic. In other words, yes we can judge Obama by the company he keeps. The voters' judgment of Obama's carefully cultivated relationships with counterculture radicals, along with his inconsistencies on NAFTA, the timetable for pulling troops out of Iraq, and his decision to wage a very negative and race-focused campaign in spite of commitments to the contrary will probably carry far more weight than their ability to access and comprehend his foreign policy philosophy.

The fact that Obama's able to attract great thinkers is admirable, and we definitely need an infusion of great thought in our government as long as it isn't simply a rehash of old thought expressed in new language.


Posted by: Lagomorph | Mar 25, 2008 3:48:24 PM

Wow the goal of Obama's foreign policy

"to fix the conditions of misery that breed anti-Americanism and prevent liberty, justice, and prosperity from taking root."

1) that it will take the promotion of global free trade policies to achieve economic prosperity .... of course Obama is against free trade and wants to rip up NAFTA.

2) that will require removing US support for Israel the root of Muslim anti-Americanism .... maybe Obama agrees with Wright and Farrakhan

3) a neccessary condition to achieve freedom requires democracy ... this will require policies promoting democracy, such as maintaining security in Iraq to allow democracy to take hold not abandoning Iraq to muslim extremists who want to continue the misery.


Obama's rhetoric is not matched with his policy prescriptions. His team is offering more of the same blame America policies that started this mess when Jimmy Carter allowed the muslim extermists to take over Iran. That was supposed to end anti-Americanism.


Posted by: Bri | Mar 25, 2008 3:49:25 PM


The problem with the Obama foreign policy vision is that while well intended, it is dangerously naive.

Also, why does everyone in the Obama campaign continue to bring up its "goal" of "talking with Iran" as if this in itself constiutes some type of brilliant foreign policy strategy? The campaign never articulates a single foreign goal, other than hoping more people will like us if Obama is President.

When Obama people talk foreign policy, it's like listening to a bunch of housewives deciding who they will invite to the next coffee klatch.







Posted by: RC in OHIO | Mar 25, 2008 4:19:29 PM

As I read this, I'm watching C-Span's program on the implementation of DOD's AFRICOM since 2005. It is a dispersed military command structure that will build multi-service local facilities throughtout Africa. These facilities, run from Stuttgart, DE will have military, construction, cultural, intelligence and foreign aid capability. And built out from David Petraeus counterinsurgency field manual, not Obama's foreign policy brain trust.

Partisan Bush-bashing requires that he be belittled, scarified, and neanderthaled, but any research would show that the strategy described has already been in excution for 3 years. The only thing missing was the "Dignity Dispensary" sign over the door.

Launching an international feelgood campaign to dispense "Dignity" to oppressed peoples in Africa and the middle east will require Obama's brain trust to negotiate deals with hostile third world dictators, who want to keep their subjects at the edge of subsistance, under control.

They'll talk so long as you offer arms and enormous sums of money; the arms to solidify control, the money destined for Swiss banks, not their people. The customary blather apologizing for American imperialism and promising reparations will open their doors. Aside from a few highly publicized demonstration projects, not much will change for the indigenous people. I'd suggest a budget of about $10 trillion to get the appropriate "Frameworks" and "Understandings" documents signed up. Bring cash to the closing.

Obama'd better do better than what you've described or his support will be limited to the easily mesmerized.



Posted by: Robustus | Mar 25, 2008 4:28:43 PM

Obama and Clinton offer false promises, lots of empty rhetoric, appealing only to misplaced sentimentality, empty emotions and the promise of what they will GIVE AWAY THAT IS NOT THEIRS. They are both ORTHODOX LIBERALS who are hell bent on the destruction of the Constitution. JFK and Obama share one thing: naivety - exactly what the United States does NOT need. JFK took us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia. His Bay of Pigs was disastrous and killed those who were counting on the US. He did not end the war in Vietnam. He went to Dallas even though he had been warned not to go: hubris (one of the
many flawed traits of his brother Ted) at its most reckless, leaving our nation
vulnerable. He cheated on his wife and socialized with, at best, "unsavory" characters. Obama's socialist philosophy is unjust morally and legally because it defies our rights guaranteed under the Constitution, guaranteed if we fight to keep those rights. His foreign policy is naive, at best, and suicidal for us all. Obama has done NOTHING in his 6 years of "government service." His audacity is running for the presidency at all, especially considering his and his wife's hatred for our country.


Posted by: scarlettsnow | Mar 25, 2008 5:11:15 PM

I'm sorry, but I had to stop reading at the point where "democracy promotion" is dismissed as hollow sloganeering but "dignity promotion" is touted as a bright "future of American global leadership." RFLMAO

And I see we're back to poverty and lack of education as the root causes of Islamic extremism. Jimmy Carter redux. Feh.


Posted by: SukieTawdry | Mar 25, 2008 5:17:40 PM

Two comments:

1) I like the idea of "dignity promotion": I appreciate and support the desire to address "conditions" that "prevent liberty, justice, and prosperity from taking root." I agree that we have thought too litle about this in recent years and I would appreciate it if we come to see Obama 'put his money where his mouth is' and explicitly make the kinds of arguments that Kerrey, et. al, are somewhat more cautious in making, but which many Democrats apparently believe. I agree that the Democrats will not be come credible about foreign policy by being "lite Republicans."

2) I am not comfortable with the apparent dismissal of the idea of "democracy promotion." The US is not simply a charitable organization. It has fundamental interests at stake that are tied to the promotion of democracy. Is it possible that the focus on 'dignity' rather than 'democracy' implies a focus on basic needs and a relative neglect of the political and civil forms that stabilize free and prosperous societies?

As Aristotle writes in Politics:

If the mind is to be reckoned as a more essentially a part of a living being than the body, parts of a similar order must equally be reckoned as more essentially as parts of the city than those which serve its basic needs. By this we mean the military part, the part concerned in the legal organization of justice, and (we may also add) the part engaged in deliberation, which is a function that needs the gift of political understanding.


Posted by: Barak Epstein | Mar 25, 2008 5:58:50 PM

"Realizing that the war on terror is, at its base, a propaganda battle, and one where our deeds have to back-up our words is I think the central insight here. This goes hand-in-hand with Obama, e.g., calling for aid to Pakistan not just militarily but in building western-style schools"
Umm...we have westsern-style schools in this country (the US of A) and they are not exactly a "shining-light". Theory of it sounds good, but just how practical would it be to do something like that when we can't even remedy a poor (at best) school system at home?


Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 25, 2008 6:18:39 PM

Great article. This - the change of the mind-set - is the fundamental point of difference between Obama on one side and Clinton, McCain, Bush and Cheney, on the other. This is our once in a life time chance for radical departure from the current doctrine based on arrogance and an absolute disregard for human life (it is called "collateral damage", as long as it is not our civilians who are dying). I hope America will have a wisdom to give peace a chance. Talking to our enemies, spreading a good will, demonstrating that US help is not just a cover for enhancing US corporate profits (loans to nations for buying arms from US corporations, loans to African nations to buy overpriced drugs from US corporations, etc), rejecting and denouncing "humanitarian bombing" and other criminal tools of US foreign policy, ...this, not just withdrawing from Iraq is the way to change the world and make this country safe again. Thank you for the article.

Posted by: PDSimic | Mar 25, 2008 6:27:36 PM

The short answer is NO. Though I am reflexively a Democrat I will not under any circumstances vote for Obama. First I cannot support someone who would tolerate either his preacher's anti american racist attitudes or his wife's similar anti-american rebuke. I'm liberal but not suicidal. And I know this sounds terriable but I can't get past his middle name. Also the fact that his is the darling of the media doesn't help him.

McCain is an honorable man who has served his country. I disagree with him on some issues but I can overlook that rather than elect a bigot who hates his own country.


Posted by: M | Mar 25, 2008 6:49:39 PM

Not the Change I am looking for!!!!

I am sure this article will appeal to the liberals, it was full of glowing fluff and lacks any real substance; ahh the essence of liberalism, feel good politics.

I have tried to find any substance in this article:

So BHO wants to spend Millions on "Dignity" around the world, because that will magically prevent our country from further attack???

BHO is way further left from Carter in foreign policy and wants to move us towards more money for the developing world (Africa) and less funding for our brave military...

BHO wants to ignore Pakistani Sovereignty and Violate is Boarders en'mass. the country is already unstable that would push it into Muslim Chaos. But would instead talk to Iran with hugs and Kisses??

Iraqi's can now shop and conduct their lives safely, which I think is part of Dignity but you want to abandon them, immediately ???

You Obamabots are waiting breathlessly for what this "new direction" will take us, let me spare you some brain cells.

Carter's foreign policy was the largest disasters in modern American history and sowed the seeds of Islamic Iran, mostly because America's enemies perceived she was weak.

I for one am not willing to risk Obama's Suicide foreign policy plan for my children.

I will not drink the Obana Cool Aid its poison.






Posted by: Vote for Pedro | Mar 25, 2008 8:29:53 PM

The speech of Barack Obama on foreign policy seems very naïve to me. The global problem of jihadist terror cannot be solved with the childish recipes offered by Obama. The jihadist terror does not grow out of poverty but from the religious hatred that millions of Muslims harbour toward the infidels (i.e., the Jews and the Christians).

Posted by: lionheart | Mar 25, 2008 8:39:29 PM

The foreign policy of dignity has a lot of appeal. And it is probably a good idea as well. Unfortunately our enemies won't find it all that appealing. They'll find that it means that the US is backing down, as it usually does, as they expected from the beginning.

The problem is that the basis of dignity is security. Obama lacks the credentials to be convincing here. McCain has the credentials Obama lacks. A McCain presidency will make it clear that we're serious about security and in the fight to the end. Once the rest of the world knows that, dignity will follow naturally, without any academic deep thinkers theorizing about it at all. It will happen simply because once people are secure they can protect their own dignity with no help at all from Obama and his academic deep thinkers.


Posted by: Roque Nuevo | Mar 25, 2008 8:40:57 PM

Greetings from neo-realism land! Some questions about the Obama policy.

http://www.nixonblog.com/?p=392


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Charming article, but a little behind the curve, it would seem. Exactly how do we discuss foreign policy in the modern world with no reference to China?? Where does Ackerman imagine this nice-guy foreign policy is going to lead in Asia? Obama is good for Walmart, not so good for those who refuse to compromise with Chinese fascism.

Posted by: Lawrence McDonnell | Mar 25, 2008 11:28:44 PM

Obama's team has offered nothing more than a bunch of fluffy buzzwords which stand for, "Maybe they'll like us better than Bush."

If our collective priority focuses upon getting the rest of the world to like us, then it's not hard to see why America is losing her luster. Leadership is not about being liked.

And for that nimrod who posted the old liberal stand-by about "Tax cuts for the rich"? Who the hell do you think pays most of the taxes in this country, you dolt??


Posted by: Ricardo | Mar 25, 2008 11:36:11 PM

The world long ago went into a new and dangerous phase. Call it (as I did two decades ago), the Age of Annihilation. We have new generations of people who do not crave respectability, order, peaceful self development. They are most at home in a dangerous chaos, and often will do what they can to foment chaos.

Okay, an effort to bring people back from the edge of this abyss might represent a honorable initiative. But one must understand that the effort is likely to be largely unavailing in a world where there are literally billions, some even within the majority population of first world countries, who must resort to forceful action as means of asserting the integrity of their identities.

It is in this view, in his faith in the capacity and willingness of masses of people around the world to embrace an orderly process of aspiration and upward mobility, that Sen. Obama most reveals himself as mentally an upwardly mobile modern Africa living in a Western country.

No, not everyone is like him, and America cannot live with a foreign policy which assumes that everybody in the world either is or wants to be.


Posted by: Mike Field | Mar 25, 2008 11:42:17 PM

Yes, "M," that sounds dumber than a 5th grader--and if Obama's middle name is enough to sway you to McCain, you're not much of a Democrat.

Posted by: JP | Mar 25, 2008 11:50:11 PM

SEN. OBAMA IS AS SEN. OBAMA DOES

"Despite their differences in the past (Obama opposed the war, while Clinton voted for it), ...." This mispeak is repeated over and over but the question remains, if Senator Obama did in fact oppose the war why didn't he vote against it like the other Senators who opposed it? There is the further question - why did he subsequently support the war by voting for budgets, the Patriot Act and similar legislation promoted by Bush?

Senator Obama's opposition to the war is similar to his opposition to Rev. Wrights's racism. In both cases his actions were that of tacit approval.


Posted by: Outrider | Mar 26, 2008 12:09:14 AM

All of this sophisticated mumbo jumbo is the whole problem. PH.d'ers.... you've had decades of chances. It's time for sensible and practical solutions. Maybe ask a 5th grader.

Posted by: KDH55 | Mar 26, 2008 12:19:22 AM

I will vote for Obama. For all of you critics, your children and children's children will be learning his speech in high school.

Posted by: DavidS | Mar 26, 2008 1:54:56 AM

One quote says it all:

"Do I not destroy my enemies when i make friends of them?"

Abe Lincoln


A real Republican.

As opposed to this guy:

Bush- " be very afraid!"


Posted by: Rob L. | Mar 26, 2008 12:10:28 PM

SEN. OBAMA WILL "STAY THE COURSE"

The Obamaphile who authored this piece used Obama's statement - "I don't want to just end the war, but I want to end the mind-set that got us into war in the first place." - upon which to build his argument that Obama was offering a new foreign policy doctrine. Shortly thereafter he wrote that Obama's foreign policy advisors stated that "(A)n inextricable part of that doctrine is a relentless and thorough destruction of al-Qaeda." There is nothing new there. That has been a part of Bush's foreign policy for the last six years.

I think we should change the mind set of those responsible for the mind set of the terrorists. We could start with the neocons, the media heads, and the elite members of the military/industrial complex, most of whom seem to be supporting Senator Obama.



Posted by: Outrider | Mar 26, 2008 12:39:39 PM

"'He goes back to Roosevelt,' Power says. 'Freedom from fear and freedom from want. What if we actually offered that? What if we delivered that in the developing world? That would be a transformative agenda for us.' The end of the Iraq War mind-set, it turns out, may be the beginning of America's reacquaintance with its best traditions."

Not to quibble, but Roosevelt had two freedoms that Power doesn't mention: freedom of speech and freedom of religion. It's easy to see why the focus is on freedom from want and freedom from fear, but Roosevelt gave the other two equal billing. Are they in our out of the doctrine?

Whatever the answer to that question, Obama's circle do have the substance right, but they're uncharacteristically tin-eared when it comes to the sound bite. Dignity promotion? Yes, it's short enough for a bumper sticker, but it's vague, pious, politically correct in the worst sense and clunky to the point of leaden. And it could be mistaken for the kind of pat on the back an employer might give by changing someone's title and leaving his or her salary the same.

Why not call it, instead, fostering the four freedoms? Explicitly harking back to one of our very greatest presidents would suggest, accurately, how deeply rooted in America's best traditions, as you say, this powerful doctrine is. How could McCain be against it? And focusing on all four freedoms instead of just two would forestall carping about cherry-picking.


Posted by: Richard Goodyear | Mar 26, 2008 1:36:56 PM

Obama seems to be pretty cocky about being the only one who was against the war in Iraq. However, to understand the logic behind the invasion of Iraq one should read the March 24, 2008 Wall Street Journal Lead Editorial about Saddam's Terror Links. The article clearly shows one of the primary reasons President Bush went ahead with the invasion of Iraq post 9/11 was Saddam's links to terrorists. Obama makes the arguement that the world would be better off if Saddam was still in power. However, given Saddam's links to terrorists a strong argument could be made that if Saddam was still in power, he would be thumbing his nose at us and actively producing weapons of mass destruction that he would be providing to terrorists. However the fact is Saddam is gone from Iraq and the US has made a commitment to the Iraqi people that we will protect them from Saddam's insurgents and Al Qaeda in Iraq. So number one if we leave Iraq now we will have betrayed our trust to the people of Iraq who have supported us and thousands could perish. Number two, we would be leaving Iraq in the hands of Al Qaeda who will be free to use Iraq as a base from which to attack the West. So when Obama and his supporters say lets get out of Iraq now with no thought of the consequences to the Iraqi people and to us it is very scary. The fact that Obama brags that he is the only one who had the vision to oppose the Iraq war is even more troubling given what the world would be facing now with Saddam still in power . Saddam would view the the US as a "paper tiger"and he would have no fear of pursuing his threats against the West. By the way, the description of the US as a "paper tiger" is Osama's description of the US after the U.S. retreat from Somalia in 1993. Just what will Osama think of the US if we likewise retreat from Iraq as Obama is proposing? My guess is the Osama would be applauding Obama's decision to withdraw from Iraq and gathering his forces in Iraq for the purpose of launching more attacks on us. In reality, Obama sounds a lot like Neville Chamberlain who promised "peace in our time" via the type of appeasement tactics Obama is proposing. As a result of Neville Chamberlain's naivete WWII was fought and millions perished. Just hope Obama is not another Neville Chamberlain?





Posted by: thinktwice | Mar 26, 2008 4:46:06 PM

If Obama is elected president, he will inherit a weak US--financially set for a downward adjustment, militarilly exhausted. It is in no position to lead the world. He will have to work with numerous other states, both for immediate US goals--security from terrorism, economic stability, and broad global ideals. So I cannot help but be struck that this entire article did not so much as breathe the words 'Europe' or 'China' or 'the UN' or even 'international community'. Are any of Obama's advisors aware that the US lives in a world with countries besides a few hangouts of Al Quaeda and some potential recruiting grounds for same?

Posted by: Steven Sherman | Mar 26, 2008 7:23:46 PM

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Posted by: wow gold | Mar 27, 2008 7:51:59 AM

"Dignity promotion," feh. Fine words butter no parsnips, so let's talk policy.

Will Obama sign on to The Responsible Plan? Or will Hillary be first?


Posted by: lambert strether | Mar 27, 2008 10:06:51 AM

What you're describing is the same philosophy laid out by former Bush Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill in Ron Suskind's "The Price of Loyalty."

Obama can't yell dibs, this idea has been around as long as I can remember.


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Posted by: votenic | Mar 27, 2008 1:02:50 PM

This is pretty disingenuous.
'Wanting to end the mind set that led us to war'

It's called getting rid of the republicans. Something every democrat has known for five years now.

But as usual with Obama he plays the popular a curse on both houses bit that's so popular with DC insiders.

How long will Obama's game of blaming democrats last? It sure won't work once he's in office if he wins.


Posted by: Buzzcook | Mar 27, 2008 1:23:00 PM

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