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Corey Chapman

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Major Changes Coming!
03/3/06 at 05:32:56

The developers are working hard on YaBB 2. There are many major changes coming. You can see some of them by using this forum regularly, as we regularly update to development code here.

Just a few of the changes coming in the next release of YaBB 2 include:
- new error handling methods with full language strings and a separate error.lng
- more friendly errors
- emails split into emails.lng for easy editing
- optimization of languages
- RSS functionality in all boards to provide a newsfeed link
- encrypted usernames for security
- rearrangement of code for speed
- login with display name or email address too
- Skype setting in profile
- required to make display name different than username
- more XHTML compliance
- email editor
- admin ability to set default profile options
- PM buddylist

All that being said, we need your thoughts on progress. There are two ways to help. You can follow CVS code on Sourceforge and bug test it like crazy. You can also test this forum.

Thanks and happy YaBBing!

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AntonioK Jr. Support Team Mooooo! Posts: 558 Gender:	Re: Major Changes Coming! Reply #1 - 03/03/06 at 10:13:53 Quote: required to make display name different than username Oh. It would be hard to understand for some users. Will it could be turned off by admin?
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Spikecity

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Re: Major Changes Coming!
Reply #2 - 03/03/06 at 13:00:27

Quote from AntonioK on 03/03/06 at 10:13:53:

Oh. It would be hard to understand for some users. Will it could be turned off by admin?

It's not a strict rule, but during registration and profile change users are encouraged to not have the same displayed name as their login ID making guessing of a login account more difficult.

In the current public release the screenname defaults to the user ID, and if you register now you have to separately fill out a display name.

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macprime YaBB Newbie Mr. macprime himself Posts: 46 Gender:	Re: Major Changes Coming! Reply #3 - 03/03/06 at 13:03:52 RSS! Yes! I love all of you YaBB-Team!
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George Maschke

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Re: Major Changes Coming!
Reply #4 - 03/03/06 at 18:32:32

Corey,

This is very welcome news!

Regarding RSS feeds, you mentioned "RSS functionality in all boards to provide a newsfeed link." Does this mean that each forum on a message board can have its own RSS feed? If so, will it be possible to have just a single RSS feed for a message board that includes recent posts from all of the board's forums?

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Re: Major Changes Coming!
Reply #5 - 03/03/06 at 18:54:08

Quote from George Maschke on 03/03/06 at 18:32:32:

Corey,

This is very welcome news!

Regarding RSS feeds, you mentioned "RSS functionality in all boards to provide a newsfeed link." Does this mean that each forum on a message board can have its own RSS feed? If so, will it be possible to have just a single RSS feed for a message board that includes recent posts from all of the board's forums?

Ask AK108, he is the spiritual father of the RSS gizmo in the next release Wink

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Corey Chapman

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Re: Major Changes Coming!
Reply #6 - 03/03/06 at 19:27:43

Quote from George Maschke on 03/03/06 at 18:32:32:

Corey,

This is very welcome news!

Regarding RSS feeds, you mentioned "RSS functionality in all boards to provide a newsfeed link." Does this mean that each forum on a message board can have its own RSS feed? If so, will it be possible to have just a single RSS feed for a message board that includes recent posts from all of the board's forums?

Yes. On this forum here, see on the very bottom left of the message index there is a link to "RSS feed for this board" which links to something like http://www.yabbforum.com/community/?action=RSSboard;board=general Wink

I'm still in discussions with AK108 to tweak this feature so the feeds are more useful though.

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George Maschke

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Reply #7 - 03/03/06 at 19:41:32

Corey,

I think there is some confusion between the terms "board" and "forum". In my usage, a message board is composed of different forums. The text "Forum name" that appears on the YaBB index page suggests such usage. But it appears that in your usage (and the YaBB team's), a message board is actually composed of "boards," not "forums."

On a relatively low-traffic message board such as my own, a single RSS feed that simply includes the most recent posts for the entire message board (as listed in the Forum Statistics section) would be adequate (and, in fact, preferable). A separate RSS feed for each "board" would be overkill.

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AK108 YaBB 2 Developer I love developing YaBB 2! Posts: 929	Re: Major Changes Coming! Reply #8 - 03/03/06 at 19:59:38 The board-level RSS feed is what I've done so far. I might do a complete forum-level RSS feed too (in fact, I probably will given the demand).
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George Maschke Full Member Posts: 137	Re: Major Changes Coming! Reply #9 - 03/03/06 at 21:00:41 Quote from AK108 on 03/03/06 at 19:59:38: The board-level RSS feed is what I've done so far. I might do a complete forum-level RSS feed too (in fact, I probably will given the demand). That would be very useful! Thanks in advance!
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JB82 YaBB Newbie I love YaBB! Posts: 24 Gender:	Re: Major Changes Coming! Reply #10 - 03/04/06 at 04:25:05 Hello Corey Chapman, Quote from Corey Chapman on 03/03/06 at 05:32:56: - encrypted usernames for security I don't want this for my forum. Will it be disableable? many greetings, Jens
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Re: Major Changes Coming!
Reply #11 - 03/04/06 at 04:57:55

Quote from JB82 on 03/04/06 at 04:25:05:

Hello Corey Chapman,

I don't want this for my forum. Will it be disableable?

many greetings, Jens

No, but admins will see the real ID anyway.
As having masked user ID's is the standard for every modern BBS by now (we actually are one of the last to go over) it's not an option but a must to stay on top of security.

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Re: Major Changes Coming!
Reply #12 - 03/04/06 at 05:12:20

Hello SpikeCity,

Quote from Spikecity on 03/04/06 at 04:57:55:

No, but admins will see the real ID anyway.

sorry, but that's not what I need. I use the Cookies made by the YaBBforum to identify the user surfing on my side. This way I don't need another User-Management-System, because I just need the one delivered by the forum! But a "Hello 9CB8B0B1AAA7ACB6BA49, welcome back" is not good, is it? Therefore, I asked for the possibility to switch this function of.

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As having masked user ID's is the standard for every modern BBS by now (we actually are one of the last to go over) it's not an option but a must to stay on top of security.

I do understand this and -of course- I do agree that YaBB is one of the best ones. But I think that it is not bad for the YaBBforum at whole, if an option, that is considered as a must-have, can be switched off.

many greetings, Jens

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Reply #13 - 03/04/06 at 05:17:44

Jens,

I understand your problem but as the subroutines are open source you could easily reuse the &decloak subroutine again to decode the ID for other scripts.

There is actually no choice as the coding/decoding is integrated everywhere, however it is only the surface layer (so the visible one).
Internally the whole board still works with good old readable ID's.

But look at boards like SMF, they user cryptic ID's everywhere and a user is refered to as u=123456 or some number.

The decoding of the ID is a simple shifted HEX/ASCII routine of 5 lines so it should not be too hard to re-use and the content of the cookies is exactly the same as it is now so no worries about using cookies, nothing changed there.
Just check the cookie you got from this board and see that there is nothing crypted there other then the password and the session id

To show you the present cookie, taken from my dev board:

Quote:

Y2User-61617
admin
www.spikecity.net/
1536
1638612992
32111473
598524144
29746111
*
Y2Pass-61617
*****************
www.spikecity.net/
1536
1638612992
32111473
600714144
29746111
*
Y2Sess-61617
********************
www.spikecity.net/
1536
1638612992
32111473
600874144
29746111
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JB82

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Re: Major Changes Coming!
Reply #14 - 03/04/06 at 05:58:19

Hello Spikecity,

Quote from Spikecity on 03/04/06 at 05:17:44:

I understand your problem but as the subroutines are open source you could easily reuse the &decloak subroutine again to decode the ID for other scripts.

thats right, but I am using php and have no experience with perl, so i was not lucky if i have to lern perl as well Wink

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Internally the whole board still works with good old readable ID's. [...] and the content of the cookies is exactly the same as it is now so no worries about using cookies, nothing changed there.

That's great, so nothing to change

many greetings, Jens

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