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Nevex
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posted October 08, 2000 06:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe i stated I read somewhere that black scar dropepd them. But my curent belief is stil telendor on the burning embers. Black scar is not wurmkind and hardly noteable. Wouldnt you say talendor is of the notable wurmkind and very close by?

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Saracen
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posted October 08, 2000 07:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've completed the Torn Pages segment, and the Words of Mastery Segment, and I also have all 4 Powers.... but Walnan is not spawning. I spent my total time in EQ for 3 days running now in Butcherblock killing Happ Findlefinn and pet and casting Sense Summoned, and nothing. After petitioning on my server (Tarew Marr), the Guide told me they had no way of knowing if the spawn was broken (read: Guide was feeling lazy, didn't bother to ask the GM at the time), but that he would report it in his nightly report. Not good. I decided to stop wasting time until Walnan's spawn can be confirmed or fleshed out some more, and continue on with the rest we know so far.

One idea I've had that I thought I might mention is that Kihun Solstin (the Element of Air quest giver) mentions searching the "world below [the Plane of Air] for an Elemental Binder". The way it's referred to, it could either be an enemy or an item... I'm thinking perhaps The Hole, a rare spawn somewhere in there might be "an Elemental Binder", seeing as there are already "Elemental Crusader"s and "Elemental Warrior"s...why not a Binder? I'll investigate that as soon as I can.

One quick note on Tarbul Earthstrider (the Element of Water Hill Giant), he should be nearly solo-able for a level 50+ Mage. I killed him tonight in a group of 3, we didn't even break a sweat. He's got a lot of HP, but doesn't hit all that hard, and doesn't Summon. Nothing too serious. He was found this time on HG hill (to the right of the ramp to Highhold Pass, if you're facing the ramp in EK).

Good luck guys and gals, keep the info coming. :)

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ArchMage
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posted October 08, 2000 07:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The staff is still on inno. Someone got it on my server a week ago. It is one of inno's rarest drops. Hope this helps.

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Fabamana Mystaria
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posted October 08, 2000 08:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just talked to tiblner milnik yesterday ..
i dont know if they changed texts since start of this board but he states:
"the dirt of underfoot found on slix something or the other..." maybe this clears 1 point of the above


Fabamana Mystaria
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Soriak
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posted October 08, 2000 09:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Staff of Mastery earth is still the rare drop of Innoruuk
Didnt they say they would move it to a new mob? hmm one broken part more

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Vreminsk
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posted October 08, 2000 11:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's quite possible that Talendor does drop the burning embers, but if so, it would seem to not be a common drop. He was dropped on Innoruuk three or four days after the quests went live and no embers were dropped. Or, he might drop them, and it just wasn't implimented yet. Anyway, hope that helps.

Vreminsk Valkyre
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Mertisem
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posted October 08, 2000 12:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a thought, I was thinking about the "Notable Wurm Kind", And wouldn't those Venoumous Lampreys or whatever be included? they look alot like worms;so has anyone ever seen a named wurm like that?

Just trying to close the gap

GL MAGES~!!

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Mertisem
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posted October 08, 2000 12:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a thought, I was thinking about the "Notable Wurm Kind", And wouldn't those Venoumous Lampreys or whatever be included? Has anyone ever seen a Named Wurm like that?

Just trying to close the gap

GL MAGES~!!

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Mertisem
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posted October 08, 2000 12:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoops sorry about the double post

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Petoffen
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posted October 08, 2000 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petoffen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nevex, you didn't post that you just heard it somewhere, here's what you wrote in this thread:

"Ok guys stopping repeating crap, burning embers come off black scar plain and simple 3 were pulled off him
yesterday."

Please don't post things as fact you don't know are fact.

Sounds like we're back to square one on searching for them.

This Inny staff is enough to drive someone nuts - one of the many close calls I had was two nights in a row, with less experienced hate raids, Inny was fought and did not go down (as part of a week of camping him), the next day, the tiny raid called in a big guild to kill him, he had the staff, and of course it was theirs... it's been a long time trying for this staff.

Note on Walnan: last night she was not up at midight, but I checked back until 3AM and she was up. Then I heard at about 9AM she is up again. I've heard some rumor about killing something at the dock making her spawn, and know there were people killing dwarves there...

[This message has been edited by Petoffen (edited 10-08-2000).]

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AbMagFab
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posted October 08, 2000 02:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, here's what I personally have completed:
1) Got all the torn pages in Najena, stayed in the jail area, and they all dropped from female mages. Arkstaff was killed while I was there, but had spawed again in a little corner by the time I was done, less than 4 hours

2) Got all the powers, pretty easy but spread out over Norrath. Can't for the life of me find Walnan, must be a triggered spawn. Tried turning in the coin to the guy in WC, but no luck on the spawn. Also regularly kill the Happ guy on the docks so I can use sense summoned, but never anything there. Have been trying for 3 days.

As for the other stuff, have done 3 hate raids recently, killed everything but Inny, and no staff anywhere, so it seems it still must only drop off Inny despite what the quest giver says.

That's all. Nothing new, just an update with real info from someone who has done a small part.

AbMagFab baFgaMbA
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Sendaar
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posted October 08, 2000 02:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we go back to the Air part, it says "In the world below". It means below plane of air, which should include Paw. There is a good chance that the Elemental binder is there, since no one hardly ever goes there.

My 2 cents, Sendaar

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Dameon
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posted October 08, 2000 04:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the Elemental Binder is an item rather than an NPC. What would the elemental have to bind? Sure you could say it would bind his fellow elemental comrades, but thats a bit far fetched. So, assuming the elemental binder is an item, has anybody tried killing some tough, out of the way mobs that nobody ever kills? Like say the paladin in Dagnor (nobody kills him because pally NPCs are *****es), or either of the Sphinxes in Rathe Mtns. (the Ankehtupeka or whatever and the the one on top of the hill)? It would be somewhat logical for verant to do this because those mobs didn't really have a purpose, and they're very tough for their level.

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Saracen
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posted October 08, 2000 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Might be able to clear up a couple things here.. First off, I believe that Tibler Milnik (the Earth quest giver) says something along the lines of "the minions of Innoruuk".. this could be ANYONE in Hate (including both Maestro and Inno himself). If you'll remember back a little ways, a player asked Verant why, after they killed Inno, he would respawn...seeing as there should only be one God of Hate. Verant's reply was that the Inno they were killing in Hate really wasn't the *real* Inno, but merely the representation of Inno in our world. As weak an explanation as that is, it would mean that everything in Hate could be considered a minion of Innoruuk.

As far as Walnan being triggered..I don't think that's right - over the course of the 3 days I've spent in BB, I think pretty much *everything* has appeared and died, and I don't think it would make too much sense to have to kill, for example, a Dwarf to make a High Elf appear. Just my 2cp.

Also, perhaps this is related to not being able to detect Walnan: When we killed Tarbul last night, he was untrackable. Our Ranger and Druid couldn't get him on tracking, even when he was right in front of them on level ground. Maybe they've made these quest NPCs undetectable to large area search methods, as bastardly as that would be. Just a thought.

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Saracen
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posted October 08, 2000 06:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, after all my complaining, Walnan did show up ;) Not broken, but EXTREMELY RARE. I guess that'll teach me to jump to conclusions. I found her just off to the path just before the docks in BB, on the side of a hill. I didn't remember to turn on logging, unfortunately, so I couldn't say what her /loc was. If you're on the path, and facing the docks (on the part of the path just before the docks), she'll spawn on the corner of the mountain to your RIGHT hand side, almost exactly across from that single-guard spawn.

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Ogdon
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posted October 08, 2000 08:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend got an Earth Mastery staff from Inno couple days ago.

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Silvas
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posted October 08, 2000 10:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Killed Innourrk about 27 times and he has never dropped an earth staff. Currently only one staff on our server. I wonder if the person that made the Magician Epic Quest knew how rare it is?

I sincerely hope they increase the drop rate on this item.

Good luck mages and keep your spirits high =)

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Sylok
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posted October 09, 2000 12:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes the staff is still dropping from Inny.
To whoever mentioned in a post above that Verant was suposed to have moved the loot to mobs of similar difficulty and rise the gods difficulty...Yes Verant said that, but has not implemented it yet. I read on an official post a couple days ago that the moving of the god's loot table was gonna be in a near future patch and is still not in game...just FYI

Sylok
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Petoffen
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posted October 09, 2000 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Petoffen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Latest I saw on the upgrading of Innoruk was Abashi saing they are still discussinng and haven't made decisions yet - we'll see if it makes it harder or easier to get the staff.

Remeber when they helped us by getting rid of the jboots drop we thought was so hard in Najena? Remember when GZ helped us when we though research was too hard by making spells mob drops instead? and so on.

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Ellidyr
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posted October 09, 2000 10:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was sitting around over the weekend and had a thought in regards to the Burning Embers.....Has anyone thought about Naggy?
I mean in EQ lore dragons and Wurms are nearly the same....And he doesn't say specifically to look for a wurm but a notable wurm-kind. Notable to me would indicate a WELL known being....and wurm kind instead of saying just wurm would indicate to me that it isn't a wurm but possibly a dragon. Lastly if you pay attention to the rest of that sentance he says that the notable wurm kind can be found a SHORT journey away.... I wouldn't consider Kunark a short distance. I would however consider Naggy's lair a short distance. Lavastorm/SolB? Let's also not forget this is part of a quest for the fire item, Naggy is the FireDragon so that makes sense too.

Has anyones guild killed Naggy since the FA quests started? Seems to me that he could be a likely target for such a drop, I mean it takes 4 groups or so to take him down so that would put the difficulty at the right area for such an item. Anyone have any thoughts on this?


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humag
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posted October 09, 2000 11:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They got the gold mine We(Mages) got the shaft just a little humor as I think we have been totally screwed on this one folks after seeing how easy the rogue quest was and looking at ours LOL i will be lucky if i have this when Luke Skywalker comes out

Humag 51 Magi Karana good luck all im gonna work on the 2 staffs and basically forget the rest of this BS

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Sahphire Phoenix
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posted October 09, 2000 11:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since the NPC who states that wanders the Skyfire Mountains where Talendor is found, yes, it would be a short distance away from him. Also, Nagefen is killed fairly often, prolly would have had some kind of report on it if it did drop on him. If it does drop on Talendor though, this could be an increadably tough part of our quest, it seems this Dragon has a nearly unresistable Fear spell which commonly locks up spellcasters.

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Ellidyr
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posted October 09, 2000 11:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blah, brain lapse....was thinking Jennus Lyklobar was in lavastorm and not Skyfire. So much for that idea.

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Khando
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posted October 09, 2000 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Khando     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My original post was in Quest Part I, so I will repost my IDEA.

Earth Guy wants everything that deals with earth/dirt/ground stuff. Earth Staff, Broom, Shovel, Dirt of Underfoot.

Water Guy want items that have a water theme to their name. Rain, Tears, Water Staff.

Fire guy want Fire items. Torch, Burning, Blazing, and the Tome of Rykas

Air guy seems to want items from flying mobs. Crown from Sphinx, Cloak from Pegasus, and Elemental Binder from __________.

I have been killing alot of Griffons even GrimFeather 3 times, so not sure what we are looking for, but I am thinking this binder will be dropped by a flying mob.

With 300,000 players playing EQ, it has to be on a mob that is not killed that much. Not sure about your servers, but the Dragon in Dreadlands on Quellious has not been killed or at least to my knowledge. I play ALOT so I normally know when dragons fall.

I wish to thank everyone that post ideas...even if those ideas have been posted before. It is nice that we Mages have a plac e to discuss our ideas.

Good Luck Mages. We might not have been the first one to complete our quest, but we also got screwed. This item better be worth it or we will cry like the shamans did =)

Khando Burnass
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Aurora
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posted October 09, 2000 02:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If we are looking for flying mobs that are not killed too often, then the two Sphinxes in Ralth Mt are indeed good places to look for the Elemental Binder.

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