Mercury in Vaccines: The Appalling Truth Revealed

"Oracknows" is David Gorski ... one of the several healthfrauds from
Barrett's very dubious and very discredited 'quackwatch' team:

http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Gorski

"autismdiva" and 'skeptico' are also selling quackwatch on their blogs
.... though I do not know who they are exactly yet.

Just like black people tortured by KKK members wearing masks ... if
they survived the attacks ... they may or may not have been able to
identify the perpetrators. That's why they use masks.

One of the posters told this story in his post:

"Please keep in mind that Big Pharma has plenty of hired guns in the
form of law firms and PR firms who are paid to conduct these attacks
on the Internet. We outed one on the parents.com autism help board
named who was banned once he was reported as a member of a law firm
team paid to conduct such attacks."




New discussion on Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblo...ursu_4612.html


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblo...let-_4561.html

Lively discussion on this topic on the Huffingon Post ... note how
many of the Rag-tag Posse Team are there ... hiding behind aliases ...
too ashamed to put their names to their lies.

Ilena Rose wrote:
> "Oracknows" is David Gorski ... one of the several healthfrauds from
> Barrett's very dubious and very discredited 'quackwatch' team:
>
> http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Gorski

OK - why do you say that?



> "autismdiva" and 'skeptico' are also selling quackwatch on their
> blogs
> ... though I do not know who they are exactly yet.

So you admit that in this case the accusation is unfounded.

--
00doc

I don't know who you are ...

But this I know:

David H. Gorski, MD posts on Usenet and in the BlogWorld using the ever
so humble, misguided moniker, "orac knows."

He has been actively participating ... asserting his authority as a
teaching surgeon ... while giving false information on Huffington Blog
and his own ... to name but two. Here are 2 threads on the subject ...
if they don't work on google ...you may write me and I'll send you the
links. Here are 2 where Gorski and the other two you mentioned all are
linked to the dubious and discredited quackwatch.com pages.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblo....html#comments

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblo...let-_4561.html

He is part of the quackwatch/ratbags Posse ... and you need only click
here to see him lined up with Probert and Langer and Nidiffer and
Dalefield ... to name but a few of the characters that are known here.

http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Probert

http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Langer

http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Nidiffer aka nanaweedkiller

http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Gorski aka 'orac'

Altho he calls his own blog 'respectful insolence' ... his vast
insolence is anything but.

He made the outrageously "intellectually dishonest" claim in the
Kennedy thread:

"Given that thimerosal hasn't been in vaccines since early 2003... "

Several vaccines still have thimerosal... and for the record ... the
rates in California are blessedly falling.

Using his typical ad hominen attacks on Dr. Wakefield ... he makes
denials about Autistic Enterocolitis as if he, a teaching surgeon,
should be considered 'the' authority.

He isn't.

One good explanation of The Case For Autistic Enterocolitis is found
here:

http://www.autisme-montreal.com/cong.../Krigsman.html

To deny that a subset of human beings react extremely negatively to
vaccines is pure propaganda ... and Gorski (orac) like the other
healthfrauds, typically rush to conclusions on ongoing medical
controversies such as this one.

On the Parents.com autism board ... a Vac Attorney was caught lying
about who he was and taking a strong stand ... similar to Gorski's ...
it was uncovered who was behind his disguise.

Gorski's professional website lists several insurance companies he is
promoting someway ... I have no doubt they have much at stake in this
issue.

So 00docdoc ... the 3 of the most vocal and attempting to lie about
their identities are all quackwatch related ...

Their little empire I hope is tilting ... they've ruled the Medical
Information for too long ... and using too many weapons of denial,
SLAPP suits, anonymous harassers, etc.

http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...ersvsilena.htm

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:39:52 -0600, Ilena Rose wrote:

> "Oracknows" is David Gorski ... one of the several healthfrauds from
> Barrett's very dubious and very discredited 'quackwatch' team:
>
> http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Gorski
>
> "autismdiva" and 'skeptico' are also selling quackwatch on their blogs
> ... though I do not know who they are exactly yet.
>

As for "autismdiva" one can just check who is the registered owner
of domain "autismdiva.org". I would not post the name here, anybody
can find out. It is a female, initials are C.C., she is not in this list.
It may be fake because the domain registrars do not check any information
besides clearance of the check.
But I found a web site where the same C.C. is introduced as the owner of
oddizm.com. And it is really registered in her name, so it looks real.
Interestingly, www.oddizm.com promotes "autismdiva". "You gotta love a
Diva who tells it like it is", C.C. praises herself pretending to be
somebody else. C.C. presents herself as a student of Psychology in
California. (And "Orac" who claims to be a scientist values
her opinions so much! Interesting, isn't it?)

Addition to my previous post.
On one web site
(http://www.autismspectrum.net/Deskto...aspx?tabid=255)
we can read about "C.C., an art history graduate student at the University
of California at Davis who has Asperger's Syndrome". That is July 2004.
On another (http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/elett...00/1154#106981)
she is participating in discussion of David Kirby's book and presents
herself as "undergraduate student psychology major UC Davis". This
is June 2005. Something is wrong.
She quotes "autismdiva". She indicates "no competing interests". Parents
of autistic children in the discussion show it as "competing interest",
why didn't C.C. mention her Asperger's? Not only would it be honest, it
would strengthen her point that autism does not necessitate mental
retardation. Something is wrong again, and maybe the name is not real
after all. But it looks like PR.

Big deal... I know exactly who they all are, and have corresponded amiably
by email with all three. Big deal. It is not a secret.





















Except to some.

00doc wrote:
> Ilena Rose wrote:
>
>>"Oracknows" is David Gorski ... one of the several healthfrauds from
>>Barrett's very dubious and very discredited 'quackwatch' team:
>>
>>http://www.ratbags.com/posse/whoarewe.htm#Gorski
>
>
> OK - why do you say that?
>
>
>
>
>>"autismdiva" and 'skeptico' are also selling quackwatch on their
>>blogs
>>... though I do not know who they are exactly yet.
>
>
> So you admit that in this case the accusation is unfounded.

Funny that KARLa ROVEnthal does not know who skeptico is. He tells
everyone right on his blog.

Also, note the persistent inquisitional attitude of KARLa ROVEnthal,
where is is obvious that she has the intent of outing anyone who
disagress with her, just like Karl did to Mrs. Plame.

And, she whines (correctly, though) about the administration getting us
into a moronic war in Iraq.

The level of outright hypocrisy is utterly astounding.

HCN wrote:
> Big deal... I know exactly who they all are, and have corresponded amiably
> by email with all three. Big deal. It is not a secret.
>
>
>
>
> Except to some.
>
>


However, when the intent is to trash someone because they cannot refute
them, then it becomes a big deal, especially to KARLa ROVEnthal.

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:yU4Ge.960$6%2.361@fe10.lga...
> HCN wrote:
>> Big deal... I know exactly who they all are, and have corresponded
>> amiably by email with all three. Big deal. It is not a secret.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Except to some.
>>
>>
>
>
> However, when the intent is to trash someone because they cannot refute
> them, then it becomes a big deal, especially to KARLa ROVEnthal.

But we know that based on her past activities the intent of KARLa is to
stalk rather than refute.

Nana Weedkiller wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:yU4Ge.960$6%2.361@fe10.lga...
>
>>HCN wrote:
>>
>>>Big deal... I know exactly who they all are, and have corresponded
>>>amiably by email with all three. Big deal. It is not a secret.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Except to some.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>However, when the intent is to trash someone because they cannot refute
>>them, then it becomes a big deal, especially to KARLa ROVEnthal.
>
>
> But we know that based on her past activities the intent of KARLa is to
> stalk rather than refute.

Stalk and trash. "Outing" is part of the overall definition of
cyberstalking, IMNSHO.