(1) How to locate teachers and violin shops:
Personally, I would never send a child to a randomly chosen teacher, no matter how highly recommended, without attending the lessons myself in order to determine if:
(3)
Issues regarding purchase of starter instruments.
At one point in time, several years ago when this FAQ was originally conceived, my recommendation was to rent a violin at first, in order to determine if the child would remain interested. However, based on experiences with my own private students and given the favorable economic climate between the US and China regarding Chinese instruments, many of which are fine instruments and quite good quality at exceedingly reasonable prices, my views have changed. Given that you can purchase a very decent starter violin for under $200 (viola, cello and bass are consecutively higher, of course, since they're larger instruments), it is more economically sound to just purchase such an instrument. If you work with a teacher the instrument can be sold when the child outgrows it, or traded in for a better and larger instrument. I think, now, that this is the way to go. It's simply that if you can purchase an instrument outright for the price of a few months rental, it's more sensible to purchase it.
The contributing factor in the change of my views is the quality of these instruments. Certainly there are still shoddy instruments, but there seem to be a lot of very nice instruments coming from China nowadays, which are beautiful to look at, play well, have no problems, come with a very attractive case and bow (also with no problems) and at reasonable prices. The bows come furnished with real horsehair; this once-dear stuff has now become so reasonably priced that one can hardly find synthetic hair any more.
NOTE: The advanced player, who is no doubt under the tutelage of an experienced teacher, doesn't need my help—aside from perhaps the admonition to play a lot of instruments in combination with bows, and find what pleases you the best, paying less attention to the price and more to the sound. Fine instruments are a major investment and many professional players spend decades paying off the instrument, acquiring it through a loan from a local musicians union or bank. Many players enjoy instruments given to them as gifts because of their exceptional abilities, but most players buy them or borrow them. As orchestras are ranked, in the top tiers the string professionals require instruments starting in the $30-$60K range.
(5)
Since I am left-handed, can I learn to play and have a violin fitted for playing in the opposite way? (In other words, with the G string to the right, and holding the bow with the left hand?)
Much like the question about adult learners, this question is very controversial, and I would hesitate to answer positively one way or another. The literature is really not designed for this, and the problems of adjustment in reaching higher positions seem overwhelming when you consider what the configuration would have to
be. It would require a re-fitting of the G bar inside the instrument, and a reshaping of the bridge, at the very least. I think a lot depends on what sort of music you want to play; there are very many areas of music where a left handed player would be at no disadvantage. I'm thinking of popular players in rock, C&W;, Jazz and other musics. I don't see it as a problem in those venues, though my knowledge in this area is limited. I do think that in so-called "art music," left-handed players are very rare, since the ensemble playing in orchestra or chamber music requires consistent bowings, and even consistency with respect to fingerings for uniformity of phrasing. I know of only one such player whom I encountered in a university orchestra, and do not know of any others.
While, oddly enough, the question of refitting the violin comes up rather often, this is, naturally, a separate issue from someone who is merely left-handed and wants to study the violin with a traditional hold. One player suggested that being left-handed is an advantage because of the requirements of the left-hand technique, and certainly there is nothing to prevent a left-handed person from taking up the instrument. My guess would be that the percentage of left-handed string players is the same as the percentage of left-handed people in the general population, though I have no hard data on this. If anyone has research on this and would like to contribute it, that would be great. See also: Playing the Violin and Fiddle Left-Handed.
(6) Requests to appraise an instrument.
This must be done by a reputable shop. I get
frequent requests about specific instruments, but that is not my area of expertise, and it cannot be done, people, over the internet without a direct examination from a reputable expert, which most violinists are not. Labels can and often are faked!!
People often write me about instruments with Stradivarius labels, violins which have turned up in an attic, closet, cupboard, or garage sale. The "Stradivarius" label often has a tiny copie de above the word Stradivarius, which means a copy of a Stradivarius, or an instrument built on that model. If repaired, these instruments may be good student instruments, but unfortunately, they're seldom or never valuable. What must be done in every case is to locate a professional repair person who can do an adequate appraisal.
(7) Are the violin and the fiddle the same instrument?
Well, yes and no, it depends. What it depends on is who's playing it, and in what cultural context you're speaking. Growing up in the midwest, I felt uncomfortable using the term fiddle, because what that meant, then, was country and western fiddle, and I wanted no part of that. However, you hear violinists of the highest calibre, like Stern and Perlman, for example, referring to the violin as a fiddle...but their cultural context is Eastern European, which included gypsy-like so-called "fiddle" music, which is not the same at all as the American genre. The instrument itself may be the same, though folk players of violin (and other players who are playing something besides art music) may take more liberties with respect to the way the instrument is held, its fittings, and so on. Aside from some small details, however, the instrument is pretty much the same; there is no separate genre, fiddle, which is not also a violin. I get asked this a lot.
(8) Can you give me some advice about how to play the "wiggly thing," i.e., vibrato?
This is one of those large subjects which would take a very long treatise to explain, and
really, since it would not be interactive (I could not see and hear what you're doing), impossible to do in so many words or less over the internet. You really need to go to a teacher, though reading about it can be helpful, particularly for teachers.
(9) What's the difference between the violin and the viola?
A lot of people ask this, particularly parents who are trying to help decide what instrument their child should study. One of the first things that musicians might think about in this connection are violin/viola jokes. The viola plays a
somewhat different role in the orchestra than the violins do, and there is some gentle and sometimes not-so-gentle teasing between the sections. Musicians' jokes aside, the viola is a somewhat larger (longer, heavier) instrument and it is a fifth lower than the violin (five pitches, in other words). Many string players play both instruments, making their careers more flexible in terms of what they can offer. I would encourage anyone to play viola; the literature is a little different, but the viola has a deep, gorgeous tone and is quite as wonderful as the violin. There have been many eminent viola players (Pinchas Zukerman is a great example, and he's a genius who also plays violin and conducts). You might want to take into consideration also, that if your child likes the instrument and wants to play it, and especially if the child is tall and has long arms and larger hands, the instrument may be an excellent idea; I think it's fair to say that fewer people are drawn to the viola and therefore
it may offer more opportunities for a child to play in school groups, and perhaps even later prove to be a career advantage. In the long run, both violin and viola are perhaps the most difficult of all instruments, and they provide immense advantages in terms of physical and mental training. See also The Much
Maligned Viola by Kim Kashkashian.
(10)
How can I determine if this violin is the right size for my daughter/son?
Regarding measuring children for violin or viola, there are two methods but the second probably works better and is more exact. At one time what we did was to stretch the child's left arm under the instrument, and have them grasp the scroll with their fingers wrapped around the scroll. If the elbow was slightly bent but not too bent or too straight, it was a fit. However, a more reliable method is to stretch the child's arm straight out under the instrument, and under the scroll, and if the instrument's scroll ends flush with the pulse, it is just right. According to the build of the student, it can be a little shorter or longer. A sturdy child can take a little longer; it will mean less bend at the elbow when they play--which is tiring but can be tolerable--but if the candidate is weak, then better not, and one chooses rather a little shorter instrument. This rule is for kids during the time they grow, i.e. until early teenage. For "grown ups" it no longer applies. Violins come usually short and violas usually long.
(11)
What is the best way to avoid being nervous at a jury or an audition?
(1) Prepare the music carefully, leaving nothing to chance. Everything should be so well prepared, you can play it cold, no matter what. This requires you to divide your practice up into "preparing time" and "performing time," a concept Galamian talks about in Principles of Violin Playing and Teaching.
(2) You should make an effort to tend to your health--that is, have had enough sleep, eat potassium rich foods like bananas, don't eat meat, fried foods or dairy (vegan is best, but at least avoid heavy foods), and exercise. But don't hurt your hands! I recommend walking, lifting light weights (I have a pair of 4 lb. Chinese barbells which I use regularly, lots of reps) and do yoga and stretching. Swimming is also good. Bicycling is good, but you can hurt your hands if you don't do it right, so be careful. Lots of fresh air and sunshine and positive thoughts.
(3) Be philosophical. Why do we study music? To make a big deal out of ourselves? No. If anyone does art to aggrandize themselves, they're doomed from the beginning. We do art to be in contact with the best human minds, to make beauty, and to express the best in humanity. We do it out of love. We do it because we can't do anything else. Given all that, so what if you aren't perfect? Only god is perfect. Do your best, give it everything you've got, and then make music and enjoy yourself. That's what counts. Forget yourself.
(4) Remember the little things which the listeners are going to be looking for (particularly if one of your listeners is a conductor), and which will indicate if your training is solid. These include stylistic accuracy, rhythmic integrity, attention to phrasing and dynamics, good intonation, and musical sensibility. Bach is different than Brahms. Dynamics don't just happen, you have to make them happen. Everything in the score is there for a reason. Plan the bowings and phrasing ahead of time (though some leeway is allowed for interpretive inspiration of the moment). This is all very hard work and time consuming, but don't blow any of it off and expect it to happen automatically when you go in to play. It won't.
Also see the following:
(12) What is the distinction between "weight" and "pressure" with respect to playing double (and triple) stops?
Galamian students (Davidovici, Luby, Bedelian--the three I studied with) relay to their students the notion, taken from Galamian (and from his teachers, one supposes, though I have not followed this through), the distinction between "weight" and "pressure" in bowing. In Galamian's
Principles of Violin Playing and Teaching , (Prentice-Hall, 1962), I located the exact passage (page 57):
What counts in tone production is not the amount of pressure used but, if one may so term it, the quality of the pressure. This is determined by the manner in which the pressure is transmitted. The main point is that it must not, under any circumstances, take effect as a dead weight, inelastic and inarticulate, that would crush the vibrations of the string or, at best, produce a tone of inferior quality. Instead the weight of the arm and hand and the pressure from the muscles should be transmitted through the flexible and well-coordinated system of springs, natural and artificial, which was outlined...
Thus students are warned to use "weight, not pressure," as I heard from my teachers over and over. A deeper examination of the whole chapter is recommended to clarify all the issues involved.
(13)
What is the best way to protect the violin from extremes of temperature and humidity?
(14)
How do I break into the music business (i.e., get gigs?)
Any or some combination of the following recommendations will probably work for you: (15)
What is best approach to producing smooth bow strokes? (16)
What technical routine do you use to stay in shape? (17)
How can I develop a private teaching studio? (18)
What is the usual progression of violin études? (19)
What is the best way to achieve good intonation in string playing? (20)
At what stage in students' development do they begin vibrato and shifting? (21) How can I recover if I lose an audition? POSTSCRIPT:
So in this, as in everything, there are no guarantees. One has to make choices and sometimes they are difficult. If a good player likes teaching, that is certainly an option, and freelancing, as well, provides opportunities to perform for a living, and freelancing does not require long-term commitments or painful auditions; often the jobs are given on the basis of past performance. If you can "sightread the bugs off the walls" and are an otherwise reliable player who does not mind travel, freelancing may be the answer. Even with freelancing, it takes years to develop contacts and the skills necessary to play in pick-up or back-up gigs. Everyone has to find their own combination of things to do, but there are certainly a lot of options, and one lost audition is only an audition.
(22)
Should a teacher who is primarily a violinist teach viola? (23) How can I determine the size of a violin (4/4, 3/4, etc.) if the label on the inside is missing? (and other violin measurements) (24) What are some of the techniques teachers use to approach beginning students?
I will be happy to attempt to explain these things, though they would be better demonstrated in person. Since my training for two terms at Chapel Hill was in '89-'90, these ideas probably go by other names. I'd love, also, to hear from other teachersI am sure there are thousands of such techniques used by teachers:
(25) How can I get my child to practice? (26) Why we play.
Sometimes there is a plastic vial (a humistat) which contains water and supplies humidity for the case. It clips in place somewhere down around the pegbox/scroll portion of the case and can be adjusted to allow more or less water vapor to escape. If there is not one of these vials accompanying the hygrometer itself, you can purchase a humidifier to put in the f holes of the violin. Both Strettos and Dampits seem to work well, although Dampits are more of a hassle since you have to resoak them frequently. Many musicians keep a humidifier in the music studio (aim for a steady 50-60% humidity), which protects stringed instruments and pianos.
Certainly there are players who question the usefulness of these products and wonder whether any kind of humidification is a good idea for string instruments, in terms of avoiding cracks. Humidifying an instrument in its case may be unnecessary except in extremely dry environments. It's conceivable that too much humidity could cause problems with insects and otherwise damage the wood. The constant changing of the moisture content of the wood can't be good for the instrument; if the maker has selected well seasoned wood, the best thing to do is let the instrument adjust to the prevailing humidity or lack thereof.
For example: like Italy, Los Angeles is classed as a Mediterranean clime by geologists. Violins sound better in L.A. then they do in the humidity of NYC, but players often don't have any problems- or use humidifiers. Dryness may be good for fiddles - avoiding extremes, of course.
INITIAL CONCERNS:
POSTSCRIPT:
Aside from the first, initial things, there are other, more controversial issues to talk about. These might include:
The musical life is a good life. You don't have to get dirty and you meet a lot of nice people. You're in the business of creating beauty, which is a noble way to spend your time. There is no end to what you can learn. And teaching, if you like it, is a joy - something you can do when you're old and you truly having something to share. Good luck!
Bring bow stroke up from the bottom wrist slightly bent up. Make sure the hair has a constant firm contact on the string. As you approach the upper part of the stroke and are turning around, kind of throw your fingers up to make the turn, lowering your wrist at the same time. At the top of the turn, squeeze the bow as you lower the top of your hand. Bring your hand down squeezing and gradually release as you reach the bottom. Then lead with the top of your wrist. Leaving the fingers behind, gradually bringing your fingers through the stroke to end up top again to make the next turn. It's like driving your care around a corner, you don't stop, but bring it around smoothly. Watch the hand and wrist of good players.
A violinist offered: Being a lowly doctoral student, I hesitate to add my comments to this discussion, but feel they may be appreciated by the students among us. I have a regime that I have developed to focus on the weak areas in my playing as well as improve and maintain the technique I already have. It depends on the day I do it and my ability or need to focus on certain aspects, but the regime takes approximately 1 hour and 15 minutes to complete (As little as 1 hour and 15 up to 1 hour and 40):
This generally completes my technique for the day and I am usually ready to tackle anything.
Important question, especially for those of us whose income is primarily from teaching and performing. Mimi Butler has two good publications which address these questions, and I highly recommend them. There is a link to these materials in Mimi Butler's listing in the Teacher Directory: click on "workshops."
Also see:
My recommendations also include:
There are other ideas, I am sure. I like Mimi's materials, and there is another small pamphlet you can purchase, Milana Leshinsky's 77 Ways to Build Your Private Music Practice.
Ms. Sunday: In terms of the beginning series of études, Suzuki purists may disagree, but at the Minuets in the first Suzuki book, I add A Tune a Day Book 1 (for the younger students) and the Tune A Day Scale Book (an excellent book!) for the older ones. I find the Tune A Day, Bks. 1 and 2 helpful for ensemble practice and to review topics in musicianship. For foreign students, it's also helpful to share aspects of American culture, and often--with adults--amusing in this regard. It may be that I teach more music history, music theory and conducting than many teachers do, but I like to train my students to be broadly educated musicians, and this goal seems to serve the needs of homeschool, adult and advanced students, in particular.
I introduce the Wohlfahrt at the beginning of Suzuki Book 4 (Seitz concerti - see Suzuki Repertoire List), and the progression after that is Wohlfahrt-Kayser-Don't Op. 37-Mazas-Kreutzer, followed by Rode, Gavinies and Dont Op. 35. Scale books I use are Hrimaly-Schradieck-Flesch-Galamian (in that order). See Indiana University String Academy Sequence of Études, which includes additional materials to be added in.
Étude List with Composers' Dates
Locatelli (1693-1764) with his set of "L'Arte del Violino" in 1733
Gavinies (1728-1800) with his 24 caprices in 1800(?)
Kreutzer (1766-1831) with his 42 studies in 1800
Rode (1774-1830) with his 24 caprices in 1814-1819
Paganini (1782-1840) with his 24 caprices in 1820
De Beriot (1802-1870) with his L'Ecole transcendentale
Ernst (1814-1865)with his 6 caprices
Dont (1815-1888) with his 24 caprices
Vieuxtemps (1820-1881) with his 6 concert studies
Wieniawski (1835-1880) with his 10 L'Ecole Moderne
Étude List from Leopold Auer
What I Give My Pupils to Play
After mastering the Rode 24 Caprices:
Last group of compositions which represent the maximum of technical difficulty:
FOOTNOTE (Dover ed., p. 97): "With respect to J.S. Bach’s two Concertos for violin, I have never given them to my pupils to study because, from my point of view, only the two slow movements in them are musically valuable and really worthy of their composer; while the first and last movements of each Concerto are not very interesting, either musically or technically. This, of course, is my own humble opinion."
As an intellectual concept, this is a difficult area, particularly if you're primarily right-brained and not given to mathematical and scientific thinking, though this sort of thinking can in some degree be learned, with effort. There is an excellent discussion of these issues in Dr. Michael Kimber's "Scales, Arpeggios, and Double Stops for the Violist." This book, available online on Dr. Kimber's page, has several pages of really interesting text at the beginning, referring to methods of practicing the material and intonation issues in string pedagogy. Extremely valuable resource. See his diagram explaining intonation differences.
As a practical matter, there are a few concepts that teachers use, including the "ringing tones" in Suzuki. These are the fourth finger/lower open string and third finger/upper open string pitches which should match, and also the notion of "frame" formed, initially, by the first and third fingers (with a "high" or a "low" 2), and somewhat later, the frame formed by the octave reach of first and fourth finger (around the 3rd Suzuki book, I suppose, along with the Wohlfahrt studies).
An additional concept may also be introduced, having to do with the roles that pitch steps (of the scale) play within the context of any given key, (tonic, supertonic, mediant, subdominant, dominant, submediant, leading tone). Stringed instruments are not equally tempered the way the piano is, and thus, key context is everything when it comes to intonation on a stringed instrument. The leading tone, for example, is higher, and half-steps can be smaller, within the context of the key (than they are on piano). Playing with piano, one may attempt to adjust to the equally tempered notes, but this is not accurate for the violinist.
Scale Steps and their Corresponding Triads
ii
iii
IV
V
vi
vii°
Tonic
supertonic
mediant
Subdominant
Dominant
submediant or superdominant
leading tone
Regarding naming scale steps in minor, Roland Hutchinson:
"The names of the scale degrees are the same in major and minor, with
one exception: when the seventh degree isn't raised with an accidental to
make a half-step with the tonic, it's better to call it "subtonic" instead
of "leading tone". ("Flat seventh" or "lowered seventh degree" will also
do in a pinch!)."
Other perspectives include:
See also:
This discussion takes an entirely different turn if we were to address baroque performance practice:
Interesting to pair shifting and vibrato, since they really are in so many ways, related concepts. I have some ancient Paul Rolland tapes (I haven't seen the new ones--assuming there are any, which I imagine there are), where *beginning* students are doing tapping and other exercises to develop the flexibility necessary for both of these practices.
By the time the student gets to Suzuki Bk. 4, shifting is necessary for Seitz concerti, and vibrato should be online by then, also. (See: Suzuki Repertoire list). Towards the end of Bk. 3 I introduce the
Wohlfahrt studies and numerous exercises for developing a freer left hand, even in the
Hrimaly. [I don't think it's wise to get into the habit of practicing scales with vibrato, all the time, but according to Dr. Michael Kimber you can practice scales with or without vibrato, but it should be either with or without, but not both, and deliberately, not habitually. If you're not careful, vibrato can be a hindrance to developing pure intonation, "frame," and "ringing tones."]
Depending on the age of the student--with adults there is *much* more verbalization--ideas about both vibrato and shifting are mentioned early on, but not addressed directly until maybe mid- Bk. 3. But indirectly addressed by seeing that the left hand is flexible, free, and able to operate independently of holding the instrument, which should be more a function of the collarbone and shoulder.
You have my sympathies. Losing an audition is tough, and there are not too many musicians who don't go through this at one time or another. Remember the adage that the only person who never fails is the person who never tries anything. And then I can think of some recommendations, in no particular order:
You can feel badly for a whileyou're entitledbut then take it as a challenge, I'd say.
It should probably be added that positions in major orchestras are not only highly competitive, but shrinking in number due to economic conditions. One very successful professional player noted on the newsgroup that repeated failures to win auditions may be simply that the person, however intelligent, may lack critical physical abilities, and that, regardless of how hard the person wishes to win a major job, or how hard they may work, it is cruel, they say, to not try to gently guide them into some other field where they might have greater success--given that doing auditions is an extremely expensive and time consuming activity.
In terms of winning a major orchestra job, the newsgroup violinist is absolutely correct. I think it is accurate to say that the majority of musicians on the planet do not have high paying jobs, and that seeking a position in an orchestra with a smaller budget is often a good compromise, as is freelancing and teaching (only if you enjoy teaching, please--not as a fall-back position!!), and also combining some other field with music. If you lose an audition, you can also ask to be put on the sub list, and then decide where to go next with your playing. [And I would mention to young people that, if you find yourself in an emotionally painful situation, please know that painful feelings go away eventually. These feelings won't last forever.]
There are many fine musicians who are also Phd's in some field, or physicians, or computer professionals, or lawyers, or police officers. Many really fine musicians have second jobs, or are doing music as their second job. There are many more ways to go than just getting a high powered orchestra job, in other words. It also doesn't follow that if you get a graduate degree or degrees in instrumental performance, even from a first rate music school, you will automatically earn a good income. There are a lot of unemployed people with doctorates.
The International Conference of Symphony and Opera Musicians (ICSOM)
Further discussion. . .
I've played the violin for many decades, teaching and performing, and
then started studying viola seriously just last year. I am enamoured
of the sound and what the study of this instrument does for my overall
musicianship.
I'm not an experienced violist in the same way I'm an experienced
violinist. With the violin literature, I know every crook and cranny
of the etude repertoire that students need to master; in the chamber
music literature, I'm familiar with all these beloved works that
anyone who had studied as long as this, would naturally know.
But the question is this: in teaching viola, I'm still in the stage of
relying on my general musicianship and string skills on violin. Should
I be teaching viola? Even beginning viola? (I mean privately, private
studio).
I wonder about the ethics of doing this, particularly if there are
good viola teachers available. Same with cello. In a rural area, with
no other options, perhaps it's excusable. But in a larger city, with
numerous other teachers, I wonder.
Response from Roland Hutchinson:
While many of the standard studies for violin are available for viola (Mazas, Rode, Dont, Kreutzer, etc.), one ought not to neglect the original etudes for viola: Hoffmeister, Campagnoli, Fuchs, and others. Violin etudes of course have to be selected and/or edited judiciously for study on viola: ones that feature useless extreme-high positions (that are VERY stressful on the left hand on viola) and nearly or literally impossible reaches (tenths--ouch!) are not going to do an advancing viola player much good, and indeed can easily lead to counterproductive frustration. Even such a thing as over-use of the fourth-finger extension in first position is going to be an issue for most players on a adult-sized viola.
I think Fuchs has a note in the introduction to one of her collections
mentioning that a lot of violin etudes fairly well neglect the middle range of the instrument -- and she's right. You could play violin etudes all week without learning that the instrument has a third string (slight exaggeration only!), thus without playing much in the register that is the bread-and-butter, most highly characteristic part of the viola's range.
* * *
In general, the responses on the newsgroups support the idea that a teacher in this situation would need to be aware of the needs of advanced students, or students with exceptional potential, whereas teaching beginning students would probably be okay, at least initially or until the student was ready for more advanced studies. Care should be taken, however, that the teacher who is primarily a violinist continues to study the viola and continues to understand the pedagogical aspects of viola playing. These differences include but are not limited to: broader vibrato, differences of tone production with the bow, more use of second position, and different fingerings.
See:
Well, a lot is omitted, and I won't go on, but this is the idea.
This is often, for parents, a very serious and sometimes troubling issue in music study. They should be told that it is normal for students to not want to practice, and home practice should be supervised by the parents until the child is older and has developed more independence. There is an excellent book about this: How to get your child to practice without resorting to violence. In general, the recommendations in the book include:
Also recommended:
More Suzuki materials:
...I'm sure there are other reasons.
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