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Kyle Gass and Jack Black in "Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny." © New Line Cinema More on Tenacious D in The Pick of DestinyMeatloaf on Tenacious D and His New AlbumTenacious D in The Pick of Destiny Photo GalleryTenacious D in The Pick of Destiny Credits, Trailer and Poster Kyle Gass and Jack Black Discuss "Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny"Jack Black and Kyle Gass - AKA Tenacious D - star in the rock musical/comedy, Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny. The film finds the members of "the greatest rock band in the world" hitting the road in search of an unusual guitar pick used by all their rock heroes. However there's one huge catch - the pick is locked up nice and tight at the Rock and Roll History Museum. How hard was it to write this script knowing a lot of people who see the film might not know Tenacious D, as well as writing it for the fans? Kyle Gass: Its definitely a challenge to try to serve both camps. Jack Black: Thats why we did the origin [story]. The movie is like the origin episode of a comic book where you start before there was a Tenacious D. If we would have started in the middle of our existence, then people would have had to do a lot of catching up. Kyle Gass: I think we tilted it more for fans, I think, hoping people got it. How much of this story is true? Jack Black: Glad you asked. Its all true except Kyle Gass: His father is one of the most supportive men. Jack Black: My parents were always very supportive of my rocking. Kyle Gass: He was not a fundamentalist Christian. Jack Black: No, I was actually raised a Jew. I went to Hebrew school and got Bar Mitzvahed, so that was a lie. But the rest...true. How did you meet? Kyle Gass: We met in 89 through a friend. [an argument breaks out over the year Jack Black: I had been a fan since 86 or 87 when I had gone to see him. The first time I saw you perform was Carnage at the Mocha. When was that? Late 80s? Kyle Gass: But Jack got in a production that we were doing in the Actors Gang called The Big Show. I would do all the music usually for the Gang stuff and Jack came in there and started contributing - and threatening my very existence. Jack Black: Thats right. Kyle Gass: But it was a case of if you cant beat em, join em. I couldnt beat him. Was the operatic format there from the beginning? Kyle Gass: Im not commenting on that. Jack Black: I got mad at Kyle in the last interview because he said we should have done the whole thing as an opera without any talking. And I went, What are you taking about? Stop saying bad things about the movie. Were trying to promote the movie. Yes, we blew it. We should have done an opera. Kyle Gass: The opening scene is mind-blowing and I just sometimes get a little sad when it stops. Thats when I come on. Jack Black: That song is not easy to write, to write a full opera youve got to take your hats off to The Who. But on the other hand that movie kind of sucked, and its probably because it was an opera from beginning to end, Kyle. Kyle Gass: Im going to put Evita in that category, too. Jack Black: Youve got to stop and start talking at some point. You have to talk and communicate without singing. Its annoying. Was it hard to get a studio to say yes to the movie? Jack Black: It was easy when we were talking with New Line and we were saying, Lets make a five million dollar movie. Itll be incredible. Itll be funny. Weve got f**kin enough fans already thats its gonna make money. Then it expanded and we said, Wait a second, its actually more like 18 or 19 million or 20. Kyle Gass: Is that okay? Jack Black: And then there was only one studio interested. We went all around the horn and then New Line was the only one that said, Yeah, well put our money on that one. Nobody else was interested. It was too expensive. None of them thought we could do it. Was there a scene that was hard to get through because you were cracking up? Kyle Gass: Were pretty good at not cracking up because you dont want to blow the take. There were a couple of times You take movies apart so much some weird close-up. Jack Black: I was laughing all the time. I havent had this much fun on a movie ever. Kyle Gass: I think the very last scene we had a good time when were smoking out of the Devils bong. We put some real pot in there. Jack Black: Yeah. I got too high and I was paranoid that there were some SAG secret officials there that were gonna bust us for smoking real pot. Its too powerful. Someone put the cronic in there. Two bong hits. Im a lightweight, too, so its like, Aaaaaaaah. Driving home was a real challenge. Jack, since the show and the album youve became a movie star. Has that changed Tenacious D at all? Jack Black: I like to think that we would never have gotten the movie made if I hadnt built some sweet Kyle Gass: There you go. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. As big as Jack was getting, it could only help get a name, I think. Thats all they really think about is bankability. But has it changed you, Jack? Jack Black: Has it changed me? Oh, yeah. Weve gone on tour after School of Rock. Kyle Gass: Weve played shows. Weve had great tours. I think people seem to separate it pretty much. Jack Black: It was a bummer after Shallow Hal when people were carrying around the Shallow Hal billboards at the concerts [he indicates people holding them up over their heads]. Thats not really heavy metal, to look out in the audience when youre tryin to rock and theres a Shallow Hal cardboard cutout. Does your music have to be good before it can be funny? What comes first? Kyle Gass: I think its important for us that its as good as we can do it, just musically-wise. Jack Black: Yeah. Kyle Gass: I think its what makes us a little different from some guitar comics. We love music and just try to make really great songs. Do you start with the tune before the words? Kyle Gass: We usually have an idea. We do a lot of improv and Jack will riff a lot of the lyrics. Jack Black: Kyle is always a bubbling cauldron of tunes. Hes always playing and working on little melodies and riffs. Then I would need to have something that I think is funny, a concept that I want to riff on, or, I need a type of song that I want to make that weve never made before. Then we can just start jammin and always recording. 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