Originally posted by AyushJ:

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/1420463?startidx=200#comment3845632 (bug-292280)

The problem there is that I always have the show email option disabled and it still crashes for me. Perhaps it's different in this build compared to the last. Thanks for the location of how to enable it manually.
Update: If I enable the "Info" button that way (editing toolbar.ini in the profile), whenever I open the panel Opera instantly crashes. So in my case at least, I can't enable "Info" and still be able to use the panel.

Originally posted by rseiler:

The problem there is that I always have the show email option disabled and it still crashes for me

The crash occurs when Show E-mail Client is unchecked. Enable it if you want to use info panel.

- POP3 fetching issues with GMail (empty trash) seem not fixed

? any way to re-enable account progress bar?

Other than the obvious interface problems great job guys. This is the first version of Kestrel I can use day-to-day. I've been having a blast playing with CSS3 selectors

Originally posted by "ahpatel":

every time I close Opera, it pops up a crash dialogue... anyone else seen this?

It's not 'every time' here, but pretty often, yes. The previous build (9603) already did this, too.

in 9.50 releases i cant copy text if it is hyperlink.
(no "copy text" in right-click menu)

I want to know... why www.easyvols.com does not work in Opera (any version, same in 9.5 Beta) ?

Did you try masking as Firefox? But then I use GNU/Linux.

Originally posted by "AyushJ":

Originally posted by rseiler:

The problem there is that I always have the show email option disabled and it still crashes for me

The crash occurs when Show E-mail Client is unchecked. Enable it if you want to use info panel.

AHA!
that explains the crash I have.
thank you.
*checking the show E-mail Client*

Congratulations on this great Beta release. Please keep up the good work and enjoy a well deserved party. Yeah!because now widgets can restart with Opera!

Now, on to a few problems with this still wonderful Beta. Namely, the widgets (Date and Time 3), (ClockBar), and the web page

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=605

do not display the seconds of time correctly. They display the static three characters 0-1 instead of the dynamic two character digits display of 00,01,02,03,...,57,58,59. Maybe the call to getSeconds() is not being handled properly. Alpha-Beta version 9562 displays the seconds correctly. I'm running Win XP Professional. In addition, the desktopteam blog widget will not display the -Go to entry- when that is clicked on to display the web page from the Opera site.

Again, thank you for this Beta release. <<< Mathman

Windows 98SE/FAT32: https protocols and rerouts more than not.
Worpress doesn't crash when login is typed (installed on own site).
Adbrite and Fat Cow Hosting Login crashes no matter what, but the Wand Issue is serious. Figured it would be ironed out before Beta got released, what's next download crashes?
No doubt know the wand isn't being added to this in this OS.

Preference window and delete data isn't opening.

Preference window and delete data isn't opening.

In an attempt to fix a double post, I learned deleting (the first one of the twins) causes a crashing.

@rseiler So Do you use the full Aero Glass (I do)? Also, are you ATI or nVidia? I'm ATI and am using the latest Radeon drivers.

My video is nVidia, I have full Aero Glass enabled.

Let’s hear it for Opera 9.5 Beta 1!!! Once again, the Opera team has an ace up their sleeve. What I expected to be nothing more than background bug fixes but on the contrary the team has actually delivered on two of my biggest Opera requests.

The first is really the talk of the release. I’ve been asking for this since the first public 9.5 alpha. It’s something I’ve wanted ever since I heard word of the coming Firefox “Places” feature (and in that browser I would still be waiting had I not switched). It’s what’s been branded, “Opera Link.” The point is bookmarks are automatically synced up to a server where they can be accessed from any browser via a website.

The second is something that I have yet to see mentioned. Something that may largely go unnoticed. Yet had I noticed this was not in the “Known Issues,” I likely would not have even bothered installing the update. This is Yahoo! Mail compatibility. So far all of the many Y!Mail features are working. This includes chat/IM, which has never before functioned in Opera. Everything is working quickly and properly, despite only a couple minor layout problems and occasional slowups. I’m surprised this isn’t being played up, especially since this is support for the biggest WebMail provider.

The Opera team really caught me off guard, and I’ll be switching back from IE7Pro (that was short lived). Congratulations Opera team!

Cant see picasa web unlisted albums (private). Works fine in 9.24 but not in 9.50 alpha/beta

Why would I give you my bookmarks?!

You'll be able to see on what I'm working, what are my preferred sites, and a lot more of private information besides the fact of creating stats of my sites preferences, how do I organize the virtual hosts on my testing server, and a really big etcetera.

I think privacy matters and that you should open the protocol so I can store my bookmarks on my website instead on just yours.

@juangiordana

The Opera Link option is opt-in, no one's forcing you to use it. Many other websites allow users to entrust their bookmarks to their company, it's not a new concept. I find it quite nice to have it embedded in my browser.

However, the Privacy Policy definetly needs some updatin' to address the new issues raised by this new service. (Gosh! It's still talking about ads in the browser )

Originally posted by rseiler:

That said, I don't see it happening here yet, though this install is only a day old. Does it kick in after X days? Right now, it doesn't even seem to touch the disk, let alone freeze the machine. How large are the files in your VPS directory in your profile? The largest one there for me is 8MB, but I wonder how large they get. Those are index files though (I assume), so I don't understand where the "work" comes in for Opera. Indexed searches should be instant.

I upgraded from an old install, and my VPS folder is nearly 400MB ! How does one go about 'fixing' this?

@Vect

if by fix you mean disable:

opera:config#UserPrefs|MaxVisitedPagesIndexSize

set value=0

then exit and delete folder

@Vect & Chris34: If you think disabling the feature altogether is a little extreme, try reducing your history count (preferences/advanced/history > Addresses). I have mine set to 500 and my vps folder is at about 45MB.

Originally posted by netster007x:

@Vect & Chris34: If you think disabling the feature altogether is a little extreme, try reducing your history count (preferences/advanced/history > Addresses). I have mine set to 500 and my vps folder is at about 45MB.

500? What units is that? It's not MB and it's not KB.
And I'm also confused on what a, say, 50MB index gets you. How many days back does the index go for you? Or, put another way, roughly how many addresses does it comprise? And why in the world would it be set to infinite by default?
Earlier, an Opera rep said that ultimately the "Addresses" setting (in History/Prefs) would be the control for this feature, and that makes sense since a user would be apt to notice it. How that jibes with a relatively hidden infinite indexing of those addresses, I don't quite understand.

It's only me, or HistoryNavigationMode = 3 no longer works?
Default Automatic mode (1) slow down navigation as hell (just check out Digg - try to go to comments and than go back - it can be even unresponsive to back action if page not completly loaded yet, and when it actually goes back it reloads the page and loads new ADs).

Also, can anyone explain what for me as a end user means this change:

Always obey server-set Expiry header

What the differences in Opera behaviour I should expect?

@Fatal: HistoryNavigationMode=3 is working normally* for me in the couple days I've been using the build. Can't speak for what happens in this build when it's set to 1, since this is about the first setting in Opera I change.

*Update: I should add that I've noticed now that the pop-up progress bar does pop up for a microsecond when traversing pages back-and-forth (with it set on 3). That didn't used to happen before. It's not impactful exactly, but is this perhaps what you meant?

Most the banking and secure sites still dont work with this release .This' not good .

My old widgets imported from 9.23 still dont work

Following sites are not working since first build of Kestrel.
I tried masking as firefox/ie/opera, but nothing works.

www.icicibank.com
www.projectw.org

@rseiler: It's not a measure of memory. It's a measure of number of addresses kept in your history. Less addresses means less to cache, which means a smaller vps folder

@netser007x: I wasn't referring to memory but disk space. It makes no sense to me that "500" could equate to 50MB. It should be 50, or if they wanted to do it in KB, 50000 (rounding off).
And I do realize we're talking about addresses, but how did Vect's folder range up to 400MB above? What allowed that to happen, exactly, beyond the fact that the index has no limit by default? Was it the "Addresses" setting in Advanced/History? Did he have that set on something like 10,000? How does that setting correlate to the ultimate size of the index, which seems to grow with no bounds?
This whole subject is filled with questions and few answers.

Originally posted by cranil7:

Following sites are not working since first build of Kestrel.I tried masking as firefox/ie/opera, but nothing works.www.icicibank.comwww.projectw.org

What's wrong with ProjectW? It works perfectly for me. Is there some particular aspect of it that doesn't work? If so, what is it?
I can't test logging in on the banking site, of course. Is that the part of it that doesn't work for you?

Thanks for this great build; however there's a heavy display error in this site:

http://www.dunyagazetesi.com.tr/

Regards

I've played with this build a little longer, and found that it fails on all SharePoint portals. All of them. I accept, that it looks different than IE, but I can't accept that i can't modify any ticket, upload any file or delete any task. All these actions provide me with 'bad request' error.

I'd gladiliy replace Link synchronisation, for some more compatibility. As for now 9.5 is only a minor fraction more compatible with Internet than 9.0 was. And I repeat, I don't care who's fault is it, I expect Opera to handle webpages as good as FF does.

This beta didn't give me hope, that 9.5 will 'just work' with 99% of the sites, once again the bells and whistles were more important.

still slower in linux than xp :-(

@Luchio

The Opera Link option is opt-in, no one's forcing you to use it. Many other websites allow users to entrust their bookmarks to their company, it's not a new concept. I find it quite nice to have it embedded in my browser.

I want to use it, what I don't want is to share it.
I don't care what others are doing, I just give my point of view because I think is valid.
The protocol should be open.

The Opera 9.5 should have been Opera X since it has major improvements.
However, since there's still quite a long way to go, there should be a "gamma" version.

Anyway... Let's PARTY!!!

Could you please fix that one:

- I drag a tab to another position
- If i accidently hover the close-tab-"x" and release the mouse, the dragged tab jumps to the beginning of the tabs.

pretty annoying.

This might've been mentioned before, but one can no longer use an ampersand in the name of a newsfeed to get quick access to them (I've used ampersands in front of certain letters so that I can go Alt+K (the Norwegian shortcut for the feeds menu) and then pressing "D" would open "Opera &Desktop Team blog". This no longer works :-(

If it's not coming back the way it was, could we please have some other way of setting the menu letter? (Improving accessibility and all that...)



Also, does Gmail look..um.. too large now? Seems like each message is taking up too much vertical space..

have problem using 'block content..'

unable to use buttons...

Originally posted by IrONia:

have problem using 'block content..'
unable to use buttons...

see http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/show.dml/1405523?startidx=350#comment3813499

Hi guys ! It's always great to here from you !
I tried it on my Debian/Linux and found one thing that still don't work correct for me !!!
The widgets background is always gray, don't have transparency yet ! But Other things are just great !
congratulations !

Thank you for the new beta!

I've found 2 problems by now:
1. Email conversion fails all the time when it tries to convert my emails in old format to the new one
2. If I have no tabs opened when I click to the "Go to entry" link of the Desktop team widget it goes to the blank page. In the prev. version I used it opened the entry on the desktop team forum.

Hi everyone:

At least in my case, one of my favorite pages ( http://www.as.com/) doesn't work in Opera 9.24 (you could download it , but you can't advance anywhere on the web).
On the other hand, it works flawlessly on Opera 9.5 BETA (even in previous builds)
Problably irrelevant, but interesting nevertheless!

Originally posted by kiwibird:

This might've been mentioned before, but one can no longer use an ampersand in the name of a newsfeed to get quick access to them (I've used ampersands in front of certain letters so that I can go Alt+K (the Norwegian shortcut for the feeds menu) and then pressing "D" would open "Opera &Desktop Team blog". This no longer works :-(

That was a bugfix - there are feeds with ampersands in their names, and we shouldn't remove it (which is what we did in treating it as an access key marker).

Originally posted by opera95beta:

This beta didn't give me hope, that 9.5 will 'just work' with 99% of the sites, once again the bells and whistles were more important.

As long as the websites designers don't test in Opera, and as long as users mostly look at Opera and don't confront those designers, the situation can only improve slowly. There is no magic bullet.

Originally posted by opera95beta:

This beta didn't give me hope, that 9.5 will 'just work' with 99% of the sites, once again the bells and whistles were more important.

As long as the websites designers don't test in Opera, and as long as users mostly look at Opera and don't confront those designers, the situation can only improve slowly. There is no magic bullet.

Originally posted by desmasic:

Oh god the comments on Shacknews are again screwed up. [..] majority of the sites I visit have one problem or another on every Opera build (beta or not).

There are no recent bug reports on shacknews in our bug database. Did you either report a bug to us or report a bug to shacknews?

Originally posted by rseiler:

Originally posted by somairotevoli:Will opera -notrayicon be fixed? I do not want to have the icon shown.They did comment on it up the thread, but only said that you should use Windows' built-in functionality for hiding the icon. I think the inference is no.

That was a comment for Windows users. For linux, the situation isn't as easy, which was why the commandline option was added there in the first place. I assume it will be fixed before final. At least for final, but it is clear that Windows users wouldn't mind if it worked for them as well.

Originally posted by GDragoN:

I have a donwload problem with Opera 9.5. I wanted to download some file, and I clicked on the link, link points to 'download.php' file that starts download of actual file. But instead of file I get to save this download.php file. With previous versions everything is ok.

Without URLs to test this one, there is little people can do to help you with this...

Originally posted by FataL:

There is no need in showing this kind of error, just correct the address and show page to user. Firefox does a good job here.

Correcting input is something we should be very careful with - before you know it, you've opened up a security hole somewhere. BTW, I think using one slash instead of two is a much more likely error than typing four slashes?

Opera is the coolest thing since the automatic bread slicer I neve got me one of those but I sure use Opera...

The alpha version has 64-bit build, but I can only find the i386 build for beta version. Can somebody show me why?