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This BCS scenario proves to be a trick question

Around the office, we’ve dubbed it the Trubow Scenario — a rather unique BCS “what if” scenario that staffer Alan Trubow came up with.

What would the BCS do, Alan asked, if Oklahoma and Texas were the No. 1 and 2 teams in the final BCS standings, yet neither of them was the Big 12 champion?

It’s a question that challenges some of the BCS’s own bylaws, and even the BCS’s top administrator couldn’t immediately answer it.

Before we get to the answer, let’s explain how it could happen. It’s not quite as far-fetched as you might think.

First, assume that Texas and Oklahoma win the rest of their regular-season games. With their strong strength of schedules and some other weirdness that’s sure to happen around the country, Texas and OU enter conference championship weekend as Nos. 1 and 2 in the BCS standings.

Texas would still have to play in the Big 12 title game against a team such as Missouri or Kansas. Now, let’s say that Texas loses that game, making the North representative the Big 12 champion and making it an automatic qualifier for a BCS bowl. (At least, that’s what the BCS rules say.)

But here’s the big twist: When the final BCS standings come out the next day, Texas learns that its loss in the championship game was not enough to knock it out of the top two. It’s looking like a Texas-OU rematch in Miami for the national championship.

Or is it?

Based on the BCS’s bylaws, this scenario would result in three Big 12 teams qualifying for BCS bowls. And yet those BCS rules strictly limit conferences to no more than two BCS teams.

We called BCS administrator Bill Hancock to find out whether the Big 12 could get three BCS teams or whether one team would be left out.

For a man who’s heard all sorts of wild scenarios over the years, Hancock was rather amused with the unique challenge posted by this one. And then he was simply stumped. He asked to call back later, and when he did, he said, “I’m going to borrow a line from Tina Fey: I want a life line.” He said more research was needed, and he’d have to get back to us.

And then he did. The Trubow Scenario, he said, would result in the Big 12 champion not getting a BCS berth. Hancock explained that matching up 1 vs. 2 in the national title game was the BCS’s top priority. And he said that under no circumstance could a conference have teams in three BCS bowls.

So, even though the BCS rules expressly grant an “automatic” bowl berth to six conference champions, that rule has more wiggle room in it than we’d thought.

Anybody care to speculate on what the reaction to all this would be in Missouri, which felt snubbed a year ago by the BCS when Kansas was invited to the Orange Bowl? It wouldn’t be pretty.

Of course, like almost all BCS scenarios, this one probably won’t happen. But what if …

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By Bevo

October 27, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Daniel A Seymour,

Will Muschamp would beg to differ about the sec being the toughest conference in the land

By Daniel A Seymour

October 27, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this

If Texas lost the Big 12 Championship game and still went to the National Championship game I would personally overthrow the BCS. As a life long Georgia fan, we were obviously the best team in the country at the end of last season, but because we play in the toughest conference in the land, we were skipped in the BCS thought process. We could've easily beaten Ohio State or LSU but weren't given the chance. When we win the SEC this year we'll show the Big 12 where real football is played... IN THE SOUTHEAST...

By ftworthhorn

October 24, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this

The only way Texas plays the land thieves in the BCS championship game. Is that we win out (including Big12 CCG)and the dirt burglars also win out and THEY ARE the only 1 loss team left. ESPN = Eastern sports propaganda network would not allow a big 12 match up, only the SEC or big east would deserve such a match up. Then there's USC.....

By Randy

October 24, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

"Hancock explained that matching up 1 vs. 2 in the national title game was the BCS�s top priority. And he said that under no circumstance could a conference have teams in three BCS bowls."

In this scenario, the Big 12 would have three teams in TWO bowls, not THREE... the bowl the conference champion would go to, and the BCS championship game between Texas and ZeroU.

By Guillermo

October 24, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

It took him all those words just to say that #1 vs. #2 takes precedence over a conference champion? Instead of making up BSC scenarios, why not post the player press conference videos or update the blog with something that is ACTUALLY happening!

By Scott

October 24, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Don't kid yourself! If usc is close they will jump the one loss team of the dirt burglars.
Yea, prolly won't be right but the media has a man crush on usc. Plus, if the dirt burglars get screwed it would be so much fun watching stuups whine and cry!!!

HAHAHA! He's such a cry baby when things don't go his way!

By Adam

October 24, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this

It's much more probable that Texas and OU win out, Penn State and Alabama loses, forcing a Texas OU rematach for the National Champtionship. USC strength of schedule would keep them out.

By Sweet Susan

October 24, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

There sure are a bunch of cynics on this thread. What is wrong with you guys? Especially you, Tim. This is supposed to be fun, and I think this is a pretty interesting scenario. And fun to entertain. Although I don't think this Texas team will lose to anybody in the Conference championship if they get their undefeated.

These guys have way too much moxie for that.

Hook 'Em!

By Tim

October 24, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

Instead of all you guys making up stuff and calling other people who are busy. Why don't you update this Longhorn game day page? It's a week behind everything. You've just started talking about missouri!
GEEEZ! If you were Mack you would have already lost a game because of it....bury it and move on and leave everyone else alone.
No wonder this rag is for sale!

By Duane

October 24, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this

WOW!
You guys have way too much time on your hands!

By Scott

October 24, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

Well, technically the 3 teams would still only be in 2 BCS bowl games.

But, if Texas got beat by a Kansas or Misssouri by 1 point it would knock them out of the 1 or 2 spot. No way they can stay 1 or 2.

By dj

October 24, 2008 9:23 AM | Link to this

i don't know why some of you are saying it is "stupid".... OU did it a few years ago after is lost to K-State in the Big XII Championship .... unlikely?..probably... stupid??...no...

By Rick

October 24, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

You're right, that's dumb. I mean how could a team lose the Big XII Championship and only fall from #1 to #2? That's so stupid! What? What's that you say? It happened to OU in 2003? Oh, nevermind....

By GB

October 24, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

unfortunately, I agree with the other posters - I think the pollsters would allow that to happen to OU, but I think they'd punish UT more - it's just the way it goes for Texas. They can win all their games and lose one and the pollsters would take any chance possible to punish them as much as possible for it. It would knock them out of the top 2 in my opinion as well, though, depending on the other factors in the scenario (ie: other teams losing too), I might would think that Texas should keep it's spot in the top 2.

By GB

October 24, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

Alan - even this statement is wrong. "And he said that under no circumstance could a conference have teams in three BCS bowls." It wouldn't be 3 games, it would be 3 teams. So, are they worried about Big 12 teams taking up 3 bowls most, or 3 spots in a bowl? 2 of them would be in one bowl.

By sharsky

October 24, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

There is no way UT would remain #1 or #2 in the BCS if they lose their last game, the Big 12 title game....so the scenario is very far fetched.

By thedude

October 24, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

But here�s the big twist: When the final BCS standings come out the next day, Texas learns that its loss in the championship game was not enough to knock it out of the top two. It�s looking like a Texas-OU rematch in Miami for the national championship.
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stupid

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