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1963 NFL-AFL Commentator Crews
10/11/08 at 10:23:05
 
This thread will attempt to document TV coverage of the 1963 pro football season.
 
*means that the commentator listed is not totally certain. As we move back further in time, the gaps and educated guesses or simple lack of information will become more numerous.
 
Any corrections, revisions and comments are most appreciated.
 
No major changes from 1962 for coverage.
 
 
AFL Week 1:
9/7:
Raiders-Oilers, 10:00, Not televised.
Chiefs-Broncos, 10:00, Not televised.
9/8:
Jets-Patriots, 2:00, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
Bills-Chargers, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
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NFL Week 1:
9/14:
Cardinals-Cowboys, 10:00, KTVI-St Louis. Crew unknown
Lions-Rams, 11:45, Not televised
9/15:
Steelers-Eagles, 1:30, CBS. Joe Tucker, Johnny Sauer
Bears-Packers, 2:00, CBS. Ray Scott, Tony Canadeo
Giants-Colts, 2:00, CBS. Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall
Redskins-Browns, 2:00, CBS. Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher (WSH). Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr (CLE).
Vikings-49ers, 4:30, CBS. Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker (MIN). Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau (SF).
 
Note: CHI-GB a single audio feed for both networks. Apparently CHI pxp man Red Grange suffering from illness.
 
AFL Week 2:
9/14:
Broncos-Oilers, *9:00, Not televised
Patriots-Chargers, 11:00, Not televised
9/15:
Bills-Raiders, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Not playing: Chiefs, Jets
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NFL Week 2:
9/21:
Redskins-Rams, 11:45, Sports Network (Synd.). Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher
9/22:
Cardinals-Eagles, 1:30, CBS. Jack Drees, Bill Fischer
Giants-Steelers, 2:00, CBS. Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall
Lions-Packers (Milwaukee), 2:00, CBS. Van Patrick, Russ Thomas (DET). Ray Scott, Tony Canadeo (GB).
Bears-Vikings, 2:30, CBS. Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker
Browns-Cowboys, 2:30, CBS. Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr (CLE). Frank Glieber, Jim Morse (DAL).
Colts-49ers, 4:30, CBS. Chuck Thompson, Jim Simpson (BAL). Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau (SF).
 
Notes:
WSH-LA was most likely nationally syndicated by SNI.  
CBS using MIN crew for both networks. Red Grange apparently on sick leave.
 
AFL Week 3:
9/22:
Oilers-Jets, 2:00, ABC. Charlie Jones
Chiefs-Bills, 2:00, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
Patriots-Raiders, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Not playing: Broncos, Chargers
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NFL Week 3
9/29:
Bears-Lions, 1:30, CBS. Van Patrick, Russ Thomas
Giants-Eagles, 1:30, CBS. Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall
Colts-Packers, 2:00, CBS. Chuck Thompson, Jim Simpson (BAL). Ray Scott, Tony Canadeo (GB).
Cowboys-Redskins, 2:00, CBS. Frank Glieber, Jim Morse (DAL). Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher (WSH).
Rams-Browns, 2:00, CBS. Bob Kelley, Gil Stratton (LA). Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr (CLE).
Cardinals-Steelers, 2:00, CBS. Jack Drees, Bill Fischer
49ers-Vikings, 2:30, CBS. Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau (SF). Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker (MIN).
 
Note: Single audio with DET crew for both CHI & DET networks. Red Grange apparently continuing to be off sick.
 
AFL Week 4:
9/28:
Oilers-Bills, 8:00, (Lack of) coverage unknown
Raiders-Jets, 8:00, Not televised
9/29:
Patriots-Broncos, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Chiefs-Chargers, 4:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
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NFL Week 4
10/5:
Steelers-Browns, 8:00, Sports Network (Synd.). Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr
10/6:
Cowboys-Eagles, 1:30, CBS. Frank Glieber, Jim Morse  
49ers-Lions, 1:30, CBS. Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau (SF). Van Patrick, Russ Thomas (DET).
Colts-Bears, 2:00, CBS. Chuck Thompson, Jim Simpson
Rams-Packers, 2:00, CBS. Bob Kelley, Gil Stratton (LA). Ray Scott, Tony Canadeo (GB).
Giants-Redskins, 2:00, CBS. Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall (NY). Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher (WSH).
Cardinals-Vikings, 2:30, CBS. Jack Drees, Bill Fischer (STL). Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker (MIN).
 
Notes:
PGH-CLE probably nationally syndicated by SNI.
BAL crew working both CBS BAL and CHI networks as Red Grange apparently remains under the weather.  
 
AFL Week 5:
10/5:
Patriots-Jets, 8:00, Not televised
Raiders-Bills, 8:00, Not televised
10/6:
Oilers-Chiefs, 3:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
Chargers-Broncos, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
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NFL Week 5
10/13:
Browns-Giants, 2:00, CBS. Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr (CLE). Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall (NY).
Eagles-Redskins, 2:00, CBS. Jack Whitaker, Bosh Pritchard (PHI). Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher (WSH).
49ers-Colts, 2:00, CBS. Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau
Lions-Cowboys, 2:30, CBS. Van Patrick, Russ Thomas (DET). Frank Glieber, Jim Morse (DAL).
Packers-Vikings, 2:30, CBS. Ray Scott, Tony Canadeo (GB). Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker (MIN).
Steelers-Cardinals, 2:30, CBS. Joe Tucker, Johnny Sauer (PGH). Jack Drees, Bill Fischer (STL).
Bears-Rams, 4:30, CBS. Red Grange, George Connor (CHI). Bob Kelley, Gil Stratton (LA).
 
Note: The Galloping Ghost and Moose are back in the saddle. All is well.
 
AFL Week 6:
10/11:
Raiders-Patriots, 8:00, Not televised
10/13:
Bills-Chiefs, 3:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Oilers-Broncos, 3:30, ABC. Charlie Jones
Jets-Chargers, 4:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
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NFL Week 6
10/20:
Colts-Lions, 1:30, CBS. Chuck Thompson, Jim Simpson (BAL). Van Patrick, Russ Thomas (DET).
Cowboys-Giants, 2:00, CBS. Frank Glieber, Jim Morse (DAL). Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall (NY).
Eagles-Browns, 2:00, CBS. Jack Whitaker, Bosh Pritchard (PHI). Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr (CLE).
Redskins-Steelers, 2:00, CBS. Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher
Packers-Cardinals, 2:30, CBS. Ray Scott, Tony Canadeo (GB). Jack Drees, Bill Fischer (STL).
Bears-49ers, 4:30, CBS. Red Grange, George Connor (CHI). Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau (SF).
Vikings-Rams, 4:30, CBS. Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker (MIN). Bob Kelley, Gil Stratton (LA).
 
AFL Week 7:
10/18:
Broncos-Patriots, 8:00, Not televised
10/20:
Bills-Oilers, 3:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Chargers-Chiefs, 3:30, ABC. Charlie Jones
Jets-Raiders, 4:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
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NFL Week 7
10/27:
Vikings-Lions, 1:30, CBS. Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker (MIN). Van Patrick, Russ Thomas (DET).  
Cowboys-Steelers, 2:00, CBS. Frank Glieber, Jim Morse  
Packers-Colts, 2:00, CBS. Ray Scott, Tony Canadeo
Giants-Browns, 2:00, CBS. Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall (NY). Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr (CLE).
Eagles-Bears, 2:00, CBS. Jack Whitaker, Bosh Pritchard (PHI). Red Grange, George Connor (CHI).
Cardinals-Redskins, 2:00, CBS. Jack Drees, Bill Fischer (STL). Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher (WSH).
49ers-Rams, 4:30, CBS. Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau (SF). Bob Kelley, Gil Stratton (LA).
 
AFL Week 8:
10/26:
Patriots-Bills, 8:00, Not televised
Broncos-Jets, 8:00, Not televised
10/27:
Chiefs-Oilers, 3:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
Raiders-Chargers, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
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NFL Week 8
11/3:
Browns-Eagles, 1:30, CBS. Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr
Bears-Colts, 2:00, CBS. Red Grange, George Connor
Giants-Cardinals, 2:00, CBS. Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall (NY). Jack Drees, Bill Fischer (STL).
Steelers-Packers (Milwaukee), 2:00, CBS. Joe Tucker, Johnny Sauer (PGH). Ray Scott, Tony Canadeo (GB).
Rams-Vikings, 2:30, CBS. Bob Kelley, Gil Stratton (LA). Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker (MIN).
Redskins-Cowboys, 2:30, CBS. Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher (WSH). Frank Glieber, Jim Morse (DAL).
Lions-49ers, 4:30, CBS. Van Patrick, Russ Thomas (DET). Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau (SF).
 
AFL Week 9:
11/1:
Oilers-Patriots, 8:00, Not televised
11/2:
Chargers-Jets, 8:00, Not televised
11/3:
Bills-Broncos, 3:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
Chiefs-Raiders, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
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NFL Week 9
11/10:
Browns-Steelers, 2:00, CBS. Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr
Lions-Colts, 2:00, CBS. Van Patrick, Russ Thomas
Rams-Bears, 2:00, CBS. Bob Kelley, Gil Stratton (LA). Red Grange, George Connor (CHI).
Vikings-Packers, 2:00, CBS. Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker (MIN). Ray Scott, Tony Canadeo (GB).
Eagles-Giants, 2:00, CBS. Jack Whitaker, Bosh Pritchard (PHI). Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall (NY).
Redskins-Cardinals, 2:00, CBS. Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher (WSH). Jack Drees, Bill Fischer (STL).
Cowboys-49ers, 4:30, CBS. Frank Glieber, Jim Morse (DAL). Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau (SF).
 
AFL Week 10:
11/8:
Raiders-Chiefs, 7:30, Not televised
11/9:
Broncos-Bills, 8:00, Not televised
11/10:
Chargers-Patriots, 2:00, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Jets-Oilers, 3:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
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NFL Week 10
11/17:
Rams-Lions, 1:30, CBS. Bob Kelley, Gil Stratton (LA). Van Patrick, Russ Thomas (DET).
Packers-Bears, 2:00, CBS. Ray Scott, Tony Canadeo (GB). Red Grange, George Connor (CHI).
Steelers-Redskins, 2:00, CBS. Joe Tucker, Johnny Sauer (PGH). Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher (WSH).
Cardinals-Browns, 2:00, CBS. Jack Drees, Bill Fischer (STL). Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr (CLE).
49ers-Giants, 2:00, CBS. Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau (SF). Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall (NY).
Colts-Vikings, 2:30, CBS. Chuck Thompson, Jim Simpson (BAL). Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker (MIN).
Eagles-Cowboys, 2:30, CBS. Jack Whitaker, Bosh Pritchard (PHI). Frank Glieber, Jim Morse (DAL).
 
AFL Week 11:
11/17:
Chiefs-Patriots, 2:00, ABC. Charlie Jones
Chargers-Bills, 2:00, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
Jets-Broncos, 3:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Not playing: Oilers, Raiders
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NFL Week 11
11/24:
Redskins-Eagles, 1:30, Not televised
Bears-Steelers, 2:00, Not televised
Cowboys-Browns, 2:00, Not televised
Cardinals-Giants, 2:00, Not televised
49ers-Packers (Milwaukee), 2:00, Not televised
Lions-Vikings, 2:30, Not televised
Colts-Rams, 4:30, Not televised
 
AFL Week 12:
11/24:
All games postponed
 
Note:
On 11/22, President John Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas. Soon after being sworn in as President, Lyndon Johnson declared a period of national mourning that would conclude after the Kennedy funeral on 11/25. The three TV networks shut down all regularly scheduled programming, including prime time shows, Saturday cartoons, weekend public affairs shows, sports programming, etc. with round the clock news coverage of the unfolding events. The overnight hours  - unless breaking news regarding updating assassination coverage - had somber classical music if stations chose to remain on the air.
 
The AFL called off the three regularly scheduled games for 11/24. The NFL however, opted to continue to play on 11/24 with all seven games as scheduled. CBS Chairman Bill Paley ordered no telecasts of any NFL games played during the period of mourning. As well on 11/24, the accused assassin of the President, Lee Harvey Oswald, was himself murdered.  
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NFL Week 12
11/28:
Packers-Lions, Noon, CBS. Van Patrick (pxp 1st half), Ray Scott (pxp 2nd half), Russ Thomas (color)
12/1:
Colts-Redskins, 2:00, CBS. Chuck Thompson, Jim Simpson (BAL). Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher (WSH).
Browns-Cardinals, 2:00, CBS. Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr (CLE). Jack Drees, Bill Fischer (STL).
Vikings-Bears, 2:00, CBS. Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker (MIN). Red Grange, George Connor (MIN).
Eagles-Steelers, 2:00, CBS. Jack Whitaker, Bosh Pritchard
Giants-Cowboys, 2:30, CBS. Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall (NY). Frank Glieber, Jim Morse (DAL).
Rams-49ers, 4:30, CBS. Bob Kelley, Gil Stratton (LA). Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau (SF).
 
AFL Week 12:
11/28:
Raiders-Broncos, 3:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
12/1:
Bills-Patriots, 2:00, ABC. Charlie Jones
Chiefs-Jets, 2:00, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Oilers-Chargers, 4:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
 
Note: With the postponement of the 11/24 games, the AFL reshuffled the remainder of the 1963 schedule.  
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NFL Week 13
12/7:
Packers-Rams, 4:30, CBS. Bob Kelley (pxp 1st half), Ray Scott (pxp 2nd half), Gil Stratton (color)
12/8:
Browns-Lions, 1:30, CBS. Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr (CLE). Van Patrick, Russ Thomas (DET).
Vikings-Colts, 2:00, CBS. Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker
Eagles-Cardinals, 2:00, CBS. Jack Whitaker, Bosh Pritchard (PHI). Jack Drees, Bill Fischer (STL).
49ers-Bears, 2:00, CBS. Bob Fouts, Gordie Soltau (SF). Red Grange, George Connor (CHI).
Redskins-Giants, 2:00, CBS. Jim Gibbons, Eddie Gallaher (WSH). Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall (NY).
Steelers-Cowboys, 2:30, CBS. Joe Tucker, Johnny Sauer (PGH). Frank Glieber, Jim Morse (DAL).
 
AFL Week 13:
12/8:
Jets-Bills, 2:00, ABC. Crew unknown
Patriots-Oilers, 3:30, ABC. *Jack Buck, *George Ratterman
Broncos-Chiefs, 3:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
Chargers-Raiders, 4:30, ABC. Charlie Jones, Max Boydston
 
Note:
jt has Buck and Ratterman listed for both NY-BUF and BOS-HOU games. The Jets-Bills game was played as originally scheduled. However, the Pats-Oilers game was rescheduled from 12/1 due to the postponement of the 11/24 games. The East Division was a virtual dead heat going into this day's games, with Boston and Houston both a hair above New York and Buffalo in the East standings. Based on that, I will list Buck & Ratterman covering the BOS-HOU game with a *. ABC did cover all four games, so the fourth crew is a definite mystery.
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NFL Week 14
12/14:
Packers-49ers, 4:30, CBS. Ray Scott (pxp 1st half), Bob Fouts (pxp 2nd half), Gordie Soltau (color)
12/15:
Vikings-Eagles, 1:00, CBS. Herb Carneal, Clayton Tonnemaker
Browns-Redskins, 2:00, CBS. Ken Coleman, Warren Lahr
Cowboys-Cardinals, 2:00, CBS. Frank Glieber, Jim Morse
Lions-Bears, 2:00, CBS. Van Patrick, Russ Thomas (DET). Red Grange, George Connor (CHI).
Rams-Colts, 2:00, CBS. Bob Kelley, Gil Stratton
Steelers-Giants, 2:00, CBS. Jack Drees, Jim Gibbons (National). Joe Tucker, Johnny Sauer (PGH). Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall (NY).
 
Notes:
This appears to be an interesting scenario. With the Steelers-Giants game basically a winner-take-all for the Eastern Conference title, CBS appears to have shuffled the deck for three telecasts. Drees was pulled from the DAL-STL game, Gibbons likewise pulled from the CLE-WSH game and both were called to duty to provide a rare somewhat national regular season telecast of PGH-NY. My guess is that CBS may have offered non-primary affiliates the choice of the local team coverage or the PGH-NY game. As for the DAL-STL game, Glieber and Morse called the game for both Dallas and St. Louis network channels taking their feed instead of the Steelers-Giants game, while Coleman and Lahr did the game for both the Cleveland and Washington network affiliates opting for their game instead of Pittsburgh-New York.    
 
AFL Week 14:
12/14:
Patriots-Chiefs, 2:00, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Bills-Jets, 2:00, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
12/15:
Chargers-Oilers, 3:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
Broncos-Raiders, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
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AFL Week 15:
12/22:
Jets-Chiefs, 2:00, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
Broncos-Chargers, 4:30, ABC. Charlie Jones, Max Boydston
Oilers-Raiders, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Not playing: Patriots, Bils
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Post Season:
 
AFL Eastern Division Playoff (Tie-Breaker):
12/28:
Patriots-Bills, 1:00, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
 
NFL Championship:
12/29:
Giants-Bears, 1:00, NBC. Jack Brickhouse (pxp 1st half), Chris Schenkel (pxp 2nd half), George Connor (color)
 
NFL Playoff Bowl in Miami:
1/5:
Browns-Packers, 2:00, CBS. Ray Scott (pxp 1st half), Ken Coleman (pxp 2nd half), Frank Gifford (color)
 
AFL Championship:
1/5:
Patriots-Chargers, 4:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
 
NFL Pro Bowl in Los Angeles:
1/12:
East-West, 4:30, NBC. Chris Schenkel, George Connor
 
AFL All-Star Game in San Diego:
1/19:
East-West, 4:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, George Ratterman
 
 
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Reply #1 - 10/12/08 at 11:51:57
 
Quote from timmy b on 10/11/08 at 10:23:05:

AFL Week 2:
9/14:
Patriots-Chargers, 11:00, Not televised
9/15:
Bills-Raiders, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Not playing: Broncos, Oilers, Chiefs, Jets

The Broncos and Oilers played (in Houston) on 9/14.
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Quote from timmy b on 10/11/08 at 10:23:05:

AFL Week 1:
9/7:
Raiders-Oilers, 10:00, Not televised.
9/8:
Jets-Patriots, 2:00, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
Bills-Chargers, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Not playing: Broncos, Chiefs

The Chiefs and Broncos played (in Denver) on 9/7.
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Reply #3 - 10/12/08 at 16:53:28
 
Jeff79,
 
Fixed. Thanks, Man.
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Timmy,  
 
The St. Louis Cardinals at Dallas game was played on Saturday night (8:05 local).  There were only 5 NFL games on Sunday, Sept. 15th.
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Quote from nyu1990 on 10/12/08 at 17:02:53:
Timmy,

The St. Louis Cardinals at Dallas game was played on Saturday night (8:05 local).  There were only 5 NFL games on Sunday, Sept. 15th.

 
nyu1990,
 
Per your tip, I discovered via the Alton (IL) Evening Telegraph of 9/14/63, KTVI ABC-2 in St. Louis televised the game, with an airtime of 9:00 local (10:00 PM Eastern). No crew listed.
 
Correction made.
 
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Quote from timmy b on 10/11/08 at 10:23:05:

9/22:
Giants-Steelers, 1:30, CBS. Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall

 
 
The Giants at Steelers game (at Pitt Stadium) was a 2:00 kickoff.  (NY Times 9/22/63 TV listings, and the Portsmouth (NH) Herald, 9/21/63).
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Reply #7 - 10/13/08 at 17:06:56
 
Quote from nyu1990 on 10/13/08 at 16:47:48:
Quote from timmy b on 10/11/08 at 10:23:05:

9/22:
Giants-Steelers, 1:30, CBS. Chris Schenkel, Pat Summerall



The Giants at Steelers game (at Pitt Stadium) was a 2:00 kickoff.  (NY Times 9/22/63 TV listings, and the Portsmouth (NH) Herald, 9/21/63).

 
nyu1990,
 
Thanks for that. Actually, I should be good with kickoff times from herein. I discovered in my "archives" Wink a program from the Cardinals-Steelers game from 9/29/63. On the back page is a listing of all teams' schedules WITH kickoff times. So, we should be good from here on!!
 
BTW, since you mention it, the Steelers split home games between Pitt Stadium and Forbes Field from 1959 thru 1963.
 
For 1963, it went like this:
9/22: New York, Pitt Stadium
9/29: St Louis, Forbes Field
10/20: Washington, Pitt Stadium
10/27: Dallas, Forbes Field
11/10: Cleveland, Pitt Stadium
11/24: Chicago, Forbes Field
12/1: Philadelphia, Forbes Field
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AFL Week 4:
9/28:
Raiders-Jets, 8:00, Not televised
9/29:
Patriots-Broncos, 4:30, ABC. Jack Buck, George Ratterman
Chiefs-Chargers, 4:30, ABC. Curt Gowdy, Paul Christman
Not playing: Bills, Oilers
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Timmy,  
 
The Oilers and Bills did play this week on Saturday night, 9/28 at Buffalo.  
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Keith Olbermann just had a feature about the passing this past weekend of Gil Stratton.  Mentioned him as a football announcer for CBS and had a still with him and Jim Brown from what looked to be the Pro Bowl, but no NFL footage.
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Reply #10 - 10/15/08 at 00:00:41
 
Quote from mikeb on 10/13/08 at 21:51:30:
Keith Olbermann just had a feature about the passing this past weekend of Gil Stratton.  Mentioned him as a football announcer for CBS and had a still with him and Jim Brown from what looked to be the Pro Bowl, but no NFL footage.

 
Saw the same feature.  Gil would be known as a renaissance man today (perhaps where the seed got planted in KO's head) Gil, wish I would have gotten to know you.  Keep holding court-I'll look you up
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Reply #11 - 10/17/08 at 11:21:21
 
On the lack of a Bears crew for the first four weeks, a contributor informs me that it is his belief that Red Grange had some health issues and thus the sabbatical. So CBS plugged in the audio of the opponents' crew for those games. This would leave George Connor out in the cold.
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Reply #12 - 10/19/08 at 12:48:59
 
Just a personal note:
 
Looking back, it always blew my mind that for 1962 and 1963 (not counting the occasional non-Sunday local/syndicated telecasts) that CBS televised 95% of all the regular season games and when it was time for the big game, up steps NBC to do it.  
 
Crazy man, crazy... Shocked
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NFL Week 11  
11/24:  
Redskins-Eagles, 1:30, Not televised  
Bears-Steelers, 2:00, Not televised  
Cowboys-Browns, 2:00, Not televised  
Cardinals-Giants, 2:00, Not televised  
49ers-Packers (Milwaukee), 2:00, Not televised  
Lions-Vikings, 2:30, Not televised  
Colts-Rams, 4:30, Not televised  
 
AFL Week 12:  
11/24:  
All games postponed  
 
Note:  
On 11/22, President John Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas. Soon after being sworn in as President, Lyndon Johnson declared a period of national mourning that would conclude after the Kennedy funeral on 11/25. The three TV networks shut down all regularly scheduled programming, including prime time shows, Saturday cartoons, weekend public affairs shows, sports programming, etc. with round the clock news coverage of the unfolding events. The overnight hours  - unless breaking news regarding updating assassination coverage - had somber classical music if stations chose to remain on the air.  
 
The AFL called off the three regularly scheduled games for 11/24. The NFL however, opted to continue to play on 11/24 with all seven games as scheduled. CBS Chairman Bill Paley ordered no telecasts of any NFL games played during the period of mourning. As well on 11/24, the accused assassin of the President, Lee Harvey Oswald, was himself murdered.  
 
tb,
 
Great pickup here-Pete Rozelle often said that allowing games on 11-24 was the worst mistake he made as comissioner.  In his defense, he had been in consultation with Pierre Salinger, JFK's press secretary-and Salinger assured him that JFK-an avid football fan-would have wanted the games to be played.
 
Incidentally, Tom Landry said that the atmosphere at Municipal Stadium that day was the worst he had seen as a coach.  The Cowboys were unmercifully booed at the beginning of the game-but other than that, the game was played in virtual silence
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Reply #14 - 10/19/08 at 13:58:41
 
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NFL Week 11
11/24:
Redskins-Eagles, 1:30, Not televised
Bears-Steelers, 2:00, Not televised
Cowboys-Browns, 2:00, Not televised
Cardinals-Giants, 2:00, Not televised
49ers-Packers (Milwaukee), 2:00, Not televised
Lions-Vikings, 2:30, Not televised
Colts-Rams, 4:30, Not televised

 
Here were the attendance figures:
Redskins-Eagles: 60,671
Bears-Steelers: 36,465
Cowboys-Browns: 55,096
Cardinals-Giants: 62,992
49ers-Packers: 45,905
Lions-Vikings: 28,763
Colts-Rams: 48,555
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Reply #15 - 10/19/08 at 23:41:47
 
Quote from hawkhawg40 on 10/19/08 at 13:26:52:
NFL Week 11
11/24:
Redskins-Eagles, 1:30, Not televised
Bears-Steelers, 2:00, Not televised
Cowboys-Browns, 2:00, Not televised
Cardinals-Giants, 2:00, Not televised
49ers-Packers (Milwaukee), 2:00, Not televised
Lions-Vikings, 2:30, Not televised
Colts-Rams, 4:30, Not televised

AFL Week 12:
11/24:
All games postponed

Note:
On 11/22, President John Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas. Soon after being sworn in as President, Lyndon Johnson declared a period of national mourning that would conclude after the Kennedy funeral on 11/25. The three TV networks shut down all regularly scheduled programming, including prime time shows, Saturday cartoons, weekend public affairs shows, sports programming, etc. with round the clock news coverage of the unfolding events. The overnight hours  - unless breaking news regarding updating assassination coverage - had somber classical music if stations chose to remain on the air.

The AFL called off the three regularly scheduled games for 11/24. The NFL however, opted to continue to play on 11/24 with all seven games as scheduled. CBS Chairman Bill Paley ordered no telecasts of any NFL games played during the period of mourning. As well on 11/24, the accused assassin of the President, Lee Harvey Oswald, was himself murdered.  

tb,

Great pickup here-Pete Rozelle often said that allowing games on 11-24 was the worst mistake he made as comissioner.  In his defense, he had been in consultation with Pierre Salinger, JFK's press secretary-and Salinger assured him that JFK-an avid football fan-would have wanted the games to be played.

Incidentally, Tom Landry said that the atmosphere at Municipal Stadium that day was the worst he had seen as a coach.  The Cowboys were unmercifully booed at the beginning of the game-but other than that, the game was played in virtual silence

 
 
I've also heard that the PA announcer in Cleveland that day only referred to the visitors as "The Cowboys" w/never once mentioning the word Dallas.  
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Reply #16 - 10/20/08 at 10:55:13
 
The note about the Cleveland PA guy referring to them as only "the Cowboys" is true. Also, in one of the retrospectives (1993, I believe) about that weekend, Bob Lilly commented that people in the hotel the Cowboys were staying either gave them dirty looks or made a disparaging comment about Dallas.
 
Some other trivia about that weekend: the Eagles owner at the time (Jerry Wolman) refused to attend the Washington-Philly game in protest of Rozelle's decision, and when Eagles QB King Hill got to his car after the game, his car window had been smashed. The reason? He had Texas license plates.
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Reply #17 - 10/22/08 at 01:28:51
 
On 11-24, most teams didn't even broadcast their games on the RADIO.  One of the few teams that
did go the air was the Packers in their home game against the 49ers.  It was very strange hearing it
on the radio from WTMJ during the horrible weekend of President Kennedy's murder.  My dad listened
for a few minutes to see if he could get the score of the Bear game at Pittsburgh. (That's the one with
the famous highlight of Mike Ditka carrying four Steelers on his back, enabling Chicago to get out of
Forbes Field with a tie.)  
 
Bear fans were upset with the NFL for playing.  First, because it seemed very disrespectful.  And to a lesser extent, it was one of only two road games in the second half of the season.  That meant yet
another Bear game would not be shown in Chicago.
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Reply #18 - 10/22/08 at 12:43:16
 
Timmy:
 
When you list Charlie Jones singularly, does that mean he did not have a color analyst?
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Reply #19 - 10/24/08 at 07:08:46
 
Quote from mikeb on 10/22/08 at 12:43:16:
Timmy:

When you list Charlie Jones singularly, does that mean he did not have a color analyst?

 
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He was listed in Broadcasting magazine's 1963 pro football preview as working solo. jt's lists also confirm as such. So the answer is yes.
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Reply #20 - 11/04/08 at 16:13:24
 
This falls into the category of what would have been, but in the Cleveland regional market for 11/24/63, here was the original schedule (via TV Guide):
 
Because the Browns were playing at home, the Cleveland CBS station had no game scheduled. The Erie, PA market would have the seen the Browns-Cowboys game, while the Toledo market would have gotten the Lions-Vikings. The national AFL game was Oakland @ Denver with Gowdy and Christman at the mike.
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Reply #21 - 11/08/08 at 11:51:07
 
For the record, in 1963 CBS did have a 15 minute pre-game show called "NFL Kickoff". It was hosted by Kyle Rote.
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